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"Boris gets his bit on Tuesday doesn’t he? They probably want to get their bit in first without the buffoonery " FTFY And yep. | |||
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"Is it wierd that it's just those 2?" I must admit, there's nothing more I like than an expert not fully agreeing with the minister chosen to chair/present a briefing. | |||
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. " Your quite correct it's nothing like March. March is the beginning of spring and October is the beginning of winter The rest unfortunately is bullshit | |||
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"Is it wierd that it's just those 2?" Don't think so, it's a buffer again to allow Boris etc to say they are following the scientific experts.. | |||
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. Your quite correct it's nothing like March. March is the beginning of spring and October is the beginning of winter The rest unfortunately is bullshit" So you're saying winter is 5 months long?  | |||
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. Your quite correct it's nothing like March. March is the beginning of spring and October is the beginning of winter The rest unfortunately is bullshit"   | |||
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"Is it wierd that it's just those 2? Don't think so, it's a buffer again to allow Boris etc to say they are following the scientific experts.." The thing to remember is that scientists can have opposing views, both evidenced based, but one has to consider the validity. Anyway, the ministers are accountable not their advisors. It's one true thing Hancock has stated and restated and true  | |||
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. " DHSC (ie down to Hancock) didn't take the then Who's advice to get two neg tests before discharging patients to care homes. | |||
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"So the two senior medical and scientific officials are to hold a briefing today, without the PM. " Trying to keep the science and politics separate for a change  | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed " Well we are told we are a few weeks behind spain and from the 14th to the 17th there were 603 covid deaths so i think its quite right we should still be covid obsessed. | |||
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"The government has looked increasingly through this disaster as glad to have scapegoats to blame. Pushing these 2 alone to make a pre-agreed acceptable to Johnson and Cummings briefing, provides a good opportunity to help do so. The very recent hints that they seem to be dropping are that it's the public who are to blame and to try to frighten us with a future full lockdown returning if we can't behave. They've been trying to blame the public for trying to get too many tests, such as when they are asymptomatic, rather than the government admitting that they didn't plan and implement adequate testing and tracing quantities and abilities, for example. Testing must be readily available very quickly and results very quick too, to ensure that the infected know it and are limited from spreading it any further. It's absolutely stupid to culture normality of people not being tested, knowing their status and then being no worse off, whilst they quarantine. Instead we get the sticks being waved about of the £10,000 fines, to appease voters and to keep the blame on the people, instead of the government for not resourcing appropriate testing and tracing services. Expect grave warnings, some blame hinted at and the fear being dished out of lockdowns again, when the PUPBLIC fail at what they should be doing. " It is the public's fault. They voted in a one issue govt that cannot even do that! This crisis is apolitical and should have a combined team of all parties. Though the theory is good, they'd never get anything done  | |||
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"Is this the same Spain that has a 100% mandatory mask mandate, yeah let's all copy Spain, the case increase never started over here untill they lost their fricken minds over masks,let that sink in. " Correlation not causation | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed " You have to remember that there is a massive project ongoing to try to control covid, and still 25 people died and 4000 new infections were recorded. There are no figures for flu at the moment (as it's out of season) and the government isn't doing anything to reduce suicides. So really you're not comparing apples with apples. Regardless of whether you feel that it's an overreaction or not. The situation will not change until the daily new infection rates are very low (below 50 possibly). The more people cry about the situation and refuse to play their part, the longer it will take to resolve. Cal | |||
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"Is this the same Spain that has a 100% mandatory mask mandate, yeah let's all copy Spain, the case increase never started over here untill they lost their fricken minds over masks,let that sink in. " What do you think the figures would be without wearing masks lower??????????? | |||
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"So the two senior medical and scientific officials are to hold a briefing today, without the PM. " Stan and Ollie. But without the humour. | |||
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"Boris gets his bit on Tuesday doesn’t he? They probably want to get their bit in first with the buffoonery " Lol brilliant. | |||
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"Is it wierd that it's just those 2?" Where are the other experts with differing opinions?? | |||
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"Is it wierd that it's just those 2? Where are the other experts with differing opinions??" Lots of if this if that in there statement and graphs.. | |||
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"Boris gets his bit on Tuesday doesn’t he? They probably want to get their bit in first with the buffoonery " Zzzzz | |||
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"Is this the same Spain that has a 100% mandatory mask mandate, yeah let's all copy Spain, the case increase never started over here untill they lost their fricken minds over masks,let that sink in. Correlation not causation ". Yea that's why we study correlation to see if there's causation. | |||
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"They may well have just said lockdown is coming unless you all buck your ideas up...." Ahhh the naughty step for disfunctional toddlers | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new!" Probably just a slip of the tongue when he meant repurposed for a new use. | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new!" I think he's implying it's a new drug to treat the virus that wasn't being used at the start of the pandemic. He seemed very nervous to me. Not characteristic of him at all. | |||
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"A question that arose in my mind is why locations affect the level of antibodies? Vallance stated approx 8% of survivors have antibodies but could rise to 17% in London. Without explanation. I have a couple of ideas but that is all they are. I actually think Vallance maybe just giving the lowest of possible figures rather than a range. I think it's a case of keep an eye on global studies done at a high standard. " Very much agree with this. | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! Probably just a slip of the tongue when he meant repurposed for a new use." It's a steroidal anti-inflammatory, how is that a new use? | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! Probably just a slip of the tongue when he meant repurposed for a new use. It's a steroidal anti-inflammatory, how is that a new use? " . I don't know how or what there using it for in fighting covid. Why don't you ask Google and see what it says?. | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! I think he's implying it's a new drug to treat the virus that wasn't being used at the start of the pandemic. He seemed very nervous to me. Not characteristic of him at all. " Yes and it surprised me to discover that it wasn't being used early on for those people whose immune systems went into overdrive, causing excessive inflammation. | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! Probably just a slip of the tongue when he meant repurposed for a new use. It's a steroidal anti-inflammatory, how is that a new use? . I don't know how or what there using it for in fighting covid. Why don't you ask Google and see what it says?." I don't need to, I'm a student of medical sciences. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed " The suicide number is rather unlikely to start to double every week is it? I think you are being disgustingly disingenuous with your figures, you are comparing a weekly suicide figure with a daily Covid deaths figure. The rolling 7 day Covid figure is about 100 deaths. Yes it’s below the suicide number but not by much and if the current trend continues Covid deaths will shortly blitz past the suicide numbers. An appalling act of misinformation, I hope it was accidental. Please clue up or shut up. Thank you | |||
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"The government has looked increasingly through this disaster as glad to have scapegoats to blame. Pushing these 2 alone to make a pre-agreed acceptable to Johnson and Cummings briefing, provides a good opportunity to help do so. The very recent hints that they seem to be dropping are that it's the public who are to blame and to try to frighten us with a future full lockdown returning if we can't behave. They've been trying to blame the public for trying to get too many tests, such as when they are asymptomatic, rather than the government admitting that they didn't plan and implement adequate testing and tracing quantities and abilities, for example. Testing must be readily available very quickly and results very quick too, to ensure that the infected know it and are limited from spreading it any further. It's absolutely stupid to culture normality of people not being tested, knowing their status and then being no worse off, whilst they quarantine. Instead we get the sticks being waved about of the £10,000 fines, to appease voters and to keep the blame on the people, instead of the government for not resourcing appropriate testing and tracing services. Expect grave warnings, some blame hinted at and the fear being dished out of lockdowns again, when the PUPBLIC fail at what they should be doing. It is the public's fault. They voted in a one issue govt that cannot even do that! This crisis is apolitical and should have a combined team of all parties. Though the theory is good, they'd never get anything done "They have are continuing to do. We can’t trust labour. Starmer had his first chance to show us what he means on Marr yesterday and bottle every question. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed The suicide number is rather unlikely to start to double every week is it? I think you are being disgustingly disingenuous with your figures, you are comparing a weekly suicide figure with a daily Covid deaths figure. The rolling 7 day Covid figure is about 100 deaths. Yes it’s below the suicide number but not by much and if the current trend continues Covid deaths will shortly blitz past the suicide numbers. An appalling act of misinformation, I hope it was accidental. Please clue up or shut up. Thank you " Hear, hear. The stuff that some people post here is not just rubbish - it’s dangerous rubbish. | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! Probably just a slip of the tongue when he meant repurposed for a new use. It's a steroidal anti-inflammatory, how is that a new use? . I don't know how or what there using it for in fighting covid. Why don't you ask Google and see what it says?." To reduce the amount of people who need to be put on ventilation | |||
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"Well that could have been transmitted from China. Half the graphs where completly made up, and just count the times they used the words, if, buts and, maybe, One thing was clear though, these two dont give a toss about the economy. Oh yeah it got a 3 second token gesture sound bite. One thing is clear the media are gonna run and fun with this and try to send everyone into a fricken frenzy, " I'd like to know how the greatest rise was the 20-29 years age group, when the graphs of two weeks ago  were the 10-19 and 20-29 groups but on closer inspection 17-21?
Yes it still includes 20-29, but the presentation diverts "blame" seemingly to a new group, from education age (further and higher) to young adults.
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! Probably just a slip of the tongue when he meant repurposed for a new use. It's a steroidal anti-inflammatory, how is that a new use? . I don't know how or what there using it for in fighting covid. Why don't you ask Google and see what it says?. To reduce the amount of people who need to be put on ventilation "It's not a new use - it's an anti-inflammatory. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed You have to remember that there is a massive project ongoing to try to control covid, and still 25 people died and 4000 new infections were recorded. There are no figures for flu at the moment (as it's out of season) and the government isn't doing anything to reduce suicides. So really you're not comparing apples with apples. Regardless of whether you feel that it's an overreaction or not. The situation will not change until the daily new infection rates are very low (below 50 possibly). The more people cry about the situation and refuse to play their part, the longer it will take to resolve. Cal" Amen to this! | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed " The average number of suicides per week in 2018, in the UK, was 131. In 2019 the average number per week for England and Wales was 109. I know how you are keen on statistics so how do you account for the numbers having decreased in the last 2 years? | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! I think he's implying it's a new drug to treat the virus that wasn't being used at the start of the pandemic. He seemed very nervous to me. Not characteristic of him at all. Yes and it surprised me to discover that it wasn't being used early on for those people whose immune systems went into overdrive, causing excessive inflammation. " Hopefully that will be a point raised when we finally have an investigation into how this pandemic was handled. | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! I think he's implying it's a new drug to treat the virus that wasn't being used at the start of the pandemic. He seemed very nervous to me. Not characteristic of him at all. Yes and it surprised me to discover that it wasn't being used early on for those people whose immune systems went into overdrive, causing excessive inflammation. Hopefully that will be a point raised when we finally have an investigation into how this pandemic was handled. " If we ever do have a public inquiry.. | |||
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"Well that could have been transmitted from China. Half the graphs where completly made up, and just count the times they used the words, if, buts and, maybe, One thing was clear though, these two dont give a toss about the economy. Oh yeah it got a 3 second token gesture sound bite. One thing is clear the media are gonna run and fun with this and try to send everyone into a fricken frenzy, " Yes they are because its happening and extremely serious again . We surely need another lockdown? | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed The suicide number is rather unlikely to start to double every week is it? I think you are being disgustingly disingenuous with your figures, you are comparing a weekly suicide figure with a daily Covid deaths figure. The rolling 7 day Covid figure is about 100 deaths. Yes it’s below the suicide number but not by much and if the current trend continues Covid deaths will shortly blitz past the suicide numbers. An appalling act of misinformation, I hope it was accidental. Please clue up or shut up. Thank you "
It's just a pointless comparison.
We took extreme action to curb Covid deaths. If we went to a similar level of action on mental health support we'd get suicide numbers right down too.
People just keep falling into the 'numbers are low so what's the big deal' trap. | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! I think he's implying it's a new drug to treat the virus that wasn't being used at the start of the pandemic. He seemed very nervous to me. Not characteristic of him at all. Yes and it surprised me to discover that it wasn't being used early on for those people whose immune systems went into overdrive, causing excessive inflammation. Hopefully that will be a point raised when we finally have an investigation into how this pandemic was handled. " Having scan read BNF and Who's use of corticosteroids, I note that some viral infections are exacerbated by drugs such as dex. It is only to be used in cases of severe or critical covid, ie when benefits should outweigh harm. I realised there'd be contraindications (not just the one mentioned), cautions and side-effects, but that goes out the window when someone's life is in on the edge, like with the overactive immune system that isn't switching off the inflammatory response. | |||
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"Well that could have been transmitted from China. Half the graphs where completly made up, and just count the times they used the words, if, buts and, maybe, One thing was clear though, these two dont give a toss about the economy. Oh yeah it got a 3 second token gesture sound bite. One thing is clear the media are gonna run and fun with this and try to send everyone into a fricken frenzy, " They use 'if' and 'maybe' because they don't have a crystal ball and making definitive predictions would be unscientific and dishonest. That's just a really ignorant thing to criticise them for. | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! I think he's implying it's a new drug to treat the virus that wasn't being used at the start of the pandemic. He seemed very nervous to me. Not characteristic of him at all. Yes and it surprised me to discover that it wasn't being used early on for those people whose immune systems went into overdrive, causing excessive inflammation. Hopefully that will be a point raised when we finally have an investigation into how this pandemic was handled. Having scan read BNF and Who's use of corticosteroids, I note that some viral infections are exacerbated by drugs such as dex. It is only to be used in cases of severe or critical covid, ie when benefits should outweigh harm. I realised there'd be contraindications (not just the one mentioned), cautions and side-effects, but that goes out the window when someone's life is in on the edge, like with the overactive immune system that isn't switching off the inflammatory response. " They told my step mum very early on (4 days) into my dad's intensive care stay they had done all they could. He passed 3 days later. | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! I think he's implying it's a new drug to treat the virus that wasn't being used at the start of the pandemic. He seemed very nervous to me. Not characteristic of him at all. Yes and it surprised me to discover that it wasn't being used early on for those people whose immune systems went into overdrive, causing excessive inflammation. Hopefully that will be a point raised when we finally have an investigation into how this pandemic was handled. Having scan read BNF and Who's use of corticosteroids, I note that some viral infections are exacerbated by drugs such as dex. It is only to be used in cases of severe or critical covid, ie when benefits should outweigh harm. I realised there'd be contraindications (not just the one mentioned), cautions and side-effects, but that goes out the window when someone's life is in on the edge, like with the overactive immune system that isn't switching off the inflammatory response. They told my step mum very early on (4 days) into my dad's intensive care stay they had done all they could. He passed 3 days later. " Sorry to hear that. Perhaps that point in time was pre dex use. | |||
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"Why has a chief medical officer (Whitty) called dexamethasone a new drug? It isn't new! I think he's implying it's a new drug to treat the virus that wasn't being used at the start of the pandemic. He seemed very nervous to me. Not characteristic of him at all. Yes and it surprised me to discover that it wasn't being used early on for those people whose immune systems went into overdrive, causing excessive inflammation. Hopefully that will be a point raised when we finally have an investigation into how this pandemic was handled. Having scan read BNF and Who's use of corticosteroids, I note that some viral infections are exacerbated by drugs such as dex. It is only to be used in cases of severe or critical covid, ie when benefits should outweigh harm. I realised there'd be contraindications (not just the one mentioned), cautions and side-effects, but that goes out the window when someone's life is in on the edge, like with the overactive immune system that isn't switching off the inflammatory response. They told my step mum very early on (4 days) into my dad's intensive care stay they had done all they could. He passed 3 days later. Sorry to hear that. Perhaps that point in time was pre dex use. " It was. | |||
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"Didn’t the London graphic they showed show the rate is increasing in most parts of London?" It has been rising in london over the last few weeks but the infection rate has been dropping the last few days in most of london. Still has one of the highest infection rates in the country. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed The suicide number is rather unlikely to start to double every week is it? I think you are being disgustingly disingenuous with your figures, you are comparing a weekly suicide figure with a daily Covid deaths figure. The rolling 7 day Covid figure is about 100 deaths. Yes it’s below the suicide number but not by much and if the current trend continues Covid deaths will shortly blitz past the suicide numbers. An appalling act of misinformation, I hope it was accidental. Please clue up or shut up. Thank you " Just to correct you the rolling seven day average death figure is 21.29 not 100. | |||
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"numbers are down in london yet the mayor wants another lockdown. i think now we are being seriously lied too and this is becoming a way of controlling society with fear. if they are so determined to control and stop this virus why are illegals still being taken in and housed. surely anyone you dont know has to be stopped coming into the country to stop the spread. serco are buying old military based and housing loads of them. you cannot control a virus if you cannot control your borders and not once these so called specialists mentioned sweden and how they dealt with it. personally, i feel boris and every so called expert is lieing and being paid to lie and creat a fear factor across this nation." Can you provide a link which tells me illegal immigrants are given houses? I didnt know about that si be nice to read up on it Cheers. | |||
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"numbers are down in london yet the mayor wants another lockdown. i think now we are being seriously lied too and this is becoming a way of controlling society with fear. if they are so determined to control and stop this virus why are illegals still being taken in and housed. surely anyone you dont know has to be stopped coming into the country to stop the spread. serco are buying old military based and housing loads of them. you cannot control a virus if you cannot control your borders and not once these so called specialists mentioned sweden and how they dealt with it. personally, i feel boris and every so called expert is lieing and being paid to lie and creat a fear factor across this nation." I wondered how long it would be before someone decided to blame foreigners. I wonder what correlation there is between Brexit voters, Mask freedom fighters, and conspiracy theorists? | |||
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. " It is worse,open your eyes | |||
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"numbers are down in london yet the mayor wants another lockdown. i think now we are being seriously lied too and this is becoming a way of controlling society with fear. if they are so determined to control and stop this virus why are illegals still being taken in and housed. surely anyone you dont know has to be stopped coming into the country to stop the spread. serco are buying old military based and housing loads of them. you cannot control a virus if you cannot control your borders and not once these so called specialists mentioned sweden and how they dealt with it. personally, i feel boris and every so called expert is lieing and being paid to lie and creat a fear factor across this nation." Lying for what reason and who is paying them.. Ignore the Russians.. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Well we are told we are a few weeks behind spain and from the 14th to the 17th there were 603 covid deaths so i think its quite right we should still be covid obsessed. " In 3 days I don't think we will have no where near 603 deaths more like 100 if that. We are completely obsessed with covid. | |||
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"numbers are down in london yet the mayor wants another lockdown. i think now we are being seriously lied too and this is becoming a way of controlling society with fear. if they are so determined to control and stop this virus why are illegals still being taken in and housed. surely anyone you dont know has to be stopped coming into the country to stop the spread. serco are buying old military based and housing loads of them. you cannot control a virus if you cannot control your borders and not once these so called specialists mentioned sweden and how they dealt with it. personally, i feel boris and every so called expert is lieing and being paid to lie and creat a fear factor across this nation." It's good that we are continuing to give accommodation to the homeless, as just housing the vulnerable homeless for the earlier period of the epidemic is very short sighted verging on cruel. As earlier, the crux of our problems are infections gained here, a severe lack of testing and tracing, giving as near-immediate results back, so that people can be quarantined, recompensed to ensure the common good is served and local hotspots of infections from anywhere have resources focused on them to help to stop them spreading further. | |||
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. Your quite correct it's nothing like March. March is the beginning of spring and October is the beginning of winter The rest unfortunately is bullshit So you're saying winter is 5 months long? "There's 4 seasons ... I learned that in school, it's not difficult | |||
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"Is this the same Spain that has a 100% mandatory mask mandate, yeah let's all copy Spain, the case increase never started over here untill they lost their fricken minds over masks,let that sink in. " Wake up | |||
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. Your quite correct it's nothing like March. March is the beginning of spring and October is the beginning of winter The rest unfortunately is bullshit So you're saying winter is 5 months long?
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"numbers are down in london yet the mayor wants another lockdown. i think now we are being seriously lied too and this is becoming a way of controlling society with fear. if they are so determined to control and stop this virus why are illegals still being taken in and housed. surely anyone you dont know has to be stopped coming into the country to stop the spread. serco are buying old military based and housing loads of them. you cannot control a virus if you cannot control your borders and not once these so called specialists mentioned sweden and how they dealt with it. personally, i feel boris and every so called expert is lieing and being paid to lie and creat a fear factor across this nation. I wondered how long it would be before someone decided to blame foreigners. I wonder what correlation there is between Brexit voters, Mask freedom fighters, and conspiracy theorists?" 1/3 here | |||
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. Your quite correct it's nothing like March. March is the beginning of spring and October is the beginning of winter The rest unfortunately is bullshit So you're saying winter is 5 months long?
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"and people were shouting trump didnt know what he was doing. seems this countries leadership and experts are the just as bad." When he asked about injecting bleach you mean? | |||
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"and people were shouting trump didnt know what he was doing. seems this countries leadership and experts are the just as bad. When he asked about injecting bleach you mean?" Well. Every time he opens his mouth really! | |||
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"Winter 2020 Monday, 21 December and ends on Saturday, 20 March 2021" Nah don't believe ya 
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"Winter 2020 Monday, 21 December and ends on Saturday, 20 March 2021 Nah don't believe ya
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"Winter 2020 Monday, 21 December and ends on Saturday, 20 March 2021 Nah don't believe ya
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"Winter 2020 Monday, 21 December and ends on Saturday, 20 March 2021 Nah don't believe ya
I just don't want it to have definitive start and end dates (especially when the weather doesn't match expectations
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"Winter 2020 Monday, 21 December and ends on Saturday, 20 March 2021 Nah don't believe ya
I just don't want it to have definitive start and end dates (especially when the weather doesn't match expectations
I think they may change it each year like Easter lol
I wonder if it's to do with moon positions?
Something maybe to do with the alignment of Netflix and Eastenders? "Being the everso logical person I am, I like that idea more  . | |||
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"Winter 2020 Monday, 21 December and ends on Saturday, 20 March 2021 Nah don't believe ya
I just don't want it to have definitive start and end dates (especially when the weather doesn't match expectations
I think they may change it each year like Easter lol
I wonder if it's to do with moon positions?
Something maybe to do with the alignment of Netflix and Eastenders?
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"Winter 2020 Monday, 21 December and ends on Saturday, 20 March 2021 Nah don't believe ya
I just don't want it to have definitive start and end dates (especially when the weather doesn't match expectations
I think they may change it each year like Easter lol
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed " spot on | |||
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" Patrick Vallance saying: "The next slide is not a prediction..." then showing a slide with prediction without taking questions from the press. Result: the media now keep showing the graph scaring people without explanation or mentioning that it "is not a prediction"..." It was weird he said that because when he put the slide up he laboured the point that this is only the predicted outcome if we keep going the way we are and what was definitely going to happen. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on" Yeah, and here you are, reading and commenting on a thread about COVID | |||
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"Boris gets his bit on Tuesday doesn’t he? They probably want to get their bit in first with the buffoonery Zzzzz" it'll take him till Tuesday to come up with yet another wonderous three word slogan. That's all he's good at | |||
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"Boris gets his bit on Tuesday doesn’t he? They probably want to get their bit in first with the buffoonery Zzzzzit'll take him till Tuesday to come up with yet another wonderous three word slogan. That's all he's good at " Ha, I agree with that, | |||
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"Winter 2020 Monday, 21 December and ends on Saturday, 20 March 2021" In Aviation winter (de-icing season)is considered to run from when the clocks go back till when they go forward again | |||
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. Your quite correct it's nothing like March. March is the beginning of spring and October is the beginning of winter The rest unfortunately is bullshit So you're saying winter is 5 months long?
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I learned that in school, it's not difficult
In my school they told me that October was in autumn."October has a beginning and an end Maybe it's different in la la land | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed " Would you be happier if more people died of covid? | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on" How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? | |||
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. Your quite correct it's nothing like March. March is the beginning of spring and October is the beginning of winter The rest unfortunately is bullshit So you're saying winter is 5 months long?
There's 4 seasons ...
I learned that in school, it's not difficult
In my school they told me that October was in autumn.
October has a beginning and an end
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. Your quite correct it's nothing like March. March is the beginning of spring and October is the beginning of winter The rest unfortunately is bullshit So you're saying winter is 5 months long?
There's 4 seasons ...
I learned that in school, it's not difficult
In my school they told me that October was in autumn.
October has a beginning and an end
Maybe it's different in la la land "In a sense it won't be March. Firstly because the carehome madness shouldn't happen twice. Secondly we have Dexamethasone which reduces critical patient mortality by 35% On the other hand we are going into winter, the flu season and a gradual reduction in Vitamin D production. On top of this we really can't afford to tell people to stay at home another 6 months on furlough. Good news is that we can expect the first Chaddox vaccines to be available at the end of this year. | |||
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"Absolutely incredible, let’s have the Fab scientists on the podium "They can tell us how yellow winged mosquitoes in outer Mongolia kill more people than Covid-19. | |||
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"Absolutely incredible, let’s have the Fab scientists on the podium
They can tell us how yellow winged mosquitoes in outer Mongolia kill more people than Covid-19. "Female mosquitoes are the ones to watch out for, evil little devils | |||
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"Absolutely incredible, let’s have the Fab scientists on the podium
They can tell us how yellow winged mosquitoes in outer Mongolia kill more people than Covid-19.
Female mosquitoes are the ones to watch out for, evil little devils "I always check what sex they are before swatting them. | |||
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"The same two so called experts who said Jack when cov + Where rammed into care homes. Fearmongering101 This is nothing like March. Your quite correct it's nothing like March. March is the beginning of spring and October is the beginning of winter The rest unfortunately is bullshit So you're saying winter is 5 months long?
There's 4 seasons ...
I learned that in school, it's not difficult
In my school they told me that October was in autumn.
October has a beginning and an end
Maybe it's different in la la land
In a sense it won't be March. Firstly because the carehome madness shouldn't happen twice. Secondly we have Dexamethasone which reduces critical patient mortality by 35%
On the other hand we are going into winter, the flu season and a gradual reduction in Vitamin D production. On top of this we really can't afford to tell people to stay at home another 6 months on furlough.
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"I hope Boris is refreshed from his recent Italian holiday." Did he go there for an eye test ? | |||
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"I hope Boris is refreshed from his recent Italian holiday. Did he go there for an eye test ?" I’m not sure but I’m told Perugia is lovely | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Well we are told we are a few weeks behind spain and from the 14th to the 17th there were 603 covid deaths so i think its quite right we should still be covid obsessed. In 3 days I don't think we will have no where near 603 deaths more like 100 if that. We are completely obsessed with covid." thats nice you have a feeling about the number... how about some data or science to back it up? | |||
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"It seems we have gone into Level 4. What does this mean? According to the scale I have it means relaxing restrictions stops and social distancing continues. With so many new infections every day, that's very much a given. In fact surprising it's taken so long. " I haven't seen that chart for a while..what is level 5? As the infection rate r is definitely growing at a fast rate. | |||
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"Just watched sky news health correspondent raise serious questions about valances case predictions. As previously reported we are following the same trajectory as France and Spain. Unless we deviate drastically they are predicting 10,000 cases a day mid October not the 50,000 I didn’t see the 11am briefing but if as someone earlier said valance didn’t say it’s a prediction why put that graph out. " Vallance repeatedly stated it wasn't a prediction, repeatedly I tell you, repeatedly | |||
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"It seems we have gone into Level 4. What does this mean? According to the scale I have it means relaxing restrictions stops and social distancing continues. With so many new infections every day, that's very much a given. In fact surprising it's taken so long. I haven't seen that chart for a while..what is level 5? As the infection rate r is definitely growing at a fast rate." It was on the Marr Show yesterday. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed " Yes, you are aren't you. You're on every thread gobbing off about it anyway. Chill out a bit. It's not likely to kill you anyway. | |||
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"It seems we have gone into Level 4. What does this mean? According to the scale I have it means relaxing restrictions stops and social distancing continues. With so many new infections every day, that's very much a given. In fact surprising it's taken so long. I haven't seen that chart for a while..what is level 5? As the infection rate r is definitely growing at a fast rate." Level 5 is full lockdown. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Yes, you are aren't you. You're on every thread gobbing off about it anyway. Chill out a bit. It's not likely to kill you anyway." Did somebody have the temerity to mention Covid on a thread in the Covid forum? What's the world coming to? | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Yes, you are aren't you. You're on every thread gobbing off about it anyway. Chill out a bit. It's not likely to kill you anyway. Did somebody have the temerity to mention Covid on a thread in the Covid forum? What's the world coming to?" Perhaps admin should introduce a ban for staying on topic? | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Yes, you are aren't you. You're on every thread gobbing off about it anyway. Chill out a bit. It's not likely to kill you anyway. Did somebody have the temerity to mention Covid on a thread in the Covid forum? What's the world coming to?" The point I was making, and which it seems went straight over your head, is that for someone who complains that people are obsessed with Covid, she certainly spends an inordinate amount of time commenting on it. Almost obsessively, one could say. Has it registered now? | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Yes, you are aren't you. You're on every thread gobbing off about it anyway. Chill out a bit. It's not likely to kill you anyway. Did somebody have the temerity to mention Covid on a thread in the Covid forum? What's the world coming to? The point I was making, and which it seems went straight over your head, is that for someone who complains that people are obsessed with Covid, she certainly spends an inordinate amount of time commenting on it. Almost obsessively, one could say. Has it registered now? "Probably the 100th irony of the day. It didn't go over our heads it just takes a lot too be noticably self contradictory at the moment... but a point well made. | |||
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"The seasons are defined as spring (March, April, May), summer (June, July, August), autumn (September, October, November) and winter (December, January, February). The met Office. Thanks Google - I knew it wasn't 5 months even if I was out a little myself "As soon as the clocks go back in october its not long after (November) I find that month particularly lonely and depressing dark from 5pm at night till next morning you rely on good weather or sunny weather at least in the day regardless it being cold or not after the christmas period which will be very strange this year and no doubt for most people I,m longing for the longer lighter days regardless of covid. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Yes, you are aren't you. You're on every thread gobbing off about it anyway. Chill out a bit. It's not likely to kill you anyway. Did somebody have the temerity to mention Covid on a thread in the Covid forum? What's the world coming to? The point I was making, and which it seems went straight over your head, is that for someone who complains that people are obsessed with Covid, she certainly spends an inordinate amount of time commenting on it. Almost obsessively, one could say. Has it registered now?
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day?" Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25." Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... | |||
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" A little fact on easter....the times of it were put together by the Christian synod in my favourite seaside town of Whitby...just saying "An even lesser known one is that 'easter' falls on the same dates as the celebration of the pagan goddess Eostre... | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed " Flu is influenza | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Flu is influenza " Ah but she's Flu to her friends. | |||
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" A little fact on easter....the times of it were put together by the Christian synod in my favourite seaside town of Whitby...just saying
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing..." Last year there were 5691 suicides registered in England and Wales. That's an average of 109.44 per week. A difference of 16 people per week. Last year no one on record died of Covid-19. When suicides rise exponentially and flu stats are significantly higher year on year then they can take priority. Right now we have a pandemic that's killed nearly a million people in less than a year. It won’t go away by pointing fingers elsewhere. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Flu is influenza " Yes but saying it twice makes it worse... | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Flu is influenza Ah but she's Flu to her friends." Awwww... | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Flu is influenza Ah but she's Flu to her friends." Was she married to Andy Capp? | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Flu is influenza Ah but she's Flu to her friends. Was she married to Andy Capp?" No that's Flo... | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed Flu is influenza Ah but she's Flu to her friends. Was she married to Andy Capp? No that's Flo... "So being in bed with Flu and being in bed with Flo are completely different things | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... Last year there were 5691 suicides registered in England and Wales. That's an average of 109.44 per week. A difference of 16 people per week. Last year no one on record died of Covid-19. When suicides rise exponentially and flu stats are significantly higher year on year then they can take priority. Right now we have a pandemic that's killed nearly a million people in less than a year. It won’t go away by pointing fingers elsewhere. " It is sad that these stats and many others entirely ignore both Svotland and Northern Ireland. I see it again and again Engalnd and wales. The other two members of the Family entirely ignored. And Westminster wonders why so many want independence. This is not an attack on the poster of the above comment, just venting. Stay safe. | |||
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" Patrick Vallance saying: "The next slide is not a prediction..." then showing a slide with prediction without taking questions from the press. Result: the media now keep showing the graph scaring people without explanation or mentioning that it "is not a prediction"... It was weird he said that because when he put the slide up he laboured the point that this is only the predicted outcome if we keep going the way we are and what was definitely going to happen." he said "this is not a prediction but a way of thinking about how quickly this CAN change" TWICE. And instead of saying "But france & spain moved slower", which wouldn't damage public compliance, you made it a matter of *trust* which will. Classic fear through "hockey stick graph". | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed The suicide number is rather unlikely to start to double every week is it? I think you are being disgustingly disingenuous with your figures, you are comparing a weekly suicide figure with a daily Covid deaths figure. The rolling 7 day Covid figure is about 100 deaths. Yes it’s below the suicide number but not by much and if the current trend continues Covid deaths will shortly blitz past the suicide numbers. An appalling act of misinformation, I hope it was accidental. Please clue up or shut up. Thank you Just to correct you the rolling seven day average death figure is 21.29 not 100." Where are you getting that figure? It’s wildly different to the worldmeter figures | |||
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"Just watched sky news health correspondent raise serious questions about valances case predictions. As previously reported we are following the same trajectory as France and Spain. Unless we deviate drastically they are predicting 10,000 cases a day mid October not the 50,000 I didn’t see the 11am briefing but if as someone earlier said valance didn’t say it’s a prediction why put that graph out. " How big a number do the public need to hear go take action to avoid 10,000 deaths? Besides if the 10,000/day is the more accurate trajectory it only means 50,000/day would be reached in November rather than October! | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... Last year there were 5691 suicides registered in England and Wales. That's an average of 109.44 per week. A difference of 16 people per week. Last year no one on record died of Covid-19. When suicides rise exponentially and flu stats are significantly higher year on year then they can take priority. Right now we have a pandemic that's killed nearly a million people in less than a year. It won’t go away by pointing fingers elsewhere. It is sad that these stats and many others entirely ignore both Svotland and Northern Ireland. I see it again and again Engalnd and wales. The other two members of the Family entirely ignored. And Westminster wonders why so many want independence. This is not an attack on the poster of the above comment, just venting. Stay safe." It's because, due to their levels of devolution, Scotland and Northern Ireland collect their own figures, which aren't always as easy to find. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing..." You picked the stats bullet brain. You said 25 died in a week. That's 7 days. So 18 kicked off one day and during the other 6 days of that 7 day period 7 must have died. 18×7=25 You said it. Now if 27 died the day before that 7 day period started it has nothing to do with the 7 days after where 25 died. See? No you don't do you. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... You picked the stats bullet brain. You said 25 died in a week. That's 7 days. So 18 kicked off one day and during the other 6 days of that 7 day period 7 must have died. 18×7=25 You said it. Now if 27 died the day before that 7 day period started it has nothing to do with the 7 days after where 25 died. See? No you don't do you. " Whilst this pissing contest is delightful can we not agree that about 18 people a day on average are dying of Covid 19? | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... You picked the stats bullet brain. You said 25 died in a week. That's 7 days. So 18 kicked off one day and during the other 6 days of that 7 day period 7 must have died. 18×7=25 You said it. Now if 27 died the day before that 7 day period started it has nothing to do with the 7 days after where 25 died. See? No you don't do you. Whilst this pissing contest is delightful can we not agree that about 18 people a day on average are dying of Covid 19? " Within 28 days,we don't know how many are dying after the point do we? | |||
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"Just watched sky news health correspondent raise serious questions about valances case predictions. As previously reported we are following the same trajectory as France and Spain. Unless we deviate drastically they are predicting 10,000 cases a day mid October not the 50,000 I didn’t see the 11am briefing but if as someone earlier said valance didn’t say it’s a prediction why put that graph out. How big a number do the public need to hear go take action to avoid 10,000 deaths? Besides if the 10,000/day is the more accurate trajectory it only means 50,000/day would be reached in November rather than October! "Forgive my memory impediment, but I'm sure the NOT prediction was about infections, NOT deaths. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... You picked the stats bullet brain. You said 25 died in a week. That's 7 days. So 18 kicked off one day and during the other 6 days of that 7 day period 7 must have died. 18×7=25 You said it. Now if 27 died the day before that 7 day period started it has nothing to do with the 7 days after where 25 died. See? No you don't do you. " This is like arguing with a petulant teenager. Ffs. It was not me who said that 25 die a week from Covid-19. I am asking how that can be the weekly stat when it's nearly the daily stat? This was a comment directed at adult minded people not painful pedantic ones. | |||
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"Just watched sky news health correspondent raise serious questions about valances case predictions. As previously reported we are following the same trajectory as France and Spain. Unless we deviate drastically they are predicting 10,000 cases a day mid October not the 50,000 I didn’t see the 11am briefing but if as someone earlier said valance didn’t say it’s a prediction why put that graph out. How big a number do the public need to hear go take action to avoid 10,000 deaths? Besides if the 10,000/day is the more accurate trajectory it only means 50,000/day would be reached in November rather than October!
Forgive my memory impediment, but I'm sure the NOT prediction was about infections, NOT deaths. "People like you make it very difficult for those if us who like to make facts up as they go along.... | |||
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"Just watched sky news health correspondent raise serious questions about valances case predictions. As previously reported we are following the same trajectory as France and Spain. Unless we deviate drastically they are predicting 10,000 cases a day mid October not the 50,000 I didn’t see the 11am briefing but if as someone earlier said valance didn’t say it’s a prediction why put that graph out. How big a number do the public need to hear go take action to avoid 10,000 deaths? Besides if the 10,000/day is the more accurate trajectory it only means 50,000/day would be reached in November rather than October!
Forgive my memory impediment, but I'm sure the NOT prediction was about infections, NOT deaths.
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... You picked the stats bullet brain. You said 25 died in a week. That's 7 days. So 18 kicked off one day and during the other 6 days of that 7 day period 7 must have died. 18×7=25 You said it. Now if 27 died the day before that 7 day period started it has nothing to do with the 7 days after where 25 died. See? No you don't do you. Whilst this pissing contest is delightful can we not agree that about 18 people a day on average are dying of Covid 19? Within 28 days,we don't know how many are dying after the point do we?" Very true but if we don't settle on a figure we can't move on from the pathetic pissing contest, although it does show some people up for what they are, i.e. it's more important for them to win an argument than to get to the right conclusion. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... You picked the stats bullet brain. You said 25 died in a week. That's 7 days. So 18 kicked off one day and during the other 6 days of that 7 day period 7 must have died. 18×7=25 You said it. Now if 27 died the day before that 7 day period started it has nothing to do with the 7 days after where 25 died. See? No you don't do you. Whilst this pissing contest is delightful can we not agree that about 18 people a day on average are dying of Covid 19? Within 28 days,we don't know how many are dying after the point do we? Very true but if we don't settle on a figure we can't move on from the pathetic pissing contest, although it does show some people up for what they are, i.e. it's more important for them to win an argument than to get to the right conclusion." Some people will use any reasoning to dismiss covid as not being a big deal, even when deaths were at a much higher rate , there were excuses made. It's frustratingly sickening. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... You picked the stats bullet brain. You said 25 died in a week. That's 7 days. So 18 kicked off one day and during the other 6 days of that 7 day period 7 must have died. 18×7=25 You said it. Now if 27 died the day before that 7 day period started it has nothing to do with the 7 days after where 25 died. See? No you don't do you. Whilst this pissing contest is delightful can we not agree that about 18 people a day on average are dying of Covid 19? Within 28 days,we don't know how many are dying after the point do we? Very true but if we don't settle on a figure we can't move on from the pathetic pissing contest, although it does show some people up for what they are, i.e. it's more important for them to win an argument than to get to the right conclusion. Some people will use any reasoning to dismiss covid as not being a big deal, even when deaths were at a much higher rate , there were excuses made. It's frustratingly sickening." Yeah but it’s a handy way to work out all the folk you wouldn’t fuck if they were the last people on earth. | |||
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"I hope Boris is refreshed from his recent Italian holiday. Did he go there for an eye test ? It was Blair!! "Apparently so. To be fair the likeness is uncanny. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... You picked the stats bullet brain. You said 25 died in a week. That's 7 days. So 18 kicked off one day and during the other 6 days of that 7 day period 7 must have died. 18×7=25 You said it. Now if 27 died the day before that 7 day period started it has nothing to do with the 7 days after where 25 died. See? No you don't do you. Whilst this pissing contest is delightful can we not agree that about 18 people a day on average are dying of Covid 19? Within 28 days,we don't know how many are dying after the point do we? Very true but if we don't settle on a figure we can't move on from the pathetic pissing contest, although it does show some people up for what they are, i.e. it's more important for them to win an argument than to get to the right conclusion." This is why it's important. The original comment makes it look like we are trying to save 25 people a week at the expense of 125 suicides. We must be nuts! But when you break that data down the first stat ignores the fact that people were taking thier own lives before Covid-19. 109 per week which now makes it 16 people we would be losing to lockdown vs 25 saved.... Except the 25 figure is incorrect too. Since it is difficult to find a daily death rate for the last week, I have questioned the veracity of the statement since 18 people had died the day before, making it highly unlikely that only 7 people died in the preceding 6 days. But it seems some of those amongst us feel the need to nitpick (which is against forum rules). So despite the fact that everything I wrote is correct, it is being pounced on for not being written in legalese. Its as tedious for me as it is for you. My apologies. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed The suicide number is rather unlikely to start to double every week is it? I think you are being disgustingly disingenuous with your figures, you are comparing a weekly suicide figure with a daily Covid deaths figure. The rolling 7 day Covid figure is about 100 deaths. Yes it’s below the suicide number but not by much and if the current trend continues Covid deaths will shortly blitz past the suicide numbers. An appalling act of misinformation, I hope it was accidental. Please clue up or shut up. Thank you Just to correct you the rolling seven day average death figure is 21.29 not 100. Where are you getting that figure? It’s wildly different to the worldmeter figures" I'm getting that figure from worldindata, where I have always got my data from. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... You picked the stats bullet brain. You said 25 died in a week. That's 7 days. So 18 kicked off one day and during the other 6 days of that 7 day period 7 must have died. 18×7=25 You said it. Now if 27 died the day before that 7 day period started it has nothing to do with the 7 days after where 25 died. See? No you don't do you. Whilst this pissing contest is delightful can we not agree that about 18 people a day on average are dying of Covid 19? Within 28 days,we don't know how many are dying after the point do we? Very true but if we don't settle on a figure we can't move on from the pathetic pissing contest, although it does show some people up for what they are, i.e. it's more important for them to win an argument than to get to the right conclusion. Some people will use any reasoning to dismiss covid as not being a big deal, even when deaths were at a much higher rate , there were excuses made. It's frustratingly sickening. Yeah but it’s a handy way to work out all the folk you wouldn’t fuck if they were the last people on earth." I've met thousands of people swinging and only a handful of them are on the forums. But yes it's a great self filtering mechanism | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... You picked the stats bullet brain. You said 25 died in a week. That's 7 days. So 18 kicked off one day and during the other 6 days of that 7 day period 7 must have died. 18×7=25 You said it. Now if 27 died the day before that 7 day period started it has nothing to do with the 7 days after where 25 died. See? No you don't do you. Whilst this pissing contest is delightful can we not agree that about 18 people a day on average are dying of Covid 19? Within 28 days,we don't know how many are dying after the point do we? Very true but if we don't settle on a figure we can't move on from the pathetic pissing contest, although it does show some people up for what they are, i.e. it's more important for them to win an argument than to get to the right conclusion. Some people will use any reasoning to dismiss covid as not being a big deal, even when deaths were at a much higher rate , there were excuses made. It's frustratingly sickening." I often correct people when they give out inaccurate data. It doesn't mean I'm dismissing the threat of covid, with the excess deaths it would be foolish to do so. If people are going to quote data then it should be accurate data that can be sourced. That applies to both sides. | |||
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"125 folks died of suicide last week. Not to mention flu and influenza. 25 of covid. Folks are completly covid obsessed spot on How do 25 people a week die from covid when 18 people die in one day? Well 18 die in one day and over the other 6 days 7 die. See. 18+7=25. Thanks Einstein. So 18 people died of Covid-19 on the 20th, 27 on the 19th.... not much point in continuing... You picked the stats bullet brain. You said 25 died in a week. That's 7 days. So 18 kicked off one day and during the other 6 days of that 7 day period 7 must have died. 18×7=25 You said it. Now if 27 died the day before that 7 day period started it has nothing to do with the 7 days after where 25 died. See? No you don't do you. Whilst this pissing contest is delightful can we not agree that about 18 people a day on average are dying of Covid 19? Within 28 days,we don't know how many are dying after the point do we? Very true but if we don't settle on a figure we can't move on from the pathetic pissing contest, although it does show some people up for what they are, i.e. it's more important for them to win an argument than to get to the right conclusion. Some people will use any reasoning to dismiss covid as not being a big deal, even when deaths were at a much higher rate , there were excuses made. It's frustratingly sickening. I often correct people when they give out inaccurate data. It doesn't mean I'm dismissing the threat of covid, with the excess deaths it would be foolish to do so. If people are going to quote data then it should be accurate data that can be sourced. That applies to both sides." There was a time that a person could post a link to backup what they are saying. Since this has disappeared the amount of made up facts has become so prevalent it's like being the only sober person in a party where everyone is blotto. | |||
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