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With Covid vaccines getting closer by the day and the anti vaxers getting twitchy I thought I'd do some open minded research but nothing except the ravings of some lunatics mostly in the USA and some extremely isolated incidents.
So of any developed in the last 25 years, which vaccines, what side effects and where's the study to prove it ? |
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"With Covid vaccines getting closer by the day and the anti vaxers getting twitchy I thought I'd do some open minded research but nothing except the ravings of some lunatics mostly in the USA and some extremely isolated incidents.
So of any developed in the last 25 years, which vaccines, what side effects and where's the study to prove it ?"
There is always the possibility of adverse reactions to any medication, but there isn't a single vaccine in common use which has serious side effects in any significant quantity.
Vaccines are probably the greatest invention of medical science and undoubtedly save millions of lives every year.
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"With Covid vaccines getting closer by the day and the anti vaxers getting twitchy I thought I'd do some open minded research but nothing except the ravings of some lunatics mostly in the USA and some extremely isolated incidents.
So of any developed in the last 25 years, which vaccines, what side effects and where's the study to prove it ?
There is always the possibility of adverse reactions to any medication, but there isn't a single vaccine in common use which has serious side effects in any significant quantity.
Vaccines are probably the greatest invention of medical science and undoubtedly save millions of lives every year.
Cal"
That was my conclusion but I thought I'd keep an open mind given the expert opinions here I thought I would find at least a shred of evidence. |
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Yes you hardly ever hear of Edward Jenner when somebody wants to deride the UKs past history.
Vaccina ation 'become cattle'
Using cow pox to cure small pox. |
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"Yes you hardly ever hear of Edward Jenner when somebody wants to deride the UKs past history.
Vaccina ation 'become cattle'
Using cow pox to cure small pox.
Translation please ?"
Sorry I presumed you'd started at Jenner in your open minded research
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All vaccines carry life threatening side effects. All of them. But at numbers way, way lower than the disease. But the safety requirements for vaccines are much higher than for many other medical interventions. |
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"Yes you hardly ever hear of Edward Jenner when somebody wants to deride the UKs past history.
Vaccina ation 'become cattle'
Using cow pox to cure small pox.
Translation please ?
Sorry I presumed you'd started at Jenner in your open minded research
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The initial post stated
"So of any developed in the last 25 years, which vaccines, what side effects and where's the study to prove it ?"
Since Edward Jenber died in 1823 his vaccinations were an awful lot longer ago than 25 years. I suspect this was the reason for the confusion. |
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"Yes you hardly ever hear of Edward Jenner when somebody wants to deride the UKs past history.
Vaccina ation 'become cattle'
Using cow pox to cure small pox.
Translation please ?
Sorry I presumed you'd started at Jenner in your open minded research
The initial post stated
"So of any developed in the last 25 years, which vaccines, what side effects and where's the study to prove it ?"
Since Edward Jenber died in 1823 his vaccinations were an awful lot longer ago than 25 years. I suspect this was the reason for the confusion. "
Smallpox was eradicated more than 25 years ago  |
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"Yes you hardly ever hear of Edward Jenner when somebody wants to deride the UKs past history.
Vaccina ation 'become cattle'
Using cow pox to cure small pox.
Translation please ?
Sorry I presumed you'd started at Jenner in your open minded research
The initial post stated
"So of any developed in the last 25 years, which vaccines, what side effects and where's the study to prove it ?"
Since Edward Jenber died in 1823 his vaccinations were an awful lot longer ago than 25 years. I suspect this was the reason for the confusion. "
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"Yes you hardly ever hear of Edward Jenner when somebody wants to deride the UKs past history.
Vaccina ation 'become cattle'
Using cow pox to cure small pox.
Translation please ?
Sorry I presumed you'd started at Jenner in your open minded research
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I'm really looking for modern medicine such as might be a basis for concern over Covid vaccine not really interested in ancient history but thanks for that  |
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"Yes you hardly ever hear of Edward Jenner when somebody wants to deride the UKs past history.
Vaccina ation 'become cattle'
Using cow pox to cure small pox.
Translation please ?
Sorry I presumed you'd started at Jenner in your open minded research
The initial post stated
"So of any developed in the last 25 years, which vaccines, what side effects and where's the study to prove it ?"
Since Edward Jenber died in 1823 his vaccinations were an awful lot longer ago than 25 years. I suspect this was the reason for the confusion.
Smallpox was eradicated more than 25 years ago "
In fact 2020 is the 30th anniversary of it being officially eradicated worldwide.
Vaccinations are one of the greatest of mans creations, so many lives saved. |
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"Yes you hardly ever hear of Edward Jenner when somebody wants to deride the UKs past history.
Vaccina ation 'become cattle'
Using cow pox to cure small pox.
Translation please ?
Sorry I presumed you'd started at Jenner in your open minded research
The initial post stated
"So of any developed in the last 25 years, which vaccines, what side effects and where's the study to prove it ?"
Since Edward Jenber died in 1823 his vaccinations were an awful lot longer ago than 25 years. I suspect this was the reason for the confusion.
Smallpox was eradicated more than 25 years ago
In fact 2020 is the 30th anniversary of it being officially eradicated worldwide.
Vaccinations are one of the greatest of mans creations, so many lives saved."
Heck yes.
In fact if we want to look at smallpox...
Smallpox fatality rate. Up to 30%.
Variolation fatality rate. Up to 2%.
With vaccination: history. Eradicated. Boo ya |
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There are a number of high profile drug trial cases that have failed or gone wrong in the testing phase. Most notable and recently the tgn trials. Needless to say these never make it to mass population, although given most drugs and vaccines have some kind of side effect it goes without saying there will always be cases of individuals that these appear worse than others.
With the covid one, my biggest worry is the speed of which it has been thrown together and the lack of long term testing. Sure enough I don't think the world can't wait given the impact to everyone's life covid has had, I just think there will be a lot of people not wanting to be guinea pigs. I'm no anti vac person by any stretch, I believe whole heartedly in them, just not rushed ones. |
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"Yes you hardly ever hear of Edward Jenner when somebody wants to deride the UKs past history.
Vaccina ation 'become cattle'
Using cow pox to cure small pox.
Translation please ?
Sorry I presumed you'd started at Jenner in your open minded research
The initial post stated
"So of any developed in the last 25 years, which vaccines, what side effects and where's the study to prove it ?"
Since Edward Jenber died in 1823 his vaccinations were an awful lot longer ago than 25 years. I suspect this was the reason for the confusion.
Smallpox was eradicated more than 25 years ago
In fact 2020 is the 30th anniversary of it being officially eradicated worldwide.
Vaccinations are one of the greatest of mans creations, so many lives saved.
Heck yes.
In fact if we want to look at smallpox...
Smallpox fatality rate. Up to 30%.
Variolation fatality rate. Up to 2%.
With vaccination: history. Eradicated. Boo ya "
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"Yes you hardly ever hear of Edward Jenner when somebody wants to deride the UKs past history.
Vaccina ation 'become cattle'
Using cow pox to cure small pox.
Translation please ?
Sorry I presumed you'd started at Jenner in your open minded research
The initial post stated
"So of any developed in the last 25 years, which vaccines, what side effects and where's the study to prove it ?"
Since Edward Jenber died in 1823 his vaccinations were an awful lot longer ago than 25 years. I suspect this was the reason for the confusion. "
I was giving the simple explanation of how vaccination gets its name.
Vaccina (cattle) ine (become) he cured smallpox with cowpox. |
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"There are a number of high profile drug trial cases that have failed or gone wrong in the testing phase. Most notable and recently the tgn trials. Needless to say these never make it to mass population, although given most drugs and vaccines have some kind of side effect it goes without saying there will always be cases of individuals that these appear worse than others.
With the covid one, my biggest worry is the speed of which it has been thrown together and the lack of long term testing. Sure enough I don't think the world can't wait given the impact to everyone's life covid has had, I just think there will be a lot of people not wanting to be guinea pigs. I'm no anti vac person by any stretch, I believe whole heartedly in them, just not rushed ones. "
I will listen to the scientists closer to the time, because I'm not capable of understanding the data. When something is approved, I'll ask my doctor to look at the risk equation for me. (Erring on the side of "I'll do my bit to help")
I think this "it takes ten years to get a vaccine" stuff is overstated. With the usual admin delays, issues securing funding, etc, sure. Who knows, with modern technology and this level of political will and funding, how quickly vaccines could be developed? |
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"There are a number of high profile drug trial cases that have failed or gone wrong in the testing phase. Most notable and recently the tgn trials. Needless to say these never make it to mass population, although given most drugs and vaccines have some kind of side effect it goes without saying there will always be cases of individuals that these appear worse than others.
With the covid one, my biggest worry is the speed of which it has been thrown together and the lack of long term testing. Sure enough I don't think the world can't wait given the impact to everyone's life covid has had, I just think there will be a lot of people not wanting to be guinea pigs. I'm no anti vac person by any stretch, I believe whole heartedly in them, just not rushed ones.
I will listen to the scientists closer to the time, because I'm not capable of understanding the data. When something is approved, I'll ask my doctor to look at the risk equation for me. (Erring on the side of "I'll do my bit to help")
I think this "it takes ten years to get a vaccine" stuff is overstated. With the usual admin delays, issues securing funding, etc, sure. Who knows, with modern technology and this level of political will and funding, how quickly vaccines could be developed?"
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Theres always outliers when dealing with a vaccine given to millions but it's not the norm, it's like when we say two people have caught it twice and therefore there's no such thing as immunity, there outliers in large numbers.
The data on vaccines is that the dangers from outliers outway the dangers of not using one.ie Somebody will possibly die but many millions will live. |
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Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine. |
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine."
Yup, vaccine derived polio is a thing. How bad is it compared to wild type and how is it stopped? |
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Almost every d*ug or vaccine can have life threatening or changing side effects. General Anaesthetic for example is safe for the vast majority but every year people have adverse affects and lose their life. |
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"Almost every d*ug or vaccine can have life threatening or changing side effects. General Anaesthetic for example is safe for the vast majority but every year people have adverse affects and lose their life. "
Everything carries risks. Your house might collapse and kill you.
Lying in bed is dangerous. Teach the controversy! |
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"Almost every d*ug or vaccine can have life threatening or changing side effects. General Anaesthetic for example is safe for the vast majority but every year people have adverse affects and lose their life.
Everything carries risks. Your house might collapse and kill you.
Lying in bed is dangerous. Teach the controversy!"
I quite agree I just think that my risk of taking a vaccine is lower than my risk of catching the virus. |
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"Almost every d*ug or vaccine can have life threatening or changing side effects. General Anaesthetic for example is safe for the vast majority but every year people have adverse affects and lose their life.
Everything carries risks. Your house might collapse and kill you.
Lying in bed is dangerous. Teach the controversy!
I quite agree I just think that my risk of taking a vaccine is lower than my risk of catching the virus. "
Definitely. Vaccines are incredibly safe |
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine."
Polio vaccine is a bit of a specialist example too. It's pretty much the only fully live vaccine still in use. The overwhelming majority of vaccines now do not include the whole organism, just certain antigens (fragments). Those that do include the whole thing are attenuated (killed). The nasal flu vaccine given to children is live attenuated, so technically children may shed virus for a few days after, but it's attenuated so highly unlikely to cause flu in anyone else. |
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"I truly don't get the anti Vaccine thing
Yes there are risks. But there are risks when you take paracetamol.
If it's going to stop people catching it,it baffles me why you would not have it."
People don't understand the seriousness of disease
They don't understand risk
They don't understand that the scientists actually know what they're doing
They want others to shoulder the (tiny) risk for them |
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The efficacy of vaccines vary depending on philology and natural antibodies but on average less than 9% experience an allergic reactions to a vaccine, and on average 0.03% of people administered with a vaccine experience serious or life changing reactions. You have a higher probability (0.04) of being eaten by a polar bear than experiencing a life threatening reaction to a vaccine |
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine."
When was that vaccine developed as a matter of interest ? |
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I'll be honest, I was never really in favour of vaccines particularly the flu until I got flu in Jan 2018 and I'd have given every possession I had to go back three months and get vaccinated. It was three months before I would say I was fully recovered and I have no underlying conditions and am reasonably fit.
I wouldn't be against vaccines and particularly mmr but for Covid I'll probably be front of the queue unless I see cast iron concrete evidence that the virus is safer than the vaccine, as given the safe history of vaccines and the synthetic approach taken with this one it's got my vote and the sooner the better.
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"I'll be honest, I was never really in favour of vaccines particularly the flu until I got flu in Jan 2018 and I'd have given every possession I had to go back three months and get vaccinated. It was three months before I would say I was fully recovered and I have no underlying conditions and am reasonably fit.
I wouldn't be against vaccines and particularly mmr but for Covid I'll probably be front of the queue unless I see cast iron concrete evidence that the virus is safer than the vaccine, as given the safe history of vaccines and the synthetic approach taken with this one it's got my vote and the sooner the better.
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I never gave it much thought, just did as I was told, until I decided to move to the UK and was warned I needed to check my MMR immunity because of higher levels in the UK due to vaccine refusal. And I went... Wtf it's the 21st century.
As far as I'm aware I've never had a vaccine preventable disease and I don't want to start any time soon.
I have friends and relatives who can't receive all vaccines for medical reasons and I want to protect them. |
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"The efficacy of vaccines vary depending on philology and natural antibodies but on average less than 9% experience an allergic reactions to a vaccine, and on average 0.03% of people administered with a vaccine experience serious or life changing reactions. You have a higher probability (0.04) of being eaten by a polar bear than experiencing a life threatening reaction to a vaccine "
I would imagine it's far less than that.
The IFR of covid19 is estimated at 0.03% for under 70s |
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"The efficacy of vaccines vary depending on philology and natural antibodies but on average less than 9% experience an allergic reactions to a vaccine, and on average 0.03% of people administered with a vaccine experience serious or life changing reactions. You have a higher probability (0.04) of being eaten by a polar bear than experiencing a life threatening reaction to a vaccine
I would imagine it's far less than that.
The IFR of covid19 is estimated at 0.03% for under 70s"
And the morbidity? |
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"The efficacy of vaccines vary depending on philology and natural antibodies but on average less than 9% experience an allergic reactions to a vaccine, and on average 0.03% of people administered with a vaccine experience serious or life changing reactions. You have a higher probability (0.04) of being eaten by a polar bear than experiencing a life threatening reaction to a vaccine
I would imagine it's far less than that.
The IFR of covid19 is estimated at 0.03% for under 70s"
Death isn't the only concern you really need to keep up. And by the way your figures are only correct if you follow Sandra on facebook... Sorry |
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"The efficacy of vaccines vary depending on philology and natural antibodies but on average less than 9% experience an allergic reactions to a vaccine, and on average 0.03% of people administered with a vaccine experience serious or life changing reactions. You have a higher probability (0.04) of being eaten by a polar bear than experiencing a life threatening reaction to a vaccine
I would imagine it's far less than that.
The IFR of covid19 is estimated at 0.03% for under 70s
Death isn't the only concern you really need to keep up. And by the way your figures are only correct if you follow Sandra on facebook... Sorry "
That was a peer reviewed paper posted by the WHO.
Take it up with the expert who wrote it.  |
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"The efficacy of vaccines vary depending on philology and natural antibodies but on average less than 9% experience an allergic reactions to a vaccine, and on average 0.03% of people administered with a vaccine experience serious or life changing reactions. You have a higher probability (0.04) of being eaten by a polar bear than experiencing a life threatening reaction to a vaccine
I would imagine it's far less than that.
The IFR of covid19 is estimated at 0.03% for under 70s
Death isn't the only concern you really need to keep up. And by the way your figures are only correct if you follow Sandra on facebook... Sorry
That was a peer reviewed paper posted by the WHO.
Take it up with the expert who wrote it. "
Read the first bit of my previous reply |
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"The efficacy of vaccines vary depending on philology and natural antibodies but on average less than 9% experience an allergic reactions to a vaccine, and on average 0.03% of people administered with a vaccine experience serious or life changing reactions. You have a higher probability (0.04) of being eaten by a polar bear than experiencing a life threatening reaction to a vaccine
I would imagine it's far less than that.
The IFR of covid19 is estimated at 0.03% for under 70s
Death isn't the only concern you really need to keep up. And by the way your figures are only correct if you follow Sandra on facebook... Sorry "
Anyone paralysed by polio doesn't count because they're alive.
The virologist I heard interviewed in late March who can't walk up a mild incline because of presumed lung damage should stop being so fucking lazy, he's not dead.
That lung transplant patient in her 20s is malingering.
Strokes from Covid are invented. |
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"The efficacy of vaccines vary depending on philology and natural antibodies but on average less than 9% experience an allergic reactions to a vaccine, and on average 0.03% of people administered with a vaccine experience serious or life changing reactions. You have a higher probability (0.04) of being eaten by a polar bear than experiencing a life threatening reaction to a vaccine
I would imagine it's far less than that.
The IFR of covid19 is estimated at 0.03% for under 70s
Death isn't the only concern you really need to keep up. And by the way your figures are only correct if you follow Sandra on facebook... Sorry
That was a peer reviewed paper posted by the WHO.
Take it up with the expert who wrote it.
Read the first bit of my previous reply"
I did but it was correct so I didn't need to reply, unlike your bullshit second half |
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"The efficacy of vaccines vary depending on philology and natural antibodies but on average less than 9% experience an allergic reactions to a vaccine, and on average 0.03% of people administered with a vaccine experience serious or life changing reactions. You have a higher probability (0.04) of being eaten by a polar bear than experiencing a life threatening reaction to a vaccine
I would imagine it's far less than that.
The IFR of covid19 is estimated at 0.03% for under 70s
Death isn't the only concern you really need to keep up. And by the way your figures are only correct if you follow Sandra on facebook... Sorry
That was a peer reviewed paper posted by the WHO.
Take it up with the expert who wrote it.
Read the first bit of my previous reply
I did but it was correct so I didn't need to reply, unlike your bullshit second half "
Your figures are still wroong and either way it got nothing to do with the topic of discussion so don't wind yourself up about it. |
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Theres a lot of money at stake with this vaccine, first accross the line makes billions.
I cant imagine the chineese who are already delivering industrial quantities of vaccines will give it away free despite them causing the pandemic.
in fact, to my mind they look to have a vaccine before they should. unless of course this wasnt an unknown virus..... |
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine."
Yes vaccines can be extremely dangerous.
In April, the WHO and its partners reluctantly recommended a temporary halt to mass polio immunisation campaigns in Africa, recognising the move could lead to a resurgence of the disease.
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"Theres a lot of money at stake with this vaccine, first accross the line makes billions.
I cant imagine the chineese who are already delivering industrial quantities of vaccines will give it away free despite them causing the pandemic.
in fact, to my mind they look to have a vaccine before they should. unless of course this wasnt an unknown virus....."
No they already had all the research from their previous sars experience. |
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"Theres a lot of money at stake with this vaccine, first accross the line makes billions.
I cant imagine the chineese who are already delivering industrial quantities of vaccines will give it away free despite them causing the pandemic.
in fact, to my mind they look to have a vaccine before they should. unless of course this wasnt an unknown virus.....
No they already had all the research from their previous sars experience."
And the vaccine front runners are coming out of the UK and the US... |
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"Theres a lot of money at stake with this vaccine, first accross the line makes billions.
I cant imagine the chineese who are already delivering industrial quantities of vaccines will give it away free despite them causing the pandemic.
in fact, to my mind they look to have a vaccine before they should. unless of course this wasnt an unknown virus.....
No they already had all the research from their previous sars experience.
And the vaccine front runners are coming out of the UK and the US..."
The knowledge is open source has been for a while now. |
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"Theres a lot of money at stake with this vaccine, first accross the line makes billions.
I cant imagine the chineese who are already delivering industrial quantities of vaccines will give it away free despite them causing the pandemic.
in fact, to my mind they look to have a vaccine before they should. unless of course this wasnt an unknown virus.....
No they already had all the research from their previous sars experience.
And the vaccine front runners are coming out of the UK and the US..."
I'm sure we will delay the release of the vaccine..
. Just like the assorted delays in lock downs... Because we can.
Oh OK... Just being a grumpy fucker today |
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine.
When was that vaccine developed as a matter of interest ?"
2019.
Happy to debunk your false claim that all vaccines in the last 25 years have been safe.
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine.
When was that vaccine developed as a matter of interest ?
2019.
Happy to debunk your false claim that all vaccines in the last 25 years have been safe.
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No need to be personal really
I asked questions I didn't make claims. I'll read up about it and see what similarities there are to covid-19
I'll assume your having a bad day |
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine.
Yes vaccines can be extremely dangerous.
In April, the WHO and its partners reluctantly recommended a temporary halt to mass polio immunisation campaigns in Africa, recognising the move could lead to a resurgence of the disease.
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Ok, a very quick Google tells me the polio vaccine used in sudan was a weakened live virus.
Should I be concerned about this revelation in relation to the Covid vaccine ? |
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One of my partners is the reason why a certain medication has a side effect warning on it. She nearly died from brain bleeding. I believe out of millions of people who have taken this med, she and one other developed the side effect.
Chances are someone will prove sensitive or allergic to one or more of the covid vaccines. Like one in 100k it's quite normal. Far better odds than not being vaccinated. |
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It's a bit like the flu jabs millions have every year. Most have no I'll effects at all. A few feel sore at the point of entry. Fewer still get a headache or feel ill. But with something like a third of the population having the jab we probably all know someone who had some adverse effect to it. |
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"Theres a lot of money at stake with this vaccine, first accross the line makes billions.
I cant imagine the chineese who are already delivering industrial quantities of vaccines will give it away free despite them causing the pandemic.
in fact, to my mind they look to have a vaccine before they should. unless of course this wasnt an unknown virus....."
Oh for gods sake the US & UK front runners are also already mass producing.
Unusually the research has been funded in main by various governments donating so it's not about money this time. |
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine.
When was that vaccine developed as a matter of interest ?"
1950's
Incidentally, in 1988 350,000 cases of polio were recorded... in 2018 33 cases were reported.
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The vaccine would have to shown to be safe before it is approved. So far none of the 150 or so covid vaccines currently in development have been shown to be safe and effective, but first proper results are likely to be out in December. Hopefully one or more of these vaccines work, and hopefully the immunity will last longer than a few months. We wont really know how effective any of them are in that respect for a year or two. |
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"There are a number of high profile drug trial cases that have failed or gone wrong in the testing phase. Most notable and recently the tgn trials. Needless to say these never make it to mass population, although given most drugs and vaccines have some kind of side effect it goes without saying there will always be cases of individuals that these appear worse than others.
With the covid one, my biggest worry is the speed of which it has been thrown together and the lack of long term testing. Sure enough I don't think the world can't wait given the impact to everyone's life covid has had, I just think there will be a lot of people not wanting to be guinea pigs. I'm no anti vac person by any stretch, I believe whole heartedly in them, just not rushed ones. "
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine.
Yes vaccines can be extremely dangerous.
In April, the WHO and its partners reluctantly recommended a temporary halt to mass polio immunisation campaigns in Africa, recognising the move could lead to a resurgence of the disease.
Ok, a very quick Google tells me the polio vaccine used in sudan was a weakened live virus.
Should I be concerned about this revelation in relation to the Covid vaccine ?"
Short answer - no. It's a totally different type of vaccine.
I posted something earlier about the polio vaccine etc. |
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine.
When was that vaccine developed as a matter of interest ?
1950's
Incidentally, in 1988 350,000 cases of polio were recorded... in 2018 33 cases were reported.
Cal"
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine.
When was that vaccine developed as a matter of interest ?
1950's
Incidentally, in 1988 350,000 cases of polio were recorded... in 2018 33 cases were reported.
Cal
Hopefully they weren't using excel "
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine.
When was that vaccine developed as a matter of interest ?
2019.
Happy to debunk your false claim that all vaccines in the last 25 years have been safe.
No need to be personal really
I asked questions I didn't make claims. I'll read up about it and see what similarities there are to covid-19
I'll assume your having a bad day "
That's astounding hypocrisy considering nearly every reply you make to somebody is way worse than what he wrote |
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"Yes vaccines can have life threatening side effects.
The World Health Organisation had to admit the polio outbreak in Sudan is linked to the oral polio vaccine.
When was that vaccine developed as a matter of interest ?
2019.
Happy to debunk your false claim that all vaccines in the last 25 years have been safe.
No need to be personal really
I asked questions I didn't make claims. I'll read up about it and see what similarities there are to covid-19
I'll assume your having a bad day
That's astounding hypocrisy considering nearly every reply you make to somebody is way worse than what he wrote "
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"The vaccine would have to shown to be safe before it is approved. So far none of the 150 or so covid vaccines currently in development have been shown to be safe and effective, but first proper results are likely to be out in December. Hopefully one or more of these vaccines work, and hopefully the immunity will last longer than a few months. We wont really know how effective any of them are in that respect for a year or two."
But on a positive note none has been shown to be unsafe or ineffective to date |
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So far some have caused very unpleasant but so far short term non-lifethreatening symptoms (fever, headache, painful joints, tiredness) and have possibly caused rare serious problems (but rare effects are difficult to prove until many tens of thousands are vaccinated). efficacy or lack thereof will only be shown once phase 3 trials are complete. |
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You'd likely need to look at meta-analyses, which will investigate effects found over many research trials. These can help to give the statistical power from the numbers included in the individual trials, which may cover an insufficiency to have such power. Most of these analyses are likely to be upon efficacy, in my estimation, though some will be upon safety.
Obviously the initial random controlled trials will be looking at both safety and efficacy, to ensure something works well enough and is safe enough, before potential introduction to the general public. Very rare events, or those occurring in small population sizes, may not become known and understood until later on, when very large populations have had the vaccines. This is partly the driver for adverse events to be reported and collated, which happens around the world. Once large populations have had treatments, the numbers are able to support the power requirements for different, more meaningful statistical analysis. The detailed issues reporting supports the qualitative analysis, so that we can better understand the details of what may be occurring. Through looking across cultures and over longer time periods, it becomes ever easier to get valuable results.
Diseases like flu and other headline grabbing subjects, such as the fraudulent MMR/Autism catastrophe, will be covered more widely than others but you'd be able to narrow or broaden your search for materials as you needed.
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By *rufinWoman
over a year ago
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The last rushed vaccine that I remember was the swine flu one. The first version is linked to narcolepsy. That's not too scary, and the risk is small, but then it turned out the risk from swine flu was small as well. The latest swine flu vaccines aren't linked to narcolepsy. The outcomes of mass vaccination campaigns can be worth waiting for ..
https://www.nhs.uk/news/medication/swine-flu-jab-narcolepsy-risk-is-very-small/
I'll let other people be the mass trial participants to see what the side effects of this one might be. If you're old, it is probably worth the small risk of side effects It's not worth it for my kids - no risk from covid, so why bother. |
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There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happen |
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"The last rushed vaccine that I remember was the swine flu one. The first version is linked to narcolepsy. That's not too scary, and the risk is small, but then it turned out the risk from swine flu was small as well. The latest swine flu vaccines aren't linked to narcolepsy. The outcomes of mass vaccination campaigns can be worth waiting for ..
https://www.nhs.uk/news/medication/swine-flu-jab-narcolepsy-risk-is-very-small/
I'll let other people be the mass trial participants to see what the side effects of this one might be. If you're old, it is probably worth the small risk of side effects It's not worth it for my kids - no risk from covid, so why bother."
I think the paper peer reviewed and published by the WHO by Dr ionndais showed the IFR for under 18s as 0.003% however there has been some cases of long covid in under 18s but again not many.
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happen"
David Attenborough would agree on the problem. Fortunately he offers a more compassionate solution. |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happen"
You pose issues we have and conclude with the worst choice as a solution? We don't have to treat the earth and other life as if it's trash, there are alternatives. Likewise we don't have to have widespread fellow citizens with devastation in their lives - we can feed and sustain this population size, for example and don't have to choose to degrade the world by doing so. Our choices, not the population size, are the issue. |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happen"
Yet you have failed to take the most obvious course of action to reduce the population. |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happen
Yet you have failed to take the most obvious course of action to reduce the population."
And what is this obvious course? |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happen"
Just heard your on the list to be culled do you still feel the same way?
Yes the world is over populated and nature is fighting back but we are programmed to try and survive and if the grim reaper had you next on the list would you feel the same I think not |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happenJust heard your on the list to be culled do you still feel the same way?
Yes the world is over populated and nature is fighting back but we are programmed to try and survive and if the grim reaper had you next on the list would you feel the same I think not"
You clearly didn't understand what I wrote. Culled by nature or war. It could be any of us. It it's my time then it's my time |
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If Vaccines are so safe, why do drug companies get indemnification against vaccine injuries ? Have a quick look at Pandemrix, which is or was a rushed out vaccine for swine flu, produced by GSK, GSK, you know the company that Sir Patrick Vallance, our chief scientific advisor used to be a director of and who still holds £600k of shares in them. Just as a little titbit of info, the 4 main vaccine manufactures have accrued $35 Billion in fines, mostly for lying about vaccine safety.
Ps we are not Anti vaxxers, The world Health Organisation call us Vaccine Deniers now, Nearly forgot Old Tedros the WHO chief is not a doctor and he originally appointed Robert Mugabe as his number 2, but I'm just a vaccine denier conspiracy theorist. |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happenJust heard your on the list to be culled do you still feel the same way?
Yes the world is over populated and nature is fighting back but we are programmed to try and survive and if the grim reaper had you next on the list would you feel the same I think not
You clearly didn't understand what I wrote. Culled by nature or war. It could be any of us. It it's my time then it's my time"
So if you developed an illness that could prove to be fatal if left untreated then you wouldn’t seek treatment? You’d just accept you had it and accept the consequences without medical intervention? |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happenJust heard your on the list to be culled do you still feel the same way?
Yes the world is over populated and nature is fighting back but we are programmed to try and survive and if the grim reaper had you next on the list would you feel the same I think not
You clearly didn't understand what I wrote. Culled by nature or war. It could be any of us. It it's my time then it's my time
So if you developed an illness that could prove to be fatal if left untreated then you wouldn’t seek treatment? You’d just accept you had it and accept the consequences without medical intervention?"
Most likely. I don't go to the doctors, no check ups and no visits, so I wouldn't know until it's too late anyway |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happenJust heard your on the list to be culled do you still feel the same way?
Yes the world is over populated and nature is fighting back but we are programmed to try and survive and if the grim reaper had you next on the list would you feel the same I think not
You clearly didn't understand what I wrote. Culled by nature or war. It could be any of us. It it's my time then it's my time
So if you developed an illness that could prove to be fatal if left untreated then you wouldn’t seek treatment? You’d just accept you had it and accept the consequences without medical intervention?
Most likely. I don't go to the doctors, no check ups and no visits, so I wouldn't know until it's too late anyway"
You wouldn’t seek medical advice if you were in inexplicable pain? If there was blood in your urine/faeces? If a mole on your skin grew dark, itchy and started to bleed? |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happenJust heard your on the list to be culled do you still feel the same way?
Yes the world is over populated and nature is fighting back but we are programmed to try and survive and if the grim reaper had you next on the list would you feel the same I think not
You clearly didn't understand what I wrote. Culled by nature or war. It could be any of us. It it's my time then it's my time
So if you developed an illness that could prove to be fatal if left untreated then you wouldn’t seek treatment? You’d just accept you had it and accept the consequences without medical intervention?
Most likely. I don't go to the doctors, no check ups and no visits, so I wouldn't know until it's too late anyway
You wouldn’t seek medical advice if you were in inexplicable pain? If there was blood in your urine/faeces? If a mole on your skin grew dark, itchy and started to bleed? "
Already have one of the above. And no, why would I. If it's my time it's my time |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happenJust heard your on the list to be culled do you still feel the same way?
Yes the world is over populated and nature is fighting back but we are programmed to try and survive and if the grim reaper had you next on the list would you feel the same I think not
You clearly didn't understand what I wrote. Culled by nature or war. It could be any of us. It it's my time then it's my time
So if you developed an illness that could prove to be fatal if left untreated then you wouldn’t seek treatment? You’d just accept you had it and accept the consequences without medical intervention?
Most likely. I don't go to the doctors, no check ups and no visits, so I wouldn't know until it's too late anyway
You wouldn’t seek medical advice if you were in inexplicable pain? If there was blood in your urine/faeces? If a mole on your skin grew dark, itchy and started to bleed?
Already have one of the above. And no, why would I. If it's my time it's my time"
Fair enough. As you say, it’s your life, to be lived as you see fit. I wish you good health. |
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"Yes you hardly ever hear of Edward Jenner when somebody wants to deride the UKs past history.
Vaccina ation 'become cattle'
Using cow pox to cure small pox.
Translation please ?
Sorry I presumed you'd started at Jenner in your open minded research
The initial post stated
"So of any developed in the last 25 years, which vaccines, what side effects and where's the study to prove it ?"
Since Edward Jenber died in 1823 his vaccinations were an awful lot longer ago than 25 years. I suspect this was the reason for the confusion.
Smallpox was eradicated more than 25 years ago "
It's just the American and the Russians still have it in their labs, which is an ongoing concern. Presumably, each keeping it because the other has it. |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happen"
I'll agree with you. However man has an inbuilt DNA survival mechanism, mental, physical and emotional, which IMO will ultimately lead to his destruction.
Most will think this is not compassionate of you to suggest such a thing, however most believe in evolution yet by their actions want to control and change it's natural course.
Part of the problems we have with our health system is people wanting more things, replacing these things well before their end of used by date, want to live longer and naturally retire earlier.
The great dycotomy of life which will cause extinction but huge suffering before it happens.
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happenJust heard your on the list to be culled do you still feel the same way?
Yes the world is over populated and nature is fighting back but we are programmed to try and survive and if the grim reaper had you next on the list would you feel the same I think not
You clearly didn't understand what I wrote. Culled by nature or war. It could be any of us. It it's my time then it's my time
So if you developed an illness that could prove to be fatal if left untreated then you wouldn’t seek treatment? You’d just accept you had it and accept the consequences without medical intervention?
Most likely. I don't go to the doctors, no check ups and no visits, so I wouldn't know until it's too late anyway"
If you were taken to hospital for emergency treatment, you'd refuse too?
Part of our evolutionary journey has been natural selection for adaptive beneficial traits, which includes those that support physical and mental fitness for survival. Our health system has been built because of evolutionary natural selection. Other species have made similar gains, through their adaptive use of processes that fuel their greater survival success, though our probably has the greater complexity and success.
You'd refuse hospital testing and health services that could help you to survive? |
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Does increased risk of co infection with other viruses count as a side effect of the flu vaccination?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X19313647
Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 influenza season |
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"Does increased risk of co infection with other viruses count as a side effect of the flu vaccination?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X19313647
Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 influenza season"
Interesting point raised. |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happenJust heard your on the list to be culled do you still feel the same way?
Yes the world is over populated and nature is fighting back but we are programmed to try and survive and if the grim reaper had you next on the list would you feel the same I think not
You clearly didn't understand what I wrote. Culled by nature or war. It could be any of us. It it's my time then it's my time
So if you developed an illness that could prove to be fatal if left untreated then you wouldn’t seek treatment? You’d just accept you had it and accept the consequences without medical intervention?
Most likely. I don't go to the doctors, no check ups and no visits, so I wouldn't know until it's too late anyway
If you were taken to hospital for emergency treatment, you'd refuse too?
Part of our evolutionary journey has been natural selection for adaptive beneficial traits, which includes those that support physical and mental fitness for survival. Our health system has been built because of evolutionary natural selection. Other species have made similar gains, through their adaptive use of processes that fuel their greater survival success, though our probably has the greater complexity and success.
You'd refuse hospital testing and health services that could help you to survive? "
Fortunately I don't believe in the theory of evolution (but that is another topic). Humans have been devolving though. Getting weaker and weaker. More intelligent yes, but physically (DNA) weaker |
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"There is also the question of 'Do we really need vaccinations?'
Do we really need to save everyone? People are going on about climate change and things like that. Mostly caused be humans. Isn't it just mother nature's way of thinning the herd?
The earth can't sustain growth at the current rate for that much longer. I think we do need a cull. Maybe even another world war. Yes, I know, a terrible thing to say. But I am just of the opinion that the place is over crowded and something needs to happenJust heard your on the list to be culled do you still feel the same way?
Yes the world is over populated and nature is fighting back but we are programmed to try and survive and if the grim reaper had you next on the list would you feel the same I think not
You clearly didn't understand what I wrote. Culled by nature or war. It could be any of us. It it's my time then it's my time
So if you developed an illness that could prove to be fatal if left untreated then you wouldn’t seek treatment? You’d just accept you had it and accept the consequences without medical intervention?
Most likely. I don't go to the doctors, no check ups and no visits, so I wouldn't know until it's too late anyway
If you were taken to hospital for emergency treatment, you'd refuse too?
Part of our evolutionary journey has been natural selection for adaptive beneficial traits, which includes those that support physical and mental fitness for survival. Our health system has been built because of evolutionary natural selection. Other species have made similar gains, through their adaptive use of processes that fuel their greater survival success, though our probably has the greater complexity and success.
You'd refuse hospital testing and health services that could help you to survive? Fortunately I don't believe in the theory of evolution (but that is another topic). Humans have been devolving though. Getting weaker and weaker. More intelligent yes, but physically (DNA) weaker"
You don’t believe in evolution but you do believe in devolution? |
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"Does increased risk of co infection with other viruses count as a side effect of the flu vaccination?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X19313647
Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 influenza season"
Aw shite too late we went last week  |
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By *DGF20Man
over a year ago
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"I don't understand the point of debate every day about vaccine...if u want stay in the queue and take your dose, your body your choice...and good luck
Maybe you shouldn't read them then ?"
So i should read only if i want to be vaccinated?? Wtf is wrong with you? I just read some of your comments...please turn off the internet and get the life |
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"I've heard people don't believe in evolution because it shows religions are fake
I don't believe in either.the theory is just not watertight enough"
You are right. Did you know that when Darwin came up with the theory of evolution, he wrote an entire book on 'problems with the theory'. Which to this day have not been resolved. What does this say about the robustness of the original theory which is nowadays regarded as gospel truth by so many?
I think all it comes down to is that the proponents of the theory just had a really good marketing campaign and were able to convince people it's legit. If 'they' say it's true, it most be true. Can't possibly question the scientists. |
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"Almost every d*ug or vaccine can have life threatening or changing side effects. General Anaesthetic for example is safe for the vast majority but every year people have adverse affects and lose their life. "
I wouldn’t say General Anaesthetics are safe. You actually stop breathing under anaesthetics and have to be mechanically ventilated there are huge risks involved but these are calculated and your life is in the hands of the anaesthetist. |
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"I don't understand the point of debate every day about vaccine...if u want stay in the queue and take your dose, your body your choice...and good luck
Maybe you shouldn't read them then ?
So i should read only if i want to be vaccinated?? Wtf is wrong with you? I just read some of your comments...please turn off the internet and get the life "
Rather than becoming aggressive and abusive perhaps you should scroll past posts that obviously upset you |
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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago
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"Now on sky news they are reporting on 2 cases who got an allergic reaction from the vaccine. I hope they are ok."
2 allergic reactions out of 5000 administered vaccinations so far is 0.0004%
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"Now on sky news they are reporting on 2 cases who got an allergic reaction from the vaccine. I hope they are ok.
2 allergic reactions out of 5000 administered vaccinations so far is 0.0004%
You have a greater chance of being abducted by aliens."
No you really don’t. |
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"Now on sky news they are reporting on 2 cases who got an allergic reaction from the vaccine. I hope they are ok.
2 allergic reactions out of 5000 administered vaccinations so far is 0.0004%
You have a greater chance of being abducted by aliens.
No you really don’t."
they have, said they expect a reaction in the ratio of 1,in every 1000
So if 70 million have the vaccine at least 70000 will get a, reaction of some kind |
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"Now on sky news they are reporting on 2 cases who got an allergic reaction from the vaccine. I hope they are ok.
2 allergic reactions out of 5000 administered vaccinations so far is 0.0004%
You have a greater chance of being abducted by aliens."
2 out of 5000 is not 0.0004% it's 0.04%... that's 100 times more.
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By *ild_oatsMan
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"Now on sky news they are reporting on 2 cases who got an allergic reaction from the vaccine. I hope they are ok.
2 allergic reactions out of 5000 administered vaccinations so far is 0.0004%
You have a greater chance of being abducted by aliens.
No you really don’t."
It’s called sarcasm.....  |
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"Now on sky news they are reporting on 2 cases who got an allergic reaction from the vaccine. I hope they are ok.
2 allergic reactions out of 5000 administered vaccinations so far is 0.0004%
You have a greater chance of being abducted by aliens.
No you really don’t.
It’s called sarcasm..... "
You need to try better |
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By *ild_oatsMan
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"Now on sky news they are reporting on 2 cases who got an allergic reaction from the vaccine. I hope they are ok.
2 allergic reactions out of 5000 administered vaccinations so far is 0.0004%
You have a greater chance of being abducted by aliens.
No you really don’t.
It’s called sarcasm.....
You need to try better"
Or you could find your sense of humour..... before the aliens arrive..... |
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"Now on sky news they are reporting on 2 cases who got an allergic reaction from the vaccine. I hope they are ok.
2 allergic reactions out of 5000 administered vaccinations so far is 0.0004%
And both recovered quickly and will receive the second shots in three weeks.
You have a greater chance of being abducted by aliens."
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