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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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They're putting the money in n and extending furlough because there's no way they're going to let people out for Christmas and New year whish would be disastrous |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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well the last lockdown didnt work, why is this one different,apart from finishing off the high street compleatly, this illness actually kills very few people, is it worth ruining an econamy for??
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The furlough has probably been extended till March to allow a breathing space for many companies after Xmas when they will be in serious trouble as its the slowest part of the year for them. Will stave off redundancy or at least stagger it. |
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"well the last lockdown didnt work, why is this one different,apart from finishing off the high street compleatly, this illness actually kills very few people, is it worth ruining an econamy for??
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Of course it worked !!!!!
What planet were you on, what a ridiculous statement !!! |
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It is likely we could have another lockdown in early 2021. For me I see this as covering the business / employees that will still be affected by the tier system when lockdown ends; plus stops all the nonsense negotiating when we go into tiers as furlough already there.
On a plus point it has been backdated to so those that got made redundant as this scheme was ending can reapply |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"well the last lockdown didnt work, why is this one different,apart from finishing off the high street compleatly, this illness actually kills very few people, is it worth ruining an econamy for??
Of course it worked !!!!!
What planet were you on, what a ridiculous statement !!!"
it did while it was in force, then when it ended cases shot up, so do you recomend we stay in lockdown forever?????? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"well the last lockdown didnt work, why is this one different,apart from finishing off the high street compleatly, this illness actually kills very few people, is it worth ruining an econamy for??
Of course it worked !!!!!
What planet were you on, what a ridiculous statement !!!
it did while it was in force, then when it ended cases shot up, so do you recomend we stay in lockdown forever??????"
I’m not convinced that lockdown has the impact that’s claimed however cases did not shoot up when it was lifted. They started to rise when schools and universities went back. |
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"well the last lockdown didnt work, why is this one different,apart from finishing off the high street compleatly, this illness actually kills very few people, is it worth ruining an econamy for??
Of course it worked !!!!!
What planet were you on, what a ridiculous statement !!!
it did while it was in force, then when it ended cases shot up, so do you recomend we stay in lockdown forever??????"
Lockdown came with clear instructions and objectives. You should read them. |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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"well the last lockdown didnt work, why is this one different,apart from finishing off the high street compleatly, this illness actually kills very few people, is it worth ruining an econamy for??
Of course it worked !!!!!
What planet were you on, what a ridiculous statement !!!"
It may have worked but what did it achieve? |
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"They're putting the money in n and extending furlough because there's no way they're going to let people out for Christmas and New year whish would be disastrous"
I fear you are right - can you imagine how many people will be out and about over the festive season. Disaster waiting to happen!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"well the last lockdown didnt work, why is this one different,apart from finishing off the high street compleatly, this illness actually kills very few people, is it worth ruining an econamy for??
Of course it worked !!!!!
What planet were you on, what a ridiculous statement !!!
it did while it was in force, then when it ended cases shot up, so do you recomend we stay in lockdown forever??????
I’m not convinced that lockdown has the impact that’s claimed however cases did not shoot up when it was lifted. They started to rise when schools and universities went back."
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"well the last lockdown didnt work, why is this one different,apart from finishing off the high street compleatly, this illness actually kills very few people, is it worth ruining an econamy for??
Of course it worked !!!!!
What planet were you on, what a ridiculous statement !!!
It may have worked but what did it achieve?" Its objective ... |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"Another 150 billion of funny money is being put into the H economy by Bank of England , U.K. is now one of only 4 countries where total debt is more than one years GDP "
And I think negative interest rates will come in early 2021 |
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"Another 150 billion of funny money is being put into the H economy by Bank of England , U.K. is now one of only 4 countries where total debt is more than one years GDP
And I think negative interest rates will come in early 2021"
Watch out Richy |
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I have a feeling, nothing more, as I have no evidence whatsoever to back up anything I say!!
Will let Christmas shoppers out last few weeks before Christmas, open pubs 2 weeks before Christmas, during Christmas and New Year and a couple of weeks into 2021 for January sales, let a few quid slosh through the tills and then lockdown until end of February, for most businesses February is not generally a busy month. |
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"well the last lockdown didnt work, why is this one different,apart from finishing off the high street compleatly, this illness actually kills very few people, is it worth ruining an econamy for??
Of course it worked !!!!!
What planet were you on, what a ridiculous statement !!!
It may have worked but what did it achieve?"
Prob stopped the NHS being overrun. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Another 150 billion of funny money is being put into the H economy by Bank of England , U.K. is now one of only 4 countries where total debt is more than one years GDP "
With interest rates being at near zero and it costing almost nothing for the government to borrow from investors, it's a good time for them to do so and spend on these schemes. Total debt may exceed GDP but without these government Covid schemes, the market would lose confidence in the UK being able to get back on its feet as quickly, hence less demand for Gilts and higher interest rates offered to attract investors, which then costs more for the government to borrow.
I wouldn't like to be in government now. Labour have it lucky. They can say what they like, like a back seat driver but they don't have to make the hard decisions. |
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Looks that way.
What i dont get about the self employment grants is you apply for it end of November and you get 3 months of payments.
Now lets assume lock down is only for 1 month and it ends in December, then your business operates back to normal(ish) then why do you need the other two months.
Im self employed and will be applying for the grant as my business is affected due to the lockdown but have to take the 3 months money and it was like that on the previous grants. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"March 2021 is too optimistic, I think lockdown will be extended to the end of 2021
We will not be in full lockdown for a year "
Are we in full lockdown though,with schools and universities still open / probably transmitting covid..? |
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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago
Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria |
What about all the people who have already been made redundant because they said the furlough was ending some time ago, now their on job seekers that they can only claim for 6 months then what? They get nothing if they have savings and why should they spend their savings when Furlough is handed out to plenty of people who have savings, all seems a bit out of kilter to me. |
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"What about all the people who have already been made redundant because they said the furlough was ending some time ago, now their on job seekers that they can only claim for 6 months then what? They get nothing if they have savings and why should they spend their savings when Furlough is handed out to plenty of people who have savings, all seems a bit out of kilter to me."
They can apply ....
As part of the revised scheme, anyone made redundant after 23 September can be rehired and put back on furlough |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What about all the people who have already been made redundant because they said the furlough was ending some time ago, now their on job seekers that they can only claim for 6 months then what? They get nothing if they have savings and why should they spend their savings when Furlough is handed out to plenty of people who have savings, all seems a bit out of kilter to me.
They can apply ....
As part of the revised scheme, anyone made redundant after 23 September can be rehired and put back on furlough"
But will companies do that ,with future uncertainty,by now P45's will have been issued ( often done by email now)I don't think it's law the companies have to re- hire,and wouldn't they then have to start paying employers national insurance again..etc..Maybe it is law they have to re- hire ! |
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Lockdown till dec to revise the hospital admissions and capacity available, if the nhs is full with no room to manoeuvre then we carry on, if levels are going the right way then we go back into the revised tier system. I think he will keep hospitality closed/limited regardless of where we are |
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"What about all the people who have already been made redundant because they said the furlough was ending some time ago, now their on job seekers that they can only claim for 6 months then what? They get nothing if they have savings and why should they spend their savings when Furlough is handed out to plenty of people who have savings, all seems a bit out of kilter to me.
They can apply ....
As part of the revised scheme, anyone made redundant after 23 September can be rehired and put back on furlough
But will companies do that ,with future uncertainty,by now P45's will have been issued ( often done by email now)I don't think it's law the companies have to re- hire,and wouldn't they then have to start paying employers national insurance again..etc..Maybe it is law they have to re- hire !"
No idea, it doesn’t affect me as not worked this year, but if I was one of those affected I’d definitely be finding out more about it, talking to my ex employer etc |
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By *woodcplCouple
over a year ago
Borehamwood |
"well the last lockdown didnt work, why is this one different,apart from finishing off the high street compleatly, this illness actually kills very few people, is it worth ruining an econamy for??
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Of course it worked! What nonsense are you talking?! |
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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago
Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria |
"What about all the people who have already been made redundant because they said the furlough was ending some time ago, now their on job seekers that they can only claim for 6 months then what? They get nothing if they have savings and why should they spend their savings when Furlough is handed out to plenty of people who have savings, all seems a bit out of kilter to me.
They can apply ....
As part of the revised scheme, anyone made redundant after 23 September can be rehired and put back on furlough"
What about the thousands before 23rd September they appear to have been forgotten and not likely to find work I would imagine for most of them |
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"What about all the people who have already been made redundant because they said the furlough was ending some time ago, now their on job seekers that they can only claim for 6 months then what? They get nothing if they have savings and why should they spend their savings when Furlough is handed out to plenty of people who have savings, all seems a bit out of kilter to me.
They can apply ....
As part of the revised scheme, anyone made redundant after 23 September can be rehired and put back on furlough
What about the thousands before 23rd September they appear to have been forgotten and not likely to find work I would imagine for most of them "
As I say I don’t know much about the scheme but the basic understanding I have of it, is that it was to stop people being made redundant in the first place |
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March may be more realistic than people are thinking or hoping for The Cheltenham race festival held in March has already said it will be behind closed doors next year and same goes for Badminton horse trials in April |
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I see it not much as the money thing but as a precaution to save one of our greatest assets.....the NHS. If the circuit break will save the NHS, an institution that has been built for decades and one thing the rest of the developed world envy us for, 150 billion is not too much. And for the lives that will be saved too. 1 more life I say, is too much to lose. And for the economy, the 150billion is a fiscal policy that will keep buying and selling going even when earnings are reduced during the lockdown. This measures cumulatively keep the economy afloat. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I have a feeling, nothing more, as I have no evidence whatsoever to back up anything I say!!
Will let Christmas shoppers out last few weeks before Christmas, open pubs 2 weeks before Christmas, during Christmas and New Year and a couple of weeks into 2021 for January sales, let a few quid slosh through the tills and then lockdown until end of February, for most businesses February is not generally a busy month. " yes you could be right |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Another 150 billion of funny money is being put into the H economy by Bank of England , U.K. is now one of only 4 countries where total debt is more than one years GDP
With interest rates being at near zero and it costing almost nothing for the government to borrow from investors, it's a good time for them to do so and spend on these schemes. Total debt may exceed GDP but without these government Covid schemes, the market would lose confidence in the UK being able to get back on its feet as quickly, hence less demand for Gilts and higher interest rates offered to attract investors, which then costs more for the government to borrow.
I wouldn't like to be in government now. Labour have it lucky. They can say what they like, like a back seat driver but they don't have to make the hard decisions."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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£150 billion, the bloody crooks are just printing it and sharing it around their mates in the city, try photo copy a few tenners and spend em and your going to jail, |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Idiots like that is one of the reasons we have a lockdown in the first place"
Have you been out and about today ?
Strange lockdown when there are more cars on the road today then there was yesterday |
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"Looking that way. Furlough is being extended until March which means....."
First furlough scheme was due to end in October but first lockdown ended in July. It is extended further so that business can adjust to quiet reopening and allow trade to come back |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What lockdown? there were more traffic on the roads up here then there was yesterday. "
same today in Lancashire....are folk ignoring this lockdown,traffic not lessened.Last lockdown every day was like an early Sunday morning on the roads( I don't drive btw) |
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