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"No..your freedoms" Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..  | |||
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted" Is that due to a positive test result? | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app.. "But if they want to watch you... | |||
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Like al Capone just got resurrected..
Bizzies, rozzers, the old bill..
Feds pmsl.. | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you... "Psst Tom, that phone thingie.. That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech.. You don't need to have someone given access to an app.. | |||
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"Read the press... NHS furious.. " You mean the media, the same media you often denigrate as being part of the system.. that media? | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you...
Psst Tom, that phone thingie..
That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..
You don't need to have someone given access to an app.."As long as you are aware then fine.. your phone .. your choice ... | |||
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted" Facebook. Youtube. Bank sites/apps. Instant messenger apps like kik. Mobile games. Registering to site/apps, saying "yes" to terms and conditions in order to use "free" features of said sites/apps. Contactless payments, using your card to whitdraw cash from your account. All of the above are an effective way to trace you. Oh, even fabswingers is for sure collecting data on you. Just saying. | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you...
Psst Tom, that phone thingie..
That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..
You don't need to have someone given access to an app..
As long as you are aware then fine.. your phone .. your choice ... "If I am positive I will isolate.. I won't break it which is why this has come in, yes I can see why it will cause concerns but if people who are positive just isolate as told to then no need for such things.. | |||
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted Facebook. Youtube. Bank sites/apps. Instant messenger apps like kik. Mobile games. Registering to site/apps, saying "yes" to terms and conditions in order to use "free" features of said sites/apps. Contactless payments, using your card to whitdraw cash from your account. All of the above are an effective way to trace you. Oh, even fabswingers is for sure collecting data on you. Just saying." It's almost like some people have no idea of how the things work.. | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you...
Psst Tom, that phone thingie..
That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..
You don't need to have someone given access to an app..
As long as you are aware then fine.. your phone .. your choice ...
If I am positive I will isolate..
I won't break it which is why this has come in, yes I can see why it will cause concerns but if people who are positive just isolate as told to then no need for such things.."But people will decide to isolate or not and all our opinions will not matter either way | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you...
Psst Tom, that phone thingie..
That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..
You don't need to have someone given access to an app..
As long as you are aware then fine.. your phone .. your choice ...
If I am positive I will isolate..
I won't break it which is why this has come in, yes I can see why it will cause concerns but if people who are positive just isolate as told to then no need for such things..
But people will decide to isolate or not and all our opinions will not matter either way "It's the ones who are not isolating who need reining in, one fuckwit in Bolton who went to the pub after testing positive infected dozens and caused a spike of hundreds.. The sort of moron who gives the virus to someone and that someone then infects a loved one who may end up on a ventilator.. Fuck them, they are as bad as a person who doesn't tell a partner they have hiv.. | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you...
Psst Tom, that phone thingie..
That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..
You don't need to have someone given access to an app..
As long as you are aware then fine.. your phone .. your choice ...
If I am positive I will isolate..
I won't break it which is why this has come in, yes I can see why it will cause concerns but if people who are positive just isolate as told to then no need for such things..
But people will decide to isolate or not and all our opinions will not matter either way
It's the ones who are not isolating who need reining in, one fuckwit in Bolton who went to the pub after testing positive infected dozens and caused a spike of hundreds..
The sort of moron who gives the virus to someone and that someone then infects a loved one who may end up on a ventilator..
Fuck them, they are as bad as a person who doesn't tell a partner they have hiv..
"Fuck.. sorry to hear that.. hope you both ok.. | |||
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"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment... Gather your bubble... All with the app.. One of you put into the app that you have a temperature.. It will tell you to self isolate... None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks..." So why are you getting out the pram over something you thought was bollocks, and only deleting it as you said at the start of the thread after this story? | |||
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"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment... Gather your bubble... All with the app.. One of you put into the app that you have a temperature.. It will tell you to self isolate... None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks... So why are you getting out the pram over something you thought was bollocks, and only deleting it as you said at the start of the thread after this story?" Snooze time here | |||
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"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment... Gather your bubble... All with the app.. One of you put into the app that you have a temperature.. It will tell you to self isolate... None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks... So why are you getting out the pram over something you thought was bollocks, and only deleting it as you said at the start of the thread after this story? Snooze time here "Turn your phone camera off..  | |||
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"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment... Gather your bubble... All with the app.. One of you put into the app that you have a temperature.. It will tell you to self isolate... None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks... So why are you getting out the pram over something you thought was bollocks, and only deleting it as you said at the start of the thread after this story? Snooze time here
Turn your phone camera off.. "It's an awareness piece.. don't trust those who will abuse their powers... Zzzzzz | |||
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"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment... Gather your bubble... All with the app.. One of you put into the app that you have a temperature.. It will tell you to self isolate... None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks..." It's not supposed to in that case ...duh .. | |||
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"Apparently .. nobody has ever been sent any sort of message through this app... It's bollocks" Yes they have...there's threads on here saying they have. | |||
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"Read the press... NHS furious.. " We aren’t furious, we haven’t got time to be furious because we are knee deep in keeping people alive due to the behaviour of idiots who believe they are suffering some kind of communist take over. X | |||
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"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data. Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others. This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this " There's a problem for us all if people stop testing. | |||
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted" I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate. Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate. Cal | |||
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate. Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate. Cal" They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app. Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep. But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force... | |||
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"You all miss the point... Carry out an experiment... Gather your bubble... All with the app.. One of you put into the app that you have a temperature.. It will tell you to self isolate... None of your bubble will get a trace message... It's bollocks... So why are you getting out the pram over something you thought was bollocks, and only deleting it as you said at the start of the thread after this story? Snooze time here
Turn your phone camera off..
It's an awareness piece.. don't trust those who will abuse their powers...
Zzzzzz"Thankfully, I'm past the stage where this sort of tinhat, Trumpian conspiracy theory would annoy me. Unless you have no social media, no mobile phone, no computer, no bank account, no NHS number, no NI number, no car insurance, and mortgage or other financial agreements, the 'Feds' already know everything about you. Apart from possibly if you went to Wetherspoons last night. Oh no they'd get that from the CCTV and your phone! We live in a world full of technology used to record and track us and our preferences, at least the NHS app has a useful purpose! | |||
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate. Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate. Cal They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app. Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep. But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force... " The police or overworked and understaffed. I doubt that they have the will or manpower to "mission creep". So far as fines go. Anyone selfish enough to risk spreading a potentially fatal virus, deserves a big fine that actually impacts on them. | |||
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate. Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate. Cal They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app. Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep. But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force... " I'm not sure that uninstalling an app can really be classed as "fighting hard", and I'm not sure the freedom of "not isolating when potentially a public health risk" is worth fighting for. Cal | |||
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate. Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate. Cal They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app. Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep. But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force... I'm not sure that uninstalling an app can really be classed as "fighting hard", and I'm not sure the freedom of "not isolating when potentially a public health risk" is worth fighting for. Cal" I'm a curious sort, so I'd love to hear what 'hard fought' entailed and also what freedoms exactly have been lost? We're being asked to wear masks, stay at home and reduce contact with people. It's not exactly a concentration campus it? I thinks it's actually highly insulting to anyone who does have restricted freedom, or has fought hard for their rights. Sometimes a step back and a little perspective does wonders for us all | |||
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"And they told us it was all going to be anonymous and confidential remember ? Lies and more lies. " They? When and where was that said or written? The Ts&C's explicitly state that the information can be shared with Civil services for the purpose of public safety, and lists NHS and Police? | |||
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" It's not exactly a concentration campus " Sounds like Northumbria University, where guards prevented students from leaving their Halls of Residence ?!! | |||
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate. Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate. Cal They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app. Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep. But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force... " What sort of freedom is it to deliberately disregard the fact that a person who is positive can go out instead of isolating as told to.. The freedom to infect others.. Complete horse poop.. | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you...
Psst Tom, that phone thingie..
That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..
You don't need to have someone given access to an app.."Exactly because the moment you put your details into your phone, any app like Facebook, twitter, Instagram,"they" have your details. | |||
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"I am reminded of the old saying that starts with "First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I was not a Jew . . . . ."" If you are comparing that with the people who have tested positive being held to account so it deters some from going out knowing they may potentially put some one else in an ICU ward you need to come back to the actual reality.. No one is putting women and children in cattle cars, what sort of thought process leads a rational person to think in such a way ? | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you...
Psst Tom, that phone thingie..
That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..
You don't need to have someone given access to an app..
Exactly because the moment you put your details into your phone, any app like Facebook, twitter, Instagram,"they" have your details. "Now that is very very concerning for me... Big Brother and all that | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you...
Psst Tom, that phone thingie..
That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..
You don't need to have someone given access to an app..
Exactly because the moment you put your details into your phone, any app like Facebook, twitter, Instagram,"they" have your details.
Now that is very very concerning for me...
Big Brother and all that"It's the modern world Tom, perhaps living off grid has its benefits.. | |||
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" It's not exactly a concentration campus Sounds like Northumbria University, where guards prevented students from leaving their Halls of Residence ?!!" Chances that they university guards consulted the Police, GOV or PHE before doing that? More likely some enthusiastic but misguided people trying to help. | |||
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"I am reminded of the old saying that starts with "First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I was not a Jew . . . . ."" I'm genuinely staggered that you think the two situations are comparable. | |||
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"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate.. Especially a flawed one.. Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops... How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on... These are scary times.. " Ditto, it's not used in shops certainly not the bigger ones.. Pubs yes, signing in is equally effective.. | |||
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"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate.. Especially a flawed one.. Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops... How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on... These are scary times.. Ditto, it's not used in shops certainly not the bigger ones.. Pubs yes, signing in is equally effective.." Well twice yesterday. Once in a specialist Nike shop and once in a Adidas shop. | |||
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"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate.. Especially a flawed one.. Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops... How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on... These are scary times.. Ditto, it's not used in shops certainly not the bigger ones.. Pubs yes, signing in is equally effective.. Well twice yesterday. Once in a specialist Nike shop and once in a Adidas shop. " We went to a fabric outlet and good sanitation etc but no signing in.. | |||
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" It's not exactly a concentration campus Sounds like Northumbria University, where guards prevented students from leaving their Halls of Residence ?!! Chances that they university guards consulted the Police, GOV or PHE before doing that? More likely some enthusiastic but misguided people trying to help. "I would wonder how a security guard thinks that they have the power to restrict a student of their liberty to leave their accomodation. These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ... | |||
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"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate.. Especially a flawed one.. Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops... How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on... These are scary times.. " We have to sign into hotels, gyms etc when we arrive. It's not a big stretch for that to extend to other public places while this is happening. We've been to VA and Xtasia and scanned into both, don't see a problem with it. If this was just the UK, or EU with sets of restrictions like this, I'd see the concern. When, ever, have all the governments of the world agreed on anything? If it's some sort of conspiracy, then every government on earth is in on it. And what do they gain that they didn't have already? Nothing. If we follow the conspiracy theory through logically, surely 'they' already have all out info? Food for thought | |||
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" It's not exactly a concentration campus Sounds like Northumbria University, where guards prevented students from leaving their Halls of Residence ?!! Chances that they university guards consulted the Police, GOV or PHE before doing that? More likely some enthusiastic but misguided people trying to help.
I would wonder how a security guard thinks that they have the power to restrict a student of their liberty to leave their accomodation.
These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ...
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"How could you ever meet anyone from this site? What if they're just harvesting information and are a fully spies for the deep state? What if the secret police are laying a trap for you by pretending to be swingers but actually they're going to imprison you in a torture camp!!! Or you could be crackers? One of the two will be closer than the other "I stopped meeting about three years ago for that very reason... | |||
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You would be better deleting your Google account because that follows you everywhere. That and 30 other apps you have on your phone right now. Like every time your phone accesses a phone mast or updates your email or records every single word you say in an SMS ad-infinitum.
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" These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ... So true, people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. I would eat an egg from one of those hens!" Or rather. .staying in the room they have just moved into when leaving home for the first time, not knowing anyone, and now not allowed to meet or talk to anyone or indeed use the 'amenities and luxuries as standard' beyond their four walls as they are self isolating. In rooms that are exempt from space standards that apply to other accommodation as they are not designated as permanent dwellings Suicide is a real risk at university halls every year. This was a dick move on the part of universities chasing the cash. | |||
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"I’m more worried what Google and the others do with my information and browsing habits as they keep spamming the shit out of me with Ads. I only have to seemingly thing about something these days before getting bombarded with ads about what I’m thinking about "Facebook adverts know me better than I know myself. I weep at some of the things they want to sell me and say yes, yes I really would love that, just how did you know  | |||
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" These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ... So true, people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. I would eat an egg from one of those hens! Or rather. .staying in the room they have just moved into when leaving home for the first time, not knowing anyone, and now not allowed to meet or talk to anyone or indeed use the 'amenities and luxuries as standard' beyond their four walls as they are self isolating. In rooms that are exempt from space standards that apply to other accommodation as they are not designated as permanent dwellings Suicide is a real risk at university halls every year. This was a dick move on the part of universities chasing the cash." A relative is stuck in one of those cages at a uni and has to were ppe to have a shit and piss in the communal bathrooms and has to wear a mask to share the communal kitchen. All his lessons are online. He keeps saying he could have done this in his bedroom... | |||
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" These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ... So true, people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. I would eat an egg from one of those hens! Or rather. .staying in the room they have just moved into when leaving home for the first time, not knowing anyone, and now not allowed to meet or talk to anyone or indeed use the 'amenities and luxuries as standard' beyond their four walls as they are self isolating. In rooms that are exempt from space standards that apply to other accommodation as they are not designated as permanent dwellings Suicide is a real risk at university halls every year. This was a dick move on the part of universities chasing the cash. A relative is stuck in one of those cages at a uni and has to were ppe to have a shit and piss in the communal bathrooms and has to wear a mask to share the communal kitchen. All his lessons are online. He keeps saying he could have done this in his bedroom..." What PPE exactly is he having to wear? Other than a mask and gloves presumably...... | |||
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" These universities thought only of the 9k per person and then cage them like battery hens ... So true, people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. I would eat an egg from one of those hens! Or rather. .staying in the room they have just moved into when leaving home for the first time, not knowing anyone, and now not allowed to meet or talk to anyone or indeed use the 'amenities and luxuries as standard' beyond their four walls as they are self isolating. In rooms that are exempt from space standards that apply to other accommodation as they are not designated as permanent dwellings Suicide is a real risk at university halls every year. This was a dick move on the part of universities chasing the cash. A relative is stuck in one of those cages at a uni and has to were ppe to have a shit and piss in the communal bathrooms and has to wear a mask to share the communal kitchen. All his lessons are online. He keeps saying he could have done this in his bedroom..." And I'd agree that learning could all be done remotely, and reducing the risk caused by shared campuses etc. | |||
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" people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. " But students havent got "all amenities and luxuries". No face to face teaching, no gymns, sports clubs, open space for a walk, societies to make friends, bars, cafeterias, library etc | |||
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" people staying in the buildings they live in all year with all amenities and luxuries as standard. But students havent got "all amenities and luxuries". No face to face teaching, no gymns, sports clubs, open space for a walk, societies to make friends, bars, cafeterias, library etc" Interesting...... https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/higher-education-reopening-buildings-and-campuses/higher-education-reopening-buildings-and-campuses | |||
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"These fuckers are watching us... Stay alert .. stay safe .. But don't be fooled... I am off for nap... " You are better off following the guidelines. Stay safe but help others stay safe too and dont be selfish  | |||
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"I had to have a little giggle to myself when i read this thread. It's typical of all the misinformation that has and is being spread about mainly over the internet about Covid. The police being asked to enforce quarantine rules has absolutely nothing to do with the NHS app. It is for people that have been rung by Track and Trace and told that they have had a positive result from an actual test and then asked to self isolate. Once again, a case of "internet warriors" getting on their high horse and going off half cocked." Yup. Said exactly the same above - but the CON-spiracy folks just don't even hear it. Must be the dust bunnies rolling around inside their heads | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you... "They certainly don't need an app to do it. If I'm concerned it'll only be because I've done something wrong. | |||
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"I had to have a little giggle to myself when i read this thread. It's typical of all the misinformation that has and is being spread about mainly over the internet about Covid. The police being asked to enforce quarantine rules has absolutely nothing to do with the NHS app. It is for people that have been rung by Track and Trace and told that they have had a positive result from an actual test and then asked to self isolate. Once again, a case of "internet warriors" getting on their high horse and going off half cocked." Exactly. Misinformation and Paranoia are actually the biggest threat to our civil liberties. | |||
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"Read the press... NHS furious.. We aren’t furious, we haven’t got time to be furious because we are knee deep in keeping people alive due to the behaviour of idiots who believe they are suffering some kind of communist take over. X" Perfectly said | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same" No they don't. Bar closes at 10. Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility. | |||
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"Read the press... NHS furious.. We aren’t furious, we haven’t got time to be furious because we are knee deep in keeping people alive due to the behaviour of idiots who believe they are suffering some kind of communist take over. X Perfectly said "This. Not many NHS workers have time for this nonsense. Ignore the press, it's about making money not about truth and true information. | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same No they don't. Bar closes at 10. Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility." So why the breach reported in all the papers ? | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same No they don't. Bar closes at 10. Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility. So why the breach reported in all the papers ? That was about a month old..." So it never happened then...? | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same No they don't. Bar closes at 10. Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility. So why the breach reported in all the papers ? " It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license. | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same No they don't. Bar closes at 10. Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility. So why the breach reported in all the papers ? It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license." Funny that isn't it.. ?. One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs... | |||
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" It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license." Yup. | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same" Strangers bar is over rated..just saying... | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same No they don't. Bar closes at 10. Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility. So why the breach reported in all the papers ? It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license. Funny that isn't it.. ?. One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs..." Private clubs also have different licensing and hotels.. Educate yourself before seeing bogey men behind every thing perhaps.. | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same Strangers bar is over rated..just saying..." Had a drink in there when I was 12 - draught - yuk spit. | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same No they don't. Bar closes at 10. Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility. So why the breach reported in all the papers ? " Keep up tom this was a no news story a month ago.  | |||
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"Professor Yardley from SAGE raised concerns on the Andrew Marr show today.. Police snooping and fines will deter people from being tested.. It's the law of unintended consequences .. the Cobra effect..." Yes even the threat of police snooping,knocking at your door etc, and up to £10,000 fine, will now unfortunately stop some being tested in the first place. am not saying it's logical just saying that ,as the op says will be the consequence...some people are not keen on the police.. | |||
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"You've not met for 3 years?, convinced someone might be trying to trick you? Always looking over your shoulder for government spies following you? Getting rid of your app, because it's tracking you? "They" are trying to destroy society, but you're going to to fight for our freedoms? Have you considered talking to someone professional? This sound like it's affecting you negatively. Hope you find some help. "All true but perhaps it's affecting me positively depending on one's perspective... Just because I am paranoid does not mean that they are not after me... | |||
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"it was a draught brown soda pop that the forum robot deletes lol "Dandelion and burdock? Spent a couple of hours in there after doing a couple of tours with colleagues, subsidised ale in the centre of town..got messy.. | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same No they don't. Bar closes at 10. Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility. So why the breach reported in all the papers ? It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license. Funny that isn't it.. ?. One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs..." No it wasn't, it is completely different, irrespective of those who use it. What's your aim in this? You obviously feel aggrieved. Is it really about liberties or fundamentally some other underlying issue? It does seem strange. | |||
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"it was a draught brown soda pop that the forum robot deletes lol
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Spent a couple of hours in there after doing a couple of tours with colleagues, subsidised ale in the centre of town..got messy.."lol - the one that people stick up there nose. Same word lol. Mine was a school tour. I thought it smelled really musty and old. And two people were actually arguing quite loudly. Till they were told to leave by PoWestminster Bobbies. Great example to all the young people there. | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same No they don't. Bar closes at 10. Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility. So why the breach reported in all the papers ? It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license. Funny that isn't it.. ?. One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs... No it wasn't, it is completely different, irrespective of those who use it. What's your aim in this? You obviously feel aggrieved. Is it really about liberties or fundamentally some other underlying issue? It does seem strange." Liberties and freedoms my friend.. Liberties and freedoms .. | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same No they don't. Bar closes at 10. Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility. So why the breach reported in all the papers ? It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license. Funny that isn't it.. ?. One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs... No it wasn't, it is completely different, irrespective of those who use it. What's your aim in this? You obviously feel aggrieved. Is it really about liberties or fundamentally some other underlying issue? It does seem strange. Liberties and freedoms my friend.. Liberties and freedoms .." ...just smile & wave... | |||
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"And MPs drink all night in the commons bar, sorry restaurant, and break the rules and expect us mug punters to do the same No they don't. Bar closes at 10. Get your information correct and up to date if you want credibility. So why the breach reported in all the papers ? It was actually about the terms of the license. It didn't fall under the bar bill, however they chose to close at 10 to bring it in line with the rest so people wouldn't feel it was one rule for one and another for them, but in reality it didn't break any covid laws as it had a completely different license. Funny that isn't it.. ?. One licence for the MPs and another for the plebs... No it wasn't, it is completely different, irrespective of those who use it. What's your aim in this? You obviously feel aggrieved. Is it really about liberties or fundamentally some other underlying issue? It does seem strange. Liberties and freedoms my friend.. Liberties and freedoms .." Lol. Ironically you hand them over in more ways than Han you think with the paranoia. I'd check sources thoroughly before reacting to quickly. And if those sources prove to be questionable, don't follow those sources anymore. | |||
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"Well I heard. .now don't take this as gospel. but it's not the NHS who grasses you up to the police...it's Sydney University.." But if you put the warning into the app you are protected from the feds apparently. Again don't take it as gospel. | |||
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"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data. Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others. This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this There's a problem for us all if people stop testing. "
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"Apparently .. nobody has ever been sent any sort of message through this app... It's bollocks" I know people who have been told to isolate because of the app... | |||
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"Apparently .. nobody has ever been sent any sort of message through this app... It's bollocks I know people who have been told to isolate because of the app..." People are advised to isolate - track and trace don't get that info' through the app unless you go get a test and are positive. | |||
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"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data. Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others. This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.
It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops. "An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship.. Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ? | |||
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"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data. Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others. This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.
It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.
An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..
Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?
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"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data. Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others. This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.
It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.
An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..
Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?
Those who grab a Headline and don't find the Story then run off wailing about liberty are 'flawed'. Totally. "We are all flawed I would imagine.. | |||
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"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data. Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others. This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.
It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.
An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..
Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?
Those who grab a Headline and don't find the Story then run off wailing about liberty are 'flawed'. Totally.
We are all flawed I would imagine.. "Yet some are compelled to promote and amplify misinformation whilst others refrain and may even try to correct the misinformation. | |||
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"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data. Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others. This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.
It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.
An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..
Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?
"Now that's an interesting point. There is only one truth, it's part of the description. Whether any of us know it is another thing entirely. All we can do is decide on our threshold for evidence when we state something as 'fact' or 'truth'. The pandemic has given rise to a lot of opinions dressed as facts, with little to no substantive evidence. I think most reasonable people are happy to have different opinions than others. What grates, is when the other opinion is clearly utter non sense that can't be supported. Amazingly, when challenged, a lot of the sources of these truths reframe the conversation to other topics rather than debate the facts of the subject at hand. People are fascinating creatures...... | |||
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"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data. Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others. This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.
It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.
An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..
Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?
Those who grab a Headline and don't find the Story then run off wailing about liberty are 'flawed'. Totally.
We are all flawed I would imagine.. "Clearly not one to take on board good advice and critically asses something without just spitting out something just to pat the ego, so not worth continuing with this nonsense. | |||
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"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data. Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others. This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.
It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.
An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..
Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?
Now that's an interesting point. There is only one truth, it's part of the description. Whether any of us know it is another thing entirely. All we can do is decide on our threshold for evidence when we state something as 'fact' or 'truth'. The pandemic has given rise to a lot of opinions dressed as facts, with little to no substantive evidence. I think most reasonable people are happy to have different opinions than others. What grates, is when the other opinion is clearly utter non sense that can't be supported. Amazingly, when challenged, a lot of the sources of these truths reframe the conversation to other topics rather than debate the facts of the subject at hand.
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"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data. Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others. This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.
It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.
An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..
Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?
Now that's an interesting point. There is only one truth, it's part of the description. Whether any of us know it is another thing entirely. All we can do is decide on our threshold for evidence when we state something as 'fact' or 'truth'. The pandemic has given rise to a lot of opinions dressed as facts, with little to no substantive evidence. I think most reasonable people are happy to have different opinions than others. What grates, is when the other opinion is clearly utter non sense that can't be supported. Amazingly, when challenged, a lot of the sources of these truths reframe the conversation to other topics rather than debate the facts of the subject at hand.
People are fascinating creatures...... "We are.. Vivre La Difference.. In life.. there is somebody for everyone.. well almost | |||
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"Read what the app can do and what it does with your data. Then read what specific data, from what source, may be shared with the police amongst others. This is a non-story. There's a problem for all of us if people don't isolate for the appropriate time period. The law requires them to and they may be fined. It's not app data doing this There's a problem for us all if people stop testing.
It's important that people aren't deterred from testing, especially if inaccurate information gets put out there that erodes public trust even further. It's a pity in many ways that fab doesn't delete inaccurate posts, even though we users may correct the ops.
An interesting view which I respect.. but who decides what the truth is? Is there one truth? Is that approach about the truth or censorship..
Perhaps censor the views of all anti vaxers.. after all. Their views are flawed right ?
Those who grab a Headline and don't find the Story then run off wailing about liberty are 'flawed'. Totally.
We are all flawed I would imagine..
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you...
Psst Tom, that phone thingie..
That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..
You don't need to have someone given access to an app..
Exactly because the moment you put your details into your phone, any app like Facebook, twitter, Instagram,"they" have your details.
Now that is very very concerning for me...
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted Well its the possessive test information that could be available to them not the NHS data so don't panic it might be a good idea not to take facebook stuff as gospel. "So now we're been tested for demonic possession too! When will this madness end..I can't cope..my head's spinning...  | |||
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"There are some people not taking this serious... "Deleting your app because you half read a story is taking it serious then? | |||
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"There are some people not taking this serious...
So, fair's fair. What exactly are people not taking seriously. Explain the point, and the evidence that led you there, and how this app is different from other apps, tech etc you may already have.
If you've got a valid point that people are missing, win them other with a well thought out argument."You sound like this is a court of law | |||
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"There are some people not taking this serious...
So, fair's fair. What exactly are people not taking seriously. Explain the point, and the evidence that led you there, and how this app is different from other apps, tech etc you may already have.
If you've got a valid point that people are missing, win them other with a well thought out argument.
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"There are some people not taking this serious...
So, fair's fair. What exactly are people not taking seriously. Explain the point, and the evidence that led you there, and how this app is different from other apps, tech etc you may already have.
If you've got a valid point that people are missing, win them other with a well thought out argument.
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"There are some people not taking this serious...
So, fair's fair. What exactly are people not taking seriously. Explain the point, and the evidence that led you there, and how this app is different from other apps, tech etc you may already have.
If you've got a valid point that people are missing, win them other with a well thought out argument.
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"Yes and everyone is entitled to their opinion.. a Indeed they are. It's my opinion that you got your facts all wrong - happens to be the FACT too. " Let me make it easy for you.. Some people think it's a fact that Brexit is a bad thing.. Some people believe that it is a fact that Trump is a bad thing.. My opinion is that both are not true.. that's why I voted Brexit and if I could I would vote for Trumpy... There is fact and there is opinion.. FACT | |||
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"Yes and everyone is entitled to their opinion.. a Indeed they are. It's my opinion that you got your facts all wrong - happens to be the FACT too. Let me make it easy for you.. Some people think it's a fact that Brexit is a bad thing.. Some people believe that it is a fact that Trump is a bad thing.. My opinion is that both are not true.. that's why I voted Brexit and if I could I would vote for Trumpy... There is fact and there is opinion.. FACT " Well as long as we're all on the same page now! | |||
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"No..your freedoms" You mean the freedom to not self isolate when you have covid? My 'freedom' is mine to do what I want with and I an happily using the NHS app and have no issue with it as I'm neither paranoid or misinformed. | |||
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"Yes and everyone is entitled to their opinion.. a Indeed they are. It's my opinion that you got your facts all wrong - happens to be the FACT too. Let me make it easy for you.. Some people think it's a fact that Brexit is a bad thing.. Some people believe that it is a fact that Trump is a bad thing.. My opinion is that both are not true.. that's why I voted Brexit and if I could I would vote for Trumpy... There is fact and there is opinion.. FACT " No. Actually go back to the OP (your OP) you said . . . The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted Many people here said . . . the app does not report on you. Track and Trace ONLY know about YOU when YOU present yourself and are found positive . . .the POLICE (if they get a report that you have broken isolation) can check with track and trace to see if you are supposed to be isolating. And then those people said you have deleted the app without understanding how it works properly. | |||
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"Let me put it another way... Two cars race ... One car is from America.. One is from the old USSR.. Two papers report the result.. USA today.. The Americans beat the Russians in the car rally The Soviet Weekly The Russians came second and the USA next to last.. So what is the truth.. ? " Let me put it like this. Try to rely on credible news sources without an obvious bias or agenda. Corroboration of reported events will assist you. Truth is the property of being in accord with fact or reality, or truth is usually held to be the opposite of falsity. I hope you don't have problems discerning reality. | |||
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"Let me put it another way... Two cars race ... One car is from America.. One is from the old USSR.. Two papers report the result.. USA today.. The Americans beat the Russians in the car rally The Soviet Weekly The Russians came second and the USA next to last.. So what is the truth.. ? Let me put it like this. Try to rely on credible news sources without an obvious bias or agenda. Corroboration of reported events will assist you. Truth is the property of being in accord with fact or reality, or truth is usually held to be the opposite of falsity. I hope you don't have problems discerning reality." No but I have a problem deciphering nonsense... | |||
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"Let me put it another way... Two cars race ... One car is from America.. One is from the old USSR.. Two papers report the result.. USA today.. The Americans beat the Russians in the car rally The Soviet Weekly The Russians came second and the USA next to last.. So what is the truth.. ? Let me put it like this. Try to rely on credible news sources without an obvious bias or agenda. Corroboration of reported events will assist you. Truth is the property of being in accord with fact or reality, or truth is usually held to be the opposite of falsity. I hope you don't have problems discerning reality. No but I have a problem deciphering nonsense..." But no problem reading and repeating it as fact........ It's been a blast! | |||
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"Let me put it another way... Two cars race ... One car is from America.. One is from the old USSR.. Two papers report the result.. USA today.. The Americans beat the Russians in the car rally The Soviet Weekly The Russians came second and the USA next to last.. So what is the truth.. ? Let me put it like this. Try to rely on credible news sources without an obvious bias or agenda. Corroboration of reported events will assist you. Truth is the property of being in accord with fact or reality, or truth is usually held to be the opposite of falsity. I hope you don't have problems discerning reality. No but I have a problem deciphering nonsense..." Have another go, you got this. | |||
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"To try and round this off, we're all guilty of being passionate about what we believe, even if we're wrong. It's good to see people fighting for their opinions in a public forum, debate and opinions can often improve everyone's understanding, which can't be a bad thing. I hope everyone is having a good day and an even better evening " | |||
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"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate.. Especially a flawed one.. Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops... How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on... These are scary times.. " I'm fine with that | |||
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"The point is this... I don't need an app to self isolate.. Especially a flawed one.. Having to sign in at pubs, restaurants and shops... How comfy will some be when the swingers club reopen and you put your QR code reader on... These are scary times.. We have to sign into hotels, gyms etc when we arrive. It's not a big stretch for that to extend to other public places while this is happening. We've been to VA and Xtasia and scanned into both, don't see a problem with it. If this was just the UK, or EU with sets of restrictions like this, I'd see the concern. When, ever, have all the governments of the world agreed on anything? If it's some sort of conspiracy, then every government on earth is in on it. And what do they gain that they didn't have already? Nothing. If we follow the conspiracy theory through logically, surely 'they' already have all out info? Food for thought " | |||
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"These fuckers are watching us... Stay alert .. stay safe .. But don't be fooled... I am off for nap... " Dont forget to nap with one eye open... | |||
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"Yes and everyone is entitled to their opinion.. a Indeed they are. It's my opinion that you got your facts all wrong - happens to be the FACT too. Let me make it easy for you.. Some people think it's a fact that Brexit is a bad thing.. Some people believe that it is a fact that Trump is a bad thing.. My opinion is that both are not true.. that's why I voted Brexit and if I could I would vote for Trumpy... There is fact and there is opinion.. FACT " Shock horror! Who'd have guessed??? | |||
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted I'm not sure about "The Feds" but it has been announced that our very own police will be told on a case by case basis if someone has been instructed to self isolate. What that means that if a person is suspected by the police of being told to isolate, the police can ask the holders of the data whether you have been told to isolate. Uninstalling the app just suggests that you wouldn't conform if told to isolate. Cal They can fine me for not self isolating but they can't fine me for not installing the app. Freedoms were hard fought and easily lost.. I don't trust these buggers not to mission creep. But I know the, 'if you have nothing to hide brigade' will be out in force... I'm not sure that uninstalling an app can really be classed as "fighting hard", and I'm not sure the freedom of "not isolating when potentially a public health risk" is worth fighting for. Cal I'm a curious sort, so I'd love to hear what 'hard fought' entailed and also what freedoms exactly have been lost? We're being asked to wear masks, stay at home and reduce contact with people. It's not exactly a concentration campus it? I thinks it's actually highly insulting to anyone who does have restricted freedom, or has fought hard for their rights. Sometimes a step back and a little perspective does wonders for us all "Love this.... Dead heads wake up!!! It's going to be a long winter. | |||
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"No..your freedoms Mine? They're ok ta.. Certainly won't be affected by by you deleting an app..
But if they want to watch you...
Psst Tom, that phone thingie..
That's how anyone can 'watch you', target you with adverts after you do a search, locate you using the same tech..
You don't need to have someone given access to an app.."This | |||
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Joking aside, we live in a digital world, and leave a digital footprint everywhere we go across many disparate systems. Finding someone is ridiculously easy if the authorities need to. Coupled with machine learning and AI, it's a doddle.
(I'm not a conspiracy nut. Science geek with some surveillance background. Sounds glamorous but in reality it's quite dull. Left the field 20 years ago.)
I would advise if you are seeking to lay low, don't advertise it to all and sundry. That's a red-flag for a start.
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"Has anyone ever heard the phrase "interlectualy beating someone up"
No but I have heard the phrase 'intellectually beating someone up' hope that helps "Disciples | |||
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"Has anyone ever heard the phrase "interlectualy beating someone up"
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"get rid of mobile phones, dont have smart tvs, and drive old classic cars and never have a smart meter either" I will never ever agree to have a smart meter installed... Evil things | |||
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"get rid of mobile phones, dont have smart tvs, and drive old classic cars and never have a smart meter either" And wear tin foil on your head. | |||
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"The feds have been given our data on the NHS app Fuck that... Deleted" Never downloaded. Win win | |||
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