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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one?" 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too!" If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. " But you do tho by asking those who choose not to wear one to justify themselves 
Whether anyone has a valid reason or not it has nothing to do with anyone
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" By LogJamFind posts by LogJam Man 2 hours ago Chicago Well they are not compulsory over here nation wise yet but strangely people with breathing difficulties do wear then to protect themselves. I wonder if its being told to wear one that is an issue with many that is the issue. " This I totally agree with  | |||
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"Yes I do, have started wearing it all the time when I'm out now "Same here sami   | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. " Perhaps a few examples of medical conditions which preclude the use of face coverings might help us poor healthy folk understand what is the issue. I've seen several people quite asthma but the website asthmauk says it's NOT an excuse and I'd have to agree as my wife is asthmatic and has absolutely no problem wearing a face covering in fact I hate them more than she does. It's odd that people can't just park in disabled spaces and tell the police it's none of their business why though. | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. But you do tho by asking those who choose not to wear one to justify themselves
Whether anyone has a valid reason or not it has nothing to do with anyone
"Exactly! No ones business people shouldn't have to justify why they dont wear one ! X | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask. "No there are far more reasons than those 2 x | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. Perhaps a few examples of medical conditions which preclude the use of face coverings might help us poor healthy folk understand what is the issue. I've seen several people quite asthma but the website asthmauk says it's NOT an excuse and I'd have to agree as my wife is asthmatic and has absolutely no problem wearing a face covering in fact I hate them more than she does. It's odd that people can't just park in disabled spaces and tell the police it's none of their business why though." Brilliant analogy | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x"Wish someone would tell me what they are! | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are! "Google will help you, but since you personally think there are only 2 real reasons for not wearing one I probably wouldn't bother | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. But you do tho by asking those who choose not to wear one to justify themselves
Whether anyone has a valid reason or not it has nothing to do with anyone
Exactly! No ones business people shouldn't have to justify why they dont wear one ! X"Surely if a person's actions are endangered the lives of others, there should be some form of social responsibility. If you were to drive your car recklessly and cause harm to another, you would expect there to be justice. Just because the rules have a grey area which allows the rules to be easily flouted, does not mean the actions are no less reckless. | |||
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"Please will someone name these reasons! "Why do u need to know? Is really no one else's business but the persons who dont wear them! To many Kevin's and Karen's around! X | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. But you do tho by asking those who choose not to wear one to justify themselves
Whether anyone has a valid reason or not it has nothing to do with anyone
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. But you do tho by asking those who choose not to wear one to justify themselves
Whether anyone has a valid reason or not it has nothing to do with anyone
Exactly! No ones business people shouldn't have to justify why they dont wear one ! X
Surely if a person's actions are endangered the lives of others, there should be some form of social responsibility.
If you were to drive your car recklessly and cause harm to another, you would expect there to be justice.
Just because the rules have a grey area which allows the rules to be easily flouted, does not mean the actions are no less reckless. "Social responsibility yes but expecting or even having the idea that people should explain themselves to some random person on the internet or anywhere else no. You can not compare a car accident to an invisible virus  | |||
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"Yes I do, have started wearing it all the time when I'm out now
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. But you do tho by asking those who choose not to wear one to justify themselves
Whether anyone has a valid reason or not it has nothing to do with anyone
Exactly! No ones business people shouldn't have to justify why they dont wear one ! X"So they don't have to answer then...simple | |||
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"Ive asmath and autoimmune problems but still ware a mask ,ive seen people with portable oxygen with masks on ,so no exscuse for people with asthma not to ware one .." And still no one elses business!! X | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. I've seen several people quite asthma but the website asthmauk says it's NOT an excuse and I'd have to agree as my wife is asthmatic and has absolutely no problem wearing a face covering in fact I hate them more than she does. " Your wife is lucky then, my mother in law has lung cancer and asthma, her lung cancer is inoperatable because it is in her only “good” lung. She is one person who cannot wear a face mask as she would suffocate even if she wore it for more than a few minutes as her lung power is so depleted. What people like you do not realise is how discouraging it is for people who are struggling to live to be questioned by all and sundry and be expected to were a tag explaining they are on death's door or other types of abuse because they don't wear a mask. As for what Asthma UK state their website says "There isn’t a blanket rule about face covering exemptions for everyone with asthma. But if you find it impossible to wear a face covering for health reasons, you don’t have to wear one. An example of this might be if a mask makes you too breathless." | |||
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" You can not compare a car accident to an invisible virus "Is it not my right to be able to make any comparison I like when my comparison isn't inciting harm to others, and I am sure a microscopic virus will not get offended by such a comparison. comparing irresponsible actions when the outcome is the same is an apology.. It's like saying that driving too fast is perfectly safe because you have never injured anybody, therefore it's got to be safe.. You never saw the person who had to swerve to avoid you and who ended up crashing, so you continue thinking that speeding is perfectly safe.. The responsibility for your actions are yours alone and if you do not consider the direct and indirect consequences of your actions, then that an act of irresponsibility. | |||
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"Of course I wear a face mask, it stops me having to shave everyday " | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. I've seen several people quite asthma but the website asthmauk says it's NOT an excuse and I'd have to agree as my wife is asthmatic and has absolutely no problem wearing a face covering in fact I hate them more than she does. Your wife is lucky then, my mother in law has lung cancer and asthma, her lung cancer is inoperatable because it is in her only “good” lung. She is one person who cannot wear a face mask as she would suffocate even if she wore it for more than a few minutes as her lung power is so depleted. What people like you do not realise is how discouraging it is for people who are struggling to live to be questioned by all and sundry and be expected to were a tag explaining they are on death's door or other types of abuse because they don't wear a mask. As for what Asthma UK state their website says "There isn’t a blanket rule about face covering exemptions for everyone with asthma. But if you find it impossible to wear a face covering for health reasons, you don’t have to wear one. An example of this might be if a mask makes you too breathless." " I would have thought your mother in law would struggle just walking around regardless off a face mask so wouldn’t be going to shops etc so wearing a face mask must surely be irrelevant to her? | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Google will help you, but since you personally think there are only 2 real reasons for not wearing one I probably wouldn't bother "It was an NHS staff member who told me, not I "personally think". I only asked a question! Why are you so defensive? | |||
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"I am exempt so I don't have to. I suffer with respiratory issues so not ideal. It don't stop me wearing a mask though though it makes breathing sometimes more of an issue. But I respect and care for other peoples health I am not a born again twat. " Bravo. Love that. | |||
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"I am exempt so I don't have to. I suffer with respiratory issues so not ideal. It don't stop me wearing a mask though though it makes breathing sometimes more of an issue. But I respect and care for other peoples health I am not a born again twat. " So your exemptions bollocks then? Oh and in question to your answer... what are you?! | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one?" Yes I wear one | |||
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"The face masks are mainly to protect others from you. I can understand many have reasons not to wear one, but what do you do if you develop a cough or temperature or loss of smell? Do you still go out without a mask?" I'm sure there are some who will ignore the signs and still go out rather than isolating. I'm more concerned about those who are asymptomatic, that's pretty scary.. A good friend contracted covid right at the start of lockdown, she caught it off her grandson who wasn't aware he had it at the time.. she died a few weeks later. Her grandson now lives with the personal guilt that he was responsible. | |||
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"Ive asmath and autoimmune problems but still ware a mask ,ive seen people with portable oxygen with masks on ,so no exscuse for people with asthma not to ware one .. And still no one elses business!! X" The lady chose to express her opinion | |||
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"The face masks are mainly to protect others from you. I can understand many have reasons not to wear one, but what do you do if you develop a cough or temperature or loss of smell? Do you still go out without a mask?" No you shouldn’t need to where a mask because you should be isolating. | |||
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Aye.
I wear a mask.
Even my 2yr old son can wear one, and he's got the attention span of some of the cretins in here.
So grow up ya bunch o' limpits, put a mask on and stop making things up.
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too!" Fuck me, barrel of laughs ain't ya  | |||
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"Ive asmath and autoimmune problems but still ware a mask ,ive seen people with portable oxygen with masks on ,so no exscuse for people with asthma not to ware one .. And still no one elses business!! X The lady chose to express her opinion" As did I x | |||
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"I don't wear a mask because it's against my freedom. I don't want to wear one and no one can make me. They don't work anyway, I can breathe through the fabric easily, so I know tiny elements can still get through, so what's the point? If anyone in a shop tells me to wear one, I call them a 'Karen' and it makes me feel really good. If I catch it, I'll be fine because I'm healthy. And I don't care about old people and fat people and those ones with that tube thingy that's a bit like Dark Vaider All of my friend share articles online and I've done more studyying than most scientisters. I'm a sovereign citizen and it's against my first constitutional right as a citizen of earth. This Bill Gates virus is fake news. It's all a lie to help the aliens stop us from lip reading each other when we're all tied up. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
Aye.
I wear a mask.
Even my 2yr old son can wear one, and he's got the attention span of some of the cretins in here.
So grow up ya bunch o' limpits, put a mask on and stop making things up.
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. But you do tho by asking those who choose not to wear one to justify themselves
Whether anyone has a valid reason or not it has nothing to do with anyone
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"Ive asmath and autoimmune problems but still ware a mask ,ive seen people with portable oxygen with masks on ,so no exscuse for people with asthma not to ware one .." The irony being that it is low CO2 that is trigger for asthma in many cases. One of the treatments for asthma is to build up CO2 levels -Matt | |||
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"Well said Tom and Lisa. I don't wear one, simply because it's all bollox and scaremongering. If masks work then there's no need to distance. If distancing works then there's no need for masks. Clearly neither work and neither do lockdowns. Remove restrictions, end the pointless lockdowns, learn to live with the virus and we're back to normal overnight. " I suggest you read Tom and Lisa’s thread again. Carefully. I agree with them and as you do too, you’ll be wearing a mask in future | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too!" Thats just bullshit and anyone who responds like that has basically fuck all wrong with them | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! Thats just bullshit and anyone who responds like that has basically fuck all wrong with them" *physically anyway | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! Thats just bullshit and anyone who responds like that has basically fuck all wrong with them *physically anyway" | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons " Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! "no there are loads of valid reasons not to have to wear a mask the above is just a sample there at least 20 other reasons Hypoxia ,Hyperhydrosis, Lund disease , panic attack , lung cancer , pleurisy , | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! no there are loads of valid reasons not to have to wear a mask the above is just a sample there at least 20 other reasons Hypoxia ,Hyperhydrosis, Lund disease , panic attack , lung cancer , pleurisy , "Ahhh I see. You meant illnesses that force you to isolate. You're right, if you're in isolation you don't need to wear one. Just don't let these folks out! Isolate them by force, to protect themselves from themselves. Or they could wear a visor? | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! no there are loads of valid reasons not to have to wear a mask the above is just a sample there at least 20 other reasons Hypoxia ,Hyperhydrosis, Lund disease , panic attack , lung cancer , pleurisy ,
Ahhh I see. You meant illnesses that force you to isolate. You're right, if you're in isolation you don't need to wear one. Just don't let these folks out! Isolate them by force, to protect themselves from themselves. Or they could wear a visor? "These reasons you can go out without a mask there’s plenty more | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! no there are loads of valid reasons not to have to wear a mask the above is just a sample there at least 20 other reasons Hypoxia ,Hyperhydrosis, Lund disease , panic attack , lung cancer , pleurisy ,
Ahhh I see. You meant illnesses that force you to isolate. You're right, if you're in isolation you don't need to wear one. Just don't let these folks out! Isolate them by force, to protect themselves from themselves. Or they could wear a visor? These reasons you can go out without a mask there’s plenty more "Why don't they wear a visor then? What diseases stop that! These are the folk who need protection, surely? | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! no there are loads of valid reasons not to have to wear a mask the above is just a sample there at least 20 other reasons Hypoxia ,Hyperhydrosis, Lund disease , panic attack , lung cancer , pleurisy ,
Ahhh I see. You meant illnesses that force you to isolate. You're right, if you're in isolation you don't need to wear one. Just don't let these folks out! Isolate them by force, to protect themselves from themselves. Or they could wear a visor? These reasons you can go out without a mask there’s plenty more
Why don't they wear a visor then? What diseases stop that! These are the folk who need protection, surely? "There’s plenty more reasons visors are totally useless | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! no there are loads of valid reasons not to have to wear a mask the above is just a sample there at least 20 other reasons Hypoxia ,Hyperhydrosis, Lund disease , panic attack , lung cancer , pleurisy ,
Ahhh I see. You meant illnesses that force you to isolate. You're right, if you're in isolation you don't need to wear one. Just don't let these folks out! Isolate them by force, to protect themselves from themselves. Or they could wear a visor? These reasons you can go out without a mask there’s plenty more
Why don't they wear a visor then? What diseases stop that! These are the folk who need protection, surely? There’s plenty more reasons visors are totally useless "Have you told this to the health services who wear them? You need to educate the medical profession. Btw, I'm covered by your list of "exemptions" but I wear a mask to protect others | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! no there are loads of valid reasons not to have to wear a mask the above is just a sample there at least 20 other reasons Hypoxia ,Hyperhydrosis, Lund disease , panic attack , lung cancer , pleurisy ,
Ahhh I see. You meant illnesses that force you to isolate. You're right, if you're in isolation you don't need to wear one. Just don't let these folks out! Isolate them by force, to protect themselves from themselves. Or they could wear a visor? These reasons you can go out without a mask there’s plenty more
Why don't they wear a visor then? What diseases stop that! These are the folk who need protection, surely? There’s plenty more reasons visors are totally useless
Have you told this to the health services who wear them? You need to educate the medical profession. Btw, I'm covered by your list of "exemptions" but I wear a mask to protect others "Good for you | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! no there are loads of valid reasons not to have to wear a mask the above is just a sample there at least 20 other reasons Hypoxia ,Hyperhydrosis, Lund disease , panic attack , lung cancer , pleurisy ,
Ahhh I see. You meant illnesses that force you to isolate. You're right, if you're in isolation you don't need to wear one. Just don't let these folks out! Isolate them by force, to protect themselves from themselves. Or they could wear a visor? These reasons you can go out without a mask there’s plenty more
Why don't they wear a visor then? What diseases stop that! These are the folk who need protection, surely? There’s plenty more reasons visors are totally useless
Have you told this to the health services who wear them? You need to educate the medical profession. Btw, I'm covered by your list of "exemptions" but I wear a mask to protect others Good for you "Thx. Im just a normal fella, who does his tiny bit to try and help. | |||
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"Police . Why aren't you wearing a seatbelt You. I'm exempt Police . Why You .none of your business Police. Here's your £100 fixed penalty notice Time to get tough on those suffering from idontcareism" But they're "entitled" | |||
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"Police . Why aren't you wearing a seatbelt You. I'm exempt Police . Why You .none of your business Police. Here's your £100 fixed penalty notice Time to get tough on those suffering from idontcareism But they're "entitled" "In my opinion anyone not wearing a mask is a criminal (also in the eyes of the law), no better than a shoplifter or thief and should be held accountable. We're far too soft with them. Get it done !!! | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100" Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100" £100 for not wearing one and £1000 for refusing to wear one when challenged would be a start. Exemptions should be proven not assumed | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt " Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt " If people genuinely can't wear a mask, they should be kept away from the the rest of society. Anyone without a mask should be prosecuted. | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt If people genuinely can't wear a mask, they should be kept away from the the rest of society. Anyone without a mask should be prosecuted. "making your own rules up ?? There 30 plus exemptions that are lawful | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt If people genuinely can't wear a mask, they should be kept away from the the rest of society. Anyone without a mask should be prosecuted. making your own rules up ?? There 30 plus exemptions that are lawful "My rules so I don't risk their health. And yes, if they break the law, they shoulders be treated like everyone else. The truth is that 99.9%,can wear a mask. I just get sick of entitled covidiots, risking other people's health. | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt If people genuinely can't wear a mask, they should be kept away from the the rest of society. Anyone without a mask should be prosecuted. making your own rules up ?? There 30 plus exemptions that are lawful
My rules so I don't risk their health. And yes, if they break the law, they shoulders be treated like everyone else. The truth is that 99.9%,can wear a mask. I just get sick of entitled covidiots, risking other people's health. "Where did you get your figures from that 99 per cent can wear masks ?? | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt If people genuinely can't wear a mask, they should be kept away from the the rest of society. Anyone without a mask should be prosecuted. making your own rules up ?? There 30 plus exemptions that are lawful
My rules so I don't risk their health. And yes, if they break the law, they shoulders be treated like everyone else. The truth is that 99.9%,can wear a mask. I just get sick of entitled covidiots, risking other people's health. Where did you get your figures from that 99 per cent can wear masks ??" | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt If people genuinely can't wear a mask, they should be kept away from the the rest of society. Anyone without a mask should be prosecuted. making your own rules up ?? There 30 plus exemptions that are lawful "Nobody is arguing about the legality of exemptions, it's the tossers that "claim" to be exempt that are fit as butchers dogs. Although Asthma UK clearly state that having asthma is isn't reason to not wear face covering. Sorry documents or mask period. | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt If people genuinely can't wear a mask, they should be kept away from the the rest of society. Anyone without a mask should be prosecuted. making your own rules up ?? There 30 plus exemptions that are lawful
My rules so I don't risk their health. And yes, if they break the law, they shoulders be treated like everyone else. The truth is that 99.9%,can wear a mask. I just get sick of entitled covidiots, risking other people's health. Where did you get your figures from that 99 per cent can wear masks ??"The same paper as your info that says this isn't correct. Please enlighten me on the exact percentage | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt If people genuinely can't wear a mask, they should be kept away from the the rest of society. Anyone without a mask should be prosecuted. making your own rules up ?? There 30 plus exemptions that are lawful
Nobody is arguing about the legality of exemptions, it's the tossers that "claim" to be exempt that are fit as butchers dogs.
Although Asthma UK clearly state that having asthma is isn't reason to not wear face covering.
Sorry documents or mask period."Does the site still have a link to print out a exemption certificate? | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. But you do tho by asking those who choose not to wear one to justify themselves
Whether anyone has a valid reason or not it has nothing to do with anyone
"I appreciate what you are saying but the argument is that the health and safety of the nation and saving lives comes above whether people should disclose their exemption or not. Trouble is to many people are making out they have an exemption when in fact they do t. It's the way people are in this country and please don't ask me for my evidence on this. It's fact. You only have To go along to my local corner shop to see it happening. | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. But you do tho by asking those who choose not to wear one to justify themselves
Whether anyone has a valid reason or not it has nothing to do with anyone
I appreciate what you are saying but the argument is that the health and safety of the nation and saving lives comes above whether people should disclose their exemption or not. Trouble is to many people are making out they have an exemption when in fact they do t. It's the way people are in this country and please don't ask me for my evidence on this. It's fact. You only have To go along to my local corner shop to see it happening. "This is the action we need ... Quote from the metro newspaper Four members of the same family who tried to use forged disabled badges to avoid paying £12 for parking have been fined almost £3,000. Te**" **er, 71, and his wife D***rah, 56, made copies of his mother and uncle’s disabled parking badges by scanning them and printing them out at the library, Portsmouth Magistrates’ Court heard. | |||
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"Police . Why aren't you wearing a seatbelt You. I'm exempt Police . Why You .none of your business Police. Here's your £100 fixed penalty notice Time to get tough on those suffering from idontcareism But they're "entitled"
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 £100 for not wearing one and £1000 for refusing to wear one when challenged would be a start. Exemptions should be proven not assumed" What a load of bull! | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield" Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" "That's why they won't wear visors. Surely if they're ill, they'd be happy to be protected. The covidiots have ruined it for the vulnerable people now, with all this "but I don't want to wear a mask" | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 £100 for not wearing one and £1000 for refusing to wear one when challenged would be a start. Exemptions should be proven not assumed What a load of bull!" Why ? Do you support criminal activity ? | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" "Those that are exempt legally do not have to wear a face mask | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" Those that are exempt legally do not have to wear a face mask "What I'm saying is nobody believes anyone without a mask now! | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 £100 for not wearing one and £1000 for refusing to wear one when challenged would be a start. Exemptions should be proven not assumed What a load of bull! Why ? Do you support criminal activity ?" Because people with disabilities should not b singled out ! Should not have to prove anything! | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" Those that are exempt legally do not have to wear a face mask
What I'm saying is nobody believes anyone without a mask now! "Or maybe some people should just mind their business? | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" Those that are exempt legally do not have to wear a face mask
What I'm saying is nobody believes anyone without a mask now!
Or maybe some people should just mind their business?"Well butt out then! | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" Those that are exempt legally do not have to wear a face mask
What I'm saying is nobody believes anyone without a mask now!
Or maybe some people should just mind their business?
Well butt out then! "I will ig u will! | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 £100 for not wearing one and £1000 for refusing to wear one when challenged would be a start. Exemptions should be proven not assumed What a load of bull! Why ? Do you support criminal activity ?" Do you? | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 £100 for not wearing one and £1000 for refusing to wear one when challenged would be a start. Exemptions should be proven not assumed What a load of bull! Why ? Do you support criminal activity ? Do you? " I’ll crack on without your answer, your point is that you don’t and cast judgement on others.... your trip out to Ards Pensinsula where you were “nearly busted” could have been considered an offence. People in glass houses.... | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" Those that are exempt legally do not have to wear a face mask
What I'm saying is nobody believes anyone without a mask now!
Or maybe some people should just mind their business?
Well butt out then!
I will ig u will! "Not like discussion and debate then? I do. You don't have to follow my lead and only do things if I do! | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" Those that are exempt legally do not have to wear a face mask
What I'm saying is nobody believes anyone without a mask now!
Or maybe some people should just mind their business?
Well butt out then!
I will ig u will!
Not like discussion and debate then? I do. You don't have to follow my lead and only do things if I do! "Love a good debate yes! And I sure wouldn't follow your lead lol! | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. But you do tho by asking those who choose not to wear one to justify themselves
Whether anyone has a valid reason or not it has nothing to do with anyone
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one?" Yes without fail. | |||
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"If you can't /won't wear a mask when in public and can't social distance, why not wear a full face visor? Any thoughts? No problems then? "I found masks too hot on my face.. I wear a visor now which is great | |||
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"I am exempt so I don't have to. I suffer with respiratory issues so not ideal. It don't stop me wearing a mask though though it makes breathing sometimes more of an issue. But I respect and care for other peoples health I am not a born again twat. So your exemptions bollocks then? Oh and in question to your answer... what are you?!" Why is it bollocks ? The poster has pointed out that although they COULD use a medical exemption they choose not to as they are choosing to try to think of the majority, as opposed to just themselves. Would masks help if everybody who DIDNT have a genuine exemption, actually wear them - I’ve no idea. But until you try you don’t know - process of elimination. Yes people are sick of the contradictory advice/rules etc etc - but the “fuck it I’m alright jack” attitude so prevalent in society is PERHAPS contributing to a second spike. And how many of the people who are ignoring advice/rules were stood outside supermarkets slagging off other people for stockpiling earlier in the year? Would they be the same people who if THEY, or somebody close to them, fell seriously ill with Covid because they’d been in contact with people who didn’t think the rules should apply to them, would then be complaining that people had been selfish? | |||
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"Well said Tom and Lisa. I don't wear one, simply because it's all bollox and scaremongering. If masks work then there's no need to distance. If distancing works then there's no need for masks. Clearly neither work and neither do lockdowns. Remove restrictions, end the pointless lockdowns, learn to live with the virus and we're back to normal overnight. " Yet another Individual who can't read to the end. Similar to the guys who don't read your profile and still message you! | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100" Try a visor.. Or different masks. I wear glasses and my masks don't make my glasses steam up. | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" Those that are exempt legally do not have to wear a face mask
What I'm saying is nobody believes anyone without a mask now!
Or maybe some people should just mind their business?
Well butt out then!
I will ig u will!
Not like discussion and debate then? I do. You don't have to follow my lead and only do things if I do!
Love a good debate yes! And I sure wouldn't follow your lead lol!"I don't believe you like a discussion when you say "mind your own business" And you openly say "I will if you do" You need to think carefully about what you say if you want me to take you serious | |||
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"Ugh, cant we all be a little precious! The OP asked for responses from those who make the decision to not wear a mask. Therefore, ones who are exempt need not have replied and we didn't need to go into all the 'it's my business, not yours' malarkey. I think the fellow from the US may be right suggesting the biggest problem is we're being told to wear them and we don't like being told what to do, do we." Some people thrive when being told what to do | |||
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"Continuation of previous thread.. questions aimed at those that do not have a valid reason to not wear a face mask... 1 - Do you wear a face mask when required (on public transport, in shops, when not seated in a pub or restaurant)? 2 - if no, what is your justification for not wearing one? 1 - No. 2 - my private and confidential medical history is exactly that, private and confidential! My right to not disclose this information is legally protected not only by data protection laws but also by disability discrimination laws too! If you have a valid reason, that's perfectly fine and nobody would expect you to disclose that personal information. The aim of the thread is to try to understand why those who should wear a mask, don't.. But you do tho by asking those who choose not to wear one to justify themselves
Whether anyone has a valid reason or not it has nothing to do with anyone
Exactly! No ones business people shouldn't have to justify why they dont wear one ! X"If you have No medical reason, for not wearing one, Then you should be wearing one. It has everything to do with everybody, after all you are risking them without any reason at all. Yesterday we had a young couple behind us, entering a shop. The female said to her boyfriend "oh shit we have left our masks in the car" He replied " never mind, if anyone asks, we have asthma" How embarrassing for them, when a Guy standing behind them was one of my Husband's ex colleagues and pulled out his Warrant Card and gave them a bollocking. Serves the twats right. | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
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"Ive asmath and autoimmune problems but still ware a mask ,ive seen people with portable oxygen with masks on ,so no exscuse for people with asthma not to ware one .." Yes there is my oxygen levels go down when i wear one and i can only wear one for a short time due to this. | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely? "Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it. Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now. | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
I have chronic, badly controlled asthma, wearing a mask makes it very difficult to breathe.
I'm exempt.
I do usually wear one in shops unless im in there for a while."Very sensible. I'm exempt too, but I always wear one | |||
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"What evidence is there that face masks Which are (worn incorrectly) actually make a difference when infection rates have risen since they were introduced. " Google is your friend. | |||
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"I don't wear a mask because it's against my freedom. I don't want to wear one and no one can make me. They don't work anyway, I can breathe through the fabric easily, so I know tiny elements can still get through, so what's the point? If anyone in a shop tells me to wear one, I call them a 'Karen' and it makes me feel really good. If I catch it, I'll be fine because I'm healthy. And I don't care about old people and fat people and those ones with that tube thingy that's a bit like Dark Vaider All of my friend share articles online and I've done more studyying than most scientisters. I'm a sovereign citizen and it's against my first constitutional right as a citizen of earth. This Bill Gates virus is fake news. It's all a lie to help the aliens stop us from lip reading each other when we're all tied up. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
Aye.
I wear a mask.
Even my 2yr old son can wear one, and he's got the attention span of some of the cretins in here.
So grow up ya bunch o' limpits, put a mask on and stop making things up.
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"What evidence is there that face masks Which are (worn incorrectly) actually make a difference when infection rates have risen since they were introduced. Google is your friend. "Totally agree. People should wear them correctly, ie, not under their chin etc. Absolutely useless when worn like this | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! no there are loads of valid reasons not to have to wear a mask the above is just a sample there at least 20 other reasons Hypoxia ,Hyperhydrosis, Lund disease , panic attack , lung cancer , pleurisy , " | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now."No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available. | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" Those that are exempt legally do not have to wear a face mask
What I'm saying is nobody believes anyone without a mask now! "I do ! | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! no there are loads of valid reasons not to have to wear a mask the above is just a sample there at least 20 other reasons Hypoxia ,Hyperhydrosis, Lund disease , panic attack , lung cancer , pleurisy ,
"Could wear a full face visor which will not impinge on any medical condition. Enough people wear motorcycle crash helmets which sit close to their faces without an issue. There are three options, face mask, face visor or clear mouth and nose guard.. Of those options, there must be one to suit everyone.. | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" Those that are exempt legally do not have to wear a face mask
What I'm saying is nobody believes anyone without a mask now!
I do !"Thank god there's one! | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now.
No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available. "I wouldnt get paid and benefits take a while to sort out. Im unable to get a food delivety slot. Also i would lose my job as i dont have a legal reason to isolate. I can only legally isolate if i have covid or i have been in contact with someone with it. I had the shielding letter but that ended ages ago .... although i didnt shield anyway, i carried on working as im an essential worker. | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now.
No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available.
I wouldnt get paid and benefits take a while to sort out. Im unable to get a food delivety slot. Also i would lose my job as i dont have a legal reason to isolate. I can only legally isolate if i have covid or i have been in contact with someone with it.
I had the shielding letter but that ended ages ago .... although i didnt shield anyway, i carried on working as im an essential worker. "Benefits are giving money up front, so no worry there. Are you really not able to get any food delivered? The supermarkets all deliver! Community helpers will shop and deliver to you. Where do you live not to be able to get food delivered? Have you tried? Contact your local food bank, they deliver. I think you have lots of options but you won't take them | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are! "Central sensitisation Autism That's 2 more | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now.
No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available.
I wouldnt get paid and benefits take a while to sort out. Im unable to get a food delivety slot. Also i would lose my job as i dont have a legal reason to isolate. I can only legally isolate if i have covid or i have been in contact with someone with it.
I had the shielding letter but that ended ages ago .... although i didnt shield anyway, i carried on working as im an essential worker.
Benefits are giving money up front, so no worry there. Are you really not able to get any food delivered? The supermarkets all deliver! Community helpers will shop and deliver to you. Where do you live not to be able to get food delivered? Have you tried? Contact your local food bank, they deliver. I think you have lots of options but you won't take them "Dont b ridiculous! Benefits do not get paid up front I had to wait 5 weeks when I got made redundant after being on furlough! I had got another job before I received anything! And as said they have a job they dont wish to loose ! | |||
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"Reasons not to have to wear a mask. Ahd ,agoraphobia,Anxiety,Autism,Chronic sinus issues , Claustrophobia, Depression , Deviated septum ,Down syndrome,Dysautonomia, Emphysema,Epilepsy, can’t be bothered to write the rest but there is another 20 reasons Are you saying mental illness is pretty much the only reason for not wearing a mask. Tbh, I've got to agree! no there are loads of valid reasons not to have to wear a mask the above is just a sample there at least 20 other reasons Hypoxia ,Hyperhydrosis, Lund disease , panic attack , lung cancer , pleurisy ,
Could wear a full face visor which will not impinge on any medical condition.
Enough people wear motorcycle crash helmets which sit close to their faces without an issue.
There are three options, face mask, face visor or clear mouth and nose guard..
Of those options, there must be one to suit everyone..
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more "So they need to wear a visor! But no! I can't do that because, , Fill in a crazy reason of your own! | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more
So they need to wear a visor! But no! I can't do that because, ,
Fill in a crazy reason of your own! "Do you even know what central sensitisation is ? Going by that last comment I will take that as a no | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now.
No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available.
I wouldnt get paid and benefits take a while to sort out. Im unable to get a food delivety slot. Also i would lose my job as i dont have a legal reason to isolate. I can only legally isolate if i have covid or i have been in contact with someone with it.
I had the shielding letter but that ended ages ago .... although i didnt shield anyway, i carried on working as im an essential worker.
Benefits are giving money up front, so no worry there. Are you really not able to get any food delivered? The supermarkets all deliver! Community helpers will shop and deliver to you. Where do you live not to be able to get food delivered? Have you tried? Contact your local food bank, they deliver. I think you have lots of options but you won't take them "I'm not bothering to give you the answers, you clearly have a gripe with my truthful reasons. Apart from saying ... i have a job, i want to keep it so i carry on going out into the world that seems to have a lot of idiots in it. | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now.
No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available.
I wouldnt get paid and benefits take a while to sort out. Im unable to get a food delivety slot. Also i would lose my job as i dont have a legal reason to isolate. I can only legally isolate if i have covid or i have been in contact with someone with it.
I had the shielding letter but that ended ages ago .... although i didnt shield anyway, i carried on working as im an essential worker.
Benefits are giving money up front, so no worry there. Are you really not able to get any food delivered? The supermarkets all deliver! Community helpers will shop and deliver to you. Where do you live not to be able to get food delivered? Have you tried? Contact your local food bank, they deliver. I think you have lots of options but you won't take them
Dont b ridiculous! Benefits do not get paid up front I had to wait 5 weeks when I got made redundant after being on furlough! I had got another job before I received anything! And as said they have a job they dont wish to loose ! " | |||
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"FUCK ..... there are some dickheads on here! WHERE A MASK!?? UNLESS YOU ARE EXEMPT! " WEAR! | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more
So they need to wear a visor! But no! I can't do that because, ,
Fill in a crazy reason of your own!
Do you even know what central sensitisation is ?
Going by that last comment I will take that as a no "OK, Cs can cause chronic pain even just wearing clothing. Should they strip naked as well? If they truly are this bad, this condition puts you in hospital. If they can happily go out out socialising, shopping etc, yes they are fine to wear a visor | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now.
No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available.
I wouldnt get paid and benefits take a while to sort out. Im unable to get a food delivety slot. Also i would lose my job as i dont have a legal reason to isolate. I can only legally isolate if i have covid or i have been in contact with someone with it.
I had the shielding letter but that ended ages ago .... although i didnt shield anyway, i carried on working as im an essential worker.
Benefits are giving money up front, so no worry there. Are you really not able to get any food delivered? The supermarkets all deliver! Community helpers will shop and deliver to you. Where do you live not to be able to get food delivered? Have you tried? Contact your local food bank, they deliver. I think you have lots of options but you won't take them
Dont b ridiculous! Benefits do not get paid up front I had to wait 5 weeks when I got made redundant after being on furlough! I had got another job before I received anything! And as said they have a job they dont wish to loose !
"Wrong. They should be telling you, and your first payment is now days not weeks if you choose. The money is taken of your benefits at a rate of £35 month. Any left owing is taken out of your final payment. This should have been explained to you on the first phone call to you after applying online. Most folk I know who've lost thier jobs have taken this offer up. As for a job, with no sick pay, how would they manage if they caught the virus? They might have to take months off. Or worse with being vulnerable. My health is worth more than a job with no sick pay. | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more
So they need to wear a visor! But no! I can't do that because, ,
Fill in a crazy reason of your own!
Do you even know what central sensitisation is ?
Going by that last comment I will take that as a no
OK, Cs can cause chronic pain even just wearing clothing. Should they strip naked as well?
If they truly are this bad, this condition puts you in hospital. If they can happily go out out socialising, shopping etc, yes they are fine to wear a visor "Our daughter as cs nothing can touch her face even the wind hurts her | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now.
No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available.
I wouldnt get paid and benefits take a while to sort out. Im unable to get a food delivety slot. Also i would lose my job as i dont have a legal reason to isolate. I can only legally isolate if i have covid or i have been in contact with someone with it.
I had the shielding letter but that ended ages ago .... although i didnt shield anyway, i carried on working as im an essential worker.
Benefits are giving money up front, so no worry there. Are you really not able to get any food delivered? The supermarkets all deliver! Community helpers will shop and deliver to you. Where do you live not to be able to get food delivered? Have you tried? Contact your local food bank, they deliver. I think you have lots of options but you won't take them
Dont b ridiculous! Benefits do not get paid up front I had to wait 5 weeks when I got made redundant after being on furlough! I had got another job before I received anything! And as said they have a job they dont wish to loose !
Wrong. They should be telling you, and your first payment is now days not weeks if you choose. The money is taken of your benefits at a rate of £35 month. Any left owing is taken out of your final payment. This should have been explained to you on the first phone call to you after applying online. Most folk I know who've lost thier jobs have taken this offer up. As for a job, with no sick pay, how would they manage if they caught the virus? They might have to take months off. Or worse with being vulnerable. My health is worth more than a job with no sick pay. "I'm done with u! Some people just wont listen to others! Have a fabby life ! Lol x | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now.
No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available.
I wouldnt get paid and benefits take a while to sort out. Im unable to get a food delivety slot. Also i would lose my job as i dont have a legal reason to isolate. I can only legally isolate if i have covid or i have been in contact with someone with it.
I had the shielding letter but that ended ages ago .... although i didnt shield anyway, i carried on working as im an essential worker.
Benefits are giving money up front, so no worry there. Are you really not able to get any food delivered? The supermarkets all deliver! Community helpers will shop and deliver to you. Where do you live not to be able to get food delivered? Have you tried? Contact your local food bank, they deliver. I think you have lots of options but you won't take them
Dont b ridiculous! Benefits do not get paid up front I had to wait 5 weeks when I got made redundant after being on furlough! I had got another job before I received anything! And as said they have a job they dont wish to loose !
Wrong. They should be telling you, and your first payment is now days not weeks if you choose. The money is taken of your benefits at a rate of £35 month. Any left owing is taken out of your final payment. This should have been explained to you on the first phone call to you after applying online. Most folk I know who've lost thier jobs have taken this offer up. As for a job, with no sick pay, how would they manage if they caught the virus? They might have to take months off. Or worse with being vulnerable. My health is worth more than a job with no sick pay.
I'm done with u! Some people just wont listen to others! Have a fabby life ! Lol x"Don't get your knickers in a twist dear
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 Unless they have one of 30 plus reasons that make them exempt Well all those that are exempt can still wear a face shield Totally agree, but they moan about that, and suddenly say "but I'm entitled" Those that are exempt legally do not have to wear a face mask "Those that are legally exepmt yes, not those that claim to be exempt but won't say why are a bunch of criminals and should be treated as shcby | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more "Two young nephews both with autism and love their masks so you can take that out as a "general" exemption | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more
So they need to wear a visor! But no! I can't do that because, ,
Fill in a crazy reason of your own!
Do you even know what central sensitisation is ?
Going by that last comment I will take that as a no
OK, Cs can cause chronic pain even just wearing clothing. Should they strip naked as well?
If they truly are this bad, this condition puts you in hospital. If they can happily go out out socialising, shopping etc, yes they are fine to wear a visor
Our daughter as cs nothing can touch her face even the wind hurts her "And I'm sure her gp or pharmacist would sign an exemption if it's that bad so no problem. | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more
Two young nephews both with autism and love their masks so you can take that out as a "general" exemption"Every one with autism is different Some can some can't | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now.
No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available.
I wouldnt get paid and benefits take a while to sort out. Im unable to get a food delivety slot. Also i would lose my job as i dont have a legal reason to isolate. I can only legally isolate if i have covid or i have been in contact with someone with it.
I had the shielding letter but that ended ages ago .... although i didnt shield anyway, i carried on working as im an essential worker.
Benefits are giving money up front, so no worry there. Are you really not able to get any food delivered? The supermarkets all deliver! Community helpers will shop and deliver to you. Where do you live not to be able to get food delivered? Have you tried? Contact your local food bank, they deliver. I think you have lots of options but you won't take them
Dont b ridiculous! Benefits do not get paid up front I had to wait 5 weeks when I got made redundant after being on furlough! I had got another job before I received anything! And as said they have a job they dont wish to loose ! "Then perhaps a visor wouldn't be such a big deal ? | |||
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"I wear mine when out and about even at work. I hate it as my glasses steam up but it makes me feel a little safer. Anybody not wearing one when they should should be fined more than £100 £100 for not wearing one and £1000 for refusing to wear one when challenged would be a start. Exemptions should be proven not assumed What a load of bull! Why ? Do you support criminal activity ? Because people with disabilities should not b singled out ! Should not have to prove anything! " of course they should have to prove it, it's the only way to stop the fakes | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now.
No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available.
I wouldnt get paid and benefits take a while to sort out. Im unable to get a food delivety slot. Also i would lose my job as i dont have a legal reason to isolate. I can only legally isolate if i have covid or i have been in contact with someone with it.
I had the shielding letter but that ended ages ago .... although i didnt shield anyway, i carried on working as im an essential worker.
Benefits are giving money up front, so no worry there. Are you really not able to get any food delivered? The supermarkets all deliver! Community helpers will shop and deliver to you. Where do you live not to be able to get food delivered? Have you tried? Contact your local food bank, they deliver. I think you have lots of options but you won't take them
Dont b ridiculous! Benefits do not get paid up front I had to wait 5 weeks when I got made redundant after being on furlough! I had got another job before I received anything! And as said they have a job they dont wish to loose !
Then perhaps a visor wouldn't be such a big deal ?" cant find a roll eye emoji this will have to do! | |||
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" of course they should have to prove it, it's the only way to stop the fakes" from .gov Exemption: 'Those who have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering should not be routinely asked to give any written evidence of this, this includes exemption cards. No person needs to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about their reason for not wearing a face covering. Some people may feel more comfortable showing something that says they do not have to wear a face covering. This could be in the form of an exemption card, badge or even a home-made sign.' This is a personal choice and is not necessary in law. | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more
So they need to wear a visor! But no! I can't do that because, ,
Fill in a crazy reason of your own!
Do you even know what central sensitisation is ?
Going by that last comment I will take that as a no
OK, Cs can cause chronic pain even just wearing clothing. Should they strip naked as well?
If they truly are this bad, this condition puts you in hospital. If they can happily go out out socialising, shopping etc, yes they are fine to wear a visor
Our daughter as cs nothing can touch her face even the wind hurts her
And I'm sure her gp or pharmacist would sign an exemption if it's that bad so no problem."Sheffield children's hospital and great ormond street hospital both say there is no law for anyone to ask her for a exemption If a law is made then they will start to issue them | |||
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" of course they should have to prove it, it's the only way to stop the fakes from .gov Exemption: 'Those who have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering should not be routinely asked to give any written evidence of this, this includes exemption cards. No person needs to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about their reason for not wearing a face covering. Some people may feel more comfortable showing something that says they do not have to wear a face covering. This could be in the form of an exemption card, badge or even a home-made sign.' This is a personal choice and is not necessary in law. "Then the government advice needs to be changed and that's what we've been saying all through the thread. Not treating people like the criminals they are isn't helping | |||
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" of course they should have to prove it, it's the only way to stop the fakes from .gov Exemption: 'Those who have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering should not be routinely asked to give any written evidence of this, this includes exemption cards. No person needs to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about their reason for not wearing a face covering. Some people may feel more comfortable showing something that says they do not have to wear a face covering. This could be in the form of an exemption card, badge or even a home-made sign.' This is a personal choice and is not necessary in law. " | |||
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" Not treating people like the criminals they are isn't helping" But if it's not illegal - they are not criminals. | |||
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"For the the people who say they "can't", if they are that ill, they should be isolating! Surely?
Do you mean shielding ? You isolate when you have covid 19 or have had close contact with someone with it.
Shielding has ended now for most people. I wouldnt get paid nor get food etc if i shielded now.
No, I mean isolating themselves away from the virus. I think the food /pay thing is a little dramatic. I'm sure you could have your food delivered and that benefits would be available.
I wouldnt get paid and benefits take a while to sort out. Im unable to get a food delivety slot. Also i would lose my job as i dont have a legal reason to isolate. I can only legally isolate if i have covid or i have been in contact with someone with it.
I had the shielding letter but that ended ages ago .... although i didnt shield anyway, i carried on working as im an essential worker.
Benefits are giving money up front, so no worry there. Are you really not able to get any food delivered? The supermarkets all deliver! Community helpers will shop and deliver to you. Where do you live not to be able to get food delivered? Have you tried? Contact your local food bank, they deliver. I think you have lots of options but you won't take them
Dont b ridiculous! Benefits do not get paid up front I had to wait 5 weeks when I got made redundant after being on furlough! I had got another job before I received anything! And as said they have a job they dont wish to loose !
Wrong. They should be telling you, and your first payment is now days not weeks if you choose. The money is taken of your benefits at a rate of £35 month. Any left owing is taken out of your final payment. This should have been explained to you on the first phone call to you after applying online. Most folk I know who've lost thier jobs have taken this offer up. As for a job, with no sick pay, how would they manage if they caught the virus? They might have to take months off. Or worse with being vulnerable. My health is worth more than a job with no sick pay. "I get paid sick pay, full amount. Id get paid for shielding, as i recieved the shielding letter but that has ended now. I would get paid if i was isolating due to having contact with someone with covid. I WOULDNT get paid if i decided to isolate simply to avoid wearing a mask. I cant work from home as im a nursery nurse. | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more
So they need to wear a visor! But no! I can't do that because, ,
Fill in a crazy reason of your own!
Do you even know what central sensitisation is ?
Going by that last comment I will take that as a no
OK, Cs can cause chronic pain even just wearing clothing. Should they strip naked as well?
If they truly are this bad, this condition puts you in hospital. If they can happily go out out socialising, shopping etc, yes they are fine to wear a visor
Our daughter as cs nothing can touch her face even the wind hurts her "This is why visors have been suggested. So nothing would touch her face. | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more
So they need to wear a visor! But no! I can't do that because, ,
Fill in a crazy reason of your own!
Do you even know what central sensitisation is ?
Going by that last comment I will take that as a no
OK, Cs can cause chronic pain even just wearing clothing. Should they strip naked as well?
If they truly are this bad, this condition puts you in hospital. If they can happily go out out socialising, shopping etc, yes they are fine to wear a visor
Our daughter as cs nothing can touch her face even the wind hurts her
This is why visors have been suggested. So nothing would touch her face. "but they do touch the face | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more
So they need to wear a visor! But no! I can't do that because, ,
Fill in a crazy reason of your own!
Do you even know what central sensitisation is ?
Going by that last comment I will take that as a no
OK, Cs can cause chronic pain even just wearing clothing. Should they strip naked as well?
If they truly are this bad, this condition puts you in hospital. If they can happily go out out socialising, shopping etc, yes they are fine to wear a visor
Our daughter as cs nothing can touch her face even the wind hurts her
This is why visors have been suggested. So nothing would touch her face. but they do touch the face "Hmmm. I've wore them for years. If you look at the front strap, it articulates so they don't touch the skin. They can just sit on hair | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more
So they need to wear a visor! But no! I can't do that because, ,
Fill in a crazy reason of your own!
Do you even know what central sensitisation is ?
Going by that last comment I will take that as a no
OK, Cs can cause chronic pain even just wearing clothing. Should they strip naked as well?
If they truly are this bad, this condition puts you in hospital. If they can happily go out out socialising, shopping etc, yes they are fine to wear a visor
Our daughter as cs nothing can touch her face even the wind hurts her
This is why visors have been suggested. So nothing would touch her face. but they do touch the face
Hmmm. I've wore them for years. If you look at the front strap, it articulates so they don't touch the skin. They can just sit on hair "All the ones we have seen they touch the forehead | |||
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"I personally think, if people are so badly they can't wear a face mask,they definitely shouldn't be allowed out. Protect the vulnerable. I've been told, the only real reasons are PTSD and serious facial injuries,for not wearing a mask.
No there are far more reasons than those 2 x
Wish someone would tell me what they are!
Central sensitisation
Autism
That's 2 more
So they need to wear a visor! But no! I can't do that because, ,
Fill in a crazy reason of your own!
Do you even know what central sensitisation is ?
Going by that last comment I will take that as a no
OK, Cs can cause chronic pain even just wearing clothing. Should they strip naked as well?
If they truly are this bad, this condition puts you in hospital. If they can happily go out out socialising, shopping etc, yes they are fine to wear a visor
Our daughter as cs nothing can touch her face even the wind hurts her
This is why visors have been suggested. So nothing would touch her face. but they do touch the face
Hmmm. I've wore them for years. If you look at the front strap, it articulates so they don't touch the skin. They can just sit on hair
All the ones we have seen they touch the forehead "I've not seen a non pivotal one. The other good reason is that it will keep wind off her face. Look at the ones with the softest foam on the bands too. I can't feel one being worn after a minute or two | |||
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"My pal purposely stands next to people without masks and farts by them, followed by eye to eye contact. He says his his "right" to make people who don't wear masks to do this! "I had a moron do this to me when I was sat on a bench on with my housemate. We had our bandanas off and were eating. Idiot thought it was funny to sit next to me and fart and tap at his mask. He didn’t find it funny when my milk shake slipped out my hand all over him
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