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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself." And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. | |||
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"There a panorama documentary and a BBC 2 documentary showing frontline nurses battling with Covid-19 patients, its hard to watch, but will open eyes to the reality of how bad it does get, so. Many nurses with ptsd now "The "bbc" yeah ok. All paid actors no doubt to spread that fear. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio." Right so the nurse on the radio today was full of shit? | |||
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"There a panorama documentary and a BBC 2 documentary showing frontline nurses battling with Covid-19 patients, its hard to watch, but will open eyes to the reality of how bad it does get, so. Many nurses with ptsd now
The "bbc" yeah ok.
All paid actors no doubt to spread that fear."Evidence? | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio." Words fail me. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. Words fail me. " Maybe Just maybe those tik tok videos are a way of letting off steam after an horrendous shift | |||
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"https://youtu.be/LBsSbS42IN4 "Certificate of bollocks...our service was dead, it was dead"" One person. Well I'm convinced. Evidence of all the actors in panorama please? | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio." There are 500,000 nurses in the UK. 47,000 deaths so there are obviously going to be at least 90% of nurses who haven't been impacted in the way that the scottish nurse has! Of course, some of these nurses have worked exclusively on wards with covid patients and there job is to look after patients as they die. Only a small percentage of nurses are impacted like the one on the radio. As for the nurse last week on social media, she wasn't a "nurse". She worked for Care UK and it was her job was to clean the arses of the old. Maybe she has been sitting around because the old people she cared for are in hospital or dead now? Why would she have less work?? She's a covidiot and you've just been sucked in by her baseless opinion. Go have a word with yourself.. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio." You do like coming up with a lot of analogies to support your views, old people and now nurses plus others you've conveniently spoken to.. Are you saying there was no peak in March/April? The NHS and care members in my own family, some 7 of them plus friends in different parts of the country plus still serving ex colleagues currently driving ambulances would disagree with what you claim is one young nurse in the internet.. Btw if that is true she will be in a spot of bother and may the saying that.. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio." Fake or you are d*unk ! Dpeak to actual nurses it's been horrendous for those in the front line  | |||
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"There a panorama documentary and a BBC 2 documentary showing frontline nurses battling with Covid-19 patients, its hard to watch, but will open eyes to the reality of how bad it does get, so. Many nurses with ptsd now
The "bbc" yeah ok.
All paid actors no doubt to spread that fear."Ooh now the delusional imagining is entering maximum conspiracy .. There are btw Facebook pages set up by actual nurses where hundreds of them would dispute based on their service during the pandemic with what your alleging.. Broadening ones knowledge base is never a bad thing.. | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth "So numerous drs and nurses are lying? | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. You do like coming up with a lot of analogies to support your views, old people and now nurses plus others you've conveniently spoken to.. Are you saying there was no peak in March/April? The NHS and care members in my own family, some 7 of them plus friends in different parts of the country plus still serving ex colleagues currently driving ambulances would disagree with what you claim is one young nurse in the internet.. Btw if that is true she will be in a spot of bother and may the saying that.." Oh but its not "just one nurse" on the internet, its hundreds, there is 500 german doctors just few weeeks ago that came out and formed a group to fight back against this...they are saying there is no pandemic too. Ill get the video or link you to their group if you want. The doctors and nurses speaking out have nothing to gain and everything to lose. The ones folllowing the narrative are scared to speak out. The ones on tv and radio are probably are most likely bought and paid for just like politicians are. | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?"Doctors and nurses can be bought just like politicians can. So yeah the ones on the tv and main stream media are sell outs. | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?
Doctors and nurses can be bought just like politicians can.
So yeah the ones on the tv and main stream media are sell outs."Again Evidence please | |||
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"There a panorama documentary and a BBC 2 documentary showing frontline nurses battling with Covid-19 patients, its hard to watch, but will open eyes to the reality of how bad it does get, so. Many nurses with ptsd now
The "bbc" yeah ok.
All paid actors no doubt to spread that fear.
Ooh now the delusional imagining is entering maximum conspiracy ..
There are btw Facebook pages set up by actual nurses where hundreds of them would dispute based on their service during the pandemic with what your alleging..
Broadening ones knowledge base is never a bad thing.."You should really try it yourself sometime as ive seen nothing on here over the months to say you have tried broadening your knowledge. | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war My brother is a serving soldier 3mths ago caught cov 19 are you telling me he’s lying go away you silly silly man !!! to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?
Doctors and nurses can be bought just like politicians can.
So yeah the ones on the tv and main stream media are sell outs." | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?"i don't and haven't cast judgement on individual anecdotes....there may well be truth behind a lot of them. my point was more aimed at your opening post about the bbc radio hosting a 'nurse' (may well be....may well not be...i can't prove or disprove the authenticity of the person)... I'm just questioning the item on the mainstream media outlet. Mainstream media LIES to everyone. If you don't see or can point to them doing it in the past then....you need to have a word with yourself  | |||
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"There a panorama documentary and a BBC 2 documentary showing frontline nurses battling with Covid-19 patients, its hard to watch, but will open eyes to the reality of how bad it does get, so. Many nurses with ptsd now
The "bbc" yeah ok.
All paid actors no doubt to spread that fear.
Ooh now the delusional imagining is entering maximum conspiracy ..
There are btw Facebook pages set up by actual nurses where hundreds of them would dispute based on their service during the pandemic with what your alleging..
Broadening ones knowledge base is never a bad thing..
You should really try it yourself sometime as ive seen nothing on here over the months to say you have tried broadening your knowledge."Based upon not swallowing your 'go to this crack pots conspiracy theorists page full of drivel'.. You need to do better.. | |||
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"The sooner you realise there is no pandemic and the pandemic is a lie the better for everyone. Can't believe some of you people on here just begging for harder tighter restrictions. There is no pandemic. " Why? By whom? For what end? | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. You do like coming up with a lot of analogies to support your views, old people and now nurses plus others you've conveniently spoken to.. Are you saying there was no peak in March/April? The NHS and care members in my own family, some 7 of them plus friends in different parts of the country plus still serving ex colleagues currently driving ambulances would disagree with what you claim is one young nurse in the internet.. Btw if that is true she will be in a spot of bother and may the saying that.. Oh but its not "just one nurse" on the internet, its hundreds, there is 500 german doctors just few weeeks ago that came out and formed a group to fight back against this...they are saying there is no pandemic too. Ill get the video or link you to their group if you want. The doctors and nurses speaking out have nothing to gain and everything to lose. The ones folllowing the narrative are scared to speak out. The ones on tv and radio are probably are most likely bought and paid for just like politicians are." They aren't saying there is no pandemic. They're saying that it's not any more dangerous than the flu. They are also saying that the measures being taken are justified. In terms of death rate, they might be right. However, we know that covid is more contagious than flu. One reason is that many people don't have symptoms so spread it. People with flu are knocked down with it. As for the measures, that's a personal opinion. You could find 500 brexit supporting doctors even though 90% voted to remain. 500 isn't many from a huge number. | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?
Doctors and nurses can be bought just like politicians can.
So yeah the ones on the tv and main stream media are sell outs.
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Evidence please"Its not about evidance. Its about listening too all the doctors and nurses that our and have been speaking out about all of this and watching them be silenced by you tube, facebook, ect. And then listening to the ones that are sating how horrendous it all is and scaremongering. Then making up your own mind based on what you see and feel. I am trusting the doctors and nurses with everything to lose over the ones saying how horrendous it is whilst at the same time making fucking tik tok dancing videos, clapping for themselfs on thursdays, loving all the free food like pizzas that was being sent to them whilst food banks raised significantly, loving all the praise and rainbows they was getting. Being able to jump qeues in supermarkets and on and on. Yeah i trust the doctors and nurses speaking out who get reprimanded or lose their jobs 1,000,000,000 times more than those sell out dancing tik tok nurses anyday | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio." Get over yourself! | |||
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"The sooner you realise there is no pandemic and the pandemic is a lie the better for everyone. Can't believe some of you people on here just begging for harder tighter restrictions. There is no pandemic. Why? By whom? For what end? " You just proved by asking this your "knowledge base" is zero. I wont say go research it as i know you wont. Just keep living in ignorance. | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?
i don't and haven't cast judgement on individual anecdotes....there may well be truth behind a lot of them.
my point was more aimed at your opening post about the bbc radio hosting a 'nurse' (may well be....may well not be...i can't prove or disprove the authenticity of the person)...
I'm just questioning the item on the mainstream media outlet. Mainstream media LIES to everyone. If you don't see or can point to them doing it in the past then....you need to have a word with yourself "Why on earth would a woman go on a national radio station and pretend to be a nurse? | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?
i don't and haven't cast judgement on individual anecdotes....there may well be truth behind a lot of them.
my point was more aimed at your opening post about the bbc radio hosting a 'nurse' (may well be....may well not be...i can't prove or disprove the authenticity of the person)...
I'm just questioning the item on the mainstream media outlet. Mainstream media LIES to everyone. If you don't see or can point to them doing it in the past then....you need to have a word with yourself "The media lies to us on a daily basis They have not invented a pandemic | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?
Doctors and nurses can be bought just like politicians can.
So yeah the ones on the tv and main stream media are sell outs.
Again
Evidence please
Its not about evidance.
Its about listening too all the doctors and nurses that our and have been speaking out about all of this and watching them be silenced by you tube, facebook, ect.
And then listening to the ones that are sating how horrendous it all is and scaremongering.
Then making up your own mind based on what you see and feel.
I am trusting the doctors and nurses with everything to lose over the ones saying how horrendous it is whilst at the same time making fucking tik tok dancing videos, clapping for themselfs on thursdays, loving all the free food like pizzas that was being sent to them whilst food banks raised significantly, loving all the praise and rainbows they was getting.
Being able to jump qeues in supermarkets and on and on.
Yeah i trust the doctors and nurses speaking out who get reprimanded or lose their jobs 1,000,000,000 times more than those sell out dancing tik tok nurses anyday "I stopped reading at..its not about evidence | |||
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"The sooner you realise there is no pandemic and the pandemic is a lie the better for everyone. Can't believe some of you people on here just begging for harder tighter restrictions. There is no pandemic. Why? By whom? For what end? You just proved by asking this your "knowledge base" is zero. I wont say go research it as i know you wont. Just keep living in ignorance. "You keep claiming this and yet offer no evidence to back this up.. It's like someone saying the moon is made of cheese then accusing others of ignorance in not looking for any supporting evidence.. Just how logical does that sound to you..? | |||
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"https://youtu.be/LBsSbS42IN4 "Certificate of bollocks...our service was dead, it was dead"" I find attitudes like hers pretty shit tbh. She never mentioned what kind of service she's in for a start. My area was quiet over the worst period but we used the time constructively to plan for getting patients and staff back in and out safely, we volunteered to cover shifts on elderly wards which were struggling and now things are picking up, my areas battle is starting. There be no handclaps or pop up hospitals for us and nor do we look for them. Not every nurse was on the front line per say but every nurse will have contributed in some way, be it covering sick leave in other areas or as mentioned, planning ahead. Except her obviously. I'm not buying into all the hype around covid but for an NHS worker to blatantly post that it's bollocks is a bit shocking. No we're not all angels but the majority of us are decent, caring people and I emphasise people not superheros but, there's always gonna be little princesses who behave like spoiled brats. Just glad she's not a colleague of mine or looking after a relative of mine. | |||
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"It's a very immotive subject but many nurses must be used to seeing deaths as part of their job. There's been 34k covid hospitals deaths Annually 230k people die across 1200 hospitals (not this simple but 28 covid deaths per hospital over 8 months) The picture you have painted are rows of dying patients and nurses just going along each row It's not a conspiracy and it's deadly to a certain proportion of people. There seems to be an agenda behind every story that comes out. The nurse was scottish, was she located in Scotland? There seems to be a political agenda from certain Scottish politicians " I dont know..she had a Scottish accent | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?
Doctors and nurses can be bought just like politicians can.
So yeah the ones on the tv and main stream media are sell outs.
Again
Evidence please
Its not about evidance.
Its about listening too all the doctors and nurses that our and have been speaking out about all of this and watching them be silenced by you tube, facebook, ect.
And then listening to the ones that are sating how horrendous it all is and scaremongering.
Then making up your own mind based on what you see and feel.
I am trusting the doctors and nurses with everything to lose over the ones saying how horrendous it is whilst at the same time making fucking tik tok dancing videos, clapping for themselfs on thursdays, loving all the free food like pizzas that was being sent to them whilst food banks raised significantly, loving all the praise and rainbows they was getting.
Being able to jump qeues in supermarkets and on and on.
Yeah i trust the doctors and nurses speaking out who get reprimanded or lose their jobs 1,000,000,000 times more than those sell out dancing tik tok nurses anyday
I stopped reading at..its not about evidence "I suppose it's similar to when I thought as a 16 yr old that Kate Bush liked me, I had no evidence but.. Probably a good thing I never wrote.. | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?
Doctors and nurses can be bought just like politicians can.
So yeah the ones on the tv and main stream media are sell outs.
Again
Evidence please
Its not about evidance.
Its about listening too all the doctors and nurses that our and have been speaking out about all of this and watching them be silenced by you tube, facebook, ect.
And then listening to the ones that are sating how horrendous it all is and scaremongering.
Then making up your own mind based on what you see and feel.
I am trusting the doctors and nurses with everything to lose over the ones saying how horrendous it is whilst at the same time making fucking tik tok dancing videos, clapping for themselfs on thursdays, loving all the free food like pizzas that was being sent to them whilst food banks raised significantly, loving all the praise and rainbows they was getting.
Being able to jump qeues in supermarkets and on and on.
Yeah i trust the doctors and nurses speaking out who get reprimanded or lose their jobs 1,000,000,000 times more than those sell out dancing tik tok nurses anyday
I stopped reading at..its not about evidence
I suppose it's similar to when I thought as a 16 yr old that Kate Bush liked me, I had no evidence but..
Probably a good thing I never wrote.." | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?
i don't and haven't cast judgement on
individual anecdotes....there may well be truth behind a lot of them.
my point was more aimed at your opening post about the bbc radio hosting a 'nurse' (may well be....may well not be...i can't prove or disprove the authenticity of the person)...
I'm just questioning the item on the
mainstream media outlet. Mainstream media LIES to everyone. If you don't see or can point to them doing it in the past then....you need to have a word with yourself
Why on earth would a woman go on a national radio station and pretend to be a nurse?"Possibly the same reason a 'nurse' went on to national telly in america to tell a sad story about babies being ripped out of incubators in Kuwait by iraqi soldiers (proven lie), The sexed-up dossier on saddam wmd (proven lie) ...along with all the other examples i provided....it's to push an agenda. You sure as hell aren't stupid mate....just need to open up the critical side of your mind. Think bigger....question stuff you normally just swallow. I'm no fan of the government and the BBC is a government department. Loads of people on these forums love to boris bash, corbyn chase or whatever.....but they still follow the rules laid down by whoever is in charge. If in six weeks, months or years you still believe EVERYTHING that is fed to you by the MSM then......good luck | |||
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"There is a huge protest tomorrow in london and there will be numerous doctors and nurses invited to speak. So tell me OP why should these doctors and nurses and scientist's be ignored and your nurse on the radio be listened to? " Conspiratorial delusions aren't the sole province of the indifferently educated, qualifications do not guarantee accuracy, truth or indeed sanity. | |||
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"There a panorama documentary and a BBC 2 documentary showing frontline nurses battling with Covid-19 patients, its hard to watch, but will open eyes to the reality of how bad it does get, so. Many nurses with ptsd now
The "bbc" yeah ok.
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... " I respect and love you xx | |||
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"There is a huge protest tomorrow in london and there will be numerous doctors and nurses invited to speak. So tell me OP why should these doctors and nurses and scientist's be ignored and your nurse on the radio be listened to? Conspiratorial delusions aren't the sole province of the indifferently educated, qualifications do not guarantee accuracy, truth or indeed sanity. " and ignorance is bliss eh | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?
i don't and haven't cast judgement on
individual anecdotes....there may well be truth behind a lot of them.
my point was more aimed at your opening post about the bbc radio hosting a 'nurse' (may well be....may well not be...i can't prove or disprove the authenticity of the person)...
I'm just questioning the item on the
mainstream media outlet. Mainstream media LIES to everyone. If you don't see or can point to them doing it in the past then....you need to have a word with yourself
Why on earth would a woman go on a national radio station and pretend to be a nurse?
Possibly the same reason a 'nurse' went on to national telly in america to tell a sad story about babies being ripped out of incubators in Kuwait by iraqi soldiers (proven lie),
The sexed-up dossier on saddam wmd (proven lie)
...along with all the other examples i provided....it's to push an agenda.
You sure as hell aren't stupid mate....just need to open up the critical side of your mind. Think bigger....question stuff you normally just swallow.
I'm no fan of the government and the BBC is a government department. Loads of people on these forums love to boris bash, corbyn chase or whatever.....but they still follow the rules laid down by whoever is in charge.
If in six weeks, months or years you still believe EVERYTHING that is fed to you by the MSM then......good luck
"She wasnt a nurse. She was a 15 year old girl who was the daughter of a Kuwaiti American ambassador. Like I've said once already.The likes of the mail and the rag lie on a daily basis. The pandemic is not a lie. | |||
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"The sooner you realise there is no pandemic and the pandemic is a lie the better for everyone. Can't believe some of you people on here just begging for harder tighter restrictions. There is no pandemic. Why? By whom? For what end? You just proved by asking this your "knowledge base" is zero. I wont say go research it as i know you wont. Just keep living in ignorance.
You keep claiming this and yet offer no evidence to back this up..
It's like someone saying the moon is made of cheese then accusing others of ignorance in not looking for any supporting evidence..
Just how logical does that sound to you..?"You are to ignorant even if i handed all the evidence you ever needed on a plate you still wouldn't go look into it. Anything that would destroy your reality and how you see everything you simply don't want to know. So quit asking for ecvidence when even if i posted a million links you wouldnt even go look anyway. Plus we all know this site doesnt allow links that are not reconqnised or from main stream media. So yeah maybe get off a swinging site for a day and do some research for yourself. | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... " And here was me thinking you became a nurse just to get a free pizza | |||
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"There is a huge protest tomorrow in london and there will be numerous doctors and nurses invited to speak. So tell me OP why should these doctors and nurses and scientist's be ignored and your nurse on the radio be listened to? Conspiratorial delusions aren't the sole province of the indifferently educated, qualifications do not guarantee accuracy, truth or indeed sanity. and ignorance is bliss eh "No. Sanity is. | |||
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"Babies on incubators.....gulf war one. WMD's ....gulf war two. Anthrax attacks....cranking up gulf war two. Zimmermann telegram....WW1 Gulf of tonkin....nam USS liberty.....6 day war to name but a few instances where the media have been full of sh1t. Why wouldn't they tug on emotional heartstrings to further 'the war on covid'? First casualty of war is ......truth
So numerous drs and nurses are lying?
i don't and haven't cast judgement on
individual anecdotes....there may well be truth behind a lot of them.
my point was more aimed at your opening post about the bbc radio hosting a 'nurse' (may well be....may well not be...i can't prove or disprove the authenticity of the person)...
I'm just questioning the item on the
mainstream media outlet. Mainstream media LIES to everyone. If you don't see or can point to them doing it in the past then....you need to have a word with yourself
Why on earth would a woman go on a national radio station and pretend to be a nurse?
Possibly the same reason a 'nurse' went on to national telly in america to tell a sad story about babies being ripped out of incubators in Kuwait by iraqi soldiers (proven lie),
The sexed-up dossier on saddam wmd (proven lie)
...along with all the other examples i provided....it's to push an agenda.
You sure as hell aren't stupid mate....just need to open up the critical side of your mind. Think bigger....question stuff you normally just swallow.
I'm no fan of the government and the BBC is a government department. Loads of people on these forums love to boris bash, corbyn chase or whatever.....but they still follow the rules laid down by whoever is in charge.
If in six weeks, months or years you still believe EVERYTHING that is fed to you by the MSM then......good luck
"There are countless other examples of lies by all governments, ffs anyone who buys government stats as a way of influence prior to a GE should in all likelihood be excluded.. What it doesn't mean is that this globally accepted potentially fatal virus is some sort of conspired plan.. Incompetence by current people at the helm sort of suggests if it ever was they picked the wrong bunch in several countries to actually be part of it.. | |||
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"The sooner you realise there is no pandemic and the pandemic is a lie the better for everyone. Can't believe some of you people on here just begging for harder tighter restrictions. There is no pandemic. Why? By whom? For what end? You just proved by asking this your "knowledge base" is zero. I wont say go research it as i know you wont. Just keep living in ignorance.
You keep claiming this and yet offer no evidence to back this up..
It's like someone saying the moon is made of cheese then accusing others of ignorance in not looking for any supporting evidence..
Just how logical does that sound to you..?
You are to ignorant even if i handed all the evidence you ever needed on a plate you still wouldn't go look into it.
Anything that would destroy your reality and how you see everything you simply don't want to know.
So quit asking for ecvidence when even if i posted a million links you wouldnt even go look anyway.
Plus we all know this site doesnt allow links that are not reconqnised or from main stream media.
So yeah maybe get off a swinging site for a day and do some research for yourself."I wonder if all those who deny, project? | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... " Nothing but admiration and respect from here. | |||
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"The sooner you realise there is no pandemic and the pandemic is a lie the better for everyone. Can't believe some of you people on here just begging for harder tighter restrictions. There is no pandemic. Why? By whom? For what end? You just proved by asking this your "knowledge base" is zero. I wont say go research it as i know you wont. Just keep living in ignorance.
You keep claiming this and yet offer no evidence to back this up..
It's like someone saying the moon is made of cheese then accusing others of ignorance in not looking for any supporting evidence..
Just how logical does that sound to you..?
You are to ignorant even if i handed all the evidence you ever needed on a plate you still wouldn't go look into it.
Anything that would destroy your reality and how you see everything you simply don't want to know.
So quit asking for ecvidence when even if i posted a million links you wouldnt even go look anyway.
Plus we all know this site doesnt allow links that are not reconqnised or from main stream media.
So yeah maybe get off a swinging site for a day and do some research for yourself."Part of my professional life was investigation into incidents which initially may point to one cause, it was always the mantra to not rule anything out when coming to a conclusion.. But there has to be evidence.. All the evidence, (which you fail to even do a synopsis of on here) both from personal experience and readily available peer reviewed scientific evidence is that there is a pandemic.. That's it, end of.. No dark web conspiracy pages from agenda driven anti vaxers and the associated interesting people who think they are god etc.. | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... And here was me thinking you became a nurse just to get a free pizza " Nah lol. We're no free pizzas when I started  | |||
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"The sooner you realise there is no pandemic and the pandemic is a lie the better for everyone. Can't believe some of you people on here just begging for harder tighter restrictions. There is no pandemic. Why? By whom? For what end? You just proved by asking this your "knowledge base" is zero. I wont say go research it as i know you wont. Just keep living in ignorance.
You keep claiming this and yet offer no evidence to back this up..
It's like someone saying the moon is made of cheese then accusing others of ignorance in not looking for any supporting evidence..
Just how logical does that sound to you..?
You are to ignorant even if i handed all the evidence you ever needed on a plate you still wouldn't go look into it.
Anything that would destroy your reality and how you see everything you simply don't want to know.
So quit asking for ecvidence when even if i posted a million links you wouldnt even go look anyway.
Plus we all know this site doesnt allow links that are not reconqnised or from main stream media.
So yeah maybe get off a swinging site for a day and do some research for yourself."And it's too, not to..  | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... And here was me thinking you became a nurse just to get a free pizza Nah lol. We're no free pizzas when I started " | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... Nothing but admiration and respect from here. "Thank you x but whole point is we should all of us respect each other, see all the stuff in the press about 'heros' and the handclap thing, it was, to me, cringeville. Millions of folk did way more than their remit and got no recognition. Then it all became a competition as to who was the more deserving. While the press and govt whipped it up more n more. Same govt n press and I have to say, general public that bayed for our blood, verbally and physically assaulted us before covid became a thing. I'm told though that in my field, 'that's what you get paid for' So thank you for your respect it genuinely makes a difference | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... And here was me thinking you became a nurse just to get a free pizza Nah lol. We're no free pizzas when I started
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio." She wasn't a nurse, if I remember correctly, she worked in a care home. As all things we'll find things to bolster our own particular narrative. | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... And here was me thinking you became a nurse just to get a free pizza Nah lol. We're no free pizzas when I started
If you're offering mind, I'll have chicken n sweetcorn "Just as long as its not pineapple | |||
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"The sooner you realise there is no pandemic and the pandemic is a lie the better for everyone. Can't believe some of you people on here just begging for harder tighter restrictions. There is no pandemic. Why? By whom? For what end? You just proved by asking this your "knowledge base" is zero. I wont say go research it as i know you wont. Just keep living in ignorance.
You keep claiming this and yet offer no evidence to back this up..
It's like someone saying the moon is made of cheese then accusing others of ignorance in not looking for any supporting evidence..
Just how logical does that sound to you..?
You are to ignorant even if i handed all the evidence you ever needed on a plate you still wouldn't go look into it.
Anything that would destroy your reality and how you see everything you simply don't want to know.
So quit asking for ecvidence when even if i posted a million links you wouldnt even go look anyway.
Plus we all know this site doesnt allow links that are not reconqnised or from main stream media.
So yeah maybe get off a swinging site for a day and do some research for yourself."Out of context figures, whacko conspiracy theorists on YouTube and individual scientists who go against the massed ranks of scientific opinion do not count as evidence. Large scale, peer reviewed studies count as evidence. When you can provide links to peer reviewed studies then I'll stop thinking you have had some sort of mental break and start taking you seriously | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... And here was me thinking you became a nurse just to get a free pizza Nah lol. We're no free pizzas when I started
If you're offering mind, I'll have chicken n sweetcorn
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... And here was me thinking you became a nurse just to get a free pizza Nah lol. We're no free pizzas when I started
If you're offering mind, I'll have chicken n sweetcorn
Just as long as its not pineapple
Oi oi no need for that carry on ya kinky bugger " | |||
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"There is a huge protest tomorrow in london and there will be numerous doctors and nurses invited to speak. So tell me OP why should these doctors and nurses and scientist's be ignored and your nurse on the radio be listened to? Where do you decide which ones are not worth listening to but others are? I'll answer that for you. You have chosen yourself not to listen to anything from anyone regardless of profession that speaks against the narrative and chosen to listen to the ones that do follow it." To be honest nobody has yet to respond to the question that was asked here. You may be for or against the protest tomorrow, however, if as I am presuming the majority will not be in attendance, will you open your minds and listen to any professionally accredited speakers when the podcasts or video's are posted? | |||
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"There is a huge protest tomorrow in london and there will be numerous doctors and nurses invited to speak. So tell me OP why should these doctors and nurses and scientist's be ignored and your nurse on the radio be listened to? Where do you decide which ones are not worth listening to but others are? I'll answer that for you. You have chosen yourself not to listen to anything from anyone regardless of profession that speaks against the narrative and chosen to listen to the ones that do follow it. To be honest nobody has yet to respond to the question that was asked here. You may be for or against the protest tomorrow, however, if as I am presuming the majority will not be in attendance, will you open your minds and listen to any professionally accredited speakers when the podcasts or video's are posted?" I'll watch some if any are posted | |||
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"There are 4 nurses in our family. I tend to believe what they tell me. Their accounts confirm what the op has said. " and bless them all x | |||
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"There is a huge protest tomorrow in london and there will be numerous doctors and nurses invited to speak. So tell me OP why should these doctors and nurses and scientist's be ignored and your nurse on the radio be listened to? Where do you decide which ones are not worth listening to but others are? I'll answer that for you. You have chosen yourself not to listen to anything from anyone regardless of profession that speaks against the narrative and chosen to listen to the ones that do follow it. To be honest nobody has yet to respond to the question that was asked here. You may be for or against the protest tomorrow, however, if as I am presuming the majority will not be in attendance, will you open your minds and listen to any professionally accredited speakers when the podcasts or video's are posted? I'll watch some if any are posted" Will you watch and listen with a open mind and not bias? If you do but still accept the narrative and that the doctors speaking at the protest are wrong then fair enough i will completely respect your opinion but at least you will have listened and come to your own conclusion. At the end of the day, thats all we can really do. Respect each others opinions. People on here believe the narrative that there is a virus thats going to kill us all if we dont wear masks, social distance, be told when we are in lock down and when we arnt. Then there is people that believe somthing more sinister is a foot as so much doesnt add up, lots of doctors and scientists speaking out only to be silenced.... Then we have the group that believe the official narrative thinking that the other group is a danger to everyone and is going to spread the virus around. Then we have the group against the narrative thinking the people who believe the narrative are the ones endangering everyone because they are sitting by as goverments put more laws into place, taking more and more freedoms away and before we know it it could be too late. So no matter which camp you are in we are seeing one another as the enemy so to speak but we shouldnt. We should just attempt to except we have different view points and opinions. All i know is divide and conquer is very much a thing and i think we are more divided than ever. I dont see a way we can all come together as one with two very different view points but at the very least lets not hate one another, or we all lose. | |||
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"There a panorama documentary and a BBC 2 documentary showing frontline nurses battling with Covid-19 patients, its hard to watch, but will open eyes to the reality of how bad it does get, so. Many nurses with ptsd now "Many nurses like myself have PTSD from many things. We see human beings at their most vulnerable and distressed. | |||
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"There is a huge protest tomorrow in london and there will be numerous doctors and nurses invited to speak. So tell me OP why should these doctors and nurses and scientist's be ignored and your nurse on the radio be listened to? Conspiratorial delusions aren't the sole province of the indifferently educated, qualifications do not guarantee accuracy, truth or indeed sanity. and ignorance is bliss eh
No.
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" ...along with all the other examples i provided....it's to push an agenda. Ah. The mysterious 'agenda' enters yet again. What is this agenda? Asked that question a million times." 'An' agenda....the examples i provided point to a specific agenda. eg....how can an organisation further an agenda that results in war....gulf of tonkin, wmd's, anthrax attacks....etc etc.... I don't exactly know if there is a 'THE' agenda.I don't claim to either. Stop misrepresenting what i say by inferring that i'm with any of the 'THE' agenda people.... Thanks guys | |||
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" ...along with all the other examples i provided....it's to push an agenda. Ah. The mysterious 'agenda' enters yet again. What is this agenda? Asked that question a million times. 'An' agenda....the examples i provided point to a specific agenda. eg....how can an organisation further an agenda that results in war....gulf of tonkin, wmd's, anthrax attacks....etc etc.... I don't exactly know if there is a 'THE' agenda.I don't claim to either. Stop misrepresenting what i say by inferring that i'm with any of the 'THE' agenda people.... Thanks guys "Not misrepresenting anything. You told us there was an 'agenda', we simply asked what that agenda was. So these 'examples' you provided that 'point to a specific agenda'... what is that agenda? | |||
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" ...along with all the other examples i provided....it's to push an agenda. Ah. The mysterious 'agenda' enters yet again. What is this agenda? Asked that question a million times. 'An' agenda....the examples i provided point to a specific agenda. eg....how can an organisation further an agenda that results in war....gulf of tonkin, wmd's, anthrax attacks....etc etc.... I don't exactly know if there is a 'THE' agenda.I don't claim to either. Stop misrepresenting what i say by inferring that i'm with any of the 'THE' agenda people.... Thanks guys
Not misrepresenting anything.
You told us there was an 'agenda', we simply asked what that agenda was.
So these 'examples' you provided that 'point to a specific agenda'... what is that agenda?
"the agenda at the time for those instances was to lead into war....have you researched the examples i gave? It's clear and obvious that the examples i mentioned were to furthera war agenda 
and they were examples of how the media can manipulate public opinion to back any particular agenda by spreading bullshit to the masses.....and on those occasions they proved to be fruitful.....even tho they were proven to be lies. Hope that clears things up | |||
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" ...along with all the other examples i provided....it's to push an agenda. Ah. The mysterious 'agenda' enters yet again. What is this agenda? Asked that question a million times. 'An' agenda....the examples i provided point to a specific agenda. eg....how can an organisation further an agenda that results in war....gulf of tonkin, wmd's, anthrax attacks....etc etc.... I don't exactly know if there is a 'THE' agenda.I don't claim to either. Stop misrepresenting what i say by inferring that i'm with any of the 'THE' agenda people.... Thanks guys
Not misrepresenting anything.
You told us there was an 'agenda', we simply asked what that agenda was.
So these 'examples' you provided that 'point to a specific agenda'... what is that agenda?
the agenda at the time for those instances was to lead into war....have you researched the examples i gave? It's clear and obvious that the examples i mentioned were to furthera war agenda
and they were examples of how the media can manipulate public opinion to back any particular agenda by spreading bullshit to the masses.....and on those occasions they proved to be fruitful.....even tho they were proven to be lies. Hope that clears things up "Glueing together cherrypicked events to support the assertion of an agenda does not create an agenda. | |||
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" ...along with all the other examples i provided....it's to push an agenda. Ah. The mysterious 'agenda' enters yet again. What is this agenda? Asked that question a million times. 'An' agenda....the examples i provided point to a specific agenda. eg....how can an organisation further an agenda that results in war....gulf of tonkin, wmd's, anthrax attacks....etc etc.... I don't exactly know if there is a 'THE' agenda.I don't claim to either. Stop misrepresenting what i say by inferring that i'm with any of the 'THE' agenda people.... Thanks guys
Not misrepresenting anything.
You told us there was an 'agenda', we simply asked what that agenda was.
So these 'examples' you provided that 'point to a specific agenda'... what is that agenda?
the agenda at the time for those instances was to lead into war....have you researched the examples i gave? It's clear and obvious that the examples i mentioned were to furthera war agenda
and they were examples of how the media can manipulate public opinion to back any particular agenda by spreading bullshit to the masses.....and on those occasions they proved to be fruitful.....even tho they were proven to be lies. Hope that clears things up "Most people know this. What's that's phrase?The 1st casualty of war Is the truth. At times of war the right wing media spew out jingoistic nonsense. That is completely different to what is happening now..there is no link whatsoever. | |||
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"There is a huge protest tomorrow in london and there will be numerous doctors and nurses invited to speak. So tell me OP why should these doctors and nurses and scientist's be ignored and your nurse on the radio be listened to? Where do you decide which ones are not worth listening to but others are? I'll answer that for you. You have chosen yourself not to listen to anything from anyone regardless of profession that speaks against the narrative and chosen to listen to the ones that do follow it. To be honest nobody has yet to respond to the question that was asked here. You may be for or against the protest tomorrow, however, if as I am presuming the majority will not be in attendance, will you open your minds and listen to any professionally accredited speakers when the podcasts or video's are posted? I'll watch some if any are posted Will you watch and listen with a open mind and not bias? If you do but still accept the narrative and that the doctors speaking at the protest are wrong then fair enough i will completely respect your opinion but at least you will have listened and come to your own conclusion. At the end of the day, thats all we can really do. Respect each others opinions. People on here believe the narrative that there is a virus thats going to kill us all if we dont wear masks, social distance, be told when we are in lock down and when we arnt. Then there is people that believe somthing more sinister is a foot as so much doesnt add up, lots of doctors and scientists speaking out only to be silenced.... Then we have the group that believe the official narrative thinking that the other group is a danger to everyone and is going to spread the virus around. Then we have the group against the narrative thinking the people who believe the narrative are the ones endangering everyone because they are sitting by as goverments put more laws into place, taking more and more freedoms away and before we know it it could be too late. So no matter which camp you are in we are seeing one another as the enemy so to speak but we shouldnt. We should just attempt to except we have different view points and opinions. All i know is divide and conquer is very much a thing and i think we are more divided than ever. I dont see a way we can all come together as one with two very different view points but at the very least lets not hate one another, or we all lose. " But who mentioned hate? It might suit the narrative for some to add that aspect for whatever reason but despite strong opinions hate is rarely aimed at people and when it does then it's called out by the majority regardless of where they sit.. | |||
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"It's a very immotive subject but many nurses must be used to seeing deaths as part of their job. There's been 34k covid hospitals deaths Annually 230k people die across 1200 hospitals (not this simple but 28 covid deaths per hospital over 8 months) The picture you have painted are rows of dying patients and nurses just going along each row It's not a conspiracy and it's deadly to a certain proportion of people. There seems to be an agenda behind every story that comes out. The nurse was scottish, was she located in Scotland? There seems to be a political agenda from certain Scottish politicians " i would assume its a bit like someone else posted ... different groups of nurses will be seeing opposite extremes its not as simple as take the deaths and divide it across hospitals and get an average... the deaths will have been in concentrated pockets, certain wards of certain hospitals where these nurses were seeing death after death... when you sign up for a job like nursing you usually have a strong desire to save people so seeing that level of death in a short space of time is bound to be traumatic this doesnt discredit the other nurses in certain areas of the nhs where day to day services where pretty much on pause ..: neither nurse is lying they just have different experiences i have a friend personally who “just dispenses medicine” in a hospital ... by that i dont mean her role is not important just that she wasnt directly on covid wards ... however she is now thinking about a new career because i think the stress levels on being on high alert all the time in the hospitals has taken its toll and shes also witnessed young healthy colleagues get the virus and be hospitalised and very ill for a long time and i think it hit a little too close to home for her i think its easier to play it down when you havent witnessed any of the fallout directly ... certainly is for me as i am no where near as vigilant as she is | |||
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"It's a very immotive subject but many nurses must be used to seeing deaths as part of their job. There's been 34k covid hospitals deaths Annually 230k people die across 1200 hospitals (not this simple but 28 covid deaths per hospital over 8 months) The picture you have painted are rows of dying patients and nurses just going along each row It's not a conspiracy and it's deadly to a certain proportion of people. There seems to be an agenda behind every story that comes out. The nurse was scottish, was she located in Scotland? There seems to be a political agenda from certain Scottish politicians i would assume its a bit like someone else posted ... different groups of nurses will be seeing opposite extremes its not as simple as take the deaths and divide it across hospitals and get an average... the deaths will have been in concentrated pockets, certain wards of certain hospitals where these nurses were seeing death after death... when you sign up for a job like nursing you usually have a strong desire to save people so seeing that level of death in a short space of time is bound to be traumatic this doesnt discredit the other nurses in certain areas of the nhs where day to day services where pretty much on pause ..: neither nurse is lying they just have different experiences i have a friend personally who “just dispenses medicine” in a hospital ... by that i dont mean her role is not important just that she wasnt directly on covid wards ... however she is now thinking about a new career because i think the stress levels on being on high alert all the time in the hospitals has taken its toll and shes also witnessed young healthy colleagues get the virus and be hospitalised and very ill for a long time and i think it hit a little too close to home for her i think its easier to play it down when you havent witnessed any of the fallout directly ... certainly is for me as i am no where near as vigilant as she is " The toll on some of the people who work in the NHS, some with many years experience of the things we the general public are usually protected from is going to be something they will suffer from in years to come.. They were dealing with their own Kings Cross, Grenfell and 7/7 day after day for months.. My hope although having seen one side of it is that the support and resources are in place for those who need to access it.. | |||
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"Back to the OP To Lionel, a big thumbs up for your OP "I'm getting that framed | |||
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"Back to the OP To Lionel, a big thumbs up for your OP
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"There are 4 nurses in our family. I tend to believe what they tell me. Their accounts confirm what the op has said. and bless them all x"  | |||
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"https://youtu.be/LBsSbS42IN4 "Certificate of bollocks...our service was dead, it was dead"" She is not a nurse. She was a call handler for a private company with outsourced NHS work. Hardly the kind of person working in ITU dealing with the worst of covid | |||
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"https://youtu.be/LBsSbS42IN4 "Certificate of bollocks...our service was dead, it was dead" She is not a nurse. She was a call handler for a private company with outsourced NHS work. Hardly the kind of person working in ITU dealing with the worst of covid" | |||
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"And before im hit by the grammar police. I know my last post was full of spelling errors. So bite me "Dear oh dear , very mis guided .. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. Words fail me. Maybe Just maybe those tik tok videos are a way of letting off steam after an horrendous shift " | |||
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"If anyone wants evidence PM me. I can give first hand direct evidence of the first wave. Anyone who thinks this is false/fake/overblown etc etc - get a grip. Mortality rates may well be less in a second wave - many reasons: therapeutic treatments are improving; the virus as with all viruses tends to become more benign (because it has killed its first hosts - the virus that continues to infect is therefore more likely to be a less fatal strain) many of those who died were frail already. But this remains a lethal threat and believe be dying from this is a foul and painful death. There is no conspiracy or con - it’s real. I know. " I think those that think otherwise are simply winding genuine people up | |||
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"If anyone wants evidence PM me. I can give first hand direct evidence of the first wave. Anyone who thinks this is false/fake/overblown etc etc - get a grip. Mortality rates may well be less in a second wave - many reasons: therapeutic treatments are improving; the virus as with all viruses tends to become more benign (because it has killed its first hosts - the virus that continues to infect is therefore more likely to be a less fatal strain) many of those who died were frail already. But this remains a lethal threat and believe be dying from this is a foul and painful death. There is no conspiracy or con - it’s real. I know. " Ive PMed you | |||
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"People who get their views from YouTube videos, refer to Bill Gates as a mass murderer; blame 5g for spreading nanobots and covid and subsequently claim that there is no pandemic; refer to others as sheeple because we don't happen to share their insane beliefs; are semi-literate and can barely string a coherent sentence together; should be asking themselves why the fuck anyone would listen to anything they have to say. " | |||
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"Sorry but this has been puzzling me for sometime. I accept that some nhs staff/wards were busy during the 1st wave and will possibly be again in a 2nd wave. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist. Thing is that nothing I've seen described as happening is outwith the job description. Maybe I misunderstand what the role of the medical profession is." Do you mean the effects of multiple deaths whilst on shift that many NHS staff were present during? | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... Nothing but admiration and respect from here. "I don’t know you so I’m not in a position to respect or disrespect you. I hope the words you type are wholehearted and genuine and that pride reflects in the work that you do. If so you deserve the ‘extra gratitude’ and I’m sure that would be felt, if not uttered, from those around you. Forgive me that I won’t blindly accept (or dispute) your statements... either, I believe, would be wrong! For those who do blindly support people who’s professional contact you have never received nor witnessed.... why? | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... Nothing but admiration and respect from here.
I don’t know you so I’m not in a position to respect or disrespect you. I hope the words you type are wholehearted and genuine and that pride reflects in the work that you do. If so you deserve the ‘extra gratitude’ and I’m sure that would be felt, if not uttered, from those around you.
Forgive me that I won’t blindly accept (or dispute) your statements... either, I believe, would be wrong! For those who do blindly support people who’s professional contact you have never received nor witnessed.... why? "Married to a nurse for 36 years.. Have several other family members also in that profession albeit some are different areas of expertise.. To be honest till last year when our Dad was in several local hospitals over a period of 8 months till we lost him in March I never fully appreciated the care that nurses give, it was seeing how he was looked after in four different hospitals that brought it home to myself.. I am absolutely comfortable with expressing support for another person in the same profession.. | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... Nothing but admiration and respect from here.
I don’t know you so I’m not in a position to respect or disrespect you. I hope the words you type are wholehearted and genuine and that pride reflects in the work that you do. If so you deserve the ‘extra gratitude’ and I’m sure that would be felt, if not uttered, from those around you.
Forgive me that I won’t blindly accept (or dispute) your statements... either, I believe, would be wrong! For those who do blindly support people who’s professional contact you have never received nor witnessed.... why?
Married to a nurse for 36 years..
Have several other family members also in that profession albeit some are different areas of expertise..
To be honest till last year when our Dad was in several local hospitals over a period of 8 months till we lost him in March I never fully appreciated the care that nurses give, it was seeing how he was looked after in four different hospitals that brought it home to myself..
I am absolutely comfortable with expressing support for another person in the same profession.."All people in that profession? | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... Nothing but admiration and respect from here.
I don’t know you so I’m not in a position to respect or disrespect you. I hope the words you type are wholehearted and genuine and that pride reflects in the work that you do. If so you deserve the ‘extra gratitude’ and I’m sure that would be felt, if not uttered, from those around you.
Forgive me that I won’t blindly accept (or dispute) your statements... either, I believe, would be wrong! For those who do blindly support people who’s professional contact you have never received nor witnessed.... why?
Married to a nurse for 36 years..
Have several other family members also in that profession albeit some are different areas of expertise..
To be honest till last year when our Dad was in several local hospitals over a period of 8 months till we lost him in March I never fully appreciated the care that nurses give, it was seeing how he was looked after in four different hospitals that brought it home to myself..
I am absolutely comfortable with expressing support for another person in the same profession..
All people in that profession? "I think I go with giving people the benefit of the doubt until shown otherwise, like any profession there have been and will be some who are less than professional, incompetent and even dangerous but I prefer a less jaundiced view of as i said.. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio." Those ppl were lucky of their wards were empty cos i can assure you my hospital wasn't empty especially at the peak. The tik tok videos were to lift morale and take their minds off the reality of the current situation. | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... Nothing but admiration and respect from here.
I don’t know you so I’m not in a position to respect or disrespect you. I hope the words you type are wholehearted and genuine and that pride reflects in the work that you do. If so you deserve the ‘extra gratitude’ and I’m sure that would be felt, if not uttered, from those around you.
Forgive me that I won’t blindly accept (or dispute) your statements... either, I believe, would be wrong! For those who do blindly support people who’s professional contact you have never received nor witnessed.... why?
Married to a nurse for 36 years..
Have several other family members also in that profession albeit some are different areas of expertise..
To be honest till last year when our Dad was in several local hospitals over a period of 8 months till we lost him in March I never fully appreciated the care that nurses give, it was seeing how he was looked after in four different hospitals that brought it home to myself..
I am absolutely comfortable with expressing support for another person in the same profession..
All people in that profession?
I think I go with giving people the benefit of the doubt until shown otherwise, like any profession there have been and will be some who are less than professional, incompetent and even dangerous but I prefer a less jaundiced view of as i said.."Now there’s the thing .... I’ve seen another side and, as such, an less inclined to offer benefit of the doubt ... largely because it’s unnecessary, if I have contact then I’ll be able to offer more, if I don’t I may be respecting or admiring a lazy uncaring fuckwit.... but they could be an angel. I would never rule anything out! | |||
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"There a panorama documentary and a BBC 2 documentary showing frontline nurses battling with Covid-19 patients, its hard to watch, but will open eyes to the reality of how bad it does get, so. Many nurses with ptsd now "My daughter s friend works in ITU.. she sobbed all the way home after her shifts in the beginning of lockdown .it was just horrific ( | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... Nothing but admiration and respect from here.
I don’t know you so I’m not in a position to respect or disrespect you. I hope the words you type are wholehearted and genuine and that pride reflects in the work that you do. If so you deserve the ‘extra gratitude’ and I’m sure that would be felt, if not uttered, from those around you.
Forgive me that I won’t blindly accept (or dispute) your statements... either, I believe, would be wrong! For those who do blindly support people who’s professional contact you have never received nor witnessed.... why?
Married to a nurse for 36 years..
Have several other family members also in that profession albeit some are different areas of expertise..
To be honest till last year when our Dad was in several local hospitals over a period of 8 months till we lost him in March I never fully appreciated the care that nurses give, it was seeing how he was looked after in four different hospitals that brought it home to myself..
I am absolutely comfortable with expressing support for another person in the same profession..
All people in that profession?
I think I go with giving people the benefit of the doubt until shown otherwise, like any profession there have been and will be some who are less than professional, incompetent and even dangerous but I prefer a less jaundiced view of as i said..
Now there’s the thing .... I’ve seen another side and, as such, an less inclined to offer benefit of the doubt ... largely because it’s unnecessary, if I have contact then I’ll be able to offer more, if I don’t I may be respecting or admiring a lazy uncaring fuckwit.... but they could be an angel. I would never rule anything out! "An not saying that mistakes are not made, ditto on experiencing what was essentially a mistake with someone very close several years ago.. There are structural and systemic issues within what is a massive organisation but fundamentally at its core is an awful lot of very good people working under pressure at times .. | |||
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"Oh and for the record, I've never done a stupid video, not jumped a queue at supermarket, nor have I received praise or free food. I do the job I chose to do because I love it. I expect no extra gratitude, I get paid for what I do but I'm also fiercely proud of what I do and will face up with anyone who would attempt to Disrespect me based on my job. Just saying... Nothing but admiration and respect from here.
I don’t know you so I’m not in a position to respect or disrespect you. I hope the words you type are wholehearted and genuine and that pride reflects in the work that you do. If so you deserve the ‘extra gratitude’ and I’m sure that would be felt, if not uttered, from those around you.
Forgive me that I won’t blindly accept (or dispute) your statements... either, I believe, would be wrong! For those who do blindly support people who’s professional contact you have never received nor witnessed.... why?
Married to a nurse for 36 years..
Have several other family members also in that profession albeit some are different areas of expertise..
To be honest till last year when our Dad was in several local hospitals over a period of 8 months till we lost him in March I never fully appreciated the care that nurses give, it was seeing how he was looked after in four different hospitals that brought it home to myself..
I am absolutely comfortable with expressing support for another person in the same profession..
All people in that profession?
I think I go with giving people the benefit of the doubt until shown otherwise, like any profession there have been and will be some who are less than professional, incompetent and even dangerous but I prefer a less jaundiced view of as i said..
Now there’s the thing .... I’ve seen another side and, as such, an less inclined to offer benefit of the doubt ... largely because it’s unnecessary, if I have contact then I’ll be able to offer more, if I don’t I may be respecting or admiring a lazy uncaring fuckwit.... but they could be an angel. I would never rule anything out!
An not saying that mistakes are not made, ditto on experiencing what was essentially a mistake with someone very close several years ago..
There are structural and systemic issues within what is a massive organisation but fundamentally at its core is an awful lot of very good people working under pressure at times .."Ok.... I’d say I’ll go for 60/40 in my experience ... the 60 being positive.... the 40 being disgusting uncaring human beings. I know it’s a small sample but I’d be into 10s not single figures with different experiences over quite a period and in different settings. | |||
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"https://youtu.be/LBsSbS42IN4 "Certificate of bollocks...our service was dead, it was dead" I find attitudes like hers pretty shit tbh. She never mentioned what kind of service she's in for a start. My area was quiet over the worst period but we used the time constructively to plan for getting patients and staff back in and out safely, we volunteered to cover shifts on elderly wards which were struggling and now things are picking up, my areas battle is starting. There be no handclaps or pop up hospitals for us and nor do we look for them. Not every nurse was on the front line per say but every nurse will have contributed in some way, be it covering sick leave in other areas or as mentioned, planning ahead. Except her obviously. I'm not buying into all the hype around covid but for an NHS worker to blatantly post that it's bollocks is a bit shocking. No we're not all angels but the majority of us are decent, caring people and I emphasise people not superheros but, there's always gonna be little princesses who behave like spoiled brats. Just glad she's not a colleague of mine or looking after a relative of mine. "Hats off to you for stating your area was quiet, I know nurses who were also bored on wards as their section was pretty much empty | |||
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"Thumbs up to the OP. But not let's forget carers in care homes who have had to watch residents die of the virus. Without the help of hospitals. I used to watch my wife come in broken night after night five 3 weeks in april. All for minimum wage also. Nurses are trained for those situations carers are not. Still take my hat off to nurses though." | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. You do like coming up with a lot of analogies to support your views, old people and now nurses plus others you've conveniently spoken to.. Are you saying there was no peak in March/April? The NHS and care members in my own family, some 7 of them plus friends in different parts of the country plus still serving ex colleagues currently driving ambulances would disagree with what you claim is one young nurse in the internet.. Btw if that is true she will be in a spot of bother and may the saying that.. Oh but its not "just one nurse" on the internet, its hundreds, there is 500 german doctors just few weeeks ago that came out and formed a group to fight back against this...they are saying there is no pandemic too. Ill get the video or link you to their group if you want. The doctors and nurses speaking out have nothing to gain and everything to lose. The ones folllowing the narrative are scared to speak out. The ones on tv and radio are probably are most likely bought and paid for just like politicians are." Your attention seems very selective and it comes across as disinterested in the substantial distress this has caused to so many people. The Germans BTW have been more fortunate than us, as their testing and tracing succezzes have resulted in far fewer casualties than here. It would be better to use credible literature sources for your research than MSM or social media | |||
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"Sorry but this has been puzzling me for sometime. I accept that some nhs staff/wards were busy during the 1st wave and will possibly be again in a 2nd wave. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist. Thing is that nothing I've seen described as happening is outwith the job description. Maybe I misunderstand what the role of the medical profession is." you aren’t wrong , it is all their job but i would think of it as the level of stress you cope with when you have your busiest week of the year at work depending on what triggers that and what you do, then that week happens week after week and not quite sure when it will end, constant on edge and high alert for the next big wave, people around you at work dying so you feel like despite working at your peak and trying your hardest you are still failing every day, scared you will get ill yourself or take the virus home to your family, so imagine the emotional exhaustion and stress on top of the physical exhaustion and stress...this all at the same time that me, you and joe bloggs down the lane are all working from home or furloughed and still stressed because its a global pandemic and that level of change and panic is stressful enough anyway without all the extra the nurses are dealing with so yes you are entirely right it is their job but i still believe many of them are in a scenario they never imagined would happen | |||
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My wife has struggled from the effect working in the nhs during covid. The worry of redeployment. The total change of her job. And she isn’t on a covid Ward. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio." Hahaha excellent | |||
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"There a panorama documentary and a BBC 2 documentary showing frontline nurses battling with Covid-19 patients, its hard to watch, but will open eyes to the reality of how bad it does get, so. Many nurses with ptsd now
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"There a panorama documentary and a BBC 2 documentary showing frontline nurses battling with Covid-19 patients, its hard to watch, but will open eyes to the reality of how bad it does get, so. Many nurses with ptsd now
The "bbc" yeah ok.
All paid actors no doubt to spread that fear.
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. Words fail me. Maybe Just maybe those tik tok videos are a way of letting off steam after an horrendous shift " They're not paid to let of fikin steam. You'd think they were the only workers on the country with stressful jobs. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. Hahaha excellent "You do know your agreeing with something since shown to be false..? | |||
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"The sooner you realise there is no pandemic and the pandemic is a lie the better for everyone. Can't believe some of you people on here just begging for harder tighter restrictions. There is no pandemic. " Correct. At worst an epidemic upgraded to pandemic by the criminally inept WHO. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. You do like coming up with a lot of analogies to support your views, old people and now nurses plus others you've conveniently spoken to.. Are you saying there was no peak in March/April? The NHS and care members in my own family, some 7 of them plus friends in different parts of the country plus still serving ex colleagues currently driving ambulances would disagree with what you claim is one young nurse in the internet.. Btw if that is true she will be in a spot of bother and may the saying that.. Oh but its not "just one nurse" on the internet, its hundreds, there is 500 german doctors just few weeeks ago that came out and formed a group to fight back against this...they are saying there is no pandemic too. Ill get the video or link you to their group if you want. The doctors and nurses speaking out have nothing to gain and everything to lose. The ones folllowing the narrative are scared to speak out. The ones on tv and radio are probably are most likely bought and paid for just like politicians are." | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself." I concur and there’s a load on here who wouldn’t Shame on them | |||
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"The sooner you realise there is no pandemic and the pandemic is a lie the better for everyone. Can't believe some of you people on here just begging for harder tighter restrictions. There is no pandemic. Correct. At worst an epidemic upgraded to pandemic by the criminally inept WHO." A pandemic is defined as “an epidemic occurring worldwide, or over a very wide area, crossing international boundaries and usually affecting a large number of people”. The classical definition includes nothing about population immunity, virology or disease severity. This is the dictionary definition of pandamic. I would say that fits with the current situation. | |||
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"I didn't see or hear any of the programmes /interviews mentioned in this thread but I do speak to my friends, 4 nurses and 1 doctor who are enraged when the conspiracy theorists and pandemic deniers spout their drivel. One said if it wasn't so morbid they would have a viewing gallery of their covid wards where these people could see for themselves. Sadly though, reading this thread, some people are so entrenched they would probably accuse them of being actors." I genuinely can't work out the deniers. I do understand that not everyone agrees how its been handled but to totally deny its existence 
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"I didn't see or hear any of the programmes /interviews mentioned in this thread but I do speak to my friends, 4 nurses and 1 doctor who are enraged when the conspiracy theorists and pandemic deniers spout their drivel. One said if it wasn't so morbid they would have a viewing gallery of their covid wards where these people could see for themselves. Sadly though, reading this thread, some people are so entrenched they would probably accuse them of being actors. I genuinely can't work out the deniers. I do understand that not everyone agrees how its been handled but to totally deny its existence
I'm not sure if its for attention, to cause upset or fear.
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"I didn't see or hear any of the programmes /interviews mentioned in this thread but I do speak to my friends, 4 nurses and 1 doctor who are enraged when the conspiracy theorists and pandemic deniers spout their drivel. One said if it wasn't so morbid they would have a viewing gallery of their covid wards where these people could see for themselves. Sadly though, reading this thread, some people are so entrenched they would probably accuse them of being actors. I genuinely can't work out the deniers. I do understand that not everyone agrees how its been handled but to totally deny its existence
I'm not sure if its for attention, to cause upset or fear.
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"I didn't see or hear any of the programmes /interviews mentioned in this thread but I do speak to my friends, 4 nurses and 1 doctor who are enraged when the conspiracy theorists and pandemic deniers spout their drivel. One said if it wasn't so morbid they would have a viewing gallery of their covid wards where these people could see for themselves. Sadly though, reading this thread, some people are so entrenched they would probably accuse them of being actors. I genuinely can't work out the deniers. I do understand that not everyone agrees how its been handled but to totally deny its existence
I'm not sure if its for attention, to cause upset or fear.
Some are intent on taking advantage of those who have mental health issues and will feed their anxieties and other complex issues..
It's a sick game.."I would agree, very much a minority but a very vocal minority who like to troll these forums and cause problems...maybe best ignored while we get on with living in the real world. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. Words fail me. Maybe Just maybe those tik tok videos are a way of letting off steam after an horrendous shift They're not paid to let of fikin steam. You'd think they were the only workers on the country with stressful jobs." do you not get lunch breaks? and never made a cup of tea or took a dump on company time then? oh and i presume the stress at your job can be literally the difference between life and death too then? if you think they were filming retakes while patients were flatlining on the ward give your head a wobble | |||
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"The sooner you realise there is no pandemic and the pandemic is a lie the better for everyone. Can't believe some of you people on here just begging for harder tighter restrictions. There is no pandemic. Correct. At worst an epidemic upgraded to pandemic by the criminally inept WHO." Oh well that's ok then. | |||
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"There a panorama documentary and a BBC 2 documentary showing frontline nurses battling with Covid-19 patients, its hard to watch, but will open eyes to the reality of how bad it does get, so. Many nurses with ptsd now
The "bbc" yeah ok.
All paid actors no doubt to spread that fear.
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It's the BBC."Excellent argument | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. Words fail me. Maybe Just maybe those tik tok videos are a way of letting off steam after an horrendous shift They're not paid to let of fikin steam. You'd think they were the only workers on the country with stressful jobs." I'm sure you will have the same attitude to them if you are ever in need of medical attention . | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. Words fail me. Maybe Just maybe those tik tok videos are a way of letting off steam after an horrendous shift They're not paid to let of fikin steam. You'd think they were the only workers on the country with stressful jobs. I'm sure you will have the same attitude to them if you are ever in need of medical attention ." Another pointless comment. If I ever am in that situation I hope they do a better job than when they let one of my relatives die through sheer bloody negligent and incompetent. Another nhs clapping, state worshiping devotee. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. Words fail me. Maybe Just maybe those tik tok videos are a way of letting off steam after an horrendous shift They're not paid to let of fikin steam. You'd think they were the only workers on the country with stressful jobs. I'm sure you will have the same attitude to them if you are ever in need of medical attention . Another pointless comment. If I ever am in that situation I hope they do a better job than when they let one of my relatives die through sheer bloody negligent and incompetent. Another nhs clapping, state worshiping devotee." State worshipping devotee? You are really astute arent you? If you dont support the NHS never use them. Simple. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. Words fail me. Maybe Just maybe those tik tok videos are a way of letting off steam after an horrendous shift They're not paid to let of fikin steam. You'd think they were the only workers on the country with stressful jobs." Personally I think I can do what i want on my unpaid meal/rest breaks .... if I get any in each shift. | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. Words fail me. Maybe Just maybe those tik tok videos are a way of letting off steam after an horrendous shift They're not paid to let of fikin steam. You'd think they were the only workers on the country with stressful jobs. I'm sure you will have the same attitude to them if you are ever in need of medical attention . Another pointless comment. If I ever am in that situation I hope they do a better job than when they let one of my relatives die through sheer bloody negligent and incompetent. Another nhs clapping, state worshiping devotee. State worshipping devotee? You are really astute arent you? If you dont support the NHS never use them. Simple. " He pays to use it . | |||
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"There was a Scottish nurse on 5 live before. She was talking about the toll it takes on nurses when they hold the hand of someone who is just about to die whilst they are looking at their family on the phone. They then have to move onto the next one.I cant even begin to imagine what's that like. So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. And after they move on to "the next one" they quickly get together and make a synchronized dancing and laughing tik tok video. Ive seen tons of nurses come out and say that their wards was empty and tbey had very little to do (even at the covid peak) and then get in trouble for speaking out. There was one young nurse who went on social network just last week. Showed her nhs badge and card and then showed off her covid cerificate of excelence to say how great she has been throughout all of this. She called it her certifacate of bullshit because she didnt do anything. She had way less work, mostly sat around. So yeah ive seen and heared more than enough of nurses and doctors saying the opposite to your nurse on the radio. Words fail me. Maybe Just maybe those tik tok videos are a way of letting off steam after an horrendous shift They're not paid to let of fikin steam. You'd think they were the only workers on the country with stressful jobs. I'm sure you will have the same attitude to them if you are ever in need of medical attention . Another pointless comment. If I ever am in that situation I hope they do a better job than when they let one of my relatives die through sheer bloody negligent and incompetent. Another nhs clapping, state worshiping devotee. State worshipping devotee? You are really astute arent you? If you dont support the NHS never use them. Simple. He pays to use it ." You know him? | |||
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"If he works he pays for the nhs like we all do. Who are you to suggest he shouldn't use it ." How do you know he works? Drs and nurses literally save lives on a daily basis and when they do you dont pay for it do you? And he is whinging cos they dance when they are on a break? If he dislikes it that much dont use it. | |||
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"If he works he pays for the nhs like we all do. Who are you to suggest he shouldn't use it . How do you know he works? Drs and nurses literally save lives on a daily basis and when they do you dont pay for it do you? And he is whinging cos they dance when they are on a break? If he dislikes it that much dont use it." Yes we do pay for it what an earth are you on about. | |||
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"If he works he pays for the nhs like we all do. Who are you to suggest he shouldn't use it . How do you know he works? Drs and nurses literally save lives on a daily basis and when they do you dont pay for it do you? And he is whinging cos they dance when they are on a break? If he dislikes it that much dont use it. Yes we do pay for it what an earth are you on about." putting into the pot that funds it isnt the same as directly paying for it ... i think you would get a fright if you saw an itemised bill for any treatment you ever receive , even if the nhs was picking up the tab | |||
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"If he works he pays for the nhs like we all do. Who are you to suggest he shouldn't use it . How do you know he works? Drs and nurses literally save lives on a daily basis and when they do you dont pay for it do you? And he is whinging cos they dance when they are on a break? If he dislikes it that much dont use it. Yes we do pay for it what an earth are you on about. putting into the pot that funds it isnt the same as directly paying for it ... i think you would get a fright if you saw an itemised bill for any treatment you ever receive , even if the nhs was picking up the tab " Regardless we still pay for it. Like anybody else that works. | |||
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"If he works he pays for the nhs like we all do. Who are you to suggest he shouldn't use it . How do you know he works? Drs and nurses literally save lives on a daily basis and when they do you dont pay for it do you? And he is whinging cos they dance when they are on a break? If he dislikes it that much dont use it. Yes we do pay for it what an earth are you on about. putting into the pot that funds it isnt the same as directly paying for it ... i think you would get a fright if you saw an itemised bill for any treatment you ever receive , even if the nhs was picking up the tab Regardless we still pay for it. Like anybody else that works." and regardless its none of his business what nurses do on their unpaid work breaks i feel bad for the poster, he clearly lost a family member and its difficult for him and sad, but being a bitter little man on forums suggesting the entire nhs and all nurses are incompetent and lazy wont bring that family member back or bring them peace / closure | |||
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"If he works he pays for the nhs like we all do. Who are you to suggest he shouldn't use it . How do you know he works? Drs and nurses literally save lives on a daily basis and when they do you dont pay for it do you? And he is whinging cos they dance when they are on a break? If he dislikes it that much dont use it. Yes we do pay for it what an earth are you on about. putting into the pot that funds it isnt the same as directly paying for it ... i think you would get a fright if you saw an itemised bill for any treatment you ever receive , even if the nhs was picking up the tab Regardless we still pay for it. Like anybody else that works." Given the amount of discretionary effort that gets put in by staff in the NHS I doubt very much we are paying for all the work they do. | |||
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"If he works he pays for the nhs like we all do. Who are you to suggest he shouldn't use it . How do you know he works? Drs and nurses literally save lives on a daily basis and when they do you dont pay for it do you? And he is whinging cos they dance when they are on a break? If he dislikes it that much dont use it. Yes we do pay for it what an earth are you on about. putting into the pot that funds it isnt the same as directly paying for it ... i think you would get a fright if you saw an itemised bill for any treatment you ever receive , even if the nhs was picking up the tab Regardless we still pay for it. Like anybody else that works. Given the amount of discretionary effort that gets put in by staff in the NHS I doubt very much we are paying for all the work they do." Aye whatever. | |||
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" So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself." You can't alter facts 9 a day (roughly) dying where CV19 is mentioned 18 a day from suicide and 175 a day from air pollution in the UK presumably they must have a different type of death? | |||
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" So next time someone starts going on about that it's a gmnt/bill gates conspiracy,or a way to control us,or it's no worse than the flu,or the cure is worse than the disease. Have a word with yourself. You can't alter facts 9 a day (roughly) dying where CV19 is mentioned 18 a day from suicide and 175 a day from air pollution in the UK presumably they must have a different type of death?" You keep posting the same cherry picked data from different years on pretty much every thread, are you having some sort of episode? | |||
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"If he works he pays for the nhs like we all do. Who are you to suggest he shouldn't use it . How do you know he works? Drs and nurses literally save lives on a daily basis and when they do you dont pay for it do you? And he is whinging cos they dance when they are on a break? If he dislikes it that much dont use it. Yes we do pay for it what an earth are you on about. putting into the pot that funds it isnt the same as directly paying for it ... i think you would get a fright if you saw an itemised bill for any treatment you ever receive , even if the nhs was picking up the tab Regardless we still pay for it. Like anybody else that works. Given the amount of discretionary effort that gets put in by staff in the NHS I doubt very much we are paying for all the work they do. Aye whatever." Look, I realise it’s a hard life on the bin lorries but don’t begrudge nurses the opportunity to let off steam. | |||
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"If he works he pays for the nhs like we all do. Who are you to suggest he shouldn't use it . How do you know he works? Drs and nurses literally save lives on a daily basis and when they do you dont pay for it do you? And he is whinging cos they dance when they are on a break? If he dislikes it that much dont use it. Yes we do pay for it what an earth are you on about. putting into the pot that funds it isnt the same as directly paying for it ... i think you would get a fright if you saw an itemised bill for any treatment you ever receive , even if the nhs was picking up the tab Regardless we still pay for it. Like anybody else that works." If you need a lifetime worth of treatment..do you pay for it? | |||
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