I don't remember that claim op. The current rules, although simpler than the were, have diminished significance when 7 or more people can spend the whole day together in a pub or other social business but are prohibited from needing outdoors, or in a non-commercial building. Heck, they can even congregate together outdoors for hunting.
Either tackling the virus is top priority and the magical number 6 is the significant number, above which viral apocalypse starts, or it's just another finger in the air rule cobbled together to make people think that things are being done.
It comes to something when allowing us to go hunting is more important than really limiting the spread of this virus |
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"I don't remember that claim op. The current rules, although simpler than the were, have diminished significance when 7 or more people can spend the whole day together in a pub or other social business but are prohibited from needing outdoors, or in a non-commercial building. Heck, they can even congregate together outdoors for hunting.
Either tackling the virus is top priority and the magical number 6 is the significant number, above which viral apocalypse starts, or it's just another finger in the air rule cobbled together to make people think that things are being done.
It comes to something when allowing us to go hunting is more important than really limiting the spread of this virus "
It wasn't a claim from the op but was in the news. Obviously missed that I assume |
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"I don't remember that claim op. The current rules, although simpler than the were, have diminished significance when 7 or more people can spend the whole day together in a pub or other social business but are prohibited from needing outdoors, or in a non-commercial building. Heck, they can even congregate together outdoors for hunting.
Either tackling the virus is top priority and the magical number 6 is the significant number, above which viral apocalypse starts, or it's just another finger in the air rule cobbled together to make people think that things are being done.
It comes to something when allowing us to go hunting is more important than really limiting the spread of this virus "
No limit (other than normal licence/safety limit) on boat fishing trips either.
Spoke to a skipper here in Looe yesterday. He took 8 people out mackerel fishing for 2 hours in his 20foot open boat. No masks required, no distancing etc.
Later he was using boat as a ferry across the estuary/harbour. 3 minute trip....Max 5 passengers, wearing masks as it then becomes "transport".
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"https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/boris-johnson-would-shut-pubs-22491645
It was all over the press..."
It was yes but it was simply more ' look over there..' from a government desperate to divert attention.. |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
Schools open, pubs open, R rate about to sprial out of control!!
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Pubs have shut in bolton... Preston is on the brink too |
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"I don't remember that claim op. The current rules, although simpler than the were, have diminished significance when 7 or more people can spend the whole day together in a pub or other social business but are prohibited from needing outdoors, or in a non-commercial building. Heck, they can even congregate together outdoors for hunting.
Either tackling the virus is top priority and the magical number 6 is the significant number, above which viral apocalypse starts, or it's just another finger in the air rule cobbled together to make people think that things are being done.
It comes to something when allowing us to go hunting is more important than really limiting the spread of this virus
No limit (other than normal licence/safety limit) on boat fishing trips either.
Spoke to a skipper here in Looe yesterday. He took 8 people out mackerel fishing for 2 hours in his 20foot open boat. No masks required, no distancing etc.
Later he was using boat as a ferry across the estuary/harbour. 3 minute trip....Max 5 passengers, wearing masks as it then becomes "transport".
But thems the rules!!"
What I don't get is why people still make a song and dance about the inevitable inconsistencies that come from trying to balance people's livelihoods with their health. Is it that people don't believe their should be any attempts to control the spread of the virus? Or that they think it is their obligation to try to find ways to break them? Or that they think that all rules to control the spread should somehow be "consistent".... As an example... That children should not be allowed back to school because it is a group of more than 6?
It's really not that complicated. Do what we can to stop the spread to you and your neighbours and friends. If there are any inconsistencies (and there are plenty... Exactly as there are with any other set of laws / rules... Consumption of alcohol for example).... Try and think of the bigger picture. |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
Schools open, pubs open, R rate about to sprial out of control!!
Pubs have shut in bolton... Preston is on the brink too"
I think there's an inevitably they will too, although if it's done it should perhaps be a regional thing as all that will happen is folk travel.. |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
Schools open, pubs open, R rate about to sprial out of control!!
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Schools need to open kids need an education you onlyu have to look what happens to the ones who don't get one to see how detrimental it is in later life.
As for pubs its not the pub which is an issue its the fuckwits going to them who do as they like with no regard to others thats the problem. |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
Schools open, pubs open, R rate about to sprial out of control!!
Pubs have shut in bolton... Preston is on the brink too
I think there's an inevitably they will too, although if it's done it should perhaps be a regional thing as all that will happen is folk travel.."
Theres quite a few pubs near me refusing entry to BL postcodes.. not all but some. |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
Schools open, pubs open, R rate about to sprial out of control!!
Pubs have shut in bolton... Preston is on the brink too
I think there's an inevitably they will too, although if it's done it should perhaps be a regional thing as all that will happen is folk travel..
Theres quite a few pubs near me refusing entry to BL postcodes.. not all but some. "
It needs to be part of the local restrictions.. |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
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That was because the teachers were all in there pissed and they couldn't get them out  |
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What I don't get is why people still make a song and dance about the inevitable inconsistencies that come from trying to balance people's livelihoods with their health. Is it that people don't believe their should be any attempts to control the spread of the virus? Or that they think it is their obligation to try to find ways to break them? Or that they think that all rules to control the spread should somehow be "consistent".... As an example... That children should not be allowed back to school because it is a group of more than 6?
It's really not that complicated. Do what we can to stop the spread to you and your neighbours and friends. If there are any inconsistencies (and there are plenty... Exactly as there are with any other set of laws / rules... Consumption of alcohol for example).... Try and think of the bigger picture. "
Totally agree.
Either people are thick or they're just making noise for effect.
This has always been about compromise and if people don't play nicely, the compromise will be removed and things will shut.
Then people will whine that we are living in North Korea and have to go on a march.
Pathetic. |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
Schools open, pubs open, R rate about to sprial out of control!!
Pubs have shut in bolton... Preston is on the brink too
I think there's an inevitably they will too, although if it's done it should perhaps be a regional thing as all that will happen is folk travel..
Theres quite a few pubs near me refusing entry to BL postcodes.. not all but some. "
And yet Bury is a BL postcode and that's not affected |
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I would guess we have had several hundred visits each week to each of the 46,000 pubs in the UK with no masks worn (because people are eating and drinking) over the last 2 months. So let's say about 150 million visits. In those 2 months the death rate has continued to decline to practically zero. When will people realise the pandemic is over. |
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Plenty of pubs and restuarants round me have been closed,three this week.
Went to coffee shop this morning would not serve me till I gave track and trace details,was taken to table which was strelised before I sat down very impressed.When ordering coffee at counter had to wear mask,all staff masks worn.
Will go again very impressed |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
Schools open, pubs open, R rate about to sprial out of control!!
Schools need to open kids need an education you onlyu have to look what happens to the ones who don't get one to see how detrimental it is in later life.
100%, this...
As for pubs its not the pub which is an issue its the fuckwits going to them who do as they like with no regard to others thats the problem. "
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"I would guess we have had several hundred visits each week to each of the 46,000 pubs in the UK with no masks worn (because people are eating and drinking) over the last 2 months. So let's say about 150 million visits. In those 2 months the death rate has continued to decline to practically zero. When will people realise the pandemic is over."
If your numbers are correct. It shows nothing other than the compromise measures have worked. To reduce the spread and to allow bits of the economy to operate. Good news I would suggest. |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
Schools open, pubs open, R rate about to sprial out of control!!
Schools need to open kids need an education you onlyu have to look what happens to the ones who don't get one to see how detrimental it is in later life.
100%, this...
As for pubs its not the pub which is an issue its the fuckwits going to them who do as they like with no regard to others thats the problem. "
And all this time the fuckwits have been fuckwittering around and the death rate has been declining without hesitation. |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
Schools open, pubs open, R rate about to sprial out of control!!
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3 words.... oh, its coming! |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
Schools open, pubs open, R rate about to sprial out of control!!
3 words.... oh, its coming!"
It is up your way...and no doubt we want be far behind |
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"I would guess we have had several hundred visits each week to each of the 46,000 pubs in the UK with no masks worn (because people are eating and drinking) over the last 2 months. So let's say about 150 million visits. In those 2 months the death rate has continued to decline to practically zero. When will people realise the pandemic is over."
When they hear it on the TV!!
Using our own brains is hereby forbidden unless the government say we can |
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Well pubs have been shut down for a week now in Bolton, and cases are still going up, so it's obviously not the pubs,
There is no way they will do a Bolton in Birmingham £££££££
Bottom line is, it's general meeting in houses causing it, and I'm afraid to say that the 6 thing is completely useless, as you can mix and match any random meetings you like with anyone from anywhere.
The 6 thing is only any good for targeting raves, big house partys and Maybe the odd family on the 6 boarder line |
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"I would guess we have had several hundred visits each week to each of the 46,000 pubs in the UK with no masks worn (because people are eating and drinking) over the last 2 months. So let's say about 150 million visits. In those 2 months the death rate has continued to decline to practically zero. When will people realise the pandemic is over.
When they hear it on the TV!!
Using our own brains is hereby forbidden unless the government say we can"
I don't own a television.
I'm not sure how anyone can claim a pandemic is over when the disease is still spreading. Unless they don't understand what pandemic means. |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
Schools open, pubs open, R rate about to sprial out of control!!
Pubs have shut in bolton... Preston is on the brink too"
Cheer my son up and make him save a bit of money, he just gone up there for uni!
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I work in a school every day more people are going off ,and speaking to colleagues it’s happening all over Birmingham ,every school as got at least 1 suspected case of Covid |
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"I work in a school every day more people are going off ,and speaking to colleagues it’s happening all over Birmingham ,every school as got at least 1 suspected case of Covid "
Schools are always going to spread things. It's a shame we didn't use the summer to get infection rates down further, so we could make sure our children had minimal further disruption to their education. |
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" It's a shame we didn't use the summer to get infection rates down further, so we could make sure our children had minimal further disruption to their education."
You mean like not encouraging people to eat out indoors in pubs etc ? |
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" It's a shame we didn't use the summer to get infection rates down further, so we could make sure our children had minimal further disruption to their education.
You mean like not encouraging people to eat out indoors in pubs etc ?"
Exactly like that. |
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"What happened to "if you want to open schools, we will need to close the pubs".
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That's what Chris whitty said. Unfortunately, he doesn't make the rules. |
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"I work in a school every day more people are going off ,and speaking to colleagues it’s happening all over Birmingham ,every school as got at least 1 suspected case of Covid
Schools are always going to spread things. It's a shame we didn't use the summer to get infection rates down further, so we could make sure our children had minimal further disruption to their education."
Agreed. Govt blinked too early.
On their 5 stage scale, they were doing stage 3 actions while we were still at stage 4, so that was quickly binned and forgotten about.
Should have stayed in lockdown, driven the virus down further, got all the systems in place for testing and tracing during lockdown. Then reopened. With a better way to control the virus.
Instead, we rushed to reopen and then will probably lead to locking down again. |
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"I work in a school every day more people are going off ,and speaking to colleagues it’s happening all over Birmingham ,every school as got at least 1 suspected case of Covid
Schools are always going to spread things. It's a shame we didn't use the summer to get infection rates down further, so we could make sure our children had minimal further disruption to their education."
Eminently sensible... It seems it was too much for some.. |
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"I work in a school every day more people are going off ,and speaking to colleagues it’s happening all over Birmingham ,every school as got at least 1 suspected case of Covid
Schools are always going to spread things. It's a shame we didn't use the summer to get infection rates down further, so we could make sure our children had minimal further disruption to their education.
Agreed. Govt blinked too early.
On their 5 stage scale, they were doing stage 3 actions while we were still at stage 4, so that was quickly binned and forgotten about.
Should have stayed in lockdown, driven the virus down further, got all the systems in place for testing and tracing during lockdown. Then reopened. With a better way to control the virus.
Instead, we rushed to reopen and then will probably lead to locking down again. "
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