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Genuine question.
When the black death ran rampant what eventually caused it to no longer be classed as a pandemic?
There must have been saturation point ?
There was no medicine to treat it then so how did mankind eventually deal with it?
I know it's still around.
Same question for Spanish flu.
What stopped there viruses from killing everyone? |
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"Genuine question.
When the black death ran rampant what eventually caused it to no longer be classed as a pandemic?
There must have been saturation point ?
There was no medicine to treat it then so how did mankind eventually deal with it?
I know it's still around.
Same question for Spanish flu.
What stopped there viruses from killing everyone?"
The lizard people decided they'd killed enough humans and began vaccinations in secret. |
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"Didn’t they say that the great fire of London sorted it? I don’t know how a localised fire could kill a country wide plague but that’s what I remember from school for some reason!! "
Pretty sure it wiped out 3/4 of the population of Europe.
Don't think a fire in London would have sorted it out but yeah from history in junior school I remember this also learning London's burning on the recorder  |
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It killed about 60% of the population of Europe (approx 50 million people). That significantly reduced the number of people that could catch it. Plus there was massively less travel (many never went more that about 5 miles from home in their entire life) so once it ended up in tiny pockets, they tended to burn themselves out again by simply killing the infected family and having nowhere else to go. |
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"It killed about 60% of the population of Europe (approx 50 million people). That significantly reduced the number of people that could catch it. Plus there was massively less travel (many never went more that about 5 miles from home in their entire life) so once it ended up in tiny pockets, they tended to burn themselves out again by simply killing the infected family and having nowhere else to go. "
And how long did it go on for?
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"It killed about 60% of the population of Europe (approx 50 million people). That significantly reduced the number of people that could catch it. Plus there was massively less travel (many never went more that about 5 miles from home in their entire life) so once it ended up in tiny pockets, they tended to burn themselves out again by simply killing the infected family and having nowhere else to go.
And how long did it go on for?
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It's generally considered to have gone on for about 7 years, however there were notable further outbreaks from time to time for approximately 300 years after due to medical science and sanitation taking considerable time to evolve to the point it could be truly understood and treated. There are still infections of plague today, although it is now easily treatable. |
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"It killed about 60% of the population of Europe (approx 50 million people). That significantly reduced the number of people that could catch it. Plus there was massively less travel (many never went more that about 5 miles from home in their entire life) so once it ended up in tiny pockets, they tended to burn themselves out again by simply killing the infected family and having nowhere else to go.
And how long did it go on for?
It's generally considered to have gone on for about 7 years, however there were notable further outbreaks from time to time for approximately 300 years after due to medical science and sanitation taking considerable time to evolve to the point it could be truly understood and treated. There are still infections of plague today, although it is now easily treatable."
So with this in mind.
Even though medical science is highly developed today, it very possible that covid 19 could take years to cure,if ever.
So it's possible that our arrogance and ignorance has overlooked a very simple possibility.
That we are not the most advanced and dominant species on the planet and the world has once again been floored by a microscopic virus
That we should all start taking alot more seriously rather than complaining about not being able to go out with 7 mate's and get shitfaced d*unk. |
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"It killed about 60% of the population of Europe (approx 50 million people). That significantly reduced the number of people that could catch it. Plus there was massively less travel (many never went more that about 5 miles from home in their entire life) so once it ended up in tiny pockets, they tended to burn themselves out again by simply killing the infected family and having nowhere else to go.
And how long did it go on for?
It's generally considered to have gone on for about 7 years, however there were notable further outbreaks from time to time for approximately 300 years after due to medical science and sanitation taking considerable time to evolve to the point it could be truly understood and treated. There are still infections of plague today, although it is now easily treatable.
So with this in mind.
Even though medical science is highly developed today, it very possible that covid 19 could take years to cure,if ever.
So it's possible that our arrogance and ignorance has overlooked a very simple possibility.
That we are not the most advanced and dominant species on the planet and the world has once again been floored by a microscopic virus
That we should all start taking alot more seriously rather than complaining about not being able to go out with 7 mate's and get shitfaced d*unk."
Absolutely, virus' are tiny but should command a lot of respect. Especially when they are as little understood as the current one. Time for learning and technology development will reduce the risk, but that is something that will require patience. |
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You cant cure covid,its like flu. It will always be here as it will mutate. We will become immune to each new strain. Our immune system is a tremendous thing. |
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"Bubonic plague was gotten hold of when sanitation became more prevalent.....I think.
Or it could be The Lizardmen."
You may have something there. Sooo can we say Friday and Saturday night party revellers pissing and shitting in shop doorways and alleys are part of the problem. |
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By *irginieWoman
over a year ago
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The plague came back over and over again over 100s of years. They worked out to lock the well away and banned everything fun (sound familiar) and get rid of the sick and dead very quickly.
Eventually it was enough to break the cycle.
Plus all the other advances like sanitation.
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"Genuine question.
When the black death ran rampant what eventually caused it to no longer be classed as a pandemic?
There must have been saturation point ?
There was no medicine to treat it then so how did mankind eventually deal with it?
I know it's still around.
Same question for Spanish flu.
What stopped there viruses from killing everyone?"
They tore down all the 5G masts and everyone drank bleach. |
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"You cant cure covid,its like flu. It will always be here as it will mutate. We will become immune to each new strain. Our immune system is a tremendous thing."
Though a few hundred thousand will die each time... |
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A theory is that in europe the population evolved immunity. People with certain genes were more likely to survive and reproduce. After a few hundred years herd immunity of sorts was achieved as said it cost more than half the population at times. |
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Dumb donny trumps ancestor, one of the German drumpf family, which is his true name, not trump, but drumpf . Well, he just wished the plague away like dumb donny is trying to do with covid 19 lol.
All jokes aside, no offense meant to the German Drumpf family. You sure aren't to blame for dumb donny trump, his father is to blame for that. A rotten father sometimes results in a rotten son
like dumb donny "Drumpf", who is not a trump.
A fake name for a fake president !
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"You cant cure covid,its like flu. It will always be here as it will mutate. We will become immune to each new strain. Our immune system is a tremendous thing.
Though a few hundred thousand will die each time..."
What do you propose? And how many will die because of cancelled medical procedures, suicide....? |
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top answer by op, having studied this and "lost villages" it is still about in eastern countries in small pockets of outbreaks but is soon sorted, plenty bad viruses out there spanish flu was a little different as tended to target younger people harder , overreaction by immune system |
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What caused the bubonic plague to come to a halt was simply that it ran out of people to kill.
There were three main outbreaks dating from 500AD to 1885 or so.
Basically it wiped out around 60% of the population in Europe. Because everyone was dead, there was enough seperation of people to stop it spreading any further.
The fire of London helped with the London outbreak, but this was a global pandemic, not something isolated. |
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Spanish flu was basically controlled by similar methods being used today but eventually became natural selection. Some had it and died other developed immunity therefore disease died out as nobody left to carry or infect. |
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I think it's probably only possible to take a guess, as medical and scientific practices at the time were less advanced than of today.
For cities that were badly affected, many of the richer people moved out, often people like merchants. This may have stifled opportunities for the spread.
Once commerce returned, after the merchants went home, the population of London, for example, swelled, towards its former levels. It could be that some immunity was acquired after many years of the disease being around in waves of infection.
Management of the situation had also forced the infected households to be contained and have that infamous X mark made on the door. Eyam, Derbs isolated the whole village, to prevent spreading it, ss many of us know. Those strategies would have made it harder for it to spread, though rats and their fleas were the key vectors, amongst people living in close proximity.
They had other measures, including banning of open sewars afterwards, which may have helped, as part of a broader cleanup. I'm guessing that centuries of natural selection, via some acquired immunity, gave much of the benefit, alongside strict isolation. |
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A virus needs a host - as wave after wave kills hosts, typically what happens is strains that induce less mortality in the hosts survive where the more lethal strains fall away as the hosts die. This can take time, and of course relies on fairly fixed populations so that the virus is not constantly transported to new hosts. This is the benefit of lockdowns.
Bubonic plague still exists, but is treatable by and large. Spanish flu likewise. We do however have a host of other nasties to concern ourselves with - Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever anyone? |
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"Didn’t they say that the great fire of London sorted it? I don’t know how a localised fire could kill a country wide plague but that’s what I remember from school for some reason!!
Pretty sure it wiped out 3/4 of the population of Europe.
Don't think a fire in London would have sorted it out but yeah from history in junior school I remember this also learning London's burning on the recorder "
Bubonic plague started in the 14th century. The bubonic plague that the fire of London stopped, was the last largest outbreak of that plague. Wiki
BTW it's a bacterial infection that apparently transmitted back then by human fleas though started with the rats. I'm guessing hygiene played an important part in ending the pandemic. I cba to read all the details. |
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"I think it's probably only possible to take a guess, as medical and scientific practices at the time were less advanced than of today.
For cities that were badly affected, many of the richer people moved out, often people like merchants. This may have stifled opportunities for the spread.
Once commerce returned, after the merchants went home, the population of London, for example, swelled, towards its former levels. It could be that some immunity was acquired after many years of the disease being around in waves of infection.
Management of the situation had also forced the infected households to be contained and have that infamous X mark made on the door. Eyam, Derbs isolated the whole village, to prevent spreading it, ss many of us know. Those strategies would have made it harder for it to spread, though rats and their fleas were the key vectors, amongst people living in close proximity.
They had other measures, including banning of open sewars afterwards, which may have helped, as part of a broader cleanup. I'm guessing that centuries of natural selection, via some acquired immunity, gave much of the benefit, alongside strict isolation. "
Wonder if they whined about having to live in communist China and not being allowed to visit the village pub or if it was all a sinister conspiracy to get insidious mind control... |
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Essentially, it killed that much of the worlds population, transmission was effectively stopped when there were not enough carriers....
No-one moving from 1 village to the next, so if a village was carrying, they'd die off,and the next village would be ok. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
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Wonder if they whined about having to live in communist China and not being allowed to visit the village pub or if it was all a sinister conspiracy to get insidious mind control... "
Those 'Bubonic Marshalls' were fookers !!! All Death Mask and Attitude !!!
Mind you I blame King Edward III. Minbd you it stopped a War so it wasn't all bad.
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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago
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"Genuine question.
When the black death ran rampant what eventually caused it to no longer be classed as a pandemic?
There must have been saturation point ?
There was no medicine to treat it then so how did mankind eventually deal with it?
I know it's still around.
Same question for Spanish flu.
What stopped there viruses from killing everyone?"
The most popular theory is via quarantining and improvement of hygiene. People who had would stay in there houses or moved out to lesser densly populated areas. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Genuine question.
When the black death ran rampant what eventually caused it to no longer be classed as a pandemic?
There must have been saturation point ?
There was no medicine to treat it then so how did mankind eventually deal with it?
I know it's still around.
Same question for Spanish flu.
What stopped there viruses from killing everyone?"
To thirds of European was wiped out so less people around to pass it on to so dies out mainly but does still flair up in parts of the world but they can stop it now |
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"Genuine question.
When the black death ran rampant what eventually caused it to no longer be classed as a pandemic?
There must have been saturation point ?
There was no medicine to treat it then so how did mankind eventually deal with it?
I know it's still around.
Same question for Spanish flu.
What stopped there viruses from killing everyone?
They tore down all the 5G masts and everyone drank bleach."
LOL Love it. |
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A pandemic like this one has been predicted for some time and I remember watching a programme on BBC4 three years ago by Dr Hannah Fry which conducted an experiment to see how fast one would move. Terrifying.
We are lucky the horrible disease of Ebola from Africa did not go worldwide. Again a case of humans destroying natural habitat and coming into contact with animal diseases that we have no immunity to.
History reminds us of how disease was handled e.g Eyam, a village in England which shut itself off. I learnt that lepers, a chapel exists on the edge of Cambridge, had to once ring a hand bell saying they were unclean. And then we had the extraordinary looking Plague Doctors ( who existed) , with one young man donning a suit in a Norfolk village recently scaring the living daylights out of the local children. Weird. |
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