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By *outhbucksCouple
over a year ago
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Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going |
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over a year ago
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going"
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it . |
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it ."
What do you know that the scientists don’t? |
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it ."
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field. |
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over a year ago
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field."
He probably watched a YouTube video that accuses Bill Gates of being Satan |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
What do you know that the scientists don’t? "
Well every vaccination carries a risk of latrogenic reaction.
You are letting an experimental drug be tested on you. Once in you there's nothing you can do. I personally know of someone who took part in trials, for another experimental drug, and their personality changes beyond all recognition.
And I am from a science background.
Don't do it. Really. Don't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field.
He probably watched a YouTube video that accuses Bill Gates of being Satan "
No I didn't watch YouTube and your so called scientific experts often leave a lot to be desired. But hey smart ass you carry on. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
What do you know that the scientists don’t?
Well every vaccination carries a risk of latrogenic reaction.
You are letting an experimental drug be tested on you. Once in you there's nothing you can do. I personally know of someone who took part in trials, for another experimental drug, and their personality changes beyond all recognition.
And I am from a science background.
Don't do it. Really. Don't. "
Are you really? So you know more than the scientists that have created this vaccine? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field."
An expert. Really. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field."
Is the expert taking the vaccination? No. Just some poor slob. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field.
He probably watched a YouTube video that accuses Bill Gates of being Satan
No I didn't watch YouTube and your so called scientific experts often leave a lot to be desired. But hey smart ass you carry on. "
Why should I trust a man with a hidden profile on a swinging site over respected scientists ? |
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field.
An expert. Really."
Yes they work in the pharmaceutical industry. |
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By *rouble1998Woman
over a year ago
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Personally, no. As a young woman who hasn’t had any children yet I dont want to risk my long term health and any possible impact on fertility. Everyone thought thalidomide was a good idea until thousands of disabled children were born.
I’d need to see proof it was safe in the long term |
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"Personally, no. As a young woman who hasn’t had any children yet I dont want to risk my long term health and any possible impact on fertility. Everyone thought thalidomide was a good idea until thousands of disabled children were born.
I’d need to see proof it was safe in the long term "
Its personal choice and i respect that. I assume you would have a licensed vaccine. We have no idea of the effect on fertility that covid has. Thalidomide also wasn't a vaccine. The safety bar for a vaccine is a lot higher than general medicines. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field.
He probably watched a YouTube video that accuses Bill Gates of being Satan "
Or watched and read about Bill Gates being boosom buddies with Jeff epstien even after he was accused, tried, convicted, jailed and released from prison for child trafficking, sexual assault and abuse.
For the record... Yes I would only after I'm 100% satisfied that the jab was 100% safe, effective and necessary. That doesn't happen in 6-12 months |
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field.
He probably watched a YouTube video that accuses Bill Gates of being Satan
Or watched and read about Bill Gates being boosom buddies with Jeff epstien even after he was accused, tried, convicted, jailed and released from prison for child trafficking, sexual assault and abuse.
For the record... Yes I would only after I'm 100% satisfied that the jab was 100% safe, effective and necessary. That doesn't happen in 6-12 months "
Bossom buddies? |
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field.
He probably watched a YouTube video that accuses Bill Gates of being Satan
Or watched and read about Bill Gates being boosom buddies with Jeff epstien even after he was accused, tried, convicted, jailed and released from prison for child trafficking, sexual assault and abuse.
For the record... Yes I would only after I'm 100% satisfied that the jab was 100% safe, effective and necessary. That doesn't happen in 6-12 months
Bossom buddies? "
Epstein was a lot closer to bill clinton and donald trump than bill gates |
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"Personally, no. As a young woman who hasn’t had any children yet I dont want to risk my long term health and any possible impact on fertility. Everyone thought thalidomide was a good idea until thousands of disabled children were born.
I’d need to see proof it was safe in the long term
Its personal choice and i respect that. I assume you would have a licensed vaccine. We have no idea of the effect on fertility that covid has. Thalidomide also wasn't a vaccine. The safety bar for a vaccine is a lot higher than general medicines."
I heard a public health expert say that ACE2, where the virus gains access into cells, are most prevalent in fallopian tubes and testes.
Food for thought. |
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going"
Is he doing the trial too ? |
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"If your were offered to trial it.
(Hopefully all this is spelt correct " yes. I applied but couldnt do so as was found to have already got anti bodies .. so part of another research project now instead x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field.
He probably watched a YouTube video that accuses Bill Gates of being Satan
Or watched and read about Bill Gates being boosom buddies with Jeff epstien even after he was accused, tried, convicted, jailed and released from prison for child trafficking, sexual assault and abuse.
For the record... Yes I would only after I'm 100% satisfied that the jab was 100% safe, effective and necessary. That doesn't happen in 6-12 months
Bossom buddies?
Epstein was a lot closer to bill clinton and donald trump than bill gates"
So that makes it alright? Would you associate with Jeff epstien after being locked up for his crimes or would you walk in the opposite direction to totally distance yourself from a monster like him? Would you trust someone that mixes in the epstien circles?
Be it trump, clinton or whoever you choose... Personally I would steer well clear and sign zero deals and make zero visits to his properties.... But that's just me |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
What do you know that the scientists don’t?
Well every vaccination carries a risk of latrogenic reaction.
You are letting an experimental drug be tested on you. Once in you there's nothing you can do. I personally know of someone who took part in trials, for another experimental drug, and their personality changes beyond all recognition.
And I am from a science background.
Don't do it. Really. Don't. " lm calling you out. You have no background in any sciences!
Deffinatly not an A level, degree, masters, or PhD. |
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All drug clinical trials carry a certain amount of risk. The risk is non-zero but the majority of trials are successfully concluded without any issues.
By taking part in a clinical trial you are helping society and often paid for it as well. Furthermore, in phase I trials the volunteers are carefully monitored in a hospital so it's a way to get a detailed and free medical checkup.
For the consipracy mongers, here's the thing: A drug can pass every clinical trials and be approved but that does that mean it's safe. The side effects may not have been picked up but become apparent when the drug is given to the general population. There are drugs on the market that have had to be withdrawn after years of use. So, when we eventually get a Covid vaccine approved, it's still an experimental drug and we won't know all the risks/benefits until it's given to a large number of people. |
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"If your were offered to trial it.
(Hopefully all this is spelt correct "
Yes, I feel that I have a strong constitution and could survive any ill effects. The more people involved in the trials, the better the data.
Cal |
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
What do you know that the scientists don’t?
Well every vaccination carries a risk of latrogenic reaction.
You are letting an experimental drug be tested on you. Once in you there's nothing you can do. I personally know of someone who took part in trials, for another experimental drug, and their personality changes beyond all recognition.
And I am from a science background.
Don't do it. Really. Don't. "
So you will know that trials are eventually carried out on people right ? |
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"If your were offered to trial it.
(Hopefully all this is spelt correct "
Not a chance. Made in 8 months, so no idea of long term effects.. look how long the MMR vaccine has been around, and it was only a few years back there was a big uproar about the implications. |
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"Can a person sue the drug company if the vaccine has a detrimental effect on the health of a family or individual? "
If it's during a trial, no, because you will have signed liability forms waiving responsibility.
Once a drug is on the market, yes, you can sue the manufacturer but these are complex court cases often involving mass litigation in the US. Takeda, for example, paid over $2 billion for not publicising the potential cancer risk of its antidiabetic drug pioglitazone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can a person sue the drug company if the vaccine has a detrimental effect on the health of a family or individual?
If it's during a trial, no, because you will have signed liability forms waiving responsibility.
Once a drug is on the market, yes, you can sue the manufacturer but these are complex court cases often involving mass litigation in the US. Takeda, for example, paid over $2 billion for not publicising the potential cancer risk of its antidiabetic drug pioglitazone."
In that case no. Good info |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can a person sue the drug company if the vaccine has a detrimental effect on the health of a family or individual?
If it's during a trial, no, because you will have signed liability forms waiving responsibility.
Once a drug is on the market, yes, you can sue the manufacturer but these are complex court cases often involving mass litigation in the US. Takeda, for example, paid over $2 billion for not publicising the potential cancer risk of its antidiabetic drug pioglitazone.
In that case no. Good info "
Not even for a fuck? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think it should be offered to the people who think the virus is a hoax, after all if the virus is a hoax then the vaccine will be a placebo."
If they think it's a hoax why would they want to trial a vaccine.....to a hoax? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field.
He probably watched a YouTube video that accuses Bill Gates of being Satan
No I didn't watch YouTube and your so called scientific experts often leave a lot to be desired. But hey smart ass you carry on.
Why should I trust a man with a hidden profile on a swinging site over respected scientists ? "
Why trust some so called expert? The reason they test is because they don't know what will happen and want to know .
Do you want to gamble with your health?
Hey carry on.
Not me. No matter what they pay.
And remember you will sign a consent form so if anything goes wrong they won't be left holding the can...you will.
Have fun. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ineffective flu vaccines.. No thank you.
I've read up on enough information to make my decision. Unless it becomes Mandatory "
They can't make it mandatory. It violates human rights. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ineffective flu vaccines.. No thank you.
I've read up on enough information to make my decision. Unless it becomes Mandatory
They can't make it mandatory. It violates human rights. " ...i'm glad you don't want it....more for those that do |
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"Ineffective flu vaccines.. No thank you.
I've read up on enough information to make my decision. Unless it becomes Mandatory
They can't make it mandatory. It violates human rights. ...i'm glad you don't want it....more for those that do "
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"Yes, I'd trial it. Brave men women take a step forward to protect those who can't or won't. "
*Steps back* Ill wait & see the effect it has on folk first thank you. If that makes me cowardly then that's cool |
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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago
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"Yes, I'd trial it. Brave men women take a step forward to protect those who can't or won't.
Painting yourself as a hero eh?
Oh my.
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Painting yourself as a coward eh? My my my. These people deserve thx. I for one appreciate it. |
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By *emmabTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If your were offered to trial it.
(Hopefully all this is spelt correct
Not a chance. Made in 8 months, so no idea of long term effects.. look how long the MMR vaccine has been around, and it was only a few years back there was a big uproar about the implications."
Nothing wrong with the MMR vaccine. The link to autism was completely made up and the scientist that published the paper has been discredited and been prosecuted.
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"If your were offered to trial it.
(Hopefully all this is spelt correct
Not a chance. Made in 8 months, so no idea of long term effects.. look how long the MMR vaccine has been around, and it was only a few years back there was a big uproar about the implications.
Nothing wrong with the MMR vaccine. The link to autism was completely made up and the scientist that published the paper has been discredited and been prosecuted.
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And the damage done by him and his quacky cronies has been huge. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If your were offered to trial it.
(Hopefully all this is spelt correct
Not a chance. Made in 8 months, so no idea of long term effects.. look how long the MMR vaccine has been around, and it was only a few years back there was a big uproar about the implications.
Nothing wrong with the MMR vaccine. The link to autism was completely made up and the scientist that published the paper has been discredited and been prosecuted.
And the damage done by him and his quacky cronies has been huge."
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By (user no longer on site)
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Have been part of the Cambridge trial for over 3 months.
Despite the views of Mr Toffee Wrapper (aren’t they made out of tin foil?) the testing of any medications/vaccines are stringently measured. To be blunt, you have a greater chance of being hit by a bus and having COVID put on your death certificate than suffering long term side effects from it. The U.K. drug testing industry has proven this over decades of widespread research programs.
My view is quite simple, I’ve had covid once, I believe if there is a chance of reinfection it keeps me safer as I have no idea of any weakening from my original illness. It also gives me greater confidence in protecting my parents from inadvertently infecting them as members of a high risk age group.
If/when a vaccine is widespread people should realise the scale of operation required to vaccinate a country of our size. I believe whatever process is undertaken you’ll be looking at years before the nation would have immunity, I’d guess for me I’d be viewed as a far lesser priority compared to much of the population so in a way the opportunity has allowed me to jump the queue. |
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
What do you know that the scientists don’t?
Well every vaccination carries a risk of latrogenic reaction.
You are letting an experimental drug be tested on you. Once in you there's nothing you can do. I personally know of someone who took part in trials, for another experimental drug, and their personality changes beyond all recognition.
And I am from a science background.
Don't do it. Really. Don't. "
So should it be tested on animals first
Is do it as it's needs to be done on some one.
Thank you to all that are doing this for the grater good... |
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"Already volunteered
A close family member is high up in the pharma industry and I would always take his advice on this and he is happy with the way the Oxford University's Keller Institute trial is going
Don't do it. For your own health don't even think about it .
Why shouldn't they? They even asked an expert in the field.
He probably watched a YouTube video that accuses Bill Gates of being Satan
Or watched and read about Bill Gates being boosom buddies with Jeff epstien even after he was accused, tried, convicted, jailed and released from prison for child trafficking, sexual assault and abuse.
For the record... Yes I would only after I'm 100% satisfied that the jab was 100% safe, effective and necessary. That doesn't happen in 6-12 months "
So is this not the point |
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100% yes I would test it if it means being part of something that has the end game of an efficient vaccine. I have children and grandchildren so if my volunteering helps to save them I would at any cost to me. |
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