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It's ok for us to break the rules...

By *egliean OP Couple over a year ago

Torbay

Yeah right,, I bet most of you know someone who says they follow the rules,,then have to admit to breaking them because it doesn't quite fit in with their lives. Like family round from more than one house hold. People just calling for coffee,, few extra friends just happened to turn up it's wasn't ment to be a party., the list goes on, but every time an excuse why it's ok for them .

NO IT FUCKING WELL ISN'T. May be ok for them,, but if it hits them, then it's totally a different ball game.

If the authrories carried out the policing of the lockdown in the first place like finding the party people, protesters and the ones it so called doesn't apply to them, because.,,,,. We might not be in the shit we are now. It's not only the governments fault ,, it's the people who are so called exempt from the rules. And to them a big thank you for fucking up the rest of us with your lame excuses, and stupid arguments and fantasy reasoning.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Do you feel better now..?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I trust my family fully

There is not one MP or MsP of whom I trust or care about

what makes you think for one second I would trust any MP over and above my family?

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By * and R cple4Couple over a year ago

swansea

A family were caught travelling 5 hours into wales from Surrey for non essential reasons .They obviously knew it was wrong as they were caught by police coming over border in the early hours of the morning. It’s selfish people like this that is going to make this awful virus stay around..

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By *ighugs69Man over a year ago

Port Talbot

Next door have been ignoring the local restrictions we've had for weeks. Now Wales is in a national lockdown unsurprisingly they're carrying on the same.

Never got with them since they moved in - I'm now keep an even bigger distance from them

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

Well i am breaking the rules by staying over at my mums on my days off. She broke her hip under 3weeks ago and after 9 days in hospital and an operation she was sent back home with no care package as she lives in a bungalow. There is no way she would manage on her own so i have been helping and so has my sister and her husband.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Next door have been ignoring the local restrictions we've had for weeks. Now Wales is in a national lockdown unsurprisingly they're carrying on the same.

Never got with them since they moved in - I'm now keep an even bigger distance from them

Why aren't you grassing them up?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have to travel with a workmate all over the country in a work van.

So no social distancing so not following the guidelines.

But needs must.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Another post ranting at random strangers, when the main drivers of transmission are education settings and the workplace.

But if it makes them feel better crack on.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Yeah right,, I bet most of you know someone who says they follow the rules,,then have to admit to breaking them because it doesn't quite fit in with their lives. Like family round from more than one house hold. People just calling for coffee,, few extra friends just happened to turn up it's wasn't ment to be a party., the list goes on, but every time an excuse why it's ok for them .

NO IT FUCKING WELL ISN'T. May be ok for them,, but if it hits them, then it's totally a different ball game.

You ok hun?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Another post ranting at random strangers, when the main drivers of transmission are education settings and the workplace.

But if it makes them feel better crack on."

PLEEEEEEEEEASE don't encourage them to start on the students again

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By *idnight_Express69Man over a year ago

Rochdale

NO IT FUCKING WELL ISN'T. May be ok for them,, but if it hits them, then it's totally a different ball game.

Three deep breaths

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By *ancs MinxWoman over a year ago

Burnley

"Well i am breaking the rules by staying over at my mums on my days off. She broke her hip under 3weeks ago and after 9 days in hospital and an operation she was sent back home with no care package as she lives in a bungalow. There is no way she would manage on her own so i have been helping and so has my sister and her husband. "

We all have our reasons for taking risks or bending the rules, nobody knows or has the right to tell people what is important to them, as it may be important to one person but not the other......

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By *evaquitCouple over a year ago

Catthorpe

There's some things you have to do in life and this is what I'd be doing too. A stickler for the rules here and I'd be petrified of them catching the virus from me, I'd be super clean with all steps taken, ie ppe, change of clothing, sanitised excessively but would absolutely help in this situation, no way would I leave my parent to fend for themselves knowing they couldn't.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

It's not breaking the rules to provide care to a vulnerable/ill/disabled person. It's one of the few exceptions to the rules.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

For some reasons rules, guidance etc are second fiddle..

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's not breaking the rules to provide care to a vulnerable/ill/disabled person. It's one of the few exceptions to the rules."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’ll be the first to admit I pushed the boundaries but kept my parents safe during the lockdown

Last week they came back from a few days away from down south and also riddled with the virus... and passed it to me as I was staying in their house looking after their dog.

My parents wore masks, sprayed their hands with anti back, sprayed everywhere with dettol and still caught it

I learned the hard way... stay at home!!

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,"

This is nonsense.

You might feel that this is true but your home falls under UK law. Even when it upsets you.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

Oh really I like to see where it states that in law that my private property comes under UK law

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Oh really I like to see where it states that in law that my private property comes under UK law"

Certain agencies and public bodies have right of access to your property regardless if you are there or not..

If there is a public safety risk etc and you can't be contacted, entry will be effected..

Even if you do live in a castle..

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

This is nonsense.

You might feel that this is true but your home falls under UK law. Even when it upsets you."

It's called a trespass and I've used it in the past, even with a court order, it's a trespass

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By *ighugs69Man over a year ago

Port Talbot

"Next door have been ignoring the local restrictions we've had for weeks. Now Wales is in a national lockdown unsurprisingly they're carrying on the same.

Never got with them since they moved in - I'm now keep an even bigger distance from them

Why aren't you grassing them up?

Would be a waste of time, they have a copper in the family

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"Oh really I like to see where it states that in law that my private property comes under UK law

Certain agencies and public bodies have right of access to your property regardless if you are there or not..

If there is a public safety risk etc and you can't be contacted, entry will be effected..

Even if you do live in a castle.."

It cannot pose a public threat if it's on my private property, what part of private don't you get?

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By *ancs MinxWoman over a year ago

Burnley

"Oh really I like to see where it states that in law that my private property comes under UK law

Certain agencies and public bodies have right of access to your property regardless if you are there or not..

If there is a public safety risk etc and you can't be contacted, entry will be effected..

Even if you do live in a castle.."

Doubt they would use these means for covid though

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Oh really I like to see where it states that in law that my private property comes under UK law"

Is your home in a separate jurisdiction to the UK? Perhaps a remote island that is unclaimed by any country?

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Next door have been ignoring the local restrictions we've had for weeks. Now Wales is in a national lockdown unsurprisingly they're carrying on the same.

Never got with them since they moved in - I'm now keep an even bigger distance from them

Why aren't you grassing them up?

Would be a waste of time, they have a copper in the family

Then they should know better, mind you the law only applies to everyone but coppers it seems

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

Define the UK, who is this UK?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Oh really I like to see where it states that in law that my private property comes under UK law

Certain agencies and public bodies have right of access to your property regardless if you are there or not..

If there is a public safety risk etc and you can't be contacted, entry will be effected..

Even if you do live in a castle..

It cannot pose a public threat if it's on my private property, what part of private don't you get?"

Do you believe you can commit crime with impunity from within the walls of your castle?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

This is nonsense.

You might feel that this is true but your home falls under UK law. Even when it upsets you.

It's called a trespass and I've used it in the past, even with a court order, it's a trespass"

Yeah ok

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"Oh really I like to see where it states that in law that my private property comes under UK law

Certain agencies and public bodies have right of access to your property regardless if you are there or not..

If there is a public safety risk etc and you can't be contacted, entry will be effected..

Even if you do live in a castle..

It cannot pose a public threat if it's on my private property, what part of private don't you get?

Do you believe you can commit crime with impunity from within the walls of your castle?"

A crime on who?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Define the UK, who is this UK?"

The Queen or the Queen in Parliament. Technically the Queen owns your property because she owns all land in the borders, so, you know, have fun

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I can't even

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Oh really I like to see where it states that in law that my private property comes under UK law

Certain agencies and public bodies have right of access to your property regardless if you are there or not..

If there is a public safety risk etc and you can't be contacted, entry will be effected..

Even if you do live in a castle..

It cannot pose a public threat if it's on my private property, what part of private don't you get?

Do you believe you can commit crime with impunity from within the walls of your castle?

A crime on who?"

Anyone. Eg, can you sell drugs from your living room? Can you orchestrate money laundering? Can you abuse another resident of your home/castle?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ll be the first to admit I pushed the boundaries but kept my parents safe during the lockdown

Last week they came back from a few days away from down south and also riddled with the virus... and passed it to me as I was staying in their house looking after their dog.

My parents wore masks, sprayed their hands with anti back, sprayed everywhere with dettol and still caught it

I learned the hard way... stay at home!!

Hope you are all doing ok.

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By *iger4uWoman over a year ago

In my happy place

"Next door have been ignoring the local restrictions we've had for weeks. Now Wales is in a national lockdown unsurprisingly they're carrying on the same.

Never got with them since they moved in - I'm now keep an even bigger distance from them

Why aren't you grassing them up?

Would be a waste of time, they have a copper in the family

Local authority enforcement team is the way.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Oh really I like to see where it states that in law that my private property comes under UK law

Certain agencies and public bodies have right of access to your property regardless if you are there or not..

If there is a public safety risk etc and you can't be contacted, entry will be effected..

Even if you do live in a castle..

It cannot pose a public threat if it's on my private property, what part of private don't you get?

Do you believe you can commit crime with impunity from within the walls of your castle?

A crime on who?"

A crime against the state, the community, if necessary. That's how it works.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,"

Even if that were true (hint, it's not). They would be perfectly at liberty to then prevent you then leaving your self declared "private" property. And of course, there would be no requirement for the UK to then provide your "private" property with things like water, electricity or gas. So unless you are prepared have your castle put under a medieval style siege, it suggest you don't try claiming that one. If you need another example of how this doesn't actually work, when was the last time you heard of charges being dropped against a crack den cause "it's ok cause it was private property"?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Our rules are.... there are no rules!!!! We both have more years behind us than in front and we intend to enjoy every last minute of the time we have left.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

why do you quote UK law, when the Law of Scotland is totally different from the Laws of England, especially when regarding "trespass" & the right to roam.

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,"

Some are more equal than others

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

why do you quote UK law, when the Law of Scotland is totally different from the Laws of England, especially when regarding "trespass" & the right to roam."

Ok, admittedly my familiarity is with English law, or English/Welsh where applicable.

Please explain how Scottish law deals with crimes in private property or how it has any Covid restrictions or indeed it functions even vaguely as a society if the law is "on my property" (still belongs to the Queen

) "I can do what I like"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Oh really I like to see where it states that in law that my private property comes under UK law

Certain agencies and public bodies have right of access to your property regardless if you are there or not..

If there is a public safety risk etc and you can't be contacted, entry will be effected..

Even if you do live in a castle..

It cannot pose a public threat if it's on my private property, what part of private don't you get?"

What part of a really simple occurrence as a gas leak don't you understand?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

why do you quote UK law, when the Law of Scotland is totally different from the Laws of England, especially when regarding "trespass" & the right to roam."

Scottish law is indeed different, however under current regulations, police are allowed to enter your house without a warrant to break up a gathering of more than 16 people.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/scotland/law-and-courts/legal-system-s/police-s/police-powers-to-stop-and-search-enter-private-property-and-seize-goods-s/

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By *mmmMaybeCouple over a year ago

West Wales

"Define the UK, who is this UK?"

So what you are saying is my home my rules, an Englishman’s home is his castle etc. & if you choose not to follow U.K. guidelines by say having mates over to watch boxing or whatever there’s nothing anyone can do about it.

If so have you not watched the News in the past eight months, police kicking people out of house parties, in Essex breaking up an 80 person wedding reception & sending them home etc.

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By * Plus ECouple over a year ago

The South

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,"

I simply cannot LoL this enough.

Some people do have funny ideas.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

why do you quote UK law, when the Law of Scotland is totally different from the Laws of England, especially when regarding "trespass" & the right to roam.

Scottish law is indeed different, however under current regulations, police are allowed to enter your house without a warrant to break up a gathering of more than 16 people.

I've just found the Citizen's Advice page myself.

I also found legal commentary (2 November 2016 from a firm called Thompsons Scotland) which explains that there are civil trespassing laws dating back to a case from 1791, muddied by the right to roam laws introduced in 2003, which is a right to access public lands (exceptions apply). Orders can be made to prevent trespass and breaches of said order may become criminal matters.

Quite what this has to do with police exercising their powers to enforce the law, I don't have a clue, because it seems like absolutely nothing.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

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By *egliean OP Couple over a year ago

Torbay

There's always going to be genuine reasons, and read carefully, I have no issues with that. My issues are with the piss takers, which everyone can see. All these replies about 'my freedom ' with no respect for the life's of others, because that's what it is, sayes it all of the people not trying to help others. How many times have you read the virus doesn't exist,, yeah right,, tell that to some one who lost their mother. I once spoke to someone at a club years back about Aids. He, and his wife said if they caught it, they would carry on as normal, that is classed as manslaughter, cant see any difference to passing on covid if you know you have it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There's always going to be genuine reasons, and read carefully, I have no issues with that. My issues are with the piss takers, which everyone can see. All these replies about 'my freedom ' with no respect for the life's of others, because that's what it is, sayes it all of the people not trying to help others. How many times have you read the virus doesn't exist,, yeah right,, tell that to some one who lost their mother. I once spoke to someone at a club years back about Aids. He, and his wife said if they caught it, they would carry on as normal, that is classed as manslaughter, cant see any difference to passing on covid if you know you have it"

Have to agree with you here. Though I feel if my children need to go to school every day , no matter how bad it gets, then they are safe enough to play at the park or have friends over.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

ah so the Queen owns the land and owns my property, well she better pay for the maintenance upkeep and mortgage on my property.

If i want to do drugs onmy property then i will do drugs on y property, if somebody wishes to buy drugs on my property then they can do so ( and no dont before anybody accuses me of dealing). If i cause harm on anybody elses property then they can can sue me personally, not the state not the queen, .

If the queen or Mrs UK as you put it wishes to sue me, then she has abig problem, if the courts are HMCTS then she cannot do a thing because then it becomes a conflict of interest

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"ah so the Queen owns the land and owns my property, well she better pay for the maintenance upkeep and mortgage on my property.

If the queen or Mrs UK as you put it wishes to sue me, then she has abig problem, if the courts are HMCTS then she cannot do a thing because then it becomes a conflict of interest"

Umm.

No.

That's not how any of this works.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple over a year ago

West Wales

I wonder if you got the ONS to do a correlation study on those that don’t believe or think it’s “Bigged up” etc they’d find a large link to football supporters & or those that spend at least one night every weekend in a pub, club etc.

IE. Are they really mom believers or are they just saying that because the truth is they want their life back & fuck everyone else whether it’s real or not?

But then that’s a bit less palatable to others.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"ah so the Queen owns the land and owns my property, well she better pay for the maintenance upkeep and mortgage on my property.

If the queen or Mrs UK as you put it wishes to sue me, then she has abig problem, if the courts are HMCTS then she cannot do a thing because then it becomes a conflict of interest"

Now you're just being silly

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

NO IT FUCKING WELL ISN'T. May be ok for them,, but if it hits them, then it's totally a different ball game.

Oh for goodness sake..when will the sheeple realise that we're ALL gonna get it..that's if we haven't already, without knowing it!!

Just keep yourself safe & do what you think is best..stop getting your panties in a bunch about other people!

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

NO IT FUCKING WELL ISN'T. May be ok for them,, but if it hits them, then it's totally a different ball game.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"ah so the Queen owns the land and owns my property, well she better pay for the maintenance upkeep and mortgage on my property.

If the queen or Mrs UK as you put it wishes to sue me, then she has abig problem, if the courts are HMCTS then she cannot do a thing because then it becomes a conflict of interest

Now you're just being silly

Oh who says this isnt the way it works, what proof do you have that im being silly????? tell you what the day you go into court and you get that Magistrate to bring the Queen before the court to be questioned and cross examined and they ignore you then ill belive you, but trust me this is how i know, been there and done it and had the case thrown out because the Judge knew i wasnt being silly and he knew i knew exactly how this worked.

When i say something its because ive been there and done it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

NO IT FUCKING WELL ISN'T. May be ok for them,, but if it hits them, then it's totally a different ball game.

Ooooooh dnt hold back. Let it go. Deep breaths

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I got nothing

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that"

Citizens Advice Scotland talks about how the police can come into your home with a warrant and, in some instances under coronavirus regulations, without one, for the enforcement of the law. For example.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

you must have something for you to say it doesnt work like that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im sure no one would blame you for doing that id do the same thing. I keep by the rules but I do meet my sister as im alone but we meet outdoors.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"you must have something for you to say it doesnt work like that"

I have no words to express my disbelief that someone can be so misinformed about the nature of a legal system.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

They talk aboutit but they still cannot come in with a warrant, that warrant must be secured by an insurance certificate, because if anybody is injured on their private property by a public servant, then that public is Personally Liable for any injury or damage casued

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that"

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

Just like you have to have public insurance to take your car on a public road, it has to be insured, all you are doing is reversing the roles.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

... So they can come in to enforce the law, then. Which you're not exempt from because it's your land.

Uh huh.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"ah so the Queen owns the land and owns my property, well she better pay for the maintenance upkeep and mortgage on my property.

If the queen or Mrs UK as you put it wishes to sue me, then she has abig problem, if the courts are HMCTS then she cannot do a thing because then it becomes a conflict of interest

Now you're just being silly

When i say something its because ive been there and done it"

What do I need to go to court for?

I'm not an idiot that goes around breaking laws to get in such a position

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc."

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"ah so the Queen owns the land and owns my property, well she better pay for the maintenance upkeep and mortgage on my property.

If the queen or Mrs UK as you put it wishes to sue me, then she has abig problem, if the courts are HMCTS then she cannot do a thing because then it becomes a conflict of interest

Now you're just being silly

When i say something its because ive been there and done it

What do I need to go to court for?

I'm not an idiot that goes around breaking laws to get in such a position"

No im just a man minding my own business on my own private property

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???"

Do you live in the wild west?

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

... So they can come in to enforce the law, then. Which you're not exempt from because it's your land.

Uh huh."

Public and Private do not mix damn right its my property

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???"

What does this have to do with the fact that if you break the law on your property, you're still liable to sanction and the police can enforce that?

I suggest you Google the Scots legal system if you'd like a primer on it.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???

Do you live in the wild west?"

Do i need to to protect my property, ?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

... So they can come in to enforce the law, then. Which you're not exempt from because it's your land.

Uh huh.

Public and Private do not mix damn right its my property"

... That's not how any of this works.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???

What does this have to do with the fact that if you break the law on your property, you're still liable to sanction and the police can enforce that?

I suggest you Google the Scots legal system if you'd like a primer on it."

Hmm the Scots Legal System, do tell me is the Legal Society paid for by the tax payer or is it a privately funded body????

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By * Plus ECouple over a year ago

The South

"ah so the Queen owns the land and owns my property, well she better pay for the maintenance upkeep and mortgage on my property.

If the queen or Mrs UK as you put it wishes to sue me, then she has abig problem, if the courts are HMCTS then she cannot do a thing because then it becomes a conflict of interest

Now you're just being silly

I thought only teenagers were this daft.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I suggest you look for reputable sources on Scots criminal and property law before your misjudgement about the meaning of property ownership gets you into a lot of legal trouble.

I am not a lawyer but I think this is legal advice.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

... So they can come in to enforce the law, then. Which you're not exempt from because it's your land.

Uh huh.

Public and Private do not mix damn right its my property

... That's not how any of this works."

I'm just going to sit back & watch you try to educate this one

good luck

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???"

The defendant is the person/people defending themselves from the prosecution of The Crown. The defendant is accused of something; The Crown (via the CPS) presents the evidence they have to substantiate the accusation and then a Magistrate hears the initial case. If it's a serious accusation, Magistrate escalates to the Crown court for trial by jury, overseen by a Judge. If minor, the Magistrate can apply relatively minor sanctions. Magistrates can also hear types of civil case, like family disputes.

The Crown is the Monarch.

Give me a laugh - you've not even mentioned Magna Carta yet

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By *ionelhutzMan over a year ago

liverpool

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???

Do you live in the wild west?

Do i need to to protect my property, ?"

I don't know

That's why I asked do you live out on frontier land?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???

What does this have to do with the fact that if you break the law on your property, you're still liable to sanction and the police can enforce that?

I suggest you Google the Scots legal system if you'd like a primer on it.

Hmm the Scots Legal System, do tell me is the Legal Society paid for by the tax payer or is it a privately funded body????"

Oh my god

Do you think if you throw a big enough tantrum centuries of law will vanish?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???

The Crown is the Monarch.

Give me a laugh - you've not even mentioned Magna Carta yet

* Scots law may differ

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

... So they can come in to enforce the law, then. Which you're not exempt from because it's your land.

Uh huh.

Public and Private do not mix damn right its my property

... That's not how any of this works.

I'm just going to sit back & watch you try to educate this one

good luck"

I think this is too much for even me. I just... It's just so wrong it's a beacon of wrongness. A star, greater than the sun, radiating wrongness.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???

The Crown is the Monarch.

Give me a laugh - you've not even mentioned Magna Carta yet

Why would i need to mention Mana Carta? Hmm so im there accused of something by the Crown throught eh CPS, okkk lets break this doen shall we, why are you defending yourself when the burden of proof is upon the accusor???? hmm the accusor isnt even in court so your right to face cross examine and question your accusor has been removed, hmm sounds similar to COVID 19 regulations slowly tke away rights. Now we have the CPS who cant even prove a thig because they werent even witness to any facts, so when you go back to the CPS and ask them for their proof of what they just stated was their first hand knowledge of the facts, you watch them crawl into theit law books to try and find an answer to that one.

If the crown wishes to make an alegation then she must come and give her facts so i can cross examine and question her, like i say been there done that and had the case thrown out

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???

The Crown is the Monarch.

Give me a laugh - you've not even mentioned Magna Carta yet

* Scots law may differ"

I'd missed the bit on Scotland

It's still The Crown at the ultimate head. To quote re: the High Court of Justiciary of Scotland:

"Appointed by the Monarch on recommendation of the First Minister of Scotland or Scottish Ministers who receive a recommendation from the Judicial Appointments Board for Scotland"

So, the High Court is appointed by the Monarch (the same one that's The Crown in England) but again, she essentially delegates the decisions on appointment to the Scottish Govt via the First Minister.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

all im saying is yes they can enforce whatthey like in Public, but when it comes to your private property they cannot trespass

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???

The Crown is the Monarch.

Give me a laugh - you've not even mentioned Magna Carta yet

* Scots law may differ

I'd missed the bit on Scotland

It's still The Crown at the ultimate head. To quote re: the High Court of Justiciary of Scotland:

"Appointed by the Monarch on recommendation of the First Minister of Scotland or Scottish Ministers who receive a recommendation from the Judicial Appointments Board for Scotland"

Yeah. I know enough about Scots law not to generalise. Their criminal law is quite different to English/Welsh.

But not *this* kind of different

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"all im saying is yes they can enforce whatthey like in Public, but when it comes to your private property they cannot trespass"

And what we're saying is that that's bullshit.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???

The Crown is the Monarch.

Give me a laugh - you've not even mentioned Magna Carta yet

* Scots law may differ

I'd missed the bit on Scotland

It's still The Crown at the ultimate head. To quote re: the High Court of Justiciary of Scotland:

"Appointed by the Monarch on recommendation of the First Minister of Scotland or Scottish Ministers who receive a recommendation from the Judicial Appointments Board for Scotland"

Indeed whichis why she cannot comein personally because its a conflict of interest

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By *oi_LucyCouple over a year ago

Barbados

"Our rules are.... there are no rules!!!! We both have more years behind us than in front and we intend to enjoy every last minute of the time we have left.

There we go! That's the "fuck everyone else, I'm OK Jack!" mentality that we love, isn't it.

But so long as you are OK and having fun, that is just dandy.

And people wonder why we need mandates and lockdowns.

-Matt

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"Our rules are.... there are no rules!!!! We both have more years behind us than in front and we intend to enjoy every last minute of the time we have left.

There we go! That's the "fuck everyone else, I'm OK Jack!" mentality that we love, isn't it.

But so long as you are OK and having fun, that is just dandy.

And people wonder why we need mandates and lockdowns.

-Matt"

Well we had three Polititians do the very same thing didnt we, oh fuck the minions im a polititian these rules dont apply to me

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

... So they can come in to enforce the law, then. Which you're not exempt from because it's your land.

Uh huh.

Public and Private do not mix damn right its my property

... That's not how any of this works.

I'm just going to sit back & watch you try to educate this one

good luck

I think this is too much for even me. I just... It's just so wrong it's a beacon of wrongness. A star, greater than the sun, radiating wrongness."

But you're so good at this... Don't tell me you've met your match swing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I’ll be the first to admit I pushed the boundaries but kept my parents safe during the lockdown

Last week they came back from a few days away from down south and also riddled with the virus... and passed it to me as I was staying in their house looking after their dog.

My parents wore masks, sprayed their hands with anti back, sprayed everywhere with dettol and still caught it

I learned the hard way... stay at home!!

Hope you are all doing ok.

Thank you I think we have been lucky not to be very ill xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hope you haven't got work in the morning

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By * Plus ECouple over a year ago

The South

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

You know that the Magistrate is appointed by the Queen (The Crown)? That's why any criminal prosecution is the defendant vs The Crown. HM Queen delegates to others, e.g. magistrates etc.

Ok so what does the defendant do and who is the Crown again???

The Crown is the Monarch.

Give me a laugh - you've not even mentioned Magna Carta yet

If the crown wishes to make an alegation then she must come and give her facts so i can cross examine and question her, like i say been there done that and had the case thrown out"

Have you seen the Big Bang Theory scene where Sheldon goes to court?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"all im saying is yes they can enforce whatthey like in Public, but when it comes to your private property they cannot trespass"

But they can if the delegated authority (the Police) has reasonable grounds to suspect that the law is being broken on private property. If law did not apply on private property, then criminals would just be committing murder and all sorts in private homes (or castles) and getting away with it. The pesky old Crown appoints the most senior Police officers via delegation, yet again, this time to the regional police and crime commissioners. She gets about, does old Liz, and she gets others to do it for her. By scribbling her signature on Acts of Parliament, she enables all sorts to happen on her behalf.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

... So they can come in to enforce the law, then. Which you're not exempt from because it's your land.

Uh huh.

Public and Private do not mix damn right its my property

... That's not how any of this works.

I'm just going to sit back & watch you try to educate this one

good luck

I think this is too much for even me. I just... It's just so wrong it's a beacon of wrongness. A star, greater than the sun, radiating wrongness.

But you're so good at this... Don't tell me you've met your match swing

We need common ground somewhere. I think I understand that if the prosecutors didn't physically see the crime and the Queen herself isn't involved in prosecution then there can be no case. I might as well be speaking Swahili even if I did actually piece together a primer on why this is nonsense on stilts.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

* that is, he believes the Queen must be present etc

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

King Canute..

That's all I'm saying..

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

For anyone following: find this site

Citizens Advice Scotland

Police powers to stop and search, enter private property and seize goods

Subheader: Police powers to enter your home or other private property

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Our rules are.... there are no rules!!!! We both have more years behind us than in front and we intend to enjoy every last minute of the time we have left.

There we go! That's the "fuck everyone else, I'm OK Jack!" mentality that we love, isn't it.

But so long as you are OK and having fun, that is just dandy.

And people wonder why we need mandates and lockdowns.

-Matt

Well we had three Polititians do the very same thing didnt we, oh fuck the minions im a polititian these rules dont apply to me "

so this i can do what i want on your own property.. you can't inflict gbh on your property.. you are not above the law no matter where you are

sometime the law is an ass tho

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

... So they can come in to enforce the law, then. Which you're not exempt from because it's your land.

Uh huh.

Public and Private do not mix damn right its my property

... That's not how any of this works.

I'm just going to sit back & watch you try to educate this one

good luck

I think this is too much for even me. I just... It's just so wrong it's a beacon of wrongness. A star, greater than the sun, radiating wrongness.

But you're so good at this... Don't tell me you've met your match swing

I would love to see that defence be upheld in an actual court

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By *arentsgonebadCouple over a year ago

sheffield

Yawn #boringpost

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Our rules are.... there are no rules!!!! We both have more years behind us than in front and we intend to enjoy every last minute of the time we have left.

There we go! That's the "fuck everyone else, I'm OK Jack!" mentality that we love, isn't it.

But so long as you are OK and having fun, that is just dandy.

And people wonder why we need mandates and lockdowns.

-Matt

Well we had three Polititians do the very same thing didnt we, oh fuck the minions im a polititian these rules dont apply to me "

We have.

The rich and powerful have a way of evading the law in a way you or I cannot.

Is it right? No.

Does it mean the law doesn't apply to you? No.

Are you likely to get a Cummings exemption? I'd bet my life savings on not.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

Police Powers, ok so what does this Police look like?

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

is this Police not just a man or woman in a costume????

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

... So they can come in to enforce the law, then. Which you're not exempt from because it's your land.

Uh huh.

Public and Private do not mix damn right its my property

... That's not how any of this works.

I'm just going to sit back & watch you try to educate this one

good luck

I think this is too much for even me. I just... It's just so wrong it's a beacon of wrongness. A star, greater than the sun, radiating wrongness.

But you're so good at this... Don't tell me you've met your match swing

I would love to see that defence be upheld in an actual court "

I believe a Scottish defendant tried to argue that trial by duel had been legally eliminated in England not Scotland and tried to have his case decided by duel... In... 1985

(brb looking it up)

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

see how they trick you by calling you defendant, noooo the burden of proof is upon the accuser to prove you did a wrong

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"see how they trick you by calling you defendant, noooo the burden of proof is upon the accuser to prove you did a wrong"

Because you have been charged, therefore you have to form a defence..

The burden of proof of is indeed upon the accuser but the defendant is the one that stands accused..

It's very simple..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont understand why having more than one household is breaking the rules.

You can have as many households as you like in England as long as there is no more than 6 of you.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Id like to see this proof that it doesnt work like that

... So they can come in to enforce the law, then. Which you're not exempt from because it's your land.

Uh huh.

Public and Private do not mix damn right its my property

... That's not how any of this works.

I'm just going to sit back & watch you try to educate this one

good luck

I think this is too much for even me. I just... It's just so wrong it's a beacon of wrongness. A star, greater than the sun, radiating wrongness.

But you're so good at this... Don't tell me you've met your match swing

I would love to see that defence be upheld in an actual court

I believe a Scottish defendant tried to argue that trial by duel had been legally eliminated in England not Scotland and tried to have his case decided by duel... In... 1985

(brb looking it up)"

if he got knocked off his horse he was proven guilty?

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"see how they trick you by calling you defendant, noooo the burden of proof is upon the accuser to prove you did a wrong

Because you have been charged, therefore you have to form a defence..

The burden of proof of is indeed upon the accuser but the defendant is the one that stands accused..

It's very simple.."

Charged hmmis that a negative or positive charge, or is it monetary charge???

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Police Powers, ok so what does this Police look like?"

The police are a body organised to maintain public order and use limited powers of force to stop law breaking and apprehend offenders. They are also representatives of the Queen. They largely replace citizen self help in criminal matters and have done for a long time. Wikipedia has a page if you're interested in the history

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"see how they trick you by calling you defendant, noooo the burden of proof is upon the accuser to prove you did a wrong

Because you have been charged, therefore you have to form a defence..

The burden of proof of is indeed upon the accuser but the defendant is the one that stands accused..

It's very simple..

Charged hmmis that a negative or positive charge, or is it monetary charge???"

In your case it's one of talking cobbler's..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No you are not breaking the rules. You can stay overnight to carry out care duties or look after a vulnerable person.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"Police Powers, ok so what does this Police look like?

there you go maintain public order, your home is not Public so thats where their jurisdiction stops at your front gate. Who gave them authority to replace citizen self help and do you know what a citizen is??

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Police Powers, ok so what does this Police look like?

The word "and" after order is important here. I didn't say or, and I didn't put those words there for no reason.

I do indeed know what a citizen is. Do you?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"is this Police not just a man or woman in a costume???? "

They are a human being who has been ordained by the Chief Constable of a geographic area, as being suitably trained and qualified to be an officer of the law. The Chief Constable is appointed by, guess who (through delegated powers)?! They don't have to wear a costume or uniform, they can be in ordinary "plain" clothes, as you well know. However, for the purposes of easy identification, most do wear an identifiable uniform. Remember, it's an offence to impersonate a Police officer

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,"

Of course what you do in your home is the business of the police if your breaking the law by that logic you could commit any criminal offence as long as you in your own home.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

oh i do know what a citizen is, but you go first,

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

Of course what you do in your home is the business of the police if your breaking the law by that logic you could commit any criminal offence as long as you in your own home."

Show me where it is the business of a PUBLIC SERVANT what you do in your own home

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"oh i do know what a citizen is, but you go first, "

Oh no, I'm sure your answer will be far more entertaining, seeing as you think the police are a non real entity, that prosecution must be eyewitnesses, that the Queen is responsible for your mortgage, that calling someone a defendant is misleading, and the Queen herself must prosecute you

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

Of course what you do in your home is the business of the police if your breaking the law by that logic you could commit any criminal offence as long as you in your own home.

Show me where it is the business of a PUBLIC SERVANT what you do in your own home"

See the Citizens Advice page above

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

no do go on im intrigued as to what you think a citizen is

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman over a year ago

The place where fairies live

I hope she gets better quickly. Keep her chest nice and clear xx

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"no do go on im intrigued as to what you think a citizen is"

Well, you see, I'm far more interested in your convoluted fantasy. So it's unfortunate that I'm not going to provide this boring fact for you.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"oh i do know what a citizen is, but you go first,

*Makes note to change addresses with mortgage company to Buckingham Palace, The Mall, London*

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

I hope she gets better quickly. Keep her chest nice and clear xx"

This is good advice

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"oh i do know what a citizen is, but you go first,

*Makes note to change addresses with mortgage company to Buckingham Palace, The Mall, London*

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman over a year ago

The place where fairies live

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,"

Absolute rubbish!!

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS over a year ago

paisley

"is this Police not just a man or woman in a costume????

Glad you mentioned that, so its a man or a womanin a uniform, a man or woman just like any other man or woman, who if they trespass on anothor mans property is liable. Now you say they are suitably trained and qualified to be an officer of the law, nexttime they stop you and tell you have breached this law or that law, just ask them to show their legal qualifications, and speaking of impersonating an officer is a criminal offence, so is impersonating a solicitor which is what every police officer does day in day out.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

Of course what you do in your home is the business of the police if your breaking the law by that logic you could commit any criminal offence as long as you in your own home.

Show me where it is the business of a PUBLIC SERVANT what you do in your own home"

Fire service act 2004, Scotland will have its own devolved one but essentially powers of entry are the same..

So eg. You are in your home and setting fire to your own possessions, not coal or logs in your burner before you ramble off on a tangent..

Concerns are raised by family, neighbours etc and the brigade attend they have the power to force entry should you not engage or refuse to open your property..

And you will in all likelihood be responsible to for any damages caused in their having to do so..

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman over a year ago

The place where fairies live

"I can't even

It makes a change to have someone ranting different things than anti covid

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"oh i do know what a citizen is, but you go first,

*Makes note to change addresses with mortgage company to Buckingham Palace, The Mall, London*

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By *nigmatic_AngelWoman over a year ago

The place where fairies live

"is this Police not just a man or woman in a costume????

. Thank you so much.. I've really enjoyed this little rant of yours and the crap you're spouting is such fun. Honestly.. You've made me go to bed with a smile on my face. X

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"is this Police not just a man or woman in a costume????

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"is this Police not just a man or woman in a costume????

. Thank you so much.. I've really enjoyed this little rant of yours and the crap you're spouting is such fun. Honestly.. You've made me go to bed with a smile on my face. X"

This is bloody entertaining

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"is this Police not just a man or woman in a costume????

How many citizens arrests have you done to protect your fellow citizens in that case?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"is this Police not just a man or woman in a costume????

Are you one of those Freeman of the land nutters?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"is this Police not just a man or woman in a costume????

... You think they haven't worked out how to give police the legal powers to do their jobs?

That's... umm.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"is this Police not just a man or woman in a costume????

Are you one of those Freeman of the land nutters?"

I'm thinking Sovereign Citizen.

Some overlap.

Both get laughed at in court.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

Ooooo ooooo, let's try "citizen" just because this is fun. From the dictionary:

CITIZEN

noun

1) a native or naturalized member of a state or nation who owes allegiance to its government and is entitled to its protection (distinguished from alien).

2) an inhabitant of a city or town, especially one entitled to its privileges or franchises.

an inhabitant, or denizen:

The deer is a citizen of our woods.

3) a civilian, as distinguished from a soldier, police officer, etc.

Our survey says..............

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By *assy LassieWoman over a year ago

Lanarkshire

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

Of course what you do in your home is the business of the police if your breaking the law by that logic you could commit any criminal offence as long as you in your own home.

Show me where it is the business of a PUBLIC SERVANT what you do in your own home"

Ffs how many bottles of Bucky have you had tonight ya total warmer

*translation.-- for fuck sake how many bottles of buckfast tonic wine(popular in scotland with idiots) have you drank tonight you total idiot

Total bullshit on the Scots law.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

And from Parliament.uk

"Parliament passed the County and Borough Police Act in 1856 which made policing compulsory throughout England and Wales and made provision for Treasury assistance to local authorities.

The Act also established a central inspectorate of constabulary to report regularly to the Home Secretary on the efficiency of each police force. A parallel Act for Scotland was passed in 1857."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not breaking the rules to provide care to a vulnerable/ill/disabled person. It's one of the few exceptions to the rules."

Think this was clearly spelt out as an exception as you rightly say.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"What we do in our own private homes is nothing to do with Government or the Police.

My home my castle MY rules, any copper wishes to set foot on my private property to enforce those rules of public servants, face the rather of me,just like they do when I break the rules in public.

WE ARE ALL EQUAL AT LAW,

Of course what you do in your home is the business of the police if your breaking the law by that logic you could commit any criminal offence as long as you in your own home.

Show me where it is the business of a PUBLIC SERVANT what you do in your own home

Ffs how many bottles of Bucky have you had tonight ya total warmer

*translation.-- for fuck sake how many bottles of buckfast tonic wine(popular in scotland with idiots) have you drank tonight you total idiot

Total bullshit on the Scots law. "

Thought so.

It's just not how any society can function

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By *ornyhappyCouple over a year ago

perth

Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

I for one, as a possible citizen of England (via Wales) that Nicky S has used her delegated powers to stop us, the great unwashed plague bearers, from traipsing into the land of the thistle. It sounds awful lawless up there - no laws apply on private property. Crumbs! Anything could happen

I'll stick with tier 3

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By *ed VoluptaWoman over a year ago

Wirral.

"is this Police not just a man or woman in a costume????

Are you one of those Freeman of the land nutters?"

Nope, I think he's just a total fantasist

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

I for one, as a possible citizen of England (via Wales) *that Nicky S has used her delegated powers to stop us, the great unwashed plague bearers, from traipsing into the land of the thistle. It sounds awful lawless up there - no laws apply on private property. Crumbs! Anything could happen

I'll stick with tier 3

Urgh. I for one *AM GRATEFUL THAT....

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

I'll stick with tier 3

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

Has been fun to do too. And I learned about Scots law

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By *ornyhappyCouple over a year ago

perth

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

I'll stick with tier 3

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

I started reading the posts and was chuckling, then as I read more it changed from chuckling to being quite saddened that there are people at large in the community who actually function on this level.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

I'll stick with tier 3

I'll just take my chances in Moss Side. Much safer

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

I'll stick with tier 3

I'll just take my chances in Moss Side. Much safer

Omg

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By *ornyhappyCouple over a year ago

perth

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

Has been fun to do too. And I learned about Scots law

Is that the law that applies to all citizens? or the one where you are exempt if you live in a castle?

Oh, & can you just confirm what a citizen is for me, please?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

I'll stick with tier 3

I'll just take my chances in Moss Side. Much safer

Omg

I'm reasonably confident that something I understand to be the law applies there and perhaps marginally less confident that a person in a special costume would come to my aid if someone broke the aforementioned laws. I'm also convinced these laws apply in private houses. And castles (although I'm not aware of any of the latter in Moss Side)

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

Has been fun to do too. And I learned about Scots law

Is that the law that applies to all citizens? or the one where you are exempt if you live in a castle?

Oh, & can you just confirm what a citizen is for me, please?

People in castles may have enough money to get good lawyers, but the law still applies to them even if they can wiggle out of it

A citizen is a person who is legally a member of a particular state. What that implies varies from country to country, but at its base level it's an immigration status.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

I'll stick with tier 3

I'll just take my chances in Moss Side. Much safer

Omg

True

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

I wonder if pulling up the draw bridge will stop them crossing the moat to gain entry

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I wonder if pulling up the draw bridge will stop them crossing the moat to gain entry

They could pole vault over the walls or use a trebuchet to launch agents into your cloisters

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

If you don't laugh you'll cry.

Laughter is good for you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well this has proven to be a quite amusing read!

I don't know about you but my head hurts now

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"I wonder if pulling up the draw bridge will stop them crossing the moat to gain entry

They could pole vault over the walls or use a trebuchet to launch agents into your cloisters

They could but unless our Vicky is with them they're trespassing

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I wonder if pulling up the draw bridge will stop them crossing the moat to gain entry

They could pole vault over the walls or use a trebuchet to launch agents into your cloisters

They could but unless our Vicky is with them they're trespassing

Will she be in her costume

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I wonder if pulling up the draw bridge will stop them crossing the moat to gain entry

They could pole vault over the walls or use a trebuchet to launch agents into your cloisters

They could but unless our Vicky is with them they're trespassing

Don't start that again

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By *obbo2976Man over a year ago

Cinderford

Well tell you the truth if its work places then I wont go to Heathrow in my lorry anymore and collect masks for the nhs or surgical gowns and take deliver them to wales anymore that way I wont spread the virus

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"I wonder if pulling up the draw bridge will stop them crossing the moat to gain entry

They could pole vault over the walls or use a trebuchet to launch agents into your cloisters

They could but unless our Vicky is with them they're trespassing

Don't start that again

sorry

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"I wonder if pulling up the draw bridge will stop them crossing the moat to gain entry

They could pole vault over the walls or use a trebuchet to launch agents into your cloisters

They could but unless our Vicky is with them they're trespassing

Will she be in her costume

I hope so!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"I wonder if pulling up the draw bridge will stop them crossing the moat to gain entry

They could pole vault over the walls or use a trebuchet to launch agents into your cloisters

They could but unless our Vicky is with them they're trespassing

Don't start that again

sorry

Awwwww I want HM to have to trek to every single custody suite, the length and breadth of the land, to read out charges to people and she can do that battering ram thingy on drugs raids and tell people off for having gatherings and all sorts. A little 5ft woman in her 90s with a massive crown on. It'd be excellent

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By *eneral HysteriaMan over a year ago

Newcastle

The whole "This is my castle, who is UK, what UK law" stuff is hilarious.

Seriously, there should be a comedy forum.

This op was well an' truly 'jacked!

Thank you for the laughs!

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"I wonder if pulling up the draw bridge will stop them crossing the moat to gain entry

They could pole vault over the walls or use a trebuchet to launch agents into your cloisters

They could but unless our Vicky is with them they're trespassing

Don't start that again

sorry

I'm howling

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