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"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?" You can...no one is stopping you | |||
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"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?" You can if you want lol. | |||
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"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?" I tend to keep mine on all the time, whilst shopping  | |||
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"So many great ways to wear them too! Just under the nose is very popular but below the chin seems to be the most stylish. "Unfortunately yes.... | |||
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"So many great ways to wear them too! Just under the nose is very popular but below the chin seems to be the most stylish. "Why bother! If it’s under either nose or chin it’s just a waste of time.  | |||
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"I wear one in shops and in other places But when am in my own or outside it’s not worn Don’t see the point in wearing one in a car while your driving alone It’s not to protect others it’s to protect me " Masks are as much about protecting others as yourself. I wouldn't wear in a car alone, but if I'm outside my apartment complex my mask is on. | |||
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"I wear one in shops and in other places But when am in my own or outside it’s not worn Don’t see the point in wearing one in a car while your driving alone It’s not to protect others it’s to protect me " Yes mine comes off when I'm back in the car, I do wonder how long it will be before we have to wear them as soon as we leave the house... | |||
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"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well? You can...no one is stopping you " My thoughts exactly. | |||
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"So many great ways to wear them too! Just under the nose is very popular but below the chin seems to be the most stylish.
Why bother! If it’s under either nose or chin it’s just a waste of time. "They think they are making a statement? | |||
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"So many great ways to wear them too! Just under the nose is very popular but below the chin seems to be the most stylish.
Why bother! If it’s under either nose or chin it’s just a waste of time.
They think they are making a statement?"The only time I see people wearing masks under their chin is when they are outside. It could be said to be better than to keep putting masks back into their pockets or handbags. | |||
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"So many great ways to wear them too! Just under the nose is very popular but below the chin seems to be the most stylish.
Why bother! If it’s under either nose or chin it’s just a waste of time.
They think they are making a statement?"I think some think that you don't spread germs through your nose or something. And this must be true because mask over mouth and nose feels icky. | |||
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"I wear one in shops and in other places But when am in my own or outside it’s not worn Don’t see the point in wearing one in a car while your driving alone It’s not to protect others it’s to protect me " If you want a mask to offer some protection to yourself, then wear an N95 mask. Anything else is just virtue signalling. | |||
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"So many great ways to wear them too! Just under the nose is very popular but below the chin seems to be the most stylish.
Why bother! If it’s under either nose or chin it’s just a waste of time.
They think they are making a statement?
The only time I see people wearing masks under their chin is when they are outside. It could be said to be better than to keep putting masks back into their pockets or handbags."Yes | |||
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"I wear one in shops and in other places But when am in my own or outside it’s not worn Don’t see the point in wearing one in a car while your driving alone It’s not to protect others it’s to protect me If you want a mask to offer some protection to yourself, then wear an N95 mask. Anything else is just virtue signalling. " I use a N99 far better protection  | |||
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"So many great ways to wear them too! Just under the nose is very popular but below the chin seems to be the most stylish.
Why bother! If it’s under either nose or chin it’s just a waste of time.
They think they are making a statement?"Think he had a sense of Humour by-pass, everyone else saw the joke.  | |||
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"I wear one in shops and in other places But when am in my own or outside it’s not worn Don’t see the point in wearing one in a car while your driving alone It’s not to protect others it’s to protect me If you want a mask to offer some protection to yourself, then wear an N95 mask. Anything else is just virtue signalling. " Fluid resistant 3 ply surgical masks do offer some protection hence NHS staff in all non covid wards wear them. Not as much protection given but they offer some along side social distancing | |||
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"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well? You can...no one is stopping you " I really feel like giving up trying to understand how some people's thought process must work  | |||
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"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well? You can...no one is stopping you I really feel like giving up trying to understand how some people's thought process must work "In some places (not UK) mask mandates are outdoors as well. There's reasons why we might not do this, but for myself I don't see the harm in leaving it on. It's still a form of protection. | |||
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"Been wearing one since March but I’m finding it quite strange how infection cases are rising now there’s more people wearing them out and about, Wales were quite low on cases before they brought in the wear them in shops rule for them, same happening in Spain, maybe it’s the touching face more?? " That's why it's best to leave them in place when going from one shop to another. The least hand contact with the mask the better. | |||
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"If you want a mask to offer some protection to yourself, then wear an N95 mask. Anything else is just virtue signalling. " Actually, Clem, wearing any sort of face covering - particularly ones that have either 2 or 3 layers of cloth - will significantly reduce the viral load if you were to catch anything. They can also help prevent you catching anything when used in conjunction with other measures. There's plenty of science backing that up as well, if you don't choose to ignore it. | |||
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"Been wearing one since March but I’m finding it quite strange how infection cases are rising now there’s more people wearing them out and about, Wales were quite low on cases before they brought in the wear them in shops rule for them, same happening in Spain, maybe it’s the touching face more?? " In the UK, schools and universities. Behaviour in private homes will also be a driver, and generally the fact that more people are mixing. | |||
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"I do find it amazing with some of the comments.....are we so vain that we can't respect others safety for the wearing of a mask?? This is a worldwide problem which, I think, individually we all need to but into it and stop being so selfish " You must be reading something different to me , we are all in favour of the masks, on here... | |||
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i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too  | |||
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"When I'm walking between the train and bus, I keep mine on. If I'm headed to the shops I usually keep it on until I'm done visiting shops. When I'm going for a walk in the fields behind my home, I don't wear one as I'm highly unlikely to come across humans and when I do we can easily keep distance." Yup exactly the same here | |||
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"So many great ways to wear them too! Just under the nose is very popular but below the chin seems to be the most stylish.
Why bother! If it’s under either nose or chin it’s just a waste of time. "But it makes you look either... Uber Cool Dead Hard Dickhead You choose.... | |||
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"When I'm walking between the train and bus, I keep mine on. If I'm headed to the shops I usually keep it on until I'm done visiting shops. When I'm going for a walk in the fields behind my home, I don't wear one as I'm highly unlikely to come across humans and when I do we can easily keep distance." thats it son...you make sure you stay clear of humans | |||
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"Did anyone notice the face masks the audience was wearing on strictly last night ? I'd love one "I dont watch it | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too "I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil "nope just lots of common sense | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil
nope just lots of common sense "Doesn't sound like it to me...but you crack on | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil
nope just lots of common sense
Doesn't sound like it to me...but you crack on "mask increase mandatory use = cases still going up.....how clear do you want it. The govt scientists themselves were adamant before masks were useless but you crack on | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too "The latter does.. My sister has it and is pretty likely to lose her job due to it, there's cases documented countrywide.. The medical professionals are still catching up with many aspects of it, what qualifications do you hold to make your claim? | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil
nope just lots of common sense
Doesn't sound like it to me...but you crack on
mask increase mandatory use = cases still going up.....how clear do you want it. The govt scientists themselves were adamant before masks were useless but you crack on"Science always evolves...unlike some who dont look deeper into why it's going up..schools and universities for one instance weren't open when we were not wearing masks...but let's blame it on the masks eh | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
The latter does..
My sister has it and is pretty likely to lose her job due to it, there's cases documented countrywide..
The medical professionals are still catching up with many aspects of it, what qualifications do you hold to make your claim?"He claims to have a NVQ in common sense  | |||
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"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?" You mean in the same way that motorcyclists have to wear their crash helmets even when they're not riding their motorcycles. | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
The latter does..
My sister has it and is pretty likely to lose her job due to it, there's cases documented countrywide..
The medical professionals are still catching up with many aspects of it, what qualifications do you hold to make your claim?
He claims to have a NVQ in common sense "no common sense cannot be taught...so no NVQ.....perhaps you can kindly explain why we have not locked down over normal flu to protect the elderly/vulnerable in the past...again common sense is needed here | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil
nope just lots of common sense
Doesn't sound like it to me...but you crack on
mask increase mandatory use = cases still going up.....how clear do you want it. The govt scientists themselves were adamant before masks were useless but you crack on
Science always evolves...unlike some who dont look deeper into why it's going up..schools and universities for one instance weren't open when we were not wearing masks...but let's blame it on the masks eh "oh blame schools and universities ahahah...is this because the media told you so? or did you discover this on your "deeper" research...perhaps you can also explain why no school kid or uni student has been hospitalised or passed away due to covid-19?? it is a deadly disease after all | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil
nope just lots of common sense
Doesn't sound like it to me...but you crack on
mask increase mandatory use = cases still going up.....how clear do you want it. The govt scientists themselves were adamant before masks were useless but you crack on
Science always evolves...unlike some who dont look deeper into why it's going up..schools and universities for one instance weren't open when we were not wearing masks...but let's blame it on the masks eh
oh blame schools and universities ahahah...is this because the media told you so? or did you discover this on your "deeper" research...perhaps you can also explain why no school kid or uni student has been hospitalised or passed away due to covid-19?? it is a deadly disease after all "I’ve read that there are university students in some icu wards with the virus. | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil
nope just lots of common sense
Doesn't sound like it to me...but you crack on
mask increase mandatory use = cases still going up.....how clear do you want it. The govt scientists themselves were adamant before masks were useless but you crack on
Science always evolves...unlike some who dont look deeper into why it's going up..schools and universities for one instance weren't open when we were not wearing masks...but let's blame it on the masks eh
oh blame schools and universities ahahah...is this because the media told you so? or did you discover this on your "deeper" research...perhaps you can also explain why no school kid or uni student has been hospitalised or passed away due to covid-19?? it is a deadly disease after all
I’ve read that there are university students in some icu wards with the virus."In March a 13 year old in the UK died of Covid. And saying that it's *spread* through schools/ universities doesn't mean that that's where the fatalities are. | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil
nope just lots of common sense
Doesn't sound like it to me...but you crack on
mask increase mandatory use = cases still going up.....how clear do you want it. The govt scientists themselves were adamant before masks were useless but you crack on
Science always evolves...unlike some who dont look deeper into why it's going up..schools and universities for one instance weren't open when we were not wearing masks...but let's blame it on the masks eh
oh blame schools and universities ahahah...is this because the media told you so? or did you discover this on your "deeper" research...perhaps you can also explain why no school kid or uni student has been hospitalised or passed away due to covid-19?? it is a deadly disease after all
I’ve read that there are university students in some icu wards with the virus.
In March a 13 year old in the UK died of Covid.
And saying that it's *spread* through schools/ universities doesn't mean that that's where the fatalities are. "dieing of covid is very different to dieig with covid. anyone who tests and dies with 28 days gets counted. If its so deadly why would you need to inflate the deaths with people who may have tested oositive but died of cancer or a car accident...you cannot surely try to explain this one. | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil
nope just lots of common sense
Doesn't sound like it to me...but you crack on
mask increase mandatory use = cases still going up.....how clear do you want it. The govt scientists themselves were adamant before masks were useless but you crack on
Science always evolves...unlike some who dont look deeper into why it's going up..schools and universities for one instance weren't open when we were not wearing masks...but let's blame it on the masks eh
oh blame schools and universities ahahah...is this because the media told you so? or did you discover this on your "deeper" research...perhaps you can also explain why no school kid or uni student has been hospitalised or passed away due to covid-19?? it is a deadly disease after all
I’ve read that there are university students in some icu wards with the virus.
In March a 13 year old in the UK died of Covid.
And saying that it's *spread* through schools/ universities doesn't mean that that's where the fatalities are.
dieing of covid is very different to dieig with covid. anyone who tests and dies with 28 days gets counted. If its so deadly why would you need to inflate the deaths with people who may have tested oositive but died of cancer or a car accident...you cannot surely try to explain this one. "Sure I can. It's bullshit. Hope that helps | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil
nope just lots of common sense
Doesn't sound like it to me...but you crack on
mask increase mandatory use = cases still going up.....how clear do you want it. The govt scientists themselves were adamant before masks were useless but you crack on
Science always evolves...unlike some who dont look deeper into why it's going up..schools and universities for one instance weren't open when we were not wearing masks...but let's blame it on the masks eh
oh blame schools and universities ahahah...is this because the media told you so? or did you discover this on your "deeper" research...perhaps you can also explain why no school kid or uni student has been hospitalised or passed away due to covid-19?? it is a deadly disease after all
I’ve read that there are university students in some icu wards with the virus.
In March a 13 year old in the UK died of Covid.
And saying that it's *spread* through schools/ universities doesn't mean that that's where the fatalities are.
dieing of covid is very different to dieig with covid. anyone who tests and dies with 28 days gets counted. If its so deadly why would you need to inflate the deaths with people who may have tested oositive but died of cancer or a car accident...you cannot surely try to explain this one.
Sure I can. It's bullshit. Hope that helps "What is bullshit lol | |||
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"Did anyone notice the face masks the audience was wearing on strictly last night ? I'd love one
I dont watch it "  | |||
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"Dying "with" Covid is a lie. The car accident thing isn't happening. People are suffering Covid related strokes or drowning in their fluids etc. But some people are determined to deny that this is a crisis. And it doesn't explain what I said about transmission through schools or universities. But I'm sure I'm wasting my breath." they explicitly state it in their charts and data...28days of a test regardless of the cause of death inline with the rest of the UK..used to be if you "ever" tested positive in england when we had record numbers of deaths (to scare you) | |||
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"Dying "with" Covid is a lie. The car accident thing isn't happening. People are suffering Covid related strokes or drowning in their fluids etc. But some people are determined to deny that this is a crisis. And it doesn't explain what I said about transmission through schools or universities. But I'm sure I'm wasting my breath. they explicitly state it in their charts and data...28days of a test regardless of the cause of death inline with the rest of the UK..used to be if you "ever" tested positive in england when we had record numbers of deaths (to scare you)" I'm aware of the criteria, thank you. | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil
nope just lots of common sense
Doesn't sound like it to me...but you crack on
mask increase mandatory use = cases still going up.....how clear do you want it. The govt scientists themselves were adamant before masks were useless but you crack on
Science always evolves...unlike some who dont look deeper into why it's going up..schools and universities for one instance weren't open when we were not wearing masks...but let's blame it on the masks eh
oh blame schools and universities ahahah...is this because the media told you so? or did you discover this on your "deeper" research...perhaps you can also explain why no school kid or uni student has been hospitalised or passed away due to covid-19?? it is a deadly disease after all
I’ve read that there are university students in some icu wards with the virus.
In March a 13 year old in the UK died of Covid.
And saying that it's *spread* through schools/ universities doesn't mean that that's where the fatalities are.
dieing of covid is very different to dieig with covid. anyone who tests and dies with 28 days gets counted. If its so deadly why would you need to inflate the deaths with people who may have tested oositive but died of cancer or a car accident...you cannot surely try to explain this one. "The explanation is your talking bollocks you've read on some conspiracy site in all likelihood.. Care to explain as you appear to be ducking the question as to how you know as you claim that long covid does not exist? | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
I bet you have a good supply of bacofoil
nope just lots of common sense
Doesn't sound like it to me...but you crack on
mask increase mandatory use = cases still going up.....how clear do you want it. The govt scientists themselves were adamant before masks were useless but you crack on
Science always evolves...unlike some who dont look deeper into why it's going up..schools and universities for one instance weren't open when we were not wearing masks...but let's blame it on the masks eh
oh blame schools and universities ahahah...is this because the media told you so? or did you discover this on your "deeper" research...perhaps you can also explain why no school kid or uni student has been hospitalised or passed away due to covid-19?? it is a deadly disease after all
I’ve read that there are university students in some icu wards with the virus.
In March a 13 year old in the UK died of Covid.
And saying that it's *spread* through schools/ universities doesn't mean that that's where the fatalities are.
dieing of covid is very different to dieig with covid. anyone who tests and dies with 28 days gets counted. If its so deadly why would you need to inflate the deaths with people who may have tested oositive but died of cancer or a car accident...you cannot surely try to explain this one.
The explanation is your talking bollocks you've read on some conspiracy site in all likelihood..
Care to explain as you appear to be ducking the question as to how you know as you claim that long covid does not exist?"And the question about transmission not death through educational settings. | |||
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"Dying "with" Covid is a lie. The car accident thing isn't happening. People are suffering Covid related strokes or drowning in their fluids etc. But some people are determined to deny that this is a crisis. And it doesn't explain what I said about transmission through schools or universities. But I'm sure I'm wasting my breath." I've give up on him too...can look elsewhere for his food. | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too "Given that two friends currently have long covid, yes I fucking do. Masks are no magic bullet. But they help a lot. | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
Given that two friends currently have long covid, yes I fucking do.
Masks are no magic bullet. But they help a lot."Imagine believing that covering your mouth and nose reduces respiratory droplets. How illogical  | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
Given that two friends currently have long covid, yes I fucking do.
Masks are no magic bullet. But they help a lot.
Imagine believing that covering your mouth and nose reduces respiratory droplets. How illogical "I know, right? I'm Imagine trusting Karen on YouTube over people who devote their lives to the study of viruses too. | |||
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"wow you still believe in masks despite cases going up around the world
i suppose you mask lovers also believe that "long covid" exists too
Given that two friends currently have long covid, yes I fucking do.
Masks are no magic bullet. But they help a lot.
Imagine believing that covering your mouth and nose reduces respiratory droplets. How illogical
I know, right? I'm
Imagine trusting Karen on YouTube over people who devote their lives to the study of viruses too. " | |||
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"Been wearing one since March but I’m finding it quite strange how infection cases are rising now there’s more people wearing them out and about, Wales were quite low on cases before they brought in the wear them in shops rule for them, same happening in Spain, maybe it’s the touching face more?? " More people mixing in close environments with not enough people using face masks. | |||
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"Went out shopping today and never realised how many poor people especially young girls in the 15 to 25 year old band suffering from underlying health conditions that prevent them from waring a face mask. Fucking broke my heart it did "Yep it does seem a thing that age group wherever I go too...bless em | |||
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"Went out shopping today and never realised how many poor people especially young girls in the 15 to 25 year old band suffering from underlying health conditions that prevent them from waring a face mask. Fucking broke my heart it did "I’ve noticed it’s mainly older people who don’t wear them. Or wear them incorrectly. | |||
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"Went out shopping today and never realised how many poor people especially young girls in the 15 to 25 year old band suffering from underlying health conditions that prevent them from waring a face mask. Fucking broke my heart it did
I’ve noticed it’s mainly older people who don’t wear them. Or wear them incorrectly."Must say my experience has been the opposite that the 60+ seem to be the demograph that complies the most. Shows how areas can differ so much. | |||
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"Went out shopping today and never realised how many poor people especially young girls in the 15 to 25 year old band suffering from underlying health conditions that prevent them from waring a face mask. Fucking broke my heart it did
I’ve noticed it’s mainly older people who don’t wear them. Or wear them incorrectly.
Must say my experience has been the opposite that the 60+ seem to be the demograph that complies the most.
Shows how areas can differ so much. "Same here | |||
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"Dying "with" Covid is a lie. The car accident thing isn't happening. People are suffering Covid related strokes or drowning in their fluids etc. But some people are determined to deny that this is a crisis. And it doesn't explain what I said about transmission through schools or universities. But I'm sure I'm wasting my breath. they explicitly state it in their charts and data...28days of a test regardless of the cause of death inline with the rest of the UK..used to be if you "ever" tested positive in england when we had record numbers of deaths (to scare you)" Sorry I don't believe you because you have no evidence. I do however beleive in idiots because there is plenty of evidence of their existence | |||
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" It’s not to protect others it’s to protect me " In reality that doesn’t work. The figures suggest that wearing a face mask reduced the chance of you passing the virus to others if you have it by 95% but it offers very little protection to the person wearing it. They are like trousers. If someone with no trousers pees in front of you and you have no trousers you will get wet. If you wear trousers then the trousers will soak some pee up but you get pee on your legs. If the other person wears trousers, the pee is trapped in their trousers and runs down their legs but you stay dry. | |||
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"I've mar my feelings clear on face coverings before, one thing to add though is there is one rule in particular that I find especially nonsensical and actually very dangerous. This is the rule that if in a bar, restaurant or pub you must wear one at all times unless seated with a meal or drink. I think this could potentially cause more infections than it stops for.the simple reason it forces people to touch their faces more after coming into contact with more surfaces. Think about it. You enter a pub wearing one (fine). Sign into Track and Trace with your phone or pen and paper. Shown to your seat, order a drink. Remove face covering. At some point you need to visit the toilet. This means you now need to put the face covering on. By this point you have touched: the door handle to enter the pub, your phone or pen and paper, the chair, the table, the pint glasses (And that's at a minimum) and now you are required to touch your face. This process will be repeated when you leave the pub or at any point you need to revisit the toilet, go for a cigarette and when it comes time to leave. To me this makes little sense and is petty beauracracy over common sense. It becomes more farcical when as some establishments have to follow this rule to the letter. If there people are sitting at a table but only two have a drink or meal in front of them the third is required to wear their face covering... so they order a glass of tap water and all of a sudden the third person can remove it "Not sure how you put your face mask on, but I don’t touch my face when I put mine on. Plus I regularly use hand sanitiser or soap | |||
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"So many great ways to wear them too! Just under the nose is very popular but below the chin seems to be the most stylish. " | |||
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"I've mar my feelings clear on face coverings before, one thing to add though is there is one rule in particular that I find especially nonsensical and actually very dangerous. This is the rule that if in a bar, restaurant or pub you must wear one at all times unless seated with a meal or drink. I think this could potentially cause more infections than it stops for.the simple reason it forces people to touch their faces more after coming into contact with more surfaces. Think about it. You enter a pub wearing one (fine). Sign into Track and Trace with your phone or pen and paper. Shown to your seat, order a drink. Remove face covering. At some point you need to visit the toilet. This means you now need to put the face covering on. By this point you have touched: the door handle to enter the pub, your phone or pen and paper, the chair, the table, the pint glasses (And that's at a minimum) and now you are required to touch your face. This process will be repeated when you leave the pub or at any point you need to revisit the toilet, go for a cigarette and when it comes time to leave. To me this makes little sense and is petty beauracracy over common sense. It becomes more farcical when as some establishments have to follow this rule to the letter. If there people are sitting at a table but only two have a drink or meal in front of them the third is required to wear their face covering... so they order a glass of tap water and all of a sudden the third person can remove it "I dont drink thank god so I dont witness this bizarre behaviour you speak of. | |||
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"only mask i wear is a 3m FFP3 RD or up, all else are worthless! 3M 6300 even better " Don't forget to cover your eyes, it's soo easy for the virus to enter that way. | |||
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"Personally I don’t believe masks do anything to stop the spread of Covid but still wear one while in shops etc just to be polite ... the plus side tho is it does seem to be stopping the spread of good old fashioned colds.. I ain’t had one at all so far this year "If it prevents spread of cold and flu.... Why wouldn't it prevent spread of covid? | |||
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"Personally I don’t believe masks do anything to stop the spread of Covid but still wear one while in shops etc just to be polite ... the plus side tho is it does seem to be stopping the spread of good old fashioned colds.. I ain’t had one at all so far this year
If it prevents spread of cold and flu.... Why wouldn't it prevent spread of covid?"Reckon it’s more down to the social distancing and people cleaning their hands | |||
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"Dying "with" Covid is a lie. The car accident thing isn't happening. People are suffering Covid related strokes or drowning in their fluids etc. But some people are determined to deny that this is a crisis. And it doesn't explain what I said about transmission through schools or universities. But I'm sure I'm wasting my breath. they explicitly state it in their charts and data...28days of a test regardless of the cause of death inline with the rest of the UK..used to be if you "ever" tested positive in england when we had record numbers of deaths (to scare you) Sorry I don't believe you because you have no evidence. I do however beleive in idiots because there is plenty of evidence of their existence" | |||
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"I copied this straight from last month's Lancet!!! It's long but worth a read for those so staunch on either side. Systematic reviews of facemask use suggest relative risk (RR) reductions for infection ranging from 6–80%, including for betacoronavirus infection (eg, COVID-19, SARS, MERS). This inconsistency might be a result of different inclusion and exclusion criteria of the type of studies; the type of included population—eg, health-care workers or the general public; possibly the type of facemask used; the outcomes considered, including laboratory-confirmed virus versus symptoms alone, as well as undesirable consequences; and the setting—eg, epidemic versus non epidemic scenarios. For COVID-19, this evidence is of low or very low certainty because it is derived from observational studies with important risk of various biases, or indirect evidence from randomised studies of other (non-betacorona) respiratory viruses with methodological limitations. Despite the uncertainty, the range of possible RR reduction must be considered in the context of the local epidemiology and be translated into absolute risk reductions. In Norway, for example, it was estimated that 200?000 people would need to wear facemasks to prevent one new infection per week. They assumed a 40% RR reduction with the use of surgical masks. This large number needed to prevent is due to the low prevalence or baseline risk for infection. From a population perspective, one can argue that wearing a facemask would neither be worth the public's money nor outweigh any potential harms, and the decision to wear a facemask be left to the individual, depending on the values they place on the outcomes. Yet, in a setting with high baseline risks, such as a health-care workers caring for a superspreading patient with COVID-19, wearing a mask (applying the same relative effect as above) prevents the infection in up to one out of two health-care workers, and a strong recommendation that all such individuals should wear a facemask might be warranted, despite uncertainty in the evidence. The reason for this stark contrast is the context and baseline risk, not a difference in the relative effect facemasks provide. It is not yet clear where the exact threshold is for the baseline risk that justifies using facemasks in the community (or mandating them), but given the paucity of evidence for severe adverse effects that more invasive interventions have, wearing a facemask might be acceptable in many situations, despite the need for more evidence." As you can see even with a risk reduction assumed at 40% (which most experts I've listened to say is on the high side) You get 1 case reduction per week from 200k wearing it or 5 cases per million or based on the population 25 cases reduction per week, but unfortunately there current infection rates are 1400 per week so in reality not much, but some would say better a little than none and others would say in the grand scheme and weighing in costs meh | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected "Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either "Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period. "Not if they have the common cold
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
Not if they have the common cold
Is sneezing a symptom of covid ?"I would go to the government website on symptoms and isolation of I were you. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period. "I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it.. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
Not if they have the common cold
Is sneezing a symptom of covid ?
I would go to the government website on symptoms and isolation of I were you."I'd far rather ask the opinion of qualified fab experts than trust the government. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it.."Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do. I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it.."Maybe hay fever is a communicable disease nowadays. Every day is a school day lol | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Maybe hay fever is a communicable disease nowadays. Every day is a school day lol"Lol there's not much hay around in October dear | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Maybe hay fever is a communicable disease nowadays. Every day is a school day lol
Lol there's not much hay around in October dear "Can't remember say there was hunni | |||
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"I copied this straight from last month's Lancet!!! It's long but worth a read for those so staunch on either side. Systematic reviews of facemask use suggest relative risk (RR) reductions for infection ranging from 6–80%, including for betacoronavirus infection (eg, COVID-19, SARS, MERS). This inconsistency might be a result of different inclusion and exclusion criteria of the type of studies; the type of included population—eg, health-care workers or the general public; possibly the type of facemask used; the outcomes considered, including laboratory-confirmed virus versus symptoms alone, as well as undesirable consequences; and the setting—eg, epidemic versus non epidemic scenarios. For COVID-19, this evidence is of low or very low certainty because it is derived from observational studies with important risk of various biases, or indirect evidence from randomised studies of other (non-betacorona) respiratory viruses with methodological limitations. Despite the uncertainty, the range of possible RR reduction must be considered in the context of the local epidemiology and be translated into absolute risk reductions. In Norway, for example, it was estimated that 200?000 people would need to wear facemasks to prevent one new infection per week. They assumed a 40% RR reduction with the use of surgical masks. This large number needed to prevent is due to the low prevalence or baseline risk for infection. From a population perspective, one can argue that wearing a facemask would neither be worth the public's money nor outweigh any potential harms, and the decision to wear a facemask be left to the individual, depending on the values they place on the outcomes. Yet, in a setting with high baseline risks, such as a health-care workers caring for a superspreading patient with COVID-19, wearing a mask (applying the same relative effect as above) prevents the infection in up to one out of two health-care workers, and a strong recommendation that all such individuals should wear a facemask might be warranted, despite uncertainty in the evidence. The reason for this stark contrast is the context and baseline risk, not a difference in the relative effect facemasks provide. It is not yet clear where the exact threshold is for the baseline risk that justifies using facemasks in the community (or mandating them), but given the paucity of evidence for severe adverse effects that more invasive interventions have, wearing a facemask might be acceptable in many situations, despite the need for more evidence. As you can see even with a risk reduction assumed at 40% (which most experts I've listened to say is on the high side) You get 1 case reduction per week from 200k wearing it or 5 cases per million or based on the population 25 cases reduction per week, but unfortunately there current infection rates are 1400 per week so in reality not much, but some would say better a little than none and others would say in the grand scheme and weighing in costs meh "Anyhow back to the op instead of all this frivolousness. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home."Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any Covid symptoms.. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Maybe hay fever is a communicable disease nowadays. Every day is a school day lol"Maybe..  | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms.." | |||
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"I copied this straight from last month's Lancet!!! It's long but worth a read for those so staunch on either side. Systematic reviews of facemask use suggest relative risk (RR) reductions for infection ranging from 6–80%, including for betacoronavirus infection (eg, COVID-19, SARS, MERS). This inconsistency might be a result of different inclusion and exclusion criteria of the type of studies; the type of included population—eg, health-care workers or the general public; possibly the type of facemask used; the outcomes considered, including laboratory-confirmed virus versus symptoms alone, as well as undesirable consequences; and the setting—eg, epidemic versus non epidemic scenarios. For COVID-19, this evidence is of low or very low certainty because it is derived from observational studies with important risk of various biases, or indirect evidence from randomised studies of other (non-betacorona) respiratory viruses with methodological limitations. Despite the uncertainty, the range of possible RR reduction must be considered in the context of the local epidemiology and be translated into absolute risk reductions. In Norway, for example, it was estimated that 200?000 people would need to wear facemasks to prevent one new infection per week. They assumed a 40% RR reduction with the use of surgical masks. This large number needed to prevent is due to the low prevalence or baseline risk for infection. From a population perspective, one can argue that wearing a facemask would neither be worth the public's money nor outweigh any potential harms, and the decision to wear a facemask be left to the individual, depending on the values they place on the outcomes. Yet, in a setting with high baseline risks, such as a health-care workers caring for a superspreading patient with COVID-19, wearing a mask (applying the same relative effect as above) prevents the infection in up to one out of two health-care workers, and a strong recommendation that all such individuals should wear a facemask might be warranted, despite uncertainty in the evidence. The reason for this stark contrast is the context and baseline risk, not a difference in the relative effect facemasks provide. It is not yet clear where the exact threshold is for the baseline risk that justifies using facemasks in the community (or mandating them), but given the paucity of evidence for severe adverse effects that more invasive interventions have, wearing a facemask might be acceptable in many situations, despite the need for more evidence. As you can see even with a risk reduction assumed at 40% (which most experts I've listened to say is on the high side) You get 1 case reduction per week from 200k wearing it or 5 cases per million or based on the population 25 cases reduction per week, but unfortunately there current infection rates are 1400 per week so in reality not much, but some would say better a little than none and others would say in the grand scheme and weighing in costs meh
Anyhow back to the op instead of all this frivolousness.
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Maybe hay fever is a communicable disease nowadays. Every day is a school day lol
Lol there's not much hay around in October dear "There isn't, but there is still pollen from seasonal plants, which people can cause allergic reactions for some... | |||
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"I copied this straight from last month's Lancet!!! It's long but worth a read for those so staunch on either side. Systematic reviews of facemask use suggest relative risk (RR) reductions for infection ranging from 6–80%, including for betacoronavirus infection (eg, COVID-19, SARS, MERS). This inconsistency might be a result of different inclusion and exclusion criteria of the type of studies; the type of included population—eg, health-care workers or the general public; possibly the type of facemask used; the outcomes considered, including laboratory-confirmed virus versus symptoms alone, as well as undesirable consequences; and the setting—eg, epidemic versus non epidemic scenarios. For COVID-19, this evidence is of low or very low certainty because it is derived from observational studies with important risk of various biases, or indirect evidence from randomised studies of other (non-betacorona) respiratory viruses with methodological limitations. Despite the uncertainty, the range of possible RR reduction must be considered in the context of the local epidemiology and be translated into absolute risk reductions. In Norway, for example, it was estimated that 200?000 people would need to wear facemasks to prevent one new infection per week. They assumed a 40% RR reduction with the use of surgical masks. This large number needed to prevent is due to the low prevalence or baseline risk for infection. From a population perspective, one can argue that wearing a facemask would neither be worth the public's money nor outweigh any potential harms, and the decision to wear a facemask be left to the individual, depending on the values they place on the outcomes. Yet, in a setting with high baseline risks, such as a health-care workers caring for a superspreading patient with COVID-19, wearing a mask (applying the same relative effect as above) prevents the infection in up to one out of two health-care workers, and a strong recommendation that all such individuals should wear a facemask might be warranted, despite uncertainty in the evidence. The reason for this stark contrast is the context and baseline risk, not a difference in the relative effect facemasks provide. It is not yet clear where the exact threshold is for the baseline risk that justifies using facemasks in the community (or mandating them), but given the paucity of evidence for severe adverse effects that more invasive interventions have, wearing a facemask might be acceptable in many situations, despite the need for more evidence. As you can see even with a risk reduction assumed at 40% (which most experts I've listened to say is on the high side) You get 1 case reduction per week from 200k wearing it or 5 cases per million or based on the population 25 cases reduction per week, but unfortunately there current infection rates are 1400 per week so in reality not much, but some would say better a little than none and others would say in the grand scheme and weighing in costs meh
Anyhow back to the op instead of all this frivolousness.
Which, to the best of my knowledge, you haven't submitted an opinion."I did, I'm the last sentence before it got derailed with sillyness about hayfever | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period. "Not to be pedantic but sneezing is not a common symptom of Covid. I have a sensitive nose, I rarely get though a day without a sneeze. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms..
"Please do not alter my posts! The cough symptom is if you have a new or different cough...mine's been the same for years.. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms..
Please do not alter my posts! The cough symptom is if you have a new or different cough...mine's been the same for years.."Yes I would imagine that's pretty hard to tell if you've got your regular cough or the covid cough. Good luck with that | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms..
Please do not alter my posts! The cough symptom is if you have a new or different cough...mine's been the same for years..
Yes I would imagine that's pretty hard to tell if you've got your regular cough or the covid cough.
Good luck with that "It's very easy to tell that my cough hasn't changed, I've lived with it long enough | |||
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"I copied this straight from last month's Lancet!!! It's long but worth a read for those so staunch on either side. Systematic reviews of facemask use suggest relative risk (RR) reductions for infection ranging from 6–80%, including for betacoronavirus infection (eg, COVID-19, SARS, MERS). This inconsistency might be a result of different inclusion and exclusion criteria of the type of studies; the type of included population—eg, health-care workers or the general public; possibly the type of facemask used; the outcomes considered, including laboratory-confirmed virus versus symptoms alone, as well as undesirable consequences; and the setting—eg, epidemic versus non epidemic scenarios. For COVID-19, this evidence is of low or very low certainty because it is derived from observational studies with important risk of various biases, or indirect evidence from randomised studies of other (non-betacorona) respiratory viruses with methodological limitations. Despite the uncertainty, the range of possible RR reduction must be considered in the context of the local epidemiology and be translated into absolute risk reductions. In Norway, for example, it was estimated that 200?000 people would need to wear facemasks to prevent one new infection per week. They assumed a 40% RR reduction with the use of surgical masks. This large number needed to prevent is due to the low prevalence or baseline risk for infection. From a population perspective, one can argue that wearing a facemask would neither be worth the public's money nor outweigh any potential harms, and the decision to wear a facemask be left to the individual, depending on the values they place on the outcomes. Yet, in a setting with high baseline risks, such as a health-care workers caring for a superspreading patient with COVID-19, wearing a mask (applying the same relative effect as above) prevents the infection in up to one out of two health-care workers, and a strong recommendation that all such individuals should wear a facemask might be warranted, despite uncertainty in the evidence. The reason for this stark contrast is the context and baseline risk, not a difference in the relative effect facemasks provide. It is not yet clear where the exact threshold is for the baseline risk that justifies using facemasks in the community (or mandating them), but given the paucity of evidence for severe adverse effects that more invasive interventions have, wearing a facemask might be acceptable in many situations, despite the need for more evidence. As you can see even with a risk reduction assumed at 40% (which most experts I've listened to say is on the high side) You get 1 case reduction per week from 200k wearing it or 5 cases per million or based on the population 25 cases reduction per week, but unfortunately there current infection rates are 1400 per week so in reality not much, but some would say better a little than none and others would say in the grand scheme and weighing in costs meh
Anyhow back to the op instead of all this frivolousness.
Which, to the best of my knowledge, you haven't submitted an opinion.
I did, I'm the last sentence before it got derailed with sillyness about hayfever "Not seeing it I'll book an appointment at specsavers and I'll get a Covid test lined up for the wife she just bloody sneezed | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms..
Please do not alter my posts! The cough symptom is if you have a new or different cough...mine's been the same for years..
Yes I would imagine that's pretty hard to tell if you've got your regular cough or the covid cough.
Good luck with that "I have emphysema so I have a cough all the time...and believe me I know that cough and it's totally different from what a covid cough is...credit people with knowing their own body's ffs | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms..
Please do not alter my posts! The cough symptom is if you have a new or different cough...mine's been the same for years..
Yes I would imagine that's pretty hard to tell if you've got your regular cough or the covid cough.
Good luck with that
It's very easy to tell that my cough hasn't changed, I've lived with it long enough "Trying to tell you how to suck eggs ffs | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms..
Please do not alter my posts! The cough symptom is if you have a new or different cough...mine's been the same for years..
Yes I would imagine that's pretty hard to tell if you've got your regular cough or the covid cough.
Good luck with that
I have emphysema so I have a cough all the time...and believe me I know that cough and it's totally different from what a covid cough is...credit people with knowing their own body's ffs"And that's why you never listen to advice from Ken or Sandra | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms..
Please do not alter my posts! The cough symptom is if you have a new or different cough...mine's been the same for years..
Yes I would imagine that's pretty hard to tell if you've got your regular cough or the covid cough.
Good luck with that
I have emphysema so I have a cough all the time...and believe me I know that cough and it's totally different from what a covid cough is...credit people with knowing their own body's ffs"Thank you.. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms..
Please do not alter my posts! The cough symptom is if you have a new or different cough...mine's been the same for years..
Yes I would imagine that's pretty hard to tell if you've got your regular cough or the covid cough.
Good luck with that
I have emphysema so I have a cough all the time...and believe me I know that cough and it's totally different from what a covid cough is...credit people with knowing their own body's ffs
Thank you.. "Your...cough cough...welcome | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms..
Please do not alter my posts! The cough symptom is if you have a new or different cough...mine's been the same for years..
Yes I would imagine that's pretty hard to tell if you've got your regular cough or the covid cough.
Good luck with that
It's very easy to tell that my cough hasn't changed, I've lived with it long enough
Trying to tell you how to suck eggs ffs"Head and brick wall come to mind! | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms..
Please do not alter my posts! The cough symptom is if you have a new or different cough...mine's been the same for years..
Yes I would imagine that's pretty hard to tell if you've got your regular cough or the covid cough.
Good luck with that
I have emphysema so I have a cough all the time...and believe me I know that cough and it's totally different from what a covid cough is...credit people with knowing their own body's ffs
Thank you..
Your...cough cough...welcome "Haha.. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
I cough and sneeze quite often and am not going to isolate because of it..
Don't then, I'm fine with whatever you do.
I'm just saying government advice is for those displaying symptoms to isolate at home.
Mine are symptoms of another condition, which I've had years, so I won't isolate unless I get any OTHER Covid symptoms..
Please do not alter my posts! The cough symptom is if you have a new or different cough...mine's been the same for years..
Yes I would imagine that's pretty hard to tell if you've got your regular cough or the covid cough.
Good luck with that
It's very easy to tell that my cough hasn't changed, I've lived with it long enough
Trying to tell you how to suck eggs ffs
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"So many great ways to wear them too! Just under the nose is very popular but below the chin seems to be the most stylish.
Why bother! If it’s under either nose or chin it’s just a waste of time. "to be fair i think there a complete waste of time anyway | |||
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"I copied this straight from last month's Lancet!!! It's long but worth a read for those so staunch on either side. Systematic reviews of facemask use suggest relative risk (RR) reductions for infection ranging from 6–80%, including for betacoronavirus infection (eg, COVID-19, SARS, MERS). This inconsistency might be a result of different inclusion and exclusion criteria of the type of studies; the type of included population—eg, health-care workers or the general public; possibly the type of facemask used; the outcomes considered, including laboratory-confirmed virus versus symptoms alone, as well as undesirable consequences; and the setting—eg, epidemic versus non epidemic scenarios. For COVID-19, this evidence is of low or very low certainty because it is derived from observational studies with important risk of various biases, or indirect evidence from randomised studies of other (non-betacorona) respiratory viruses with methodological limitations. Despite the uncertainty, the range of possible RR reduction must be considered in the context of the local epidemiology and be translated into absolute risk reductions. In Norway, for example, it was estimated that 200?000 people would need to wear facemasks to prevent one new infection per week. They assumed a 40% RR reduction with the use of surgical masks. This large number needed to prevent is due to the low prevalence or baseline risk for infection. From a population perspective, one can argue that wearing a facemask would neither be worth the public's money nor outweigh any potential harms, and the decision to wear a facemask be left to the individual, depending on the values they place on the outcomes. Yet, in a setting with high baseline risks, such as a health-care workers caring for a superspreading patient with COVID-19, wearing a mask (applying the same relative effect as above) prevents the infection in up to one out of two health-care workers, and a strong recommendation that all such individuals should wear a facemask might be warranted, despite uncertainty in the evidence. The reason for this stark contrast is the context and baseline risk, not a difference in the relative effect facemasks provide. It is not yet clear where the exact threshold is for the baseline risk that justifies using facemasks in the community (or mandating them), but given the paucity of evidence for severe adverse effects that more invasive interventions have, wearing a facemask might be acceptable in many situations, despite the need for more evidence. As you can see even with a risk reduction assumed at 40% (which most experts I've listened to say is on the high side) You get 1 case reduction per week from 200k wearing it or 5 cases per million or based on the population 25 cases reduction per week, but unfortunately there current infection rates are 1400 per week so in reality not much, but some would say better a little than none and others would say in the grand scheme and weighing in costs meh
Anyhow back to the op instead of all this frivolousness.
Which, to the best of my knowledge, you haven't submitted an opinion.
I did, I'm the last sentence before it got derailed with sillyness about hayfever "Anyhow back to the point of the thread | |||
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"I dont wear mask at all, complete waste of time that little thin piece of cloth. I wear my snood and put it over my mouth and nose. Its thicker and warmer aswell " That's a good idea | |||
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"I dont wear mask at all, complete waste of time that little thin piece of cloth. I wear my snood and put it over my mouth and nose. Its thicker and warmer aswell That's a good idea "thank you ?? | |||
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"I bet when you all go meeting each other in your meets you dont wear masks then do you ?? " I guess they don't | |||
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"I dont wear mask at all, complete waste of time that little thin piece of cloth. I wear my snood and put it over my mouth and nose. Its thicker and warmer aswell That's a good idea thank you ?? "I'm actually going to get some snoods, I think they would be more comfortable and attractive | |||
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"I bet when you all go meeting each other in your meets you dont wear masks then do you ?? I guess they don't "so its ok to have a whinge at people out in public who choose not to wear a mask. But when there meeting up for sex they dont wear masks..double standards some people | |||
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"I dont wear mask at all, complete waste of time that little thin piece of cloth. I wear my snood and put it over my mouth and nose. Its thicker and warmer aswell That's a good idea thank you ??
I'm actually going to get some snoods, I think they would be more comfortable and attractive "they are really comfortable and warm ..great in this weather | |||
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"I bet when you all go meeting each other in your meets you dont wear masks then do you ?? I guess they don't so its ok to have a whinge at people out in public who choose not to wear a mask. But when there meeting up for sex they dont wear masks..double standards some people "Definitely double standards, if they are doing that, I'm personally not meeting | |||
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"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?" cus they dont work if they did why do we have to shut all the shops ?? | |||
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"I dont wear mask at all, complete waste of time that little thin piece of cloth. I wear my snood and put it over my mouth and nose. Its thicker and warmer aswell That's a good idea thank you ??
I'm actually going to get some snoods, I think they would be more comfortable and attractive they are really comfortable and warm ..great in this weather "You've sold it to me | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period. "Jesus fucking Christ.... 9 months into the pandemic and people still don't know which are Covid-19 symptoms compared to the common cold. | |||
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"I copied this straight from last month's Lancet!!! It's long but worth a read for those so staunch on either side. Systematic reviews of facemask use suggest relative risk (RR) reductions for infection ranging from 6–80%, including for betacoronavirus infection (eg, COVID-19, SARS, MERS). This inconsistency might be a result of different inclusion and exclusion criteria of the type of studies; the type of included population—eg, health-care workers or the general public; possibly the type of facemask used; the outcomes considered, including laboratory-confirmed virus versus symptoms alone, as well as undesirable consequences; and the setting—eg, epidemic versus non epidemic scenarios. For COVID-19, this evidence is of low or very low certainty because it is derived from observational studies with important risk of various biases, or indirect evidence from randomised studies of other (non-betacorona) respiratory viruses with methodological limitations. Despite the uncertainty, the range of possible RR reduction must be considered in the context of the local epidemiology and be translated into absolute risk reductions. In Norway, for example, it was estimated that 200?000 people would need to wear facemasks to prevent one new infection per week. They assumed a 40% RR reduction with the use of surgical masks. This large number needed to prevent is due to the low prevalence or baseline risk for infection. From a population perspective, one can argue that wearing a facemask would neither be worth the public's money nor outweigh any potential harms, and the decision to wear a facemask be left to the individual, depending on the values they place on the outcomes. Yet, in a setting with high baseline risks, such as a health-care workers caring for a superspreading patient with COVID-19, wearing a mask (applying the same relative effect as above) prevents the infection in up to one out of two health-care workers, and a strong recommendation that all such individuals should wear a facemask might be warranted, despite uncertainty in the evidence. The reason for this stark contrast is the context and baseline risk, not a difference in the relative effect facemasks provide. It is not yet clear where the exact threshold is for the baseline risk that justifies using facemasks in the community (or mandating them), but given the paucity of evidence for severe adverse effects that more invasive interventions have, wearing a facemask might be acceptable in many situations, despite the need for more evidence. As you can see even with a risk reduction assumed at 40% (which most experts I've listened to say is on the high side) You get 1 case reduction per week from 200k wearing it or 5 cases per million or based on the population 25 cases reduction per week, but unfortunately there current infection rates are 1400 per week so in reality not much, but some would say better a little than none and others would say in the grand scheme and weighing in costs meh
Anyhow back to the op instead of all this frivolousness.
Which, to the best of my knowledge, you haven't submitted an opinion.
I did, I'm the last sentence before it got derailed with sillyness about hayfever
Anyhow back to the point of the thread "I think they point out here that snoods are in the lower range of effectiveness when most studies were looking at surgical masks/n95 | |||
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"I copied this straight from last month's Lancet!!! It's long but worth a read for those so staunch on either side. Systematic reviews of facemask use suggest relative risk (RR) reductions for infection ranging from 6–80%, including for betacoronavirus infection (eg, COVID-19, SARS, MERS). This inconsistency might be a result of different inclusion and exclusion criteria of the type of studies; the type of included population—eg, health-care workers or the general public; possibly the type of facemask used; the outcomes considered, including laboratory-confirmed virus versus symptoms alone, as well as undesirable consequences; and the setting—eg, epidemic versus non epidemic scenarios. For COVID-19, this evidence is of low or very low certainty because it is derived from observational studies with important risk of various biases, or indirect evidence from randomised studies of other (non-betacorona) respiratory viruses with methodological limitations. Despite the uncertainty, the range of possible RR reduction must be considered in the context of the local epidemiology and be translated into absolute risk reductions. In Norway, for example, it was estimated that 200?000 people would need to wear facemasks to prevent one new infection per week. They assumed a 40% RR reduction with the use of surgical masks. This large number needed to prevent is due to the low prevalence or baseline risk for infection. From a population perspective, one can argue that wearing a facemask would neither be worth the public's money nor outweigh any potential harms, and the decision to wear a facemask be left to the individual, depending on the values they place on the outcomes. Yet, in a setting with high baseline risks, such as a health-care workers caring for a superspreading patient with COVID-19, wearing a mask (applying the same relative effect as above) prevents the infection in up to one out of two health-care workers, and a strong recommendation that all such individuals should wear a facemask might be warranted, despite uncertainty in the evidence. The reason for this stark contrast is the context and baseline risk, not a difference in the relative effect facemasks provide. It is not yet clear where the exact threshold is for the baseline risk that justifies using facemasks in the community (or mandating them), but given the paucity of evidence for severe adverse effects that more invasive interventions have, wearing a facemask might be acceptable in many situations, despite the need for more evidence. As you can see even with a risk reduction assumed at 40% (which most experts I've listened to say is on the high side) You get 1 case reduction per week from 200k wearing it or 5 cases per million or based on the population 25 cases reduction per week, but unfortunately there current infection rates are 1400 per week so in reality not much, but some would say better a little than none and others would say in the grand scheme and weighing in costs meh
Anyhow back to the op instead of all this frivolousness.
Which, to the best of my knowledge, you haven't submitted an opinion.
I did, I'm the last sentence before it got derailed with sillyness about hayfever
Anyhow back to the point of the thread
I think they point out here that snoods are in the lower range of effectiveness when most studies were looking at surgical masks/n95 "not inttested in what studies say. I dont believe for 1 min that any mask we wear is helping 1 but. Everybody's wearing them and social distancing blah blah blah..but the spread is still happening so studies show that to me the mask wearing makes not 1 bit of diffrence | |||
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"We were in lockdown earlier this year. Shops now all open and schools. " do you wear your mask when at a glory hole ? Do you wear your mask when suckin on another cock ? I dont think so somehow. So you can wear your mask all week and meet a guy 1 day and completely let your guard down so wots the point | |||
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"Been wearing one since March but I’m finding it quite strange how infection cases are rising now there’s more people wearing them out and about, Wales were quite low on cases before they brought in the wear them in shops rule for them, same happening in Spain, maybe it’s the touching face more?? " exactly if the masks were makin any diffrence why is the spread not stopping | |||
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"Been wearing one since March but I’m finding it quite strange how infection cases are rising now there’s more people wearing them out and about, Wales were quite low on cases before they brought in the wear them in shops rule for them, same happening in Spain, maybe it’s the touching face more?? exactly if the masks were makin any diffrence why is the spread not stopping " If everyone everywhere were using face masks then you'd have a valued point. But their not, so you don't unfortunately  | |||
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"Been wearing one since March but I’m finding it quite strange how infection cases are rising now there’s more people wearing them out and about, Wales were quite low on cases before they brought in the wear them in shops rule for them, same happening in Spain, maybe it’s the touching face more?? exactly if the masks were makin any diffrence why is the spread not stopping " Come on let's not be over simplistic. Face masks are one of a few measures to reduce the spread of infections. Nobody expects them to be 100 per cent or even 25 per cent effective. But in conjunction with other measures it reduces the spread and reduces the viral load. The question should really be... What would the infections be without these measures. | |||
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"Whe I wore 1 of those thin blue masks at work, my matefarted and I could smell it. So if a fart got through his boxer shorts a pair of jeans and that blue mask then surely covid can aswell" Lucky for you farts aren't infectious then isn't it. | |||
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"I really can't believe how many people are still so ignorant on how masks work and who benefits from their use. No wonder the country is so fucking infected
Do you remember when we were kids... And your mum used to shriek... "cover your mouth when you cough " and "use a hankie when you sneeze"... Maybe there was nothing in that basic hygiene either
Not to be pedantic but people who are coughing and sneezing should be isolating at home for the required period.
Jesus fucking Christ....
9 months into the pandemic and people still don't know which are Covid-19 symptoms compared to the common cold. "Yes..scary isn't it | |||
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"Whe I wore 1 of those thin blue masks at work, my matefarted and I could smell it. So if a fart got through his boxer shorts a pair of jeans and that blue mask then surely covid can aswell Lucky for you farts aren't infectious then isn't it." | |||
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"Whe I wore 1 of those thin blue masks at work, my matefarted and I could smell it. So if a fart got through his boxer shorts a pair of jeans and that blue mask then surely covid can aswell Lucky for you farts aren't infectious then isn't it." how do we know farts arnt a way of spreading covid pmsl | |||
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"Whe I wore 1 of those thin blue masks at work, my matefarted and I could smell it. So if a fart got through his boxer shorts a pair of jeans and that blue mask then surely covid can aswell Lucky for you farts aren't infectious then isn't it. how do we know farts arnt a way of spreading covid pmsl" Oh no... . | |||
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"Been wearing one since March but I’m finding it quite strange how infection cases are rising now there’s more people wearing them out and about, Wales were quite low on cases before they brought in the wear them in shops rule for them, same happening in Spain, maybe it’s the touching face more?? exactly if the masks were makin any diffrence why is the spread not stopping " If you care to look at the post I made from the Lancet you'll see that face masks give you a reduction of 1 case per week for every 200k mask wearers based on a 40% RR. | |||
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"I copied this straight from last month's Lancet!!! It's long but worth a read for those so staunch on either side. Systematic reviews of facemask use suggest relative risk (RR) reductions for infection ranging from 6–80%, including for betacoronavirus infection (eg, COVID-19, SARS, MERS). This inconsistency might be a result of different inclusion and exclusion criteria of the type of studies; the type of included population—eg, health-care workers or the general public; possibly the type of facemask used; the outcomes considered, including laboratory-confirmed virus versus symptoms alone, as well as undesirable consequences; and the setting—eg, epidemic versus non epidemic scenarios. For COVID-19, this evidence is of low or very low certainty because it is derived from observational studies with important risk of various biases, or indirect evidence from randomised studies of other (non-betacorona) respiratory viruses with methodological limitations. Despite the uncertainty, the range of possible RR reduction must be considered in the context of the local epidemiology and be translated into absolute risk reductions. In Norway, for example, it was estimated that 200?000 people would need to wear facemasks to prevent one new infection per week. They assumed a 40% RR reduction with the use of surgical masks. This large number needed to prevent is due to the low prevalence or baseline risk for infection. From a population perspective, one can argue that wearing a facemask would neither be worth the public's money nor outweigh any potential harms, and the decision to wear a facemask be left to the individual, depending on the values they place on the outcomes. Yet, in a setting with high baseline risks, such as a health-care workers caring for a superspreading patient with COVID-19, wearing a mask (applying the same relative effect as above) prevents the infection in up to one out of two health-care workers, and a strong recommendation that all such individuals should wear a facemask might be warranted, despite uncertainty in the evidence. The reason for this stark contrast is the context and baseline risk, not a difference in the relative effect facemasks provide. It is not yet clear where the exact threshold is for the baseline risk that justifies using facemasks in the community (or mandating them), but given the paucity of evidence for severe adverse effects that more invasive interventions have, wearing a facemask might be acceptable in many situations, despite the need for more evidence. As you can see even with a risk reduction assumed at 40% (which most experts I've listened to say is on the high side) You get 1 case reduction per week from 200k wearing it or 5 cases per million or based on the population 25 cases reduction per week, but unfortunately there current infection rates are 1400 per week so in reality not much, but some would say better a little than none and others would say in the grand scheme and weighing in costs meh "It's this one here | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?"Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask. Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500? | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500? "Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ... "If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?" Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not. | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
". Ahh I've just spotted my mistake, I said we could reduce the weekly cases from 120,000 to 119,500 when actually the reduction would be 119,700. My bad | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
"Yeah me too I just keep mine on until I get back to the car...unless I need to sneeze.... | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
Yeah me too I just keep mine on until I get back to the car...unless I need to sneeze.... "You need to practice sneezing with your mouth shut | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
Yeah me too I just keep mine on until I get back to the car...unless I need to sneeze....
You need to practice sneezing with your mouth shut "Then it will all splash out of my nose...and that will be unfortunate for the poor soul who gets a faceful... | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
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Ahh I've just spotted my mistake, I said we could reduce the weekly cases from 120,000 to 119,500 when actually the reduction would be 119,700.
My bad"So a simple piece of cloth could potentially save 300 lives a week. A yes from me. | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
Yeah me too I just keep mine on until I get back to the car...unless I need to sneeze....
You need to practice sneezing with your mouth shut
Then it will all splash out of my nose...and that will be unfortunate for the poor soul who gets a faceful... "Ah some can curl a tongue...while others cant | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
Yeah me too I just keep mine on until I get back to the car...unless I need to sneeze....
You need to practice sneezing with your mouth shut
Then it will all splash out of my nose...and that will be unfortunate for the poor soul who gets a faceful...
Ah some can curl a tongue...while others cant "Haha! I'll practise...I may hit a few targets in the meantime though..  | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
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Ahh I've just spotted my mistake, I said we could reduce the weekly cases from 120,000 to 119,500 when actually the reduction would be 119,700.
My bad
So a simple piece of cloth could potentially save 300 lives a week.
A yes from me."I believe that was cases, if we take the IFR of 0.05% for under 70 year old as shown by the paper peer reviewed and published by the WHO by Dr ioannadis. Then after 22 weeks of saving 300 cases a week you could expect to save 1 death. | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
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Ahh I've just spotted my mistake, I said we could reduce the weekly cases from 120,000 to 119,500 when actually the reduction would be 119,700.
My bad
So a simple piece of cloth could potentially save 300 lives a week.
A yes from me.
I believe that was cases, if we take the IFR of 0.05% for under 70 year old as shown by the paper peer reviewed and published by the WHO by Dr ioannadis.
Then after 22 weeks of saving 300 cases a week you could expect to save 1 death.
"Of course I'm basing those figures on 100% of the population wearing masks and we know there's probably millions who can't for medical reasons  | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
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Ahh I've just spotted my mistake, I said we could reduce the weekly cases from 120,000 to 119,500 when actually the reduction would be 119,700.
My bad
So a simple piece of cloth could potentially save 300 lives a week.
A yes from me.
I believe that was cases, if we take the IFR of 0.05% for under 70 year old as shown by the paper peer reviewed and published by the WHO by Dr ioannadis.
Then after 22 weeks of saving 300 cases a week you could expect to save 1 death.
Of course I'm basing those figures on 100% of the population wearing masks and we know there's probably millions who can't for medical reasons "I'm going out on a limb here and saying your "study" is shite Just my opinion mind. But as they say if you don't like one study you'll always find another to prove it wrong. Just like the pissing your pants one. | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
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Ahh I've just spotted my mistake, I said we could reduce the weekly cases from 120,000 to 119,500 when actually the reduction would be 119,700.
My bad
So a simple piece of cloth could potentially save 300 lives a week.
A yes from me.
I believe that was cases, if we take the IFR of 0.05% for under 70 year old as shown by the paper peer reviewed and published by the WHO by Dr ioannadis.
Then after 22 weeks of saving 300 cases a week you could expect to save 1 death.
Of course I'm basing those figures on 100% of the population wearing masks and we know there's probably millions who can't for medical reasons
I'm going out on a limb here and saying your "study" is shite
Just my opinion mind.
But as they say if you don't like one study you'll always find another to prove it wrong. Just like the pissing your pants one.
"it must be true cos lancet says do ...why do people believe everything that they get told | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
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Ahh I've just spotted my mistake, I said we could reduce the weekly cases from 120,000 to 119,500 when actually the reduction would be 119,700.
My bad
So a simple piece of cloth could potentially save 300 lives a week.
A yes from me.
I believe that was cases, if we take the IFR of 0.05% for under 70 year old as shown by the paper peer reviewed and published by the WHO by Dr ioannadis.
Then after 22 weeks of saving 300 cases a week you could expect to save 1 death.
Of course I'm basing those figures on 100% of the population wearing masks and we know there's probably millions who can't for medical reasons
I'm going out on a limb here and saying your "study" is shite
Just my opinion mind.
But as they say if you don't like one study you'll always find another to prove it wrong. Just like the pissing your pants one.
". I picked it from the Lancet which is the Bible for medical people. You obviously know better than them but I suspect it's just not the science that's suits your bias because you like to blame covidiots and nobody likes having there regular rant taken away from them do they?. | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
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Ahh I've just spotted my mistake, I said we could reduce the weekly cases from 120,000 to 119,500 when actually the reduction would be 119,700.
My bad
So a simple piece of cloth could potentially save 300 lives a week.
A yes from me.
I believe that was cases, if we take the IFR of 0.05% for under 70 year old as shown by the paper peer reviewed and published by the WHO by Dr ioannadis.
Then after 22 weeks of saving 300 cases a week you could expect to save 1 death.
Of course I'm basing those figures on 100% of the population wearing masks and we know there's probably millions who can't for medical reasons
I'm going out on a limb here and saying your "study" is shite
Just my opinion mind.
But as they say if you don't like one study you'll always find another to prove it wrong. Just like the pissing your pants one.
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I picked it from the Lancet which is the Bible for medical people.
You obviously know better than them but I suspect it's just not the science that's suits your bias because you like to blame covidiots and nobody likes having there regular rant taken away from them do they?.
"The quite I lut for you was also from your beloved lancet. In case you didn't get to the bottom me the last lines read "Dismissing a low-cost intervention such as mass masking as ineffective because there is no evidence of effectiveness in clinical trials is in our view potentially harmful." | |||
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"It keeps getting lost because of the amount of derailment of the thread
Maybe scroll up and answer the actual question then ?
Well based on the lancets figures with the entire population of the UK wearing masks and assuming the same 40%rr as Norway assumed we'd see a 1 case reducing per 200k meaning we'd see a 300 case reduction per week if the entire of the UK wore a mask.
Currently the UK is experiencing 120,000 cases a week meaning we could reduce that to 119,500?
Sorry, you were the one who was complaining about derailment of the topic which was ...
"If we have to wear them in shops, some now mandatory, thenwhy can't we wear them when out as well?"
Is there a specific reason we can't wear masks outside is what I took from it and I don't really see why not.
.
Ahh I've just spotted my mistake, I said we could reduce the weekly cases from 120,000 to 119,500 when actually the reduction would be 119,700.
My bad
So a simple piece of cloth could potentially save 300 lives a week.
A yes from me.
I believe that was cases, if we take the IFR of 0.05% for under 70 year old as shown by the paper peer reviewed and published by the WHO by Dr ioannadis.
Then after 22 weeks of saving 300 cases a week you could expect to save 1 death.
Of course I'm basing those figures on 100% of the population wearing masks and we know there's probably millions who can't for medical reasons
I'm going out on a limb here and saying your "study" is shite
Just my opinion mind.
But as they say if you don't like one study you'll always find another to prove it wrong. Just like the pissing your pants one.
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