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By *areass2017 OP   Man  over a year ago

east coast

So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? "

The masses will be along shortly screaming for sources

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By *riar BelisseWoman  over a year ago

Delightful Bliss


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?

The masses will be along shortly screaming for sources"

And why not I like a good read

Oh and source please OP

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?

The masses will be along shortly screaming for sources

And why not I like a good read

Oh and source please OP "

I like you, I think I'll kill you last

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman  over a year ago

On a mooch

It’s one of those things I read with a pinch of salt and those that I know that read things like this and get freaked by it, to do the same. No one knows how long it is going to take to get back to 2019 life, if we ever do, as this is still oh so new and some factors still unknown.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"It’s one of those things I read with a pinch of salt and those that I know that read things like this and get freaked by it, to do the same. No one knows how long it is going to take to get back to 2019 life, if we ever do, as this is still oh so new and some factors still unknown.

"

Imagine in three years going back to 2019..

Knowing what's coming..

Trying to borrow half a million to set up a factory making tin foil hats..

Err PPE..

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman  over a year ago

On a mooch


"It’s one of those things I read with a pinch of salt and those that I know that read things like this and get freaked by it, to do the same. No one knows how long it is going to take to get back to 2019 life, if we ever do, as this is still oh so new and some factors still unknown.

Imagine in three years going back to 2019..

Knowing what's coming..

Trying to borrow half a million to set up a factory making tin foil hats..

Err PPE.. "

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By *ettyboop61Woman  over a year ago

St Neots

For me I'm waiting for them to tell us the truth.....that will never come.....

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By *oggoneMan  over a year ago

Derry


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? "

Maybe it will be 5 years but I don't think it likely there will be an sudden return to 2019 normality. It's going to take time, somethings will happen faster than others and somethings might never be the same again.

The Global demand for the vaccine will be well, global. There will be a hierarchy of who get its first and it's going to be limited by how fast it can be safely produced.

The high street experience is unlikely to return and WFH may well become the norm. This will have an effect on commercial rents which in turn may affect pensions. Mass gatherings like concerts and sports events may be a bit away yet, and travel may have be reinvented.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? "

5 years!!! What a crock of shite, well be done and dusted in 1824 days

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?

The masses will be along shortly screaming for sources"

We don't really need sources to support guesswork. Nobody knows how things will pan out, personally I'll just play it by ear.

Cal

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman  over a year ago

On a mooch


"For me I'm waiting for them to tell us the truth.....that will never come..... "

I don’t know why but my mind just switched to the x files..... the truth is out there, but so are lies

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?

The masses will be along shortly screaming for sources

We don't really need sources to support guesswork. Nobody knows how things will pan out, personally I'll just play it by ear.

Cal"

Ear ear

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?

5 years!!! What a crock of shite, well be done and dusted in 1824 days "

Just remembered that bowie song, 5 years

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By *uietlyKinkyUsCouple  over a year ago

midlands

My normal doesn't seem to align to public perception normal

I think if In 5 years covid begins to fade into memories then we can probably consider ourselves lucky

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? "

If you mean economically as well maybe longer hard to tell but we have to adapt

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By *oggoneMan  over a year ago

Derry


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? "

Did this article factor in (cough) Brexit (cough)?

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By *oubleswing2019Man  over a year ago

Colchester


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?"

....

I hear time and time again, certain friends and family saying "How long before things get back to normal?".

I don't share their rose-tinted sentiments.

Things will never go back to how they were. The past was a different country. We did things differently there. Those days are over. Gone. Finished.

What we need to look forward to is the future, and how we reframe our lives within a still emerging and rapidly changing and fluctuating paradigm. Nothing is settled yet. Everything is in a state of flux. Nothing is guaranteed.

It will take as long as it takes. And I doubt there will be a sudden "everyone back to normal" bell. It will be gradual return, under different circumstances.

For example, let's pre-suppose a viable vaccine is heralded tomorrow. Do all the impositions suddenly disappear ? Of course not. Your vaccine may not be offered to you for another year or more. It's going to be in short supply (manufacture capacity versus availability versus distribution versus cost). These things take time.

And even if you did have the vaccine. Where will you go ? Holiday to XYZ ? Sorry, they are locked down still. 3 years away from vaccinating. No one is coming in.

Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike.

We do not know if the same will apply to any of the vaccines for coronavirus.

Which could mean the vaccine, whilst hugely important to the recipient, doesn't confer any protection to a non-vaccinated recipient.

Thus, places with little to no vaccination amongst their population are not going to want you stepping anywhere near them. So no, not business as usual I'm afraid.

Also. That pub you frequented regularly ? Are they still going to be there ? The nightclub you liked go to once a week ? Are they still in business ? That restaurant..you get my drift.

But somehow, amazingly, incredibly, and no doubt painfully, we will get through to the other side. Not everyone sadly will make it, but for those that do, the world will have changed. And they will change it further. It's what we as humans do. What we have always done. We are a remarkably resilient and adaptable species. It's why we are still here.

We can be bloody-minded, driven, focussed, determined and instinctual and our drive to survive is sharply-honed.

With all these incredible survival tools at our disposal, even when we don't always feel we have them, we are well placed for the future.

We will rise again, and we will lift everyone up with us. It'll take time, and there will be some "wobbles", but we'll get there. Because we have done this before. Countless times.

Grieving the past does no one any favours. Seizing the future and shaping a better one is within your destiny.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan  over a year ago

nearby

5 years

More like 50 years of higher taxes and more austerity to repay these eye watering sums of furlough and self employed/ business schemes

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?

....

I hear time and time again, certain friends and family saying "How long before things get back to normal?".

I don't share their rose-tinted sentiments.

Things will never go back to how they were. The past was a different country. We did things differently there. Those days are over. Gone. Finished.

What we need to look forward to is the future, and how we reframe our lives within a still emerging and rapidly changing and fluctuating paradigm. Nothing is settled yet. Everything is in a state of flux. Nothing is guaranteed.

It will take as long as it takes. And I doubt there will be a sudden "everyone back to normal" bell. It will be gradual return, under different circumstances.

For example, let's pre-suppose a viable vaccine is heralded tomorrow. Do all the impositions suddenly disappear ? Of course not. Your vaccine may not be offered to you for another year or more. It's going to be in short supply (manufacture capacity versus availability versus distribution versus cost). These things take time.

And even if you did have the vaccine. Where will you go ? Holiday to XYZ ? Sorry, they are locked down still. 3 years away from vaccinating. No one is coming in.

Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike.

We do not know if the same will apply to any of the vaccines for coronavirus.

Which could mean the vaccine, whilst hugely important to the recipient, doesn't confer any protection to a non-vaccinated recipient.

Thus, places with little to no vaccination amongst their population are not going to want you stepping anywhere near them. So no, not business as usual I'm afraid.

Also. That pub you frequented regularly ? Are they still going to be there ? The nightclub you liked go to once a week ? Are they still in business ? That restaurant..you get my drift.

But somehow, amazingly, incredibly, and no doubt painfully, we will get through to the other side. Not everyone sadly will make it, but for those that do, the world will have changed. And they will change it further. It's what we as humans do. What we have always done. We are a remarkably resilient and adaptable species. It's why we are still here.

We can be bloody-minded, driven, focussed, determined and instinctual and our drive to survive is sharply-honed.

With all these incredible survival tools at our disposal, even when we don't always feel we have them, we are well placed for the future.

We will rise again, and we will lift everyone up with us. It'll take time, and there will be some "wobbles", but we'll get there. Because we have done this before. Countless times.

Grieving the past does no one any favours. Seizing the future and shaping a better one is within your destiny."

Brilliant so very true and correct I feel

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By *arnsley guy100Man  over a year ago

Sheffield

I don't think it will ever come back.. Ever

Too much S##t will have happened by then.

Same in any situation.

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"For me I'm waiting for them to tell us the truth.....that will never come..... "
What truth the truth about the unknown is there a god is there life after death etc?

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By * Plus ECouple  over a year ago

The South


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? "

Five years to get back to normal?

Utter bollocks.

Ten.

E

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

I've not read the research.

I don't have a life that's the same as the majority, so I'm just going to take life as it comes each day. There will be worse and better days but I'll have options for how I live. As ee individually have a lot of influence over our odds of getting infected, that's a big plus.

The vaccines in late stages of trials will likely have some effects on how much life is restricted after another good few months from now. I'm hoping.

If you are happy with a fairly simple life, it can remain possible to continue with a simple, though perhaps a little different, life. Expecting a lot may be the weakness.

What we definitely have full control over are our expectations. We may get disappointments but if our expectations are well managed, we can keep ourselves as buoyanct as possible

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By *hatawasteMan  over a year ago

stafford

Unfortunately, my glass is very much half empty, I don't have much optimism for the future at all. Boris messed it up in the spring and that's an undeniable fact .So we are now in big trouble .. it doesn't help that people refuse to listen anymore to common sense either.

Five years might just be okay ..but that will only be if people, that is IF start behaving properly. Which of course they won't unfortunately :/

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?

....

I hear time and time again, certain friends and family saying "How long before things get back to normal?".

I don't share their rose-tinted sentiments.

Things will never go back to how they were. The past was a different country. We did things differently there. Those days are over. Gone. Finished.

What we need to look forward to is the future, and how we reframe our lives within a still emerging and rapidly changing and fluctuating paradigm. Nothing is settled yet. Everything is in a state of flux. Nothing is guaranteed.

It will take as long as it takes. And I doubt there will be a sudden "everyone back to normal" bell. It will be gradual return, under different circumstances.

For example, let's pre-suppose a viable vaccine is heralded tomorrow. Do all the impositions suddenly disappear ? Of course not. Your vaccine may not be offered to you for another year or more. It's going to be in short supply (manufacture capacity versus availability versus distribution versus cost). These things take time.

And even if you did have the vaccine. Where will you go ? Holiday to XYZ ? Sorry, they are locked down still. 3 years away from vaccinating. No one is coming in.

Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike.

We do not know if the same will apply to any of the vaccines for coronavirus.

Which could mean the vaccine, whilst hugely important to the recipient, doesn't confer any protection to a non-vaccinated recipient.

Thus, places with little to no vaccination amongst their population are not going to want you stepping anywhere near them. So no, not business as usual I'm afraid.

Also. That pub you frequented regularly ? Are they still going to be there ? The nightclub you liked go to once a week ? Are they still in business ? That restaurant..you get my drift.

But somehow, amazingly, incredibly, and no doubt painfully, we will get through to the other side. Not everyone sadly will make it, but for those that do, the world will have changed. And they will change it further. It's what we as humans do. What we have always done. We are a remarkably resilient and adaptable species. It's why we are still here.

We can be bloody-minded, driven, focussed, determined and instinctual and our drive to survive is sharply-honed.

With all these incredible survival tools at our disposal, even when we don't always feel we have them, we are well placed for the future.

We will rise again, and we will lift everyone up with us. It'll take time, and there will be some "wobbles", but we'll get there. Because we have done this before. Countless times.

Grieving the past does no one any favours. Seizing the future and shaping a better one is within your destiny."

Couldn’t have said it better myself actually!

You win the internet for me today

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?

....

I hear time and time again, certain friends and family saying "How long before things get back to normal?".

I don't share their rose-tinted sentiments.

Things will never go back to how they were. The past was a different country. We did things differently there. Those days are over. Gone. Finished.

What we need to look forward to is the future, and how we reframe our lives within a still emerging and rapidly changing and fluctuating paradigm. Nothing is settled yet. Everything is in a state of flux. Nothing is guaranteed.

It will take as long as it takes. And I doubt there will be a sudden "everyone back to normal" bell. It will be gradual return, under different circumstances.

For example, let's pre-suppose a viable vaccine is heralded tomorrow. Do all the impositions suddenly disappear ? Of course not. Your vaccine may not be offered to you for another year or more. It's going to be in short supply (manufacture capacity versus availability versus distribution versus cost). These things take time.

And even if you did have the vaccine. Where will you go ? Holiday to XYZ ? Sorry, they are locked down still. 3 years away from vaccinating. No one is coming in.

Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike.

We do not know if the same will apply to any of the vaccines for coronavirus.

Which could mean the vaccine, whilst hugely important to the recipient, doesn't confer any protection to a non-vaccinated recipient.

Thus, places with little to no vaccination amongst their population are not going to want you stepping anywhere near them. So no, not business as usual I'm afraid.

Also. That pub you frequented regularly ? Are they still going to be there ? The nightclub you liked go to once a week ? Are they still in business ? That restaurant..you get my drift.

But somehow, amazingly, incredibly, and no doubt painfully, we will get through to the other side. Not everyone sadly will make it, but for those that do, the world will have changed. And they will change it further. It's what we as humans do. What we have always done. We are a remarkably resilient and adaptable species. It's why we are still here.

We can be bloody-minded, driven, focussed, determined and instinctual and our drive to survive is sharply-honed.

With all these incredible survival tools at our disposal, even when we don't always feel we have them, we are well placed for the future.

We will rise again, and we will lift everyone up with us. It'll take time, and there will be some "wobbles", but we'll get there. Because we have done this before. Countless times.

Grieving the past does no one any favours. Seizing the future and shaping a better one is within your destiny.

Couldn’t have said it better myself actually!

You win the internet for me today "

You do know that is a speech from George or Wells 1984 don't you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? "

Why do we want to go backwards anyway?

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By *ugget O CassMan  over a year ago

Salt lake

I doubt it will ever get back to what it was.

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By *areass2017 OP   Man  over a year ago

east coast

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-54661843

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By *layfullsamMan  over a year ago

Solihull


"For me I'm waiting for them to tell us the truth.....that will never come..... "

I don't think they want us to know that "the walking dead" series 12 on fox tv will be a documentary in the future

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? "

I tend to feel it doesn’t matter in the slightest, the world will be what it will be, inevitably all of our lives will be difficult, have challenges etc but this is actually also a time we can find positives within our individual existences.

So far during this pandemic I’ve effectively lost a job, found a new vocation which I truly love, I’ve discovered depths to friendships which make me appreciate the people around me even more. I’ve also save a huge amount on jäger bombs.

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By * Plus ECouple  over a year ago

The South


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion?

I tend to feel it doesn’t matter in the slightest, the world will be what it will be, inevitably all of our lives will be difficult, have challenges etc but this is actually also a time we can find positives within our individual existences.

So far during this pandemic I’ve effectively lost a job, found a new vocation which I truly love, I’ve discovered depths to friendships which make me appreciate the people around me even more. I’ve also save a huge amount on jäger bombs."

Win win.

E

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan  over a year ago

Hastings

4 years 363 days this post started 2 days ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So I have read tonight that we could be looking at 5 years until we are back to the kind of life that we were all living in 2019.

That’s bloody depressing to say the least!

Hopefully some of you will have more optimism and can pour scorn of this article / opinion? "

its never going back to normal ever get used to it this is the great reset and 4 industrial revolution

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