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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

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By *spotpleasurerMan  over a year ago

Norwich

Land of the free ... home of the brave

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

It highlights what's wrong with the demands from some to let the majority just crack on with their lives.

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By *eddy and legsCouple  over a year ago

the wetlands

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By *eddy and legsCouple  over a year ago

the wetlands


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this "

This rumour has been quashed by a panel of fab experts

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

it doesn't matter... trump gave himself an A+ on the US response... and even said yesterday at an election event said that it affects "virtually nobody"......

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

He's also saying the election is rigged...its going to be interesting when his time is up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this "

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this "

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so."

I'm intrigued as to what sort of argument you think you are making here.

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. "

Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government"

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Oh dear...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Land of the free ... home of the brave"

Home of the grave more like it

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government"

For someone to be so out of touch with reality that for even a minute they can't see what has happened with the testing debacle of the last few weeks and that the promised world beating track and trace is not even the best in the UK ..

Yes there has been irresponsible behaviours by some of the public but ffs wake up..

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By *D835Man  over a year ago

London


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders. "

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

I'm intrigued as to what sort of argument you think you are making here."

Using the same logic we should forget about 911 which killed a fraction of that and also the Vietnam War.

Donald Trump killed 3 times more Americans in 9 months than the Viet Cong did in 10 years.

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By *D835Man  over a year ago

London


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

I'm intrigued as to what sort of argument you think you are making here.

Using the same logic we should forget about 911 which killed a fraction of that and also the Vietnam War.

Donald Trump killed 3 times more Americans in 9 months than the Viet Cong did in 10 years."

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given. "

I have not said the government is doing things right,they have done much wrong but you still have to help yourself,just blaming the government is a cop out

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By *oncupiscence73Woman  over a year ago

South


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given. "

How can you expect compliance when senior members weren’t following - Bojo himself shook hands and boasted about it. Cummings? Well need I say more other countries sacked their government members for breaking lockdown us? Nope! Total shower of shit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

I'm intrigued as to what sort of argument you think you are making here."

The point seems obvious.. large numbers are scarry, they're deliberately used out of context. So when put into context they have a better representation of facts.

Now if we had 200,000 in the UK then it's the same figure, but would it represent something rather different?

Bit like saying UK has a high population density, it's 275 per square km. Seems high. Then look at Bangladesh it's 1,352/km2. Now the UK isn't really densely populated at all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given. I have not said the government is doing things right,they have done much wrong but you still have to help yourself,just blaming the government is a cop out"

Do you believe the government should set an example to it's people?

For instance do you expect people to take Boris seriously when he tells us to social distance then attends an international rugby match. Tells us to wash our hands then shake one hand after another in a hospital. Then excuse Dominic Cummings with a story an idiot with an IQ of 70 wouldn't believe.

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By *moothman2000Man  over a year ago

Leicestershire

Knowing Trump's poor grasp of reality, he'll soon be claiming that the US are world leaders as they have the highest death rate...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

I'm intrigued as to what sort of argument you think you are making here.

Using the same logic we should forget about 911 which killed a fraction of that and also the Vietnam War.

Donald Trump killed 3 times more Americans in 9 months than the Viet Cong did in 10 years."

How has trump killed them?

Love the way some just ignore personal responsibility.

People make their own choices. There's plenty on here meeting up, there's even social events organised and still going ahead. There's parties happening all over, people are blatantly ignoring what is the right thing to be doing. That's not our leaders fault. That's plane selfishness a the height of stupidity, knowingly doing what is wrong.

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By *moothman2000Man  over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given. I have not said the government is doing things right,they have done much wrong but you still have to help yourself,just blaming the government is a cop out

Do you believe the government should set an example to it's people?

For instance do you expect people to take Boris seriously when he tells us to social distance then attends an international rugby match. Tells us to wash our hands then shake one hand after another in a hospital. Then excuse Dominic Cummings with a story an idiot with an IQ of 70 wouldn't believe."

Absolutely not.

They all have the morals of a stoat and are as crooked as the day is long.

That's not a moral example I want to live down to.

However, just because they're being arses, it doesn't make sense to copy their example and become one as well.

We all know what we need to do now and we should just do what keeps us all safe.

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By *wisted999Man  over a year ago

North Bucks


"Knowing Trump's poor grasp of reality, he'll soon be claiming that the US are world leaders as they have the highest death rate... "

Biden cocked up on the numbers the other day again. Trump went down the bleach route.

I feel sorry for the US at the moment.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given. I have not said the government is doing things right,they have done much wrong but you still have to help yourself,just blaming the government is a cop out

Do you believe the government should set an example to it's people?

For instance do you expect people to take Boris seriously when he tells us to social distance then attends an international rugby match. Tells us to wash our hands then shake one hand after another in a hospital. Then excuse Dominic Cummings with a story an idiot with an IQ of 70 wouldn't believe."

Are you saying then you can't make a good responsible decision because some leaders haven't? Does that give you justification not to do what you know you really should?

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By *D835Man  over a year ago

London


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given. I have not said the government is doing things right,they have done much wrong but you still have to help yourself,just blaming the government is a cop out"

"...I have not said the government is doing things right..."

-----------------

I didn't say you said so. If anything I was supporting the comment you made earlier - and I'm saying that we can't solely blame the government for all this mess, because part of the mess is also caused by members of the public not following government guidance and advice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given. I have not said the government is doing things right,they have done much wrong but you still have to help yourself,just blaming the government is a cop out

Do you believe the government should set an example to it's people?

For instance do you expect people to take Boris seriously when he tells us to social distance then attends an international rugby match. Tells us to wash our hands then shake one hand after another in a hospital. Then excuse Dominic Cummings with a story an idiot with an IQ of 70 wouldn't believe.

Are you saying then you can't make a good responsible decision because some leaders haven't? Does that give you justification not to do what you know you really should?"

No I'm saying we can't be expected to follow rules if our leaders are blatantly insincere about them. It's lip service and is treated as such.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

I'm intrigued as to what sort of argument you think you are making here.

Using the same logic we should forget about 911 which killed a fraction of that and also the Vietnam War.

Donald Trump killed 3 times more Americans in 9 months than the Viet Cong did in 10 years.

How has trump killed them?

Love the way some just ignore personal responsibility.

People make their own choices. There's plenty on here meeting up, there's even social events organised and still going ahead. There's parties happening all over, people are blatantly ignoring what is the right thing to be doing. That's not our leaders fault. That's plane selfishness a the height of stupidity, knowingly doing what is wrong."

Trump was briefed on 24 January 2020 about the reality of Covid-19. He then went out and told his people that Covid-19 was a "hoax" and that it would go away on it's own. He has lied repeatedly through the entire crisis and people have believed him and died as a consequence.

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By *D835Man  over a year ago

London

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By *D835Man  over a year ago

London


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

I'm intrigued as to what sort of argument you think you are making here.

Using the same logic we should forget about 911 which killed a fraction of that and also the Vietnam War.

Donald Trump killed 3 times more Americans in 9 months than the Viet Cong did in 10 years.

How has trump killed them?

Love the way some just ignore personal responsibility.

People make their own choices. There's plenty on here meeting up, there's even social events organised and still going ahead. There's parties happening all over, people are blatantly ignoring what is the right thing to be doing. That's not our leaders fault. That's plane selfishness a the height of stupidity, knowingly doing what is wrong."

"...How has trump killed them?..."

----------------------

I don't think the poster (MayContainFullNuts) meant that Trump killed them directly. More like Trump's lack of leadership on this matter has resulted in too many avoidable deaths.

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given. I have not said the government is doing things right,they have done much wrong but you still have to help yourself,just blaming the government is a cop out

Do you believe the government should set an example to it's people?

For instance do you expect people to take Boris seriously when he tells us to social distance then attends an international rugby match. Tells us to wash our hands then shake one hand after another in a hospital. Then excuse Dominic Cummings with a story an idiot with an IQ of 70 wouldn't believe.

Are you saying then you can't make a good responsible decision because some leaders haven't? Does that give you justification not to do what you know you really should?

No I'm saying we can't be expected to follow rules if our leaders are blatantly insincere about them. It's lip service and is treated as such."

Excuses pathetic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

I'm intrigued as to what sort of argument you think you are making here.

Using the same logic we should forget about 911 which killed a fraction of that and also the Vietnam War.

Donald Trump killed 3 times more Americans in 9 months than the Viet Cong did in 10 years.

How has trump killed them?

Love the way some just ignore personal responsibility.

People make their own choices. There's plenty on here meeting up, there's even social events organised and still going ahead. There's parties happening all over, people are blatantly ignoring what is the right thing to be doing. That's not our leaders fault. That's plane selfishness a the height of stupidity, knowingly doing what is wrong.

Trump was briefed on 24 January 2020 about the reality of Covid-19. He then went out and told his people that Covid-19 was a "hoax" and that it would go away on it's own. He has lied repeatedly through the entire crisis and people have believed him and died as a consequence. "

Briefed? By whom? Fauci?

That's good enough reason to disregard it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given. I have not said the government is doing things right,they have done much wrong but you still have to help yourself,just blaming the government is a cop out

Do you believe the government should set an example to it's people?

For instance do you expect people to take Boris seriously when he tells us to social distance then attends an international rugby match. Tells us to wash our hands then shake one hand after another in a hospital. Then excuse Dominic Cummings with a story an idiot with an IQ of 70 wouldn't believe.

Are you saying then you can't make a good responsible decision because some leaders haven't? Does that give you justification not to do what you know you really should?

No I'm saying we can't be expected to follow rules if our leaders are blatantly insincere about them. It's lip service and is treated as such."

I'm saying you can exercise those rules whether leaders do or not. Should it really make any difference for you or me if others break rules or the law?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given. I have not said the government is doing things right,they have done much wrong but you still have to help yourself,just blaming the government is a cop out

Do you believe the government should set an example to it's people?

For instance do you expect people to take Boris seriously when he tells us to social distance then attends an international rugby match. Tells us to wash our hands then shake one hand after another in a hospital. Then excuse Dominic Cummings with a story an idiot with an IQ of 70 wouldn't believe.

Are you saying then you can't make a good responsible decision because some leaders haven't? Does that give you justification not to do what you know you really should?

No I'm saying we can't be expected to follow rules if our leaders are blatantly insincere about them. It's lip service and is treated as such."

I used to think like that when I was 5 or 6 but I grew up and owned responsibility.

Leaders make mistakes but let's not let them think we're just little kids who can act responsibly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing."

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?"

Scroll up to the title of this thread. That's what some people seem to be defending Trump against. And it is astonishing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?"

A huge death toll , unless they lock down as a federal measure this is going to rise massively

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

A huge death toll , unless they lock down as a federal measure this is going to rise massively "

Prove it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

Scroll up to the title of this thread. That's what some people seem to be defending Trump against. And it is astonishing."

Why is that Trump's fault?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

A huge death toll , unless they lock down as a federal measure this is going to rise massively "

I wonder if you'd say the same if Obama were still in charge?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

Scroll up to the title of this thread. That's what some people seem to be defending Trump against. And it is astonishing.

Why is that Trump's fault?

"

Um ... because he's been an incompetent President during a pandemic that resulted in 200,000 American deaths? Just a thought.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

Scroll up to the title of this thread. That's what some people seem to be defending Trump against. And it is astonishing.

Why is that Trump's fault?

Um ... because he's been an incompetent President during a pandemic that resulted in 200,000 American deaths? Just a thought.

"

Why is he responsible?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

Scroll up to the title of this thread. That's what some people seem to be defending Trump against. And it is astonishing.

Why is that Trump's fault?

Um ... because he's been an incompetent President during a pandemic that resulted in 200,000 American deaths? Just a thought.

Why is he responsible?

"

He's the President. That makes him ultimately responsible. Is that hard to understand?

He also lied for months that Covid was far less dangerous than he knew it to be.

And he kept giving mixed messages on masks. Sometimes saying they had a use. Other times, telling journalists to take masks off.

He also pushed cures that weren't cures. And suggested cures that sounded mad or dangerous.

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By *ENGUYMan  over a year ago

Hull


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

Scroll up to the title of this thread. That's what some people seem to be defending Trump against. And it is astonishing.

Why is that Trump's fault?

Um ... because he's been an incompetent President during a pandemic that resulted in 200,000 American deaths? Just a thought.

Why is he responsible?

"

He's been found out to have downplayed the importance of the virus and how it would affect all American citizens.

At the start of his time in office, he dismantled and closed the health and pandemic authorities who would've been best to have battled this pandemic across the States.

He has diverted funding destined for health matters to building up the Military and Defence.

He's been constantly at odds with Scientific experts, as he has no knowledge of such matters nor cares to learn about Science as a whole and how it works for his country.

That's just the start!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

Scroll up to the title of this thread. That's what some people seem to be defending Trump against. And it is astonishing.

Why is that Trump's fault?

Um ... because he's been an incompetent President during a pandemic that resulted in 200,000 American deaths? Just a thought.

Why is he responsible?

He's been found out to have downplayed the importance of the virus and how it would affect all American citizens.

At the start of his time in office, he dismantled and closed the health and pandemic authorities who would've been best to have battled this pandemic across the States.

He has diverted funding destined for health matters to building up the Military and Defence.

He's been constantly at odds with Scientific experts, as he has no knowledge of such matters nor cares to learn about Science as a whole and how it works for his country.

That's just the start!"

What would you have him do? Imprison the entire population? Damage the economy even more? Listen go to that useless wee bastard Fauci?

Maybe there are other experts he's listening to ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

Scroll up to the title of this thread. That's what some people seem to be defending Trump against. And it is astonishing.

Why is that Trump's fault?

Um ... because he's been an incompetent President during a pandemic that resulted in 200,000 American deaths? Just a thought.

Why is he responsible?

He's been found out to have downplayed the importance of the virus and how it would affect all American citizens.

At the start of his time in office, he dismantled and closed the health and pandemic authorities who would've been best to have battled this pandemic across the States.

He has diverted funding destined for health matters to building up the Military and Defence.

He's been constantly at odds with Scientific experts, as he has no knowledge of such matters nor cares to learn about Science as a whole and how it works for his country.

That's just the start!

What would you have him do? Imprison the entire population? Damage the economy even more? Listen go to that useless wee bastard Fauci?

Maybe there are other experts he's listening to ?"

Wellll ... I guess Trump might be listening to Frederick the invisible Wombat who only talks to him. Actually, that could explain a lot.

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By *ENGUYMan  over a year ago

Hull


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

Scroll up to the title of this thread. That's what some people seem to be defending Trump against. And it is astonishing.

Why is that Trump's fault?

Um ... because he's been an incompetent President during a pandemic that resulted in 200,000 American deaths? Just a thought.

Why is he responsible?

He's been found out to have downplayed the importance of the virus and how it would affect all American citizens.

At the start of his time in office, he dismantled and closed the health and pandemic authorities who would've been best to have battled this pandemic across the States.

He has diverted funding destined for health matters to building up the Military and Defence.

He's been constantly at odds with Scientific experts, as he has no knowledge of such matters nor cares to learn about Science as a whole and how it works for his country.

That's just the start!

What would you have him do? Imprison the entire population? Damage the economy even more? Listen go to that useless wee bastard Fauci?

Maybe there are other experts he's listening to ?

Wellll ... I guess Trump might be listening to Frederick the invisible Wombat who only talks to him. Actually, that could explain a lot."

He only listens to the brown nose arse lickers who'll say anything positive to appease him (and keep their jobs)!

He doesn't like criticism, it always has to be good news conveyed to him either via his staff or from Vladimir Putin.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?"

you must really hate the concept of the NHS then.... i mean... how much more maniacal can you get than having Socialised medicine!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?"

If you think Biden is a socialist I have some magic beans you might just be interested in.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

I'm intrigued as to what sort of argument you think you are making here.

Using the same logic we should forget about 911 which killed a fraction of that and also the Vietnam War.

Donald Trump killed 3 times more Americans in 9 months than the Viet Cong did in 10 years."

For a guy his age he gets about a bit killing 200,000 in his spare time

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?"

If you think Biden is a socialist, you really need to give your head a wobble

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

Scroll up to the title of this thread. That's what some people seem to be defending Trump against. And it is astonishing.

Why is that Trump's fault?

Um ... because he's been an incompetent President during a pandemic that resulted in 200,000 American deaths? Just a thought.

Why is he responsible?

He's been found out to have downplayed the importance of the virus and how it would affect all American citizens.

At the start of his time in office, he dismantled and closed the health and pandemic authorities who would've been best to have battled this pandemic across the States.

He has diverted funding destined for health matters to building up the Military and Defence.

He's been constantly at odds with Scientific experts, as he has no knowledge of such matters nor cares to learn about Science as a whole and how it works for his country.

That's just the start!

What would you have him do? Imprison the entire population? Damage the economy even more? Listen go to that useless wee bastard Fauci?

Maybe there are other experts he's listening to ?"

It appears that you believe that Trump has more expertise than Fauci. On what basis do you say that? One is a lying charlatan who believes drinking bleach might be a good treatment and the other is a well qualified expert on diseases

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By *oan of DArcCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?"

America's already 'wrecked', systematically taken apart by a man who promised to make it great again and drain the swamp, remember?

America rests on its knees whilst the (self interested) pond life ravages the water course.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I do wonder what is missing from the lives of people so desperate to defend the likes of Trump.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

this says it all....

"Who do you trust more on information about the coronavirus?" via new Quinnipiac poll:

Democrats:

1% President Trump

97% CDC scientists

Republicans:

51% President Trump

36% CDC scientists

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You do realise this is 0.06% of the population of the USA

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise this is 0.06% of the population of the USA"

You do realise 200,000 people dead is a lot of dead people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise this is 0.06% of the population of the USA

You do realise 200,000 people dead is a lot of dead people."

I do indeed, do you know that the amount of people that die of cancer each year in the USA and UK are 605,000 and 165,000 respectively, which is around 0.25% of the population for each country. This will rise due to the shut down of the health service because of COVID hysteria.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise this is 0.06% of the population of the USA

You do realise 200,000 people dead is a lot of dead people.

I do indeed, do you know that the amount of people that die of cancer each year in the USA and UK are 605,000 and 165,000 respectively, which is around 0.25% of the population for each country. This will rise due to the shut down of the health service because of COVID hysteria."

Covid is a new virus. Despite its newness and despite various degrees of lockdown and despite social distancing and despite masks, it's killed 200,000 people in the USA. Without all those measures, it would have killed many, many more.

Do you really think countries all round the world would have taken such major measures unless they had to? Do you think the entire world is being hysterical about this? Despite the huge financial cost? They did it because they knew there would have been far more deaths otherwise and health systems would have crumbled under the impossible demand.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise this is 0.06% of the population of the USA

You do realise 200,000 people dead is a lot of dead people.

I do indeed, do you know that the amount of people that die of cancer each year in the USA and UK are 605,000 and 165,000 respectively, which is around 0.25% of the population for each country. This will rise due to the shut down of the health service because of COVID hysteria.

Covid is a new virus. Despite its newness and despite various degrees of lockdown and despite social distancing and despite masks, it's killed 200,000 people in the USA. Without all those measures, it would have killed many, many more.

Do you really think countries all round the world would have taken such major measures unless they had to? Do you think the entire world is being hysterical about this? Despite the huge financial cost? They did it because they knew there would have been far more deaths otherwise and health systems would have crumbled under the impossible demand."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise this is 0.06% of the population of the USA

You do realise 200,000 people dead is a lot of dead people.

I do indeed, do you know that the amount of people that die of cancer each year in the USA and UK are 605,000 and 165,000 respectively, which is around 0.25% of the population for each country. This will rise due to the shut down of the health service because of COVID hysteria.

Covid is a new virus. Despite its newness and despite various degrees of lockdown and despite social distancing and despite masks, it's killed 200,000 people in the USA. Without all those measures, it would have killed many, many more.

Do you really think countries all round the world would have taken such major measures unless they had to? Do you think the entire world is being hysterical about this? Despite the huge financial cost? They did it because they knew there would have been far more deaths otherwise and health systems would have crumbled under the impossible demand."

I’m not arguing against the restrictions, I’m highlighting the statistics

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise this is 0.06% of the population of the USA

You do realise 200,000 people dead is a lot of dead people.

I do indeed, do you know that the amount of people that die of cancer each year in the USA and UK are 605,000 and 165,000 respectively, which is around 0.25% of the population for each country. This will rise due to the shut down of the health service because of COVID hysteria.

Covid is a new virus. Despite its newness and despite various degrees of lockdown and despite social distancing and despite masks, it's killed 200,000 people in the USA. Without all those measures, it would have killed many, many more.

Do you really think countries all round the world would have taken such major measures unless they had to? Do you think the entire world is being hysterical about this? Despite the huge financial cost? They did it because they knew there would have been far more deaths otherwise and health systems would have crumbled under the impossible demand.

I’m not arguing against the restrictions, I’m highlighting the statistics "

But you're ignoring the fact the number of Covid deaths would have been much, much higher without a huge effort made all around the world to restruct the virus. And you're ignoring the fact an avalanche of Covid victims all at once could have overwhelmed national healthcare systems.

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By *HaRiFMan  over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

There, here its all very depressing isn't it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You do realise this is 0.06% of the population of the USA

You do realise 200,000 people dead is a lot of dead people.

I do indeed, do you know that the amount of people that die of cancer each year in the USA and UK are 605,000 and 165,000 respectively, which is around 0.25% of the population for each country. This will rise due to the shut down of the health service because of COVID hysteria.

Covid is a new virus. Despite its newness and despite various degrees of lockdown and despite social distancing and despite masks, it's killed 200,000 people in the USA. Without all those measures, it would have killed many, many more.

Do you really think countries all round the world would have taken such major measures unless they had to? Do you think the entire world is being hysterical about this? Despite the huge financial cost? They did it because they knew there would have been far more deaths otherwise and health systems would have crumbled under the impossible demand.

I’m not arguing against the restrictions, I’m highlighting the statistics

But you're ignoring the fact the number of Covid deaths would have been much, much higher without a huge effort made all around the world to restruct the virus. And you're ignoring the fact an avalanche of Covid victims all at once could have overwhelmed national healthcare systems."

Incorrect, I’m highlighting the statistics, I’ve made no comment on healthcare systems etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You're trying to downplay the danger of the virus. Clearly. You referred to "Covid hysteria".

You also complained about "the shut down of the health service". So you were talking about more than just stats.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You're trying to downplay the danger of the virus. Clearly. You referred to "Covid hysteria".

You also complained about "the shut down of the health service". So you were talking about more than just stats."

So you disagree that the health service has been effectively shutdown to deal with COVID?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You're trying to downplay the danger of the virus. Clearly. You referred to "Covid hysteria".

You also complained about "the shut down of the health service". So you were talking about more than just stats.

So you disagree that the health service has been effectively shutdown to deal with COVID?"

Shifting the goalposts suddenly?

When did I say anything about if the health service had been shut down or not?

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By *ookMan  over a year ago

london

I’m not a fan of trump or Boris either but it seems to me the figures in USA are actually on par with uk when you consider size of country? Sure someone will quote some figures to me though! We seem to have desensitise ourselves to death because of graphs and media coverage and I’m guessing those who are directly impacted have a much different view. People have died (lots of them) some through disease and many suicides etc not recorded! Figures seem to wash over us now and for me it’s more about sensible practical solutions that change things for the better rather than moaning and blaming which to be honest I’m sick of. This is a terrible world disease that impacts everyone. Time to face up to the fact this is with us now and work together to try and make things better! Sermon over

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"this says it all....

"Who do you trust more on information about the coronavirus?" via new Quinnipiac poll:

Democrats:

1% President Trump

97% CDC scientists

Republicans:

51% President Trump

36% CDC scientists"

What does it say? What conclusions do you draw from the sensationalist and not unsurprising outcome? What was the size of the Poll? What were the questions asked.? There's no "don't know / undecided" response? Which side of the binary question did the don't knows fall into.? What was the context of the question? Ie was it at a yahoo boys political rally or via post or radio phone in or...?

Further we all know that there are scientists, especially in the pharma vertical have results lead by whomever is funding their research.. Or they find themselves out of a job or out of funding. There seems a notion that scientists are all knowing, all empirical, all sharing. The world of science is equally as challenged by human frailties as any other sector.

So far the science in this tells us... Wash our hands, keep our distance, cover our nose and mouth....and not a lot else.

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By *eedsmale36Man  over a year ago

Leeds


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

I'd their testing is as shit as ours I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Germany testing is not good either the problem is the behavior of people stop blaming the government

The government have handled this appallingly six months to get ready for this ... no tests available and not a bloody clue what they’re doing. For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders.

"... For that the blame lays squarely on their shoulders..."

---------------

The blame lies on both sides in my view. Part of it lies with the way the government has handled it, the other part lies with some members of the public who have not been compliant with the guidance given. I have not said the government is doing things right,they have done much wrong but you still have to help yourself,just blaming the government is a cop out

Do you believe the government should set an example to it's people?

For instance do you expect people to take Boris seriously when he tells us to social distance then attends an international rugby match. Tells us to wash our hands then shake one hand after another in a hospital. Then excuse Dominic Cummings with a story an idiot with an IQ of 70 wouldn't believe.

Absolutely not.

They all have the morals of a stoat and are as crooked as the day is long.

That's not a moral example I want to live down to.

However, just because they're being arses, it doesn't make sense to copy their example and become one as well.

We all know what we need to do now and we should just do what keeps us all safe."

Leave the Stoats out of this, it’s the fucking weasels we need to be looking at

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

I'm intrigued as to what sort of argument you think you are making here.

Using the same logic we should forget about 911 which killed a fraction of that and also the Vietnam War.

Donald Trump killed 3 times more Americans in 9 months than the Viet Cong did in 10 years.

For a guy his age he gets about a bit killing 200,000 in his spare time "

Well in that case you would have to say that Hitler never killed any Jews, Charles Manson never killed anyone, and the person who ordered the Titanic to full steam ahead never killed anyone.

And Osama Bin Ladin never killed anyone in 911.

Trump diverted ventilators ordered by predominantly Democrat states to go to Republican states.

It was an American president who coined the phrase "The buck stops here"...

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By *amb_ManMan  over a year ago

Peterborough

Uk deaths 41,000. US 200,000. US population is five times that of the UK. Sometimes it’s just easier to criticize someone else’s problems than it is to look at our own.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Uk deaths 41,000. US 200,000. US population is five times that of the UK. Sometimes it’s just easier to criticize someone else’s problems than it is to look at our own. "

There was a report coming out of New York that there were 10 times the number of home deaths compared to same time in 2019. None of them registered as Covid-19 deaths. Just a coincidental 1000% increase of unexplained deaths during a pandemic...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

According to Trump, by easter they were going to have a wonderful time and the churches would be packed.

Well there were a lot of chuch attendees over easter but they were all wearing black and didn't look happy to be there.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Uk deaths 41,000. US 200,000. US population is five times that of the UK. Sometimes it’s just easier to criticize someone else’s problems than it is to look at our own. "

And the US is huge with vast expanses of open land.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Uk deaths 41,000. US 200,000. US population is five times that of the UK. Sometimes it’s just easier to criticize someone else’s problems than it is to look at our own.

And the US is huge with vast expanses of open land."

They also has advanced warning even longer than our own advanced warning.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan  over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so."

Exactly. It's a pandemic & people will die. I don't know what people expect.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

I'm intrigued as to what sort of argument you think you are making here.

Using the same logic we should forget about 911 which killed a fraction of that and also the Vietnam War.

Donald Trump killed 3 times more Americans in 9 months than the Viet Cong did in 10 years.

How has trump killed them?

Love the way some just ignore personal responsibility.

People make their own choices. There's plenty on here meeting up, there's even social events organised and still going ahead. There's parties happening all over, people are blatantly ignoring what is the right thing to be doing. That's not our leaders fault. That's plane selfishness a the height of stupidity, knowingly doing what is wrong.

Trump was briefed on 24 January 2020 about the reality of Covid-19. He then went out and told his people that Covid-19 was a "hoax" and that it would go away on it's own. He has lied repeatedly through the entire crisis and people have believed him and died as a consequence.

Briefed? By whom? Fauci?

That's good enough reason to disregard it.

"

Where did I mention Fauci? You did that. By the way Fauci has been right most times whilst Trump has been wrong most times.

Actually he was informed by US intelligence.

Here is tweet from Trump 24 February 2020

"The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

Anyone in a global health crisis that puts the views of this American president above that of someone in the position that Fauci is needs to reset the logic..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As that Australian American Scot said freeeedoooom

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

A huge death toll , unless they lock down as a federal measure this is going to rise massively

Prove it."

No proof need. Common sense however is needed

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By *oan of DArcCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

Exactly. It's a pandemic & people will die. I don't know what people expect.

"

People probably expect that the exponential risk is managed as effectively as it possibly can be to minimise the numbers who'll die.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't think anyone expected no one to die.

But then holding mass political rallies in crowded stadiums for an upcoming election probably isn't in the WHO handbook either...

"With the coronavirus still spreading, Mr Trump has now restarted campaign rallies, bringing fresh controversy to new communities. This month, thousands of people, many without masks, crowded into an indoor manufacturing facility in Nevada to hear the president speak, defying a state directive to limit gatherings to 50 people. Nevada governor Steve Sisolak, a Democrat, called Mr Trump's actions "shameful, dangerous, and irresponsible". The director of the state's coronavirus response predicted a spike in cases because of the campaign event"

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By *D835Man  over a year ago

London


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

That's about 10% of the annual death rate in the USA.

Population 350 million.

So that's about 0.06% of the total population. Is that right?

Yeah I think so.

Exactly. It's a pandemic & people will die. I don't know what people expect.

People probably expect that the exponential risk is managed as effectively as it possibly can be to minimise the numbers who'll die."

“......People probably expect that the exponential risk is managed as effectively as it possibly can be to minimise the numbers who'll die....”

————————————-

This

The fact that *people will die anyway* in a pandemic, is not an excuse to just sit back and do nothing.

By taking appropriate & decisive action, the number of deaths can be greatly reduced.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I don't think anyone expected no one to die.

But then holding mass political rallies in crowded stadiums for an upcoming election probably isn't in the WHO handbook either...

"With the coronavirus still spreading, Mr Trump has now restarted campaign rallies, bringing fresh controversy to new communities. This month, thousands of people, many without masks, crowded into an indoor manufacturing facility in Nevada to hear the president speak, defying a state directive to limit gatherings to 50 people. Nevada governor Steve Sisolak, a Democrat, called Mr Trump's actions "shameful, dangerous, and irresponsible". The director of the state's coronavirus response predicted a spike in cases because of the campaign event""

He should be prosecuted for it...he brings narcissism to a new level

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

“Now we know it affects elderly people. Elderly people with heart problems and other problems. If they have other problems, that’s what it really affects. That’s it. In some states nobody young. They have a strong immune system - who knows. Take your hat off to the young because they have a hell of an immune system. It affects virtually no one. Open your schools”.

That claim that has been thoroughly debunked but still hundreds of supporters tightly packed in to hear the president’s speech whistled and cheered.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"“Now we know it affects elderly people. Elderly people with heart problems and other problems. If they have other problems, that’s what it really affects. That’s it. In some states nobody young. They have a strong immune system - who knows. Take your hat off to the young because they have a hell of an immune system. It affects virtually no one. Open your schools”.

That claim that has been thoroughly debunked but still hundreds of supporters tightly packed in to hear the president’s speech whistled and cheered."

an interesting question to trump supporters:

why do the crowd behind him have such a high number of mask usage?

and the 99% mainly off camera are predominantly maskless?

Just to help trumpturd brains,here is a clue, he is a lying,dangerous stupid cunt.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"“Now we know it affects elderly people. Elderly people with heart problems and other problems. If they have other problems, that’s what it really affects. That’s it. In some states nobody young. They have a strong immune system - who knows. Take your hat off to the young because they have a hell of an immune system. It affects virtually no one. Open your schools”.

That claim that has been thoroughly debunked but still hundreds of supporters tightly packed in to hear the president’s speech whistled and cheered.

an interesting question to trump supporters:

why do the crowd behind him have such a high number of mask usage?

and the 99% mainly off camera are predominantly maskless?

Just to help trumpturd brains,here is a clue, he is a lying,dangerous stupid cunt."

Just watched "You've been Trumped" and "You've been Trumped Too"

He's a piece of work that's for sure.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS  over a year ago

paisley

I believe it was Diane Abbot who did the figures

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester


"Land of the free ... home of the brave"

Only if the have been to Wal-mart and bought a gun.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Also 3.5 percent of young people suffer from a genetic defect that curbs the activity of Type I Interferons which may result in Covid-19 fatality.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Land of the free ... home of the brave

Only if the have been to Wal-mart and bought a gun. "

Passion for the second ammendment decreases substationally when people are told that someone they love has been gunned down in a mass shooting by someone who had no right owning a gun.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

oh, and florida's going herd mentality now

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By *om girlCouple (FF)  over a year ago

South Yorkshire

They keep on giving people death figures witch sounds a lot but let’s put it the other way

What % of people died in the population 0.04% yes every death one to many but People die every day

And what they not talking about is how many more are going to die due to hospitals not doing route treatments

So people please try to have a different outlook on it...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They keep on giving people death figures witch sounds a lot but let’s put it the other way

What % of people died in the population 0.04% yes every death one to many but People die every day

And what they not talking about is how many more are going to die due to hospitals not doing route treatments

So people please try to have a different outlook on it...

"

your stats appear to be at odds with reality for the following reasons.

it's a transmissible virus.

go to a hospital with an injury or health condition and catch the virus- your odds become stacked against you.

gasping for breath is something I'd never wish upon anyone,especially if already very unwell.

I've had the virus,it might be part of the flu family etc however it feels horrific gasping for air.

I've seen you make the same point earlier,I just wonder what you might think when we have more flu's coming and cross covid/flu infections will be higher.

there is your different outlook,based on the information most are aware of,yet some stupidly wish to ignore.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Who is in charge in America? Trump is president but each state has a governor in charge of that state's covid response.

Some states have Republican governors and some have Democrat.

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By *ty31Man  over a year ago

NW London

A country with a population of 350million and a well documented issue with obesity

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who is in charge in America? Trump is president but each state has a governor in charge of that state's covid response.

Some states have Republican governors and some have Democrat."

you are correct,but if you want to leave out the finer details that's fine.

it should not be a bipartisan approach.In some cases it's a federal matter.

funny how the virus is a state matter,but the 'widespread' rioting is a federal one when it 'needs' to be.

trump recently violated state law at one of his last rallies.............well because, he's the president and a self serving lying idiot cunt.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who is in charge in America? Trump is president but each state has a governor in charge of that state's covid response.

Some states have Republican governors and some have Democrat.

you are correct,but if you want to leave out the finer details that's fine.

it should not be a bipartisan approach.In some cases it's a federal matter.

funny how the virus is a state matter,but the 'widespread' rioting is a federal one when it 'needs' to be.

trump recently violated state law at one of his last rallies.............well because, he's the president and a self serving lying idiot cunt."

I don't know the finer details, hence my question.

I am being fed information by a Trump supporter so I'm fairly confident it's skewed.

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By *addy7.5x6Man  over a year ago

High Wycombe

The US has almost exactly five times the population of the UK. Dividing 200,000 by five gives 40,000.

UK total 41,971 as of yesterday.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who is in charge in America? Trump is president but each state has a governor in charge of that state's covid response.

Some states have Republican governors and some have Democrat.

you are correct,but if you want to leave out the finer details that's fine.

it should not be a bipartisan approach.In some cases it's a federal matter.

funny how the virus is a state matter,but the 'widespread' rioting is a federal one when it 'needs' to be.

trump recently violated state law at one of his last rallies.............well because, he's the president and a self serving lying idiot cunt.

I don't know the finer details, hence my question.

I am being fed information by a Trump supporter so I'm fairly confident it's skewed. "

glad you have some skepticism.

one example: new york(democrat) pays more towards the USA than any other state. Trump started a twitter war and has been booted down for his idiocy.

without getting deeper into the politics,lets just see his actions:

he denied the virus threat publicly

held rallies

played golf

admitted to woodward on tape it was a deadly virus.

mocked masks

held rallies

cleared a street of protesters with force to stand in front of a church with a bible.

has the CDC change it's data

benched his two top doctors on virus task force

claims the wildfires on forests not being properly raked

claims several antifa men dressed in black boarded a plane to cause havoc in another state(which was actually a rightwing idiots facebook made up post several months earlier)

defends a 17 yr old who jumped states and killed two people.

tweets absolute shite literally half of the day and watches fox news the other half(as well as another qanon led news channel)

made up antifa as a terrorist organisation that the fbi dont even list.

made up a huge voting conspiracy lie.

I forget the fact checks,basic lies etc, but it's something like a 1000 or more lies.

consistently getting his lies and misinformation fact checked and censored by social media.

embraced fucking idiotic whackjobs:-

qanon idiots

religious rapist demon sperm claiming doctor

these are all easy to find.

I do my best to find anything out before I post it, possibly 75% of the above is all trump on video as it happened, no need for editing out details etc.

hope I've helped.

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By *ammisuxTV/TS  over a year ago

Uxbridge


"Are some people still defending Trump? Even now? Astonishing.

Defending him against what exactly?

Are you defending sleepy joe and his maniacal socialist plans to wreck America?

If you think Biden is a socialist I have some magic beans you might just be interested in."

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By *ammisuxTV/TS  over a year ago

Uxbridge

Regardless of what anyone thinks of him here and let's face it we are all biased one way or the other he is on course to bury Biden with the election with the help of the American people at the ballot box.

We have the debates coming up and if you think Biden will wipe the floor with Trump at a debate you are not paying attention.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Depends how you test for it. What test are they using to diagnose????

Hope it's not RT-PCR cause it's not diagnostic.

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By *addy7.5x6Man  over a year ago

High Wycombe


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this "

It's about the same percentage of the population as in the UK. Five times the population, five times the deaths.

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By *ionelhutzMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"I believe it was Diane Abbot who did the figures"

Yawns.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

It's about the same percentage of the population as in the UK. Five times the population, five times the deaths. "

So why has this year got the lowest death rate of the past 5 years?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

It's about the same percentage of the population as in the UK. Five times the population, five times the deaths.

So why has this year got the lowest death rate of the past 5 years?"

Probably because most of the country spent a third of the year not leaving their home.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I believe it was Diane Abbot who did the figures"

Sure it wasn’t priti patel?

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By *oan of DArcCouple  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Regardless of what anyone thinks of him here and let's face it we are all biased one way or the other he is on course to bury Biden with the election with the help of the American people at the ballot box.

We have the debates coming up and if you think Biden will wipe the floor with Trump at a debate you are not paying attention."

Is your position based on demonstrable facts or more a case of wishful thinking?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard it on sky news...its pretty grim and should make us all have a reality check on this

It's about the same percentage of the population as in the UK. Five times the population, five times the deaths. "

The population makeup of UK is: England (84.25), Scotland (8.2%), Wales (4.7%), and Northern Ireland (2.8%)

UK = 66 Million

USA 326 Million

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