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over a year ago
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"From Worldometer today
Cases 18,800
Deaths 80"
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Funny NHS said 16,750?.
I've said it before and I'll say it again the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast by the pair of Muppets leading the science  |
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What figures that are a disgrace, are the ones released today. Durham is a small city
We have had 43 permanent shop closures since this pandemic started. There isn't much left now. One side of silver Street has nothing at all
Also statistics show that the infection rate is 8 times higher in schools, universities and nurseries than it is in the hospitality sector.. So when is this inept government going to get this whole thing right
My guess is... Never
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What figures that are a disgrace, are the ones released today. Durham is a small city
We have had 43 permanent shop closures since this pandemic started. There isn't much left now. One side of silver Street has nothing at all
Also statistics show that the infection rate is 8 times higher in schools, universities and nurseries than it is in the hospitality sector.. So when is this inept government going to get this whole thing right
My guess is... Never
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I actually agree,I think there's a good case for moving all learning from 14 years upwards to online with just the minimal amount of school/university access required, just give the university crew there accommodation money back out of fairness. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"From Worldometer today
Cases 18,800
Deaths 80.
Funny NHS said 16,750?.
I've said it before and I'll say it again the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast by the pair of Muppets leading the science "
“...... the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast...”
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The 50,000 is the forecast if *no* restrictions are in place. If there are no restrictions, then we will have an exponential rise.
The graph is linear - because of the restrictions in place. The three-tier restrictions are there to prevent it getting to the 50,000 mark.
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"The more under 30's that get it the better, they rarely get serious symptoms and once they have had it they arent going to be a reservoir for the old more vulnerable ones, "
“....... The more under 30's that get it the better....”
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Not true if they end up suffering from Long Covid - with long term health issues.
Long covid can turn an otherwise healthy person into a vulnerable person.
We could end up with more under 30’s being classed as ‘vulnerable’. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"From Worldometer today
Cases 18,800
Deaths 80.
Funny NHS said 16,750?.
I've said it before and I'll say it again the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast by the pair of Muppets leading the science
“...... the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast...”
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The 50,000 is the forecast if *no* restrictions are in place. If there are no restrictions, then we will have an exponential rise.
The graph is linear - because of the restrictions in place. The three-tier restrictions are there to prevent it getting to the 50,000 mark.
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Sorry but I think you will be wrong as the figures show at around 18000 mark are just people who have had a test and proved positive.
The real figures will be very close to the 50,000 mark now. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"From Worldometer today
Cases 18,800
Deaths 80.
Funny NHS said 16,750?.
I've said it before and I'll say it again the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast by the pair of Muppets leading the science
“...... the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast...”
—————————————
The 50,000 is the forecast if *no* restrictions are in place. If there are no restrictions, then we will have an exponential rise.
The graph is linear - because of the restrictions in place. The three-tier restrictions are there to prevent it getting to the 50,000 mark.
Sorry but I think you will be wrong as the figures show at around 18000 mark are just people who have had a test and proved positive.
The real figures will be very close to the 50,000 mark now."
The real figures have always been higher: pre, during and post lockdown.
The 50,000 prediction was based on ‘confirmed cases’ |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"From Worldometer today
Cases 18,800
Deaths 80.
Funny NHS said 16,750?.
I've said it before and I'll say it again the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast by the pair of Muppets leading the science "
You do realise the estimated 50,000 cases were the reasoning behind additional measures being imposed and implemented....
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"From Worldometer today
Cases 18,800
Deaths 80.
Funny NHS said 16,750?.
I've said it before and I'll say it again the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast by the pair of Muppets leading the science
You do realise the estimated 50,000 cases were the reasoning behind additional measures being imposed and implemented....
I guess not "
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Trouble is the lockdowns have only really just been imposed this last week.
Yet the figures have been high for weeks now, but not anything like as high as Vallance forecasted.
It's not anything to do with the recent lockdowns.
It must be down to increased testing
50,000 a day was outright scaremongering.
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"From Worldometer today
Cases 18,800
Deaths 80.
Funny NHS said 16,750?.
I've said it before and I'll say it again the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast by the pair of Muppets leading the science "
It's worth remembering that the pair of Muppets figures were a forecast if we didn't increase restrictions. Hence the increased instructions in higher infection areas.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"From Worldometer today
Cases 18,800
Deaths 80.
Funny NHS said 16,750?.
I've said it before and I'll say it again the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast by the pair of Muppets leading the science
It's worth remembering that the pair of Muppets figures were a forecast if we didn't increase restrictions. Hence the increased instructions in higher infection areas.
Cal"
Yes but the restrictions have only just happened the last week
They were forecasting 50,000 cases a day and 1000 deaths a day if we didn't get restrictions in place a month ago. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What figures that are a disgrace, are the ones released today. Durham is a small city
We have had 43 permanent shop closures since this pandemic started. There isn't much left now. One side of silver Street has nothing at all
Also statistics show that the infection rate is 8 times higher in schools, universities and nurseries than it is in the hospitality sector.. So when is this inept government going to get this whole thing right
My guess is... Never
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Sadly even though the hospital sector is responsible for a relatively small amount of transmission it is the soft target for the government.
The college local to my place of work is a nightmare.
My boss asked me to instruct some of my team to meet clients for 121s in a corner of the college canteen a few weeks back.
Myself and a member of my team did a visit to get the lay of the land what an eye opener.
The teacher giving us the tour was past herself. 70% of all the students weren't wearing masks in the communal areas, walkways and the challenges out areas. There also many students in large groups of more than 6.
It's no wonder infections are ripping through the education sector.
Our local primary school is in year group bubbles. 4 of the year groups are currently off self isolating.
The government is certainly not following the science.
KJ |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"The more under 30's that get it the better, they rarely get serious symptoms and once they have had it they arent going to be a reservoir for the old more vulnerable ones,
“....... The more under 30's that get it the better....”
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Not true if they end up suffering from Long Covid - with long term health issues.
Long covid can turn an otherwise healthy person into a vulnerable person.
We could end up with more under 30’s being classed as ‘vulnerable’. "
people suffer long term issues with other viruses, but it's a tiny percentage, sooner or later the vast majority of people will have covid or the vaccine, either of which could cause the issues you mention, but it's a tiny percent unless you hide away forever there is no choice |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"From Worldometer today
Cases 18,800
Deaths 80.
Funny NHS said 16,750?.
I've said it before and I'll say it again the cases are not exponential, there linear and were nowhere near the 50,000 forecast by the pair of Muppets leading the science
It's worth remembering that the pair of Muppets figures were a forecast if we didn't increase restrictions. Hence the increased instructions in higher infection areas.
Cal"
Actually from the notes they said restrictions wouldn't be enough and we needed a lockdown to avoid those figures.
The restrictions was the governments half way house and they were mostly only put in place two weeks ago.
They always get there forecasts wrong because there assumptions from the beginning are wrong, they presume like many on here do that nobody has any immunity to this virus, it's a very closely related virus to four other Corona virus that have been circulating decades, there's an awful lot that already have some form of t-cell remembrance, Ferguson the original Muppet forecaster is a theoretical physicist by trade, his predictions of Doom from most other epidemics like swine flu and CJD were all wrong by multitudes of factors, there wasn't even a single immunologist on sage from the outset most of them were social scientists.
It hasn't been going exponential and won't go exponential because there's already too much immunity in the wider society. |
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"The more under 30's that get it the better, they rarely get serious symptoms and once they have had it they arent going to be a reservoir for the old more vulnerable ones,
“....... The more under 30's that get it the better....”
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Not true if they end up suffering from Long Covid - with long term health issues.
Long covid can turn an otherwise healthy person into a vulnerable person.
We could end up with more under 30’s being classed as ‘vulnerable’.
people suffer long term issues with other viruses, but it's a tiny percentage, sooner or later the vast majority of people will have covid or the vaccine, either of which could cause the issues you mention, but it's a tiny percent unless you hide away forever there is no choice"
Long Covid, which may ovrrlap with the underlying health impacts of those infected, is significant in its reach. Covid, on its first infection, is impacting on multiple organs - heart, lungs, kidney, brain as well as causing cognitive damage. As a small proportion of sufferers have been evaluated, the full extent of this is unknown. We've no idea how these people would fare after multiple infections, as repeated organ damage and failures would be very life-limiting for those people. Multiple brain injuries, for example, can be much more catastrophic than a single injury and having had the first, people are much more vulnerable to having further damage. It also leaves them at increased risk of dementia, which doesn't only happen in old age.
We have to accept that we still understand little about this virus and its infection impacts. Caution should be our primary aim. |
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