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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Doubt it very much, in the UK at least. I think they're trying to get everyone's hopes up so they co-operate with the "short term" extra measures."
It does make it seem like there's an end in sight... IF they can get people to take it  |
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Even if there was a vaccine in a few weeks would there be enough of it? It will take ages to produce enough for every country. The flu vaccine is being rationed as they can't even supply enough to meet the demand |
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"According to some of the "news"papersMore chance of seeing Santa flying through the sky bringing presents"
You need the noraid tracker to do that, the vaccine will come from hospitals and surgeries. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Doubt it very much, in the UK at least. I think they're trying to get everyone's hopes up so they co-operate with the "short term" extra measures."
I hope there correct but I'm more inline with your beliefs.
Gov spin. |
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"Even if there was a vaccine in a few weeks would there be enough of it? It will take ages to produce enough for every country. The flu vaccine is being rationed as they can't even supply enough to meet the demand"
There is a planned roll out for immunisation should a vaccine be manufactured.
1st = care homes and staff
2nd = nhs frontline staff
3rd = 80 years plus
4th = 70 years plus
5th = 60 years plus and people with major health issues
6th = 50 year plus and major health issues |
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"Chicken pox vaccine took 25yrs to complete...
Just saying
Thankfully medical science and technology has advanced in the last 50 years though"
And the greatest funding push and administrative acceleration in vaccine history |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They may have a vaccine that has had some positive clinical trials; but getting it approved, produced and delivered will take far longer
News outlets like the Daily Fail need to stop churning out bullshit like this |
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"They may have a vaccine that has had some positive clinical trials; but getting it approved, produced and delivered will take far longer
News outlets like the Daily Fail need to stop churning out bullshit like this"
There's an expedited process going on. I'll agree Christmas seems unrealistic, particularly for people getting jabs, but what I've been hearing (not from the press! I've been listening to science podcasts) is that vaccines could begin to roll out next year. (In stages depending on need) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They may have a vaccine that has had some positive clinical trials; but getting it approved, produced and delivered will take far longer
News outlets like the Daily Fail need to stop churning out bullshit like this
There's an expedited process going on. I'll agree Christmas seems unrealistic, particularly for people getting jabs, but what I've been hearing (not from the press! I've been listening to science podcasts) is that vaccines could begin to roll out next year. (In stages depending on need)"
The researchers are playing their cards very close to their chests. No vaccine has ever been developed so quickly and while some of the processes for approval are being expedited, it’s a massive task to get a working vaccine developed so quickly. |
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"They may have a vaccine that has had some positive clinical trials; but getting it approved, produced and delivered will take far longer
News outlets like the Daily Fail need to stop churning out bullshit like this
There's an expedited process going on. I'll agree Christmas seems unrealistic, particularly for people getting jabs, but what I've been hearing (not from the press! I've been listening to science podcasts) is that vaccines could begin to roll out next year. (In stages depending on need)
The researchers are playing their cards very close to their chests. No vaccine has ever been developed so quickly and while some of the processes for approval are being expedited, it’s a massive task to get a working vaccine developed so quickly. "
Actually, there are processes where they're being much more open than usual.
It is a massive task. This will break all records. But it's the most concentrated and well funded push of medical research in history. |
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"Stuff any vaccine .. no thanks 
You're welcome to your lockup forever then hun
If we don't get enough vaccine uptake, lockdowns will have to continue.Not for me i will be having the vaccine. "
Ditto.
I've heard discussion that a vaccine might stop you getting sick but not from catching it and spreading it. So "you guys take the icky vaccine I don't want to take the risk" might backfire... |
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"They may have a vaccine that has had some positive clinical trials; but getting it approved, produced and delivered will take far longer
News outlets like the Daily Fail need to stop churning out bullshit like this
There's an expedited process going on. I'll agree Christmas seems unrealistic, particularly for people getting jabs, but what I've been hearing (not from the press! I've been listening to science podcasts) is that vaccines could begin to roll out next year. (In stages depending on need)
The researchers are playing their cards very close to their chests. No vaccine has ever been developed so quickly and while some of the processes for approval are being expedited, it’s a massive task to get a working vaccine developed so quickly. "
Although it may seem rushed, the principal of this vaccine is something scientists have been working on for decades.
The technology to make it possible has been improving exponentially and what was really lacking was the funding and in reality the purpose.
They now have both so I think we will have several safe effective vaccines very soon.
We will need several as what may be very effective in some will be completely ineffective in others. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"According to some of the "news"papers"
Don't listen to the news papers, that's pure sales headlines as it's what people want to hear.
Genuine medical sources are saying they'll have one by spring and then ready for this time next year. That's the reality. |
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"They may have a vaccine that has had some positive clinical trials; but getting it approved, produced and delivered will take far longer
News outlets like the Daily Fail need to stop churning out bullshit like this
There's an expedited process going on. I'll agree Christmas seems unrealistic, particularly for people getting jabs, but what I've been hearing (not from the press! I've been listening to science podcasts) is that vaccines could begin to roll out next year. (In stages depending on need)"
May I ask which podcasts you’re listening too? I’m genuinely interested. Thanks. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Last week I received an e mail from my local health authority asking if I would participate in a vaccine trial and it stated it would mean multiple clinic visits over a 12 month period so that particular vaccine if successful is a long way off |
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By *lan157Man
over a year ago
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I would have though you need to create Herd immunity with the vaccine before you can withdraw any protection measures. Vaccinating only a certain demographic on a priority timetable won't achieve that so it would seem likely it will be a very long time before we can say that the vaccine has made everything safe again . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Vaccines for this , vaccines for that. Do you not think we are playin God just a tad too much. The life expectancy is alot higher now and there's too many of us as there is. Why can't we just let nature take its course. Wot will be will be.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Vaccines for this , vaccines for that. Do you not think we are playin God just a tad too much. The life expectancy is alot higher now and there's too many of us as there is. Why can't we just let nature take its course. Wot will be will be.."
Yeah! Let's go back to the 19th century. |
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"Vaccines for this , vaccines for that. Do you not think we are playin God just a tad too much. The life expectancy is alot higher now and there's too many of us as there is. Why can't we just let nature take its course. Wot will be will be.."
Too many of us? Care to elaborate? |
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"Vaccines for this , vaccines for that. Do you not think we are playin God just a tad too much. The life expectancy is alot higher now and there's too many of us as there is. Why can't we just let nature take its course. Wot will be will be.."
We could close down the NHS and save a packet
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"Vaccines for this , vaccines for that. Do you not think we are playin God just a tad too much. The life expectancy is alot higher now and there's too many of us as there is. Why can't we just let nature take its course. Wot will be will be..
Too many of us? Care to elaborate?"
Please no. My waist isn't small enough for the 19th century  |
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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"Even if there was a vaccine in a few weeks would there be enough of it? It will take ages to produce enough for every country. The flu vaccine is being rationed as they can't even supply enough to meet the demand"
This. |
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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"There will not be a vaccine, at best a flu-like jab that will be given to the high risk.
Is a flu like jab not a vaccine?  "
Yes. Between this and Captain Caveman who wants us all to die of childhood illness because that’s the will of God, this thread is off the scale with stupid.
Even for the Virus forum! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Putin has the Vaccine apparently. He also claims to have Vaccinated with it to prove how much fate he has in it "
*Claims to have Vaccinated his Daughter with it |
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"Vaccines for this , vaccines for that. Do you not think we are playin God just a tad too much. The life expectancy is alot higher now and there's too many of us as there is. Why can't we just let nature take its course. Wot will be will be.."
Until you get ill and need treatment of course... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I was reading yesterday about the piles of bodies in Russia.
No idea who or what to believe these days. "
????? Can't find anything on Google. Please briefly share, Tnx in advance |
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"I was reading yesterday about the piles of bodies in Russia.
No idea who or what to believe these days.
????? Can't find anything on Google. Please briefly share, Tnx in advance"
If you Google "Bodies in Russia", some perhaps not exactly reliable media sources (such as the Daily Heil) come up with stories about morgues running out of space and bodies piling up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A vaccine has never been developed within 5 yrs before . That is a fact . We are being given false hope again . Dont forget only a few weeks ago Johnson said at one of his live televised briefings thet the UK would be back to normal by Christmas . He tells you what you want to hear and has done his whole career to get where he is today . He is a pathological liar |
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By *rufinWoman
over a year ago
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hurrah
have your '50% at best chance of working, by reducing symptoms, for a six month period' vaccine
i guess that counts psychologically as 'we've done our best' and then we get to ignore the deaths and move on? i wonder what those 82 year olds will die of instead once we've solved covid. or do people live forever now and every death is an avoidable tragedy? If so, we could move on next to the 40 000 uk annual deaths linked to air pollution. that mostly just involves not driving your car, so we don't even need a vaccine. or maybe we could look further afield and eradicate the malaria that kills half a million people a year (the under 5s are most at risk so that's a lot of 'total years of life' lost compared to covid which mostly kills the over 80s)
it's great how much we care now that we are literally willing to spend all our money and our children's money to extend life by a few months. imagine what we can achieve with this new mindset once we've solved covid.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"hurrah
have your '50% at best chance of working, by reducing symptoms, for a six month period' vaccine
i guess that counts psychologically as 'we've done our best' and then we get to ignore the deaths and move on? i wonder what those 82 year olds will die of instead once we've solved covid. or do people live forever now and every death is an avoidable tragedy? If so, we could move on next to the 40 000 uk annual deaths linked to air pollution. that mostly just involves not driving your car, so we don't even need a vaccine. or maybe we could look further afield and eradicate the malaria that kills half a million people a year (the under 5s are most at risk so that's a lot of 'total years of life' lost compared to covid which mostly kills the over 80s)
it's great how much we care now that we are literally willing to spend all our money and our children's money to extend life by a few months. imagine what we can achieve with this new mindset once we've solved covid.
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"Doubt it very much, in the UK at least. I think they're trying to get everyone's hopes up so they co-operate with the "short term" extra measures."
Absolutely this. There may never be a vaccine and even if there is, in say spring/summer next year, it will take a while to properly roll out and assess its effectiveness. We’re in this for the long haul. |
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"A vaccine has never been developed within 5 yrs before . That is a fact . We are being given false hope again . Dont forget only a few weeks ago Johnson said at one of his live televised briefings thet the UK would be back to normal by Christmas . He tells you what you want to hear and has done his whole career to get where he is today . He is a pathological liar "
Has there been a reason to create a vaccine as fast as this one in modern times with such advancements I'm technology and understanding of viruses and the immune system?
There are reasons why these vaccines for covid can be developed quicker. For example:
Oxford vaccine uses a delivery system that has been used before that has been adapted for covid.
Production of the vaccine has already started. Usually production of the vaccine would take place after clinical trials.
Clinical trials are on a far larger scale which means that results can be obtained far quicker.
Regulatory review is undertaken faster in an epidemic, because more staff and resources are dedicated to the review process.
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"hurrah
have your '50% at best chance of working, by reducing symptoms, for a six month period' vaccine
i guess that counts psychologically as 'we've done our best' and then we get to ignore the deaths and move on? i wonder what those 82 year olds will die of instead once we've solved covid. or do people live forever now and every death is an avoidable tragedy? If so, we could move on next to the 40 000 uk annual deaths linked to air pollution. that mostly just involves not driving your car, so we don't even need a vaccine. or maybe we could look further afield and eradicate the malaria that kills half a million people a year (the under 5s are most at risk so that's a lot of 'total years of life' lost compared to covid which mostly kills the over 80s)
it's great how much we care now that we are literally willing to spend all our money and our children's money to extend life by a few months. imagine what we can achieve with this new mindset once we've solved covid.
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When you say "mostly kills over 80s" the average age is 82. This means half of people who die are under 82. A small number of these will be 80 or 81 but most will be under 80. Probably about 45% are under 80 so your "mostly" is hardly an overwhelming majority.
6,000 people in the UK under the age of 70 have lost their lives due to covid despite only 7% of the population having caught the virus.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A vaccine has never been developed within 5 yrs before . That is a fact . We are being given false hope again . Dont forget only a few weeks ago Johnson said at one of his live televised briefings thet the UK would be back to normal by Christmas . He tells you what you want to hear and has done his whole career to get where he is today . He is a pathological liar "
Also Witty said after realistically a vaccine is unlikely to be available until oct 2021 at the earliest . We are being fed false hope daily |
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"A vaccine has never been developed within 5 yrs before . That is a fact . We are being given false hope again . Dont forget only a few weeks ago Johnson said at one of his live televised briefings thet the UK would be back to normal by Christmas . He tells you what you want to hear and has done his whole career to get where he is today . He is a pathological liar "
We've never had this big a pandemic in modern times, never in tbe history of the world has so much time, money and technology been applied to anything and that includes space travel and WW2 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was reading yesterday about the piles of bodies in Russia.
No idea who or what to believe these days.
????? Can't find anything on Google. Please briefly share, Tnx in advance
If you Google "Bodies in Russia", some perhaps not exactly reliable media sources (such as the Daily Heil) come up with stories about morgues running out of space and bodies piling up."
Thanks for that info |
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"A vaccine has never been developed within 5 yrs before . That is a fact . We are being given false hope again . Dont forget only a few weeks ago Johnson said at one of his live televised briefings thet the UK would be back to normal by Christmas . He tells you what you want to hear and has done his whole career to get where he is today . He is a pathological liar "
Not true they have developed them in under a year in the past its the clinical trials that drags it out to years. |
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"A vaccine has never been developed within 5 yrs before . That is a fact . We are being given false hope again . Dont forget only a few weeks ago Johnson said at one of his live televised briefings thet the UK would be back to normal by Christmas . He tells you what you want to hear and has done his whole career to get where he is today . He is a pathological liar "
A little quicker than 5 years maybe Trump was right ? |
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"A vaccine has never been developed within 5 yrs before . That is a fact . We are being given false hope again . Dont forget only a few weeks ago Johnson said at one of his live televised briefings thet the UK would be back to normal by Christmas . He tells you what you want to hear and has done his whole career to get where he is today . He is a pathological liar
We've never had this big a pandemic in modern times, never in tbe history of the world has so much time, money and technology been applied to anything and that includes space travel and WW2"
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