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"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? The masses will be along shortly screaming for sources" And why not I like a good read Oh and source please OP | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? The masses will be along shortly screaming for sources And why not I like a good read Oh and source please OP " I like you, I think I'll kill you last | |||
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"It’s one of those things I read with a pinch of salt and those that I know that read things like this and get freaked by it, to do the same. No one knows how long it is going to take to get back to 2019 life, if we ever do, as this is still oh so new and some factors still unknown. " Imagine in three years going back to 2019.. Knowing what's coming.. Trying to borrow half a million to set up a factory making tin foil hats.. Err PPE.. | |||
"It’s one of those things I read with a pinch of salt and those that I know that read things like this and get freaked by it, to do the same. No one knows how long it is going to take to get back to 2019 life, if we ever do, as this is still oh so new and some factors still unknown. Imagine in three years going back to 2019.. Knowing what's coming.. Trying to borrow half a million to set up a factory making tin foil hats.. Err PPE.. " | |||
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"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? " Maybe it will be 5 years but I don't think it likely there will be an sudden return to 2019 normality. It's going to take time, somethings will happen faster than others and somethings might never be the same again. The Global demand for the vaccine will be well, global. There will be a hierarchy of who get its first and it's going to be limited by how fast it can be safely produced. The high street experience is unlikely to return and WFH may well become the norm. This will have an effect on commercial rents which in turn may affect pensions. Mass gatherings like concerts and sports events may be a bit away yet, and travel may have be reinvented. | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? " 5 years!!! What a crock of shite, well be done and dusted in 1824 days | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? The masses will be along shortly screaming for sources" We don't really need sources to support guesswork. Nobody knows how things will pan out, personally I'll just play it by ear. Cal | |||
"For me I'm waiting for them to tell us the truth.....that will never come..... " I don’t know why but my mind just switched to the x files..... the truth is out there, but so are lies | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? The masses will be along shortly screaming for sources We don't really need sources to support guesswork. Nobody knows how things will pan out, personally I'll just play it by ear. Cal" Ear ear | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? 5 years!!! What a crock of shite, well be done and dusted in 1824 days " Just remembered that bowie song, 5 years | |||
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"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? " If you mean economically as well maybe longer hard to tell but we have to adapt | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? " Did this article factor in (cough) Brexit (cough)? | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?" .... I hear time and time again, certain friends and family saying "How long before things get back to normal?". I don't share their rose-tinted sentiments. Things will never go back to how they were. The past was a different country. We did things differently there. Those days are over. Gone. Finished. What we need to look forward to is the future, and how we reframe our lives within a still emerging and rapidly changing and fluctuating paradigm. Nothing is settled yet. Everything is in a state of flux. Nothing is guaranteed. It will take as long as it takes. And I doubt there will be a sudden "everyone back to normal" bell. It will be gradual return, under different circumstances. For example, let's pre-suppose a viable vaccine is heralded tomorrow. Do all the impositions suddenly disappear ? Of course not. Your vaccine may not be offered to you for another year or more. It's going to be in short supply (manufacture capacity versus availability versus distribution versus cost). These things take time. And even if you did have the vaccine. Where will you go ? Holiday to XYZ ? Sorry, they are locked down still. 3 years away from vaccinating. No one is coming in. Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. We do not know if the same will apply to any of the vaccines for coronavirus. Which could mean the vaccine, whilst hugely important to the recipient, doesn't confer any protection to a non-vaccinated recipient. Thus, places with little to no vaccination amongst their population are not going to want you stepping anywhere near them. So no, not business as usual I'm afraid. Also. That pub you frequented regularly ? Are they still going to be there ? The nightclub you liked go to once a week ? Are they still in business ? That restaurant..you get my drift. But somehow, amazingly, incredibly, and no doubt painfully, we will get through to the other side. Not everyone sadly will make it, but for those that do, the world will have changed. And they will change it further. It's what we as humans do. What we have always done. We are a remarkably resilient and adaptable species. It's why we are still here. We can be bloody-minded, driven, focussed, determined and instinctual and our drive to survive is sharply-honed. With all these incredible survival tools at our disposal, even when we don't always feel we have them, we are well placed for the future. We will rise again, and we will lift everyone up with us. It'll take time, and there will be some "wobbles", but we'll get there. Because we have done this before. Countless times. Grieving the past does no one any favours. Seizing the future and shaping a better one is within your destiny. | |||
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"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? .... I hear time and time again, certain friends and family saying "How long before things get back to normal?". I don't share their rose-tinted sentiments. Things will never go back to how they were. The past was a different country. We did things differently there. Those days are over. Gone. Finished. What we need to look forward to is the future, and how we reframe our lives within a still emerging and rapidly changing and fluctuating paradigm. Nothing is settled yet. Everything is in a state of flux. Nothing is guaranteed. It will take as long as it takes. And I doubt there will be a sudden "everyone back to normal" bell. It will be gradual return, under different circumstances. For example, let's pre-suppose a viable vaccine is heralded tomorrow. Do all the impositions suddenly disappear ? Of course not. Your vaccine may not be offered to you for another year or more. It's going to be in short supply (manufacture capacity versus availability versus distribution versus cost). These things take time. And even if you did have the vaccine. Where will you go ? Holiday to XYZ ? Sorry, they are locked down still. 3 years away from vaccinating. No one is coming in. Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. We do not know if the same will apply to any of the vaccines for coronavirus. Which could mean the vaccine, whilst hugely important to the recipient, doesn't confer any protection to a non-vaccinated recipient. Thus, places with little to no vaccination amongst their population are not going to want you stepping anywhere near them. So no, not business as usual I'm afraid. Also. That pub you frequented regularly ? Are they still going to be there ? The nightclub you liked go to once a week ? Are they still in business ? That restaurant..you get my drift. But somehow, amazingly, incredibly, and no doubt painfully, we will get through to the other side. Not everyone sadly will make it, but for those that do, the world will have changed. And they will change it further. It's what we as humans do. What we have always done. We are a remarkably resilient and adaptable species. It's why we are still here. We can be bloody-minded, driven, focussed, determined and instinctual and our drive to survive is sharply-honed. With all these incredible survival tools at our disposal, even when we don't always feel we have them, we are well placed for the future. We will rise again, and we will lift everyone up with us. It'll take time, and there will be some "wobbles", but we'll get there. Because we have done this before. Countless times. Grieving the past does no one any favours. Seizing the future and shaping a better one is within your destiny." Brilliant so very true and correct I feel | |||
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"For me I'm waiting for them to tell us the truth.....that will never come..... " What truth the truth about the unknown is there a god is there life after death etc? | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? " Five years to get back to normal? Utter bollocks. Ten. E | |||
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"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? .... I hear time and time again, certain friends and family saying "How long before things get back to normal?". I don't share their rose-tinted sentiments. Things will never go back to how they were. The past was a different country. We did things differently there. Those days are over. Gone. Finished. What we need to look forward to is the future, and how we reframe our lives within a still emerging and rapidly changing and fluctuating paradigm. Nothing is settled yet. Everything is in a state of flux. Nothing is guaranteed. It will take as long as it takes. And I doubt there will be a sudden "everyone back to normal" bell. It will be gradual return, under different circumstances. For example, let's pre-suppose a viable vaccine is heralded tomorrow. Do all the impositions suddenly disappear ? Of course not. Your vaccine may not be offered to you for another year or more. It's going to be in short supply (manufacture capacity versus availability versus distribution versus cost). These things take time. And even if you did have the vaccine. Where will you go ? Holiday to XYZ ? Sorry, they are locked down still. 3 years away from vaccinating. No one is coming in. Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. We do not know if the same will apply to any of the vaccines for coronavirus. Which could mean the vaccine, whilst hugely important to the recipient, doesn't confer any protection to a non-vaccinated recipient. Thus, places with little to no vaccination amongst their population are not going to want you stepping anywhere near them. So no, not business as usual I'm afraid. Also. That pub you frequented regularly ? Are they still going to be there ? The nightclub you liked go to once a week ? Are they still in business ? That restaurant..you get my drift. But somehow, amazingly, incredibly, and no doubt painfully, we will get through to the other side. Not everyone sadly will make it, but for those that do, the world will have changed. And they will change it further. It's what we as humans do. What we have always done. We are a remarkably resilient and adaptable species. It's why we are still here. We can be bloody-minded, driven, focussed, determined and instinctual and our drive to survive is sharply-honed. With all these incredible survival tools at our disposal, even when we don't always feel we have them, we are well placed for the future. We will rise again, and we will lift everyone up with us. It'll take time, and there will be some "wobbles", but we'll get there. Because we have done this before. Countless times. Grieving the past does no one any favours. Seizing the future and shaping a better one is within your destiny." Couldn’t have said it better myself actually! You win the internet for me today | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? .... I hear time and time again, certain friends and family saying "How long before things get back to normal?". I don't share their rose-tinted sentiments. Things will never go back to how they were. The past was a different country. We did things differently there. Those days are over. Gone. Finished. What we need to look forward to is the future, and how we reframe our lives within a still emerging and rapidly changing and fluctuating paradigm. Nothing is settled yet. Everything is in a state of flux. Nothing is guaranteed. It will take as long as it takes. And I doubt there will be a sudden "everyone back to normal" bell. It will be gradual return, under different circumstances. For example, let's pre-suppose a viable vaccine is heralded tomorrow. Do all the impositions suddenly disappear ? Of course not. Your vaccine may not be offered to you for another year or more. It's going to be in short supply (manufacture capacity versus availability versus distribution versus cost). These things take time. And even if you did have the vaccine. Where will you go ? Holiday to XYZ ? Sorry, they are locked down still. 3 years away from vaccinating. No one is coming in. Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. We do not know if the same will apply to any of the vaccines for coronavirus. Which could mean the vaccine, whilst hugely important to the recipient, doesn't confer any protection to a non-vaccinated recipient. Thus, places with little to no vaccination amongst their population are not going to want you stepping anywhere near them. So no, not business as usual I'm afraid. Also. That pub you frequented regularly ? Are they still going to be there ? The nightclub you liked go to once a week ? Are they still in business ? That restaurant..you get my drift. But somehow, amazingly, incredibly, and no doubt painfully, we will get through to the other side. Not everyone sadly will make it, but for those that do, the world will have changed. And they will change it further. It's what we as humans do. What we have always done. We are a remarkably resilient and adaptable species. It's why we are still here. We can be bloody-minded, driven, focussed, determined and instinctual and our drive to survive is sharply-honed. With all these incredible survival tools at our disposal, even when we don't always feel we have them, we are well placed for the future. We will rise again, and we will lift everyone up with us. It'll take time, and there will be some "wobbles", but we'll get there. Because we have done this before. Countless times. Grieving the past does no one any favours. Seizing the future and shaping a better one is within your destiny. Couldn’t have said it better myself actually! You win the internet for me today " You do know that is a speech from George or Wells 1984 don't you | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? " Why do we want to go backwards anyway? | |||
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"For me I'm waiting for them to tell us the truth.....that will never come..... " I don't think they want us to know that "the walking dead" series 12 on fox tv will be a documentary in the future | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? " I tend to feel it doesn’t matter in the slightest, the world will be what it will be, inevitably all of our lives will be difficult, have challenges etc but this is actually also a time we can find positives within our individual existences. So far during this pandemic I’ve effectively lost a job, found a new vocation which I truly love, I’ve discovered depths to friendships which make me appreciate the people around me even more. I’ve also save a huge amount on jäger bombs. | |||
"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? I tend to feel it doesn’t matter in the slightest, the world will be what it will be, inevitably all of our lives will be difficult, have challenges etc but this is actually also a time we can find positives within our individual existences. So far during this pandemic I’ve effectively lost a job, found a new vocation which I truly love, I’ve discovered depths to friendships which make me appreciate the people around me even more. I’ve also save a huge amount on jäger bombs." Win win. E | |||
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"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019. That’s bloody depressing to say the least! Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? " its never going back to normal ever get used to it this is the great reset and 4 industrial revolution | |||