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"I can think of a few people on here that would be excellent at this job! lol " I think so too, where do you sign up? lol | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get " .. i think you should be supporting them | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get .. i think you should be supporting them" Who says I’m not? I’m just being realistic | |||
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"Marshals,... like community wardens who already exist. Neither them nor the police have proactively enforced the policies over the previous months. If they had we would not be in the position we are now and heading for another lockdown, my opinion. H " I'm very much reminded of being stuck in class as a teenager. Group detention. "I need absolute silence for ten solid minutes then you can have lunch". Five minutes go by and someone whispers to someone else For fucks sake will you shut up Joe, I'm hungry and have been deathly silent all along. We're all in virus detention if we all don't play along. | |||
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"Wouldn’t want to be one but there’s plenty that would. Just imagining the prime suspects on here with hi-viz jackets over their semi naked profile pics " | |||
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"Wouldn’t want to be one but there’s plenty that would. Just imagining the prime suspects on here with hi-viz jackets over their semi naked profile pics " Yes I would have the jacket slightly open to show some abs | |||
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"What do you think of the idea? They said that they will be introduced to enforce the rules towards the social distancing. I think that it kind of is good, as some cant follow the rules, we are all in this together, would it be voluntarily? " Great idea | |||
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"Will it be like the air raid wardens in WW2? " “Turn off that light!!” | |||
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"I guess the government will soon require us to have a barcode tattooed on our forehead containing our identity number so that, rather like parking fines, the marshalls can just walk around taking pictures of groups and then send us the fine in the post." Yes, we need to enforce public health measures therefore the Mark of the Beast. Obviously really | |||
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"Will they have a sheriffs badge, stand outside the pub and spin a bottle of hand sanitiser like a pistol ?? " That's hilarious | |||
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"I guess the government will soon require us to have a barcode tattooed on our forehead containing our identity number so that, rather like parking fines, the marshalls can just walk around taking pictures of groups and then send us the fine in the post." Blair wanted us to be tagged at birth for security reasons!!! | |||
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"Will they have a sheriffs badge, stand outside the pub and spin a bottle of hand sanitiser like a pistol ?? That's hilarious " | |||
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"Will it be like the air raid wardens in WW2? " I can think of other examples from WW2 and none are pleasant. In fact it’s starting to feel like the build to something very nasty indeed. | |||
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"I guess the government will soon require us to have a barcode tattooed on our forehead containing our identity number so that, rather like parking fines, the marshalls can just walk around taking pictures of groups and then send us the fine in the post.Blair wanted us to be tagged at birth for security reasons!!!" Course he did | |||
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"Will it be like the air raid wardens in WW2? I can think of other examples from WW2 and none are pleasant. In fact it’s starting to feel like the build to something very nasty indeed." ... We need to protect public health therefore Hitler? | |||
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"Will it be like the air raid wardens in WW2? I can think of other examples from WW2 and none are pleasant. In fact it’s starting to feel like the build to something very nasty indeed. ... We need to protect public health therefore Hitler?" Easy link to make when you think about it So hows it going to work? They going to give out fines? | |||
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"Will it be like the air raid wardens in WW2? I can think of other examples from WW2 and none are pleasant. In fact it’s starting to feel like the build to something very nasty indeed. ... We need to protect public health therefore Hitler? Easy link to make when you think about it So hows it going to work? They going to give out fines?" Covering your nose and mouth and only having small groups is exactly like genocide | |||
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"So the people who don't agree with this idea , why? Are they not going to be helping the police to keep businesses sticking to the Covid requirements or are they for something else?" How will a marshal know which groups to monitor? Not all are required to socially distance. What constitutes social distancing as this varies dependent on government whims? What training will be given to become a marshal? Is there not the chance an overzealous or poorly trained one could end up wasting police time and resources? ---- Also, there is the argument that encouraging citizens to snoop and inform on their fellow citizens is something more suited to a totalitarian regime (like Stalin's Russia) than a modern, liberal, progressive, first world democracy. | |||
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"So the people who don't agree with this idea , why? Are they not going to be helping the police to keep businesses sticking to the Covid requirements or are they for something else? How will a marshal know which groups to monitor? Not all are required to socially distance. What constitutes social distancing as this varies dependent on government whims? What training will be given to become a marshal? Is there not the chance an overzealous or poorly trained one could end up wasting police time and resources? ---- Also, there is the argument that encouraging citizens to snoop and inform on their fellow citizens is something more suited to a totalitarian regime (like Stalin's Russia) than a modern, liberal, progressive, first world democracy." ./..so you would rather allow law breaking people to infect other law abiding people...??... there are a heck of alot of people out there who have no respect for the saftey of others... | |||
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"So the people who don't agree with this idea , why? Are they not going to be helping the police to keep businesses sticking to the Covid requirements or are they for something else? How will a marshal know which groups to monitor? Not all are required to socially distance. What constitutes social distancing as this varies dependent on government whims? What training will be given to become a marshal? Is there not the chance an overzealous or poorly trained one could end up wasting police time and resources? ---- Also, there is the argument that encouraging citizens to snoop and inform on their fellow citizens is something more suited to a totalitarian regime (like Stalin's Russia) than a modern, liberal, progressive, first world democracy." They would probably observe to see if they came in together? It hasn't changed for a while, 1metre with mitigation Not a clue. Probably So if you saw a crime being committed you wouldn't report it? | |||
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"So the people who don't agree with this idea , why? Are they not going to be helping the police to keep businesses sticking to the Covid requirements or are they for something else? How will a marshal know which groups to monitor? Not all are required to socially distance. What constitutes social distancing as this varies dependent on government whims? What training will be given to become a marshal? Is there not the chance an overzealous or poorly trained one could end up wasting police time and resources? ---- Also, there is the argument that encouraging citizens to snoop and inform on their fellow citizens is something more suited to a totalitarian regime (like Stalin's Russia) than a modern, liberal, progressive, first world democracy../..so you would rather allow law breaking people to infect other law abiding people...??... there are a heck of alot of people out there who have no respect for the saftey of others..." Maybe people should take responsibility for themselves instead of being reliant on the govt to hold their hand? Unless this is a way to massage the unemployment numbers via job creation? | |||
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"Maybe people should take responsibility for themselves instead of being reliant on the govt to hold their hand? " ... Unfortunately it seems we can't rely on people being responsible adults. | |||
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"So the people who don't agree with this idea , why? Are they not going to be helping the police to keep businesses sticking to the Covid requirements or are they for something else? How will a marshal know which groups to monitor? Not all are required to socially distance. What constitutes social distancing as this varies dependent on government whims? What training will be given to become a marshal? Is there not the chance an overzealous or poorly trained one could end up wasting police time and resources? ---- Also, there is the argument that encouraging citizens to snoop and inform on their fellow citizens is something more suited to a totalitarian regime (like Stalin's Russia) than a modern, liberal, progressive, first world democracy." There are numerous flaws to it. | |||
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"So the people who don't agree with this idea , why? Are they not going to be helping the police to keep businesses sticking to the Covid requirements or are they for something else? How will a marshal know which groups to monitor? Not all are required to socially distance. What constitutes social distancing as this varies dependent on government whims? What training will be given to become a marshal? Is there not the chance an overzealous or poorly trained one could end up wasting police time and resources? ---- Also, there is the argument that encouraging citizens to snoop and inform on their fellow citizens is something more suited to a totalitarian regime (like Stalin's Russia) than a modern, liberal, progressive, first world democracy../..so you would rather allow law breaking people to infect other law abiding people...??... there are a heck of alot of people out there who have no respect for the saftey of others... Maybe people should take responsibility for themselves instead of being reliant on the govt to hold their hand? Unless this is a way to massage the unemployment numbers via job creation?" ...you obviously have no idea about economics, as the recruitment of a few thousand or so will not be enough to massage any employment figures | |||
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"I can think of a few people on here that would be excellent at this job! lol " | |||
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"I wish it weren't necessary. I wish we'd all just knuckle down and beat this thing." we aren't going to beat this virus its here to stay ffs | |||
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"I wish it weren't necessary. I wish we'd all just knuckle down and beat this thing. we aren't going to beat this virus its here to stay ffs " So there's no point in aiming to contain it? Let people die? That's a bit barbaric | |||
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"Only Karen's need apply " | |||
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"Will it be like the air raid wardens in WW2? I can think of other examples from WW2 and none are pleasant. In fact it’s starting to feel like the build to something very nasty indeed." like Nazis recruiting the people to snitch and report on their own kind... | |||
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"I wish it weren't necessary. I wish we'd all just knuckle down and beat this thing. we aren't going to beat this virus its here to stay ffs So there's no point in aiming to contain it? Let people die? That's a bit barbaric" What to you would constitute "beating" this virus? | |||
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"I wish it weren't necessary. I wish we'd all just knuckle down and beat this thing. we aren't going to beat this virus its here to stay ffs So there's no point in aiming to contain it? Let people die? That's a bit barbaric What to you would constitute "beating" this virus? " Get it down to a level of infection where we can live our lives relatively risk free until we have effective treatments and vaccines. Apparently at a certain level we can treat it like the threat of tuberculosis (in the UK), which we don't worry all that much about. | |||
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"I wish it weren't necessary. I wish we'd all just knuckle down and beat this thing. we aren't going to beat this virus its here to stay ffs So there's no point in aiming to contain it? Let people die? That's a bit barbaric What to you would constitute "beating" this virus? Get it down to a level of infection where we can live our lives relatively risk free until we have effective treatments and vaccines. Apparently at a certain level we can treat it like the threat of tuberculosis (in the UK), which we don't worry all that much about." We're there now!! | |||
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"I wish it weren't necessary. I wish we'd all just knuckle down and beat this thing. we aren't going to beat this virus its here to stay ffs So there's no point in aiming to contain it? Let people die? That's a bit barbaric What to you would constitute "beating" this virus? Get it down to a level of infection where we can live our lives relatively risk free until we have effective treatments and vaccines. Apparently at a certain level we can treat it like the threat of tuberculosis (in the UK), which we don't worry all that much about. We're there now!! " No, we aren't, regardless of how much you want us to be. We still have significant restrictions and the cases are climbing again. That is not the same as where we were with tuberculosis pre Covid. | |||
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"So the people who don't agree with this idea , why? Are they not going to be helping the police to keep businesses sticking to the Covid requirements or are they for something else? How will a marshal know which groups to monitor? Not all are required to socially distance. What constitutes social distancing as this varies dependent on government whims? What training will be given to become a marshal? Is there not the chance an overzealous or poorly trained one could end up wasting police time and resources? ---- Also, there is the argument that encouraging citizens to snoop and inform on their fellow citizens is something more suited to a totalitarian regime (like Stalin's Russia) than a modern, liberal, progressive, first world democracy../..so you would rather allow law breaking people to infect other law abiding people...??... there are a heck of alot of people out there who have no respect for the saftey of others... Maybe people should take responsibility for themselves instead of being reliant on the govt to hold their hand? Unless this is a way to massage the unemployment numbers via job creation?...you obviously have no idea about economics, as the recruitment of a few thousand or so will not be enough to massage any employment figures " Thank you, but I know plenty about economics and the economy. I am well aware that marshals alone won't move the needle but add in track and trace personnel and other covid related occupations.... | |||
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"I wish it weren't necessary. I wish we'd all just knuckle down and beat this thing. we aren't going to beat this virus its here to stay ffs So there's no point in aiming to contain it? Let people die? That's a bit barbaric What to you would constitute "beating" this virus? Get it down to a level of infection where we can live our lives relatively risk free until we have effective treatments and vaccines. Apparently at a certain level we can treat it like the threat of tuberculosis (in the UK), which we don't worry all that much about. We're there now!! " The rate will need to be somewhere around one in one million. We've not been there since... February? Early March? | |||
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"It's probably just another headline grabbing attempt, as putting these people at higher risk of infection as well as abuse doesn't sound too great an idea. Policing by consent is the ideal. We have to build the bridges, healing divisions, then to get a move united country. Starting from the top, where much of the work is needed to be done. " Oh for sure. Communicate what we need to do and why, get people onside. ... I'm not sure the government are capable of it though. | |||
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"Watching news now and it appears they will have no powers to fine or arrest. All they will be able to do is advise on covid rules...another pointless announcement by our bullshitting government " Sounds like they'll have the powers to generally irritate people and be more hated than traffic wardens. | |||
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"Watching news now and it appears they will have no powers to fine or arrest. All they will be able to do is advise on covid rules...another pointless announcement by our bullshitting government " Thats a shame | |||
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"Watching news now and it appears they will have no powers to fine or arrest. All they will be able to do is advise on covid rules...another pointless announcement by our bullshitting government Sounds like they'll have the powers to generally irritate people and be more hated than traffic wardens." A bit like that Marshall from dads army | |||
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"Watching news now and it appears they will have no powers to fine or arrest. All they will be able to do is advise on covid rules...another pointless announcement by our bullshitting government Sounds like they'll have the powers to generally irritate people and be more hated than traffic wardens. A bit like that Marshall from dads army " Pretty much haha. What was his name? Hodges? That sounds right. | |||
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"Watching news now and it appears they will have no powers to fine or arrest. All they will be able to do is advise on covid rules...another pointless announcement by our bullshitting government Sounds like they'll have the powers to generally irritate people and be more hated than traffic wardens. A bit like that Marshall from dads army Pretty much haha. What was his name? Hodges? That sounds right." Yep that's him...but he had a tin hat I bet a few on here would want the job just for the tin hat | |||
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"Watching news now and it appears they will have no powers to fine or arrest. All they will be able to do is advise on covid rules...another pointless announcement by our bullshitting government Sounds like they'll have the powers to generally irritate people and be more hated than traffic wardens. A bit like that Marshall from dads army Pretty much haha. What was his name? Hodges? That sounds right. Yep that's him...but he had a tin hat I bet a few on here would want the job just for the tin hat " Don't mention the tin hat! That'll draw em like wasps to jam! | |||
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"You would not believe how many people do not know what two meters looks like.!!!. It makes me sick. How many come out of schools and universities not knowing basic measurements. Ask any one between 16 and 30 to draw to lines on the floor 2 meters apart. That frightening " Lots of men on here don't even know what 8 inches is. | |||
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"You would not believe how many people do not know what two meters looks like.!!!. It makes me sick. How many come out of schools and universities not knowing basic measurements. Ask any one between 16 and 30 to draw to lines on the floor 2 meters apart. That frightening Lots of men on here don't even know what 8 inches is. " We try not to mention that | |||
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"You would not believe how many people do not know what two meters looks like.!!!. It makes me sick. How many come out of schools and universities not knowing basic measurements. Ask any one between 16 and 30 to draw to lines on the floor 2 meters apart. That frightening " Yes! You wouldn’t believe the unimportant shite that some people between 49 and 51 get sick and frightened about! | |||
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"You would not believe how many people do not know what two meters looks like.!!!. It makes me sick. How many come out of schools and universities not knowing basic measurements. Ask any one between 16 and 30 to draw to lines on the floor 2 meters apart. That frightening Yes! You wouldn’t believe the unimportant shite that some people between 49 and 51 get sick and frightened about! " Unimportant shite Intresting Why am I thinking that?????.? | |||
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"You would not believe how many people do not know what two meters looks like.!!!. It makes me sick. How many come out of schools and universities not knowing basic measurements. Ask any one between 16 and 30 to draw to lines on the floor 2 meters apart. That frightening Yes! You wouldn’t believe the unimportant shite that some people between 49 and 51 get sick and frightened about! Unimportant shite Intresting Why am I thinking that?????.?" That it’s interesting... I have no idea ! | |||
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"Government ministers don't stick to the rules why should the people " Cos the government are dickheads!! | |||
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"Government ministers don't stick to the rules why should the people " Well, there's the problem in a nutshell. | |||
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"Government ministers don't stick to the rules why should the people " All government ministers? People know what needs to be done. Either do it or make excuses and blame someone else for their own choices... Like little kids | |||
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"Government ministers don't stick to the rules why should the people " ... so thats enough for you to break the law/rules...!! It's just a weak excuse imo... | |||
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"hmmm seems a lot of you have forgotten we live in a democratic society where we have freedom of speech and the right to travel and that their was already a law in place to protect public health for such a pandemic that we are witnessing now. So that law hasnt been repealed, we still ive in a democratic society and we still have rights that have been taken away by a new Covid legislation that has contradicts the original public health act. Now we have the gistapo sorry i meant the police who practice laws from their police cars or shopping retail centres, and not to mention the Government who seem to think to think they can tell me what to do in my own home, sorry your public jurisdiction finishes at my front gate and if i want a party at my place ill hold a party at my place. Now back to these marshalls, ill use the common law assault procedure against those individuals in marshals uniform should they lay one finger upon me " | |||
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"sorry your public jurisdiction finishes at my front gate and if i want a party at my place ill hold a party at my place. " Do you seriously believe that or are you just hoping? . | |||
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"sorry your public jurisdiction finishes at my front gate and if i want a party at my place ill hold a party at my place. Do you seriously believe that or are you just hoping? . " Ignorance of the law is not a defence, fortunately. | |||
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"Watching news now and it appears they will have no powers to fine or arrest. All they will be able to do is advise on covid rules...another pointless announcement by our bullshitting government " Just more local people put into a hivis top and at greater risk of catching the infection, from groups of people who probably don't care much. Of course, the local councils haven't been given any money to pay for these wardens, so it's probably not going to happen to much extent. Though the magic money tree that's found £100 billion for 5 million tests a day in a few weeks time, will of course have plenty more in it. Perhaps they should waste, I mean spend, £ millions on a warden app instead, that could remotely observe us at every moment, before sending us on a 300 miles round trip to get a test done, to arrive and be told that it's closed, like the 1 in Telford did to the a Welsh driver. | |||
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"Watching news now and it appears they will have no powers to fine or arrest. All they will be able to do is advise on covid rules...another pointless announcement by our bullshitting government Just more local people put into a hivis top and at greater risk of catching the infection, from groups of people who probably don't care much. Of course, the local councils haven't been given any money to pay for these wardens, so it's probably not going to happen to much extent. Though the magic money tree that's found £100 billion for 5 million tests a day in a few weeks time, will of course have plenty more in it. Perhaps they should waste, I mean spend, £ millions on a warden app instead, that could remotely observe us at every moment, before sending us on a 300 miles round trip to get a test done, to arrive and be told that it's closed, like the 1 in Telford did to the a Welsh driver. " Hey call me a old sceptic...but this money tree they have found must be lining a lot of pockets methinks | |||
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"I can see them being as popular as traffic wardens. If people are wise they'll just see the Marshall as negative reinforcements and it'll prompt the to comply with the rule of 6, hands, face, space. " I think they should give the role to traffic wardens who are already there anyway, give them a bonus for issuing tickets and we're all happy Bring it on | |||
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"Can see them getting slapped and abused.." Goodness. They're just trying to do a job. Why would anyone take it out on them? It's not their fault we have a pandemic. | |||
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"Great idea ... qualifications? Be a cunt and own a tape measure " | |||
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"Can see them getting slapped and abused.." So can I .. ridiculous idea.. You'd have to be insane to do that job. People will not stand for more lockdowns regardless of death tolls. Masks,, no physical contact, no socialising all borderline inhumane | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get " Why should they get abuse? | |||
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"Can see them getting slapped and abused.." Plus infected, mixing in large groups of people who aren't particularly careful with covid-19 protection etc. I'm hoping that they will get full pay, if the wardens need to quarantine | |||
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"Can see them getting slapped and abused.. So can I .. ridiculous idea.. You'd have to be insane to do that job. People will not stand for more lockdowns regardless of death tolls. Masks,, no physical contact, no socialising all borderline inhumane " As opposed to dying unnecessarily because people can't restrain themselves during a crisis? | |||
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"Watching news now and it appears they will have no powers to fine or arrest. All they will be able to do is advise on covid rules...another pointless announcement by our bullshitting government Just more local people put into a hivis top and at greater risk of catching the infection, from groups of people who probably don't care much. Of course, the local councils haven't been given any money to pay for these wardens, so it's probably not going to happen to much extent. Though the magic money tree that's found £100 billion for 5 million tests a day in a few weeks time, will of course have plenty more in it. Perhaps they should waste, I mean spend, £ millions on a warden app instead, that could remotely observe us at every moment, before sending us on a 300 miles round trip to get a test done, to arrive and be told that it's closed, like the 1 in Telford did to the a Welsh driver. Hey call me a old sceptic...but this money tree they have found must be lining a lot of pockets methinks " £billions have already disappeared via contracts where rendering wasn't required. Companies never done anything like this before? No problem . Deja vu! It's an echo of the ferry contracts given to the company without any ships. No need for all that red tape, if they're known in some way to the politicians, who are all very capable | |||
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"Watching news now and it appears they will have no powers to fine or arrest. All they will be able to do is advise on covid rules...another pointless announcement by our bullshitting government Just more local people put into a hivis top and at greater risk of catching the infection, from groups of people who probably don't care much. Of course, the local councils haven't been given any money to pay for these wardens, so it's probably not going to happen to much extent. Though the magic money tree that's found £100 billion for 5 million tests a day in a few weeks time, will of course have plenty more in it. Perhaps they should waste, I mean spend, £ millions on a warden app instead, that could remotely observe us at every moment, before sending us on a 300 miles round trip to get a test done, to arrive and be told that it's closed, like the 1 in Telford did to the a Welsh driver. Hey call me a old sceptic...but this money tree they have found must be lining a lot of pockets methinks £billions have already disappeared via contracts where rendering wasn't required. Companies never done anything like this before? No problem . Deja vu! It's an echo of the ferry contracts given to the company without any ships. No need for all that red tape, if they're known in some way to the politicians, who are all very capable " Amazing that as part of the EU they wouldn't have been allowed to do this | |||
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"Can see them getting slapped and abused.. So can I .. ridiculous idea.. You'd have to be insane to do that job. People will not stand for more lockdowns regardless of death tolls. Masks,, no physical contact, no socialising all borderline inhumane " There we go that's the attitude and why we need marshalls | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get Why should they get abuse?" As the whole idea is ridiculous and people won’t listen or take them seriously. They will be on a par with traffic wardens! Hated! | |||
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"I guess the government will soon require us to have a barcode tattooed on our forehead containing our identity number so that, rather like parking fines, the marshalls can just walk around taking pictures of groups and then send us the fine in the post." | |||
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"They have no powers so just ignore them. If they touch you its an assault, no matter what. " And this is why they’re needed ... seriously I wonder what motivates some people. | |||
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"I think it’s a sad reflection of society that it is even considered necessary. Too many ‘I’m all right Jack so fuck you’ attitudes is the problem. " | |||
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"Wow, this one I didn't see coming. They really are desperate to milk this one for all it's worth aren't they?" Who are they they and to what end are they milking this? | |||
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"I can think of a few people on here that would be excellent at this job! lol " True. They could wear a big ten gallon hat to fit on their two pint brain. | |||
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"So, how are they going to enforce rules? Will they have any actual powers or just expected to ask nicely?" No special powers to enforce and £30k pay a year apparently. | |||
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"What do you think of the idea? They said that they will be introduced to enforce the rules towards the social distancing. I think that it kind of is good, as some cant follow the rules, we are all in this together, would it be voluntarily? " they actually have no inforcement powers what’s so ever ?????? they are purely there to guide people and offer advice and to remind people of the laws ( most of which are not actually laws or have so many variations or exemptions they are pointless ) | |||
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"What do you think of the idea? They said that they will be introduced to enforce the rules towards the social distancing. I think that it kind of is good, as some cant follow the rules, we are all in this together, would it be voluntarily? they actually have no inforcement powers what’s so ever ?????? they are purely there to guide people and offer advice and to remind people of the laws ( most of which are not actually laws or have so many variations or exemptions they are pointless ) " | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get Why should they get abuse?" because the majority of the people there gona have to deal with aint wearing masks because they dont like taking orders.if the way community support officers are treated in most places is anything to gi by i dont envy the mask police having to try and tell them anything.complete waste of money aswell 30 grand a year for a job where u cant enforce the thing you have been employed to do | |||
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"So, how are they going to enforce rules? Will they have any actual powers or just expected to ask nicely? No special powers to enforce and £30k pay a year apparently. " Do wear wear special hats ? Do you score more points if you can knock their hat off without knocking them over ? You do with traffic wardens , it’s double points | |||
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"So, how are they going to enforce rules? Will they have any actual powers or just expected to ask nicely? No special powers to enforce and £30k pay a year apparently. " The govt can give me a bloody pay rise if they can afford to pay that amount | |||
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"So, how are they going to enforce rules? Will they have any actual powers or just expected to ask nicely? No special powers to enforce and £30k pay a year apparently. Do wear wear special hats ? Do you score more points if you can knock their hat off without knocking them over ? You do with traffic wardens , it’s double points " What do you get triple points for?? | |||
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"So, how are they going to enforce rules? Will they have any actual powers or just expected to ask nicely? No special powers to enforce and £30k pay a year apparently. Do wear wear special hats ? Do you score more points if you can knock their hat off without knocking them over ? You do with traffic wardens , it’s double points What do you get triple points for?? " Go on a date with one , socially distanced of course. I’m only joking traffic wardens are good things, if you pay within 14 days, £25 is a good value for parking wherever you like in a city for as long as you like, do it most weeks | |||
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"So, how are they going to enforce rules? Will they have any actual powers or just expected to ask nicely? No special powers to enforce and £30k pay a year apparently. Do wear wear special hats ? Do you score more points if you can knock their hat off without knocking them over ? You do with traffic wardens , it’s double points What do you get triple points for?? Go on a date with one , socially distanced of course. I’m only joking traffic wardens are good things, if you pay within 14 days, £25 is a good value for parking wherever you like in a city for as long as you like, do it most weeks " | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get Why should they get abuse?because the majority of the people there gona have to deal with aint wearing masks because they dont like taking orders.if the way community support officers are treated in most places is anything to gi by i dont envy the mask police having to try and tell them anything.complete waste of money aswell 30 grand a year for a job where u cant enforce the thing you have been employed to do" Imagine 30k a year handing out leaflets and sketchy advice.... Where do i sign up | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get Why should they get abuse?because the majority of the people there gona have to deal with aint wearing masks because they dont like taking orders.if the way community support officers are treated in most places is anything to gi by i dont envy the mask police having to try and tell them anything.complete waste of money aswell 30 grand a year for a job where u cant enforce the thing you have been employed to do Imagine 30k a year handing out leaflets and sketchy advice.... Where do i sign up " maybe I could do this as a part time job on my way to and from work. £100 a day would do me to talk bollox to people about a whole load of shit. | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get Why should they get abuse?because the majority of the people there gona have to deal with aint wearing masks because they dont like taking orders.if the way community support officers are treated in most places is anything to gi by i dont envy the mask police having to try and tell them anything.complete waste of money aswell 30 grand a year for a job where u cant enforce the thing you have been employed to do Imagine 30k a year handing out leaflets and sketchy advice.... Where do i sign up maybe I could do this as a part time job on my way to and from work. £100 a day would do me to talk bollox to people about a whole load of shit. " | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get Why should they get abuse?because the majority of the people there gona have to deal with aint wearing masks because they dont like taking orders.if the way community support officers are treated in most places is anything to gi by i dont envy the mask police having to try and tell them anything.complete waste of money aswell 30 grand a year for a job where u cant enforce the thing you have been employed to do Imagine 30k a year handing out leaflets and sketchy advice.... Where do i sign up maybe I could do this as a part time job on my way to and from work. £100 a day would do me to talk bollox to people about a whole load of shit. " | |||
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"It’s sad. Only people transmit the virus as far as we know. If people change their behaviour, the virus can’t survive. If everyone does their but we can be through this faster and safer. " Very true but sadly a small but vocal section of the population dont care if we continue in this current state indefinitely . I dont understand their motives for this and never will. | |||
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"It’s sad. Only people transmit the virus as far as we know. If people change their behaviour, the virus can’t survive. If everyone does their but we can be through this faster and safer. Very true but sadly a small but vocal section of the population dont care if we continue in this current state indefinitely . I dont understand their motives for this and never will." Me neither. You want your lives back? So do I. So do I. Throwing the vulnerable under the bus and denying the crisis won't solve the issue. It'll just prolong the issue and lead to more suffering. We're all in this together and we all have to do our bit. And none of us bloody like it. But we have to. | |||
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"The erosion of personal liberties is stunning and the speed of the changes to. The rules are so contradictory its stunning. Its getting more like north Korea every day or the former east Germany with stasi, jobsworths patrolling the streets now, its getting surreal, from the ministry of truth, Orwells night mare has arrived. Welcome to 1984." Containing yourself during a pandemic, including your germs. In ways that have been gradually relaxed since March. Yup. Russia North Korea China Hitler. Of course | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get Why should they get abuse? As the whole idea is ridiculous and people won’t listen or take them seriously. They will be on a par with traffic wardens! Hated! " You mean you and your friends won't take them serious. So you think it is acceptable to give them abuse, when they are just doing a job? | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get Why should they get abuse? As the whole idea is ridiculous and people won’t listen or take them seriously. They will be on a par with traffic wardens! Hated! You mean you and your friends won't take them serious. So you think it is acceptable to give them abuse, when they are just doing a job?" Don’t make this all about me They will not be taken seriously by a lot of people | |||
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"Covid marshalls do not have any powers but they can hand out face masks and handgel. They have no authority to force anyone to do anything but they can ask you to follow the pavement marking and follow the rules. In other words they are just scapegoats to make people think the government is taking a tough stance." No authority - what’s the point then? | |||
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"The erosion of personal liberties is stunning and the speed of the changes to. The rules are so contradictory its stunning. Its getting more like north Korea every day or the former east Germany with stasi, jobsworths patrolling the streets now, its getting surreal, from the ministry of truth, Orwells night mare has arrived. Welcome to 1984." yer i agree... especially when you look at the current data in the UK of hospitalisations and death rates, let's see were this leads and if in 12mths time we all feel this hysteria was necessary | |||
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"The erosion of personal liberties is stunning and the speed of the changes to. The rules are so contradictory its stunning. Its getting more like north Korea every day or the former east Germany with stasi, jobsworths patrolling the streets now, its getting surreal, from the ministry of truth, Orwells night mare has arrived. Welcome to 1984. yer i agree... especially when you look at the current data in the UK of hospitalisations and death rates, let's see were this leads and if in 12mths time we all feel this hysteria was necessary " It will be too late in 12 months time, the laws have already been rushed through curtailing any future freedoms when the government sees fit. | |||
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"What do you think of the idea? They said that they will be introduced to enforce the rules towards the social distancing. I think that it kind of is good, as some cant follow the rules, we are all in this together, would it be voluntarily? " At least this will create some new jobs. | |||
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"Personally I think they will not be respected. It’s kind of like police support officers which are perhaps considered a fake police person by some and have little or no powers ( no offence meant to pco s btw). Personally I think (unarmed) army would be better deployed in hot spots. Better trained and equipped plus more respected. We haven’t really used our services as well as we could have through this whole thing in my view even for logistics and supply. We need to get much tougher with the hot spots and hi viz jackets and clipboards won’t cut it! " Totally agree | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition !" because starmer is the establishment, its a big club for the elite | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition !" What human rights have been lost exactly? | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition ! What human rights have been lost exactly?" Yes I'd be interested to know as well | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition ! What human rights have been lost exactly? Yes I'd be interested to know as well" The right of assembly? The right to choose what you can or can't wear? The right to decide for oneself whom you can socialise with and where? The right for families to meet together? The freedom of travel without reasonable restrictions? The rights of parliament (government and opposition) to debate new law and policy? | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition ! What human rights have been lost exactly? Yes I'd be interested to know as well The right of assembly? The right to choose what you can or can't wear? The right to decide for oneself whom you can socialise with and where? The right for families to meet together? The freedom of travel without reasonable restrictions? The rights of parliament (government and opposition) to debate new law and policy?" Your rights do not trump public health. They never have done, we just haven't had to implement this level of restrictions since Spanish flu. | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition ! What human rights have been lost exactly? Yes I'd be interested to know as well The right of assembly? The right to choose what you can or can't wear? The right to decide for oneself whom you can socialise with and where? The right for families to meet together? The freedom of travel without reasonable restrictions? The rights of parliament (government and opposition) to debate new law and policy?" I'm fairly sure there have been numerous gatherings/protests etc Who is telling people what to wear? People are advised to wear masks to prevent the spread of the disease I'm fairly sure you can still socialise? | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition ! What human rights have been lost exactly? Yes I'd be interested to know as well The right of assembly? The right to choose what you can or can't wear? The right to decide for oneself whom you can socialise with and where? The right for families to meet together? The freedom of travel without reasonable restrictions? The rights of parliament (government and opposition) to debate new law and policy?" What about your right to pillage, murder and ape or drive at 150mph? | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition ! What human rights have been lost exactly? Yes I'd be interested to know as well The right of assembly? The right to choose what you can or can't wear? The right to decide for oneself whom you can socialise with and where? The right for families to meet together? The freedom of travel without reasonable restrictions? The rights of parliament (government and opposition) to debate new law and policy?" Yeah, none of those are classed as "human rights " mate soz | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition ! What human rights have been lost exactly? Yes I'd be interested to know as well The right of assembly? The right to choose what you can or can't wear? The right to decide for oneself whom you can socialise with and where? The right for families to meet together? The freedom of travel without reasonable restrictions? The rights of parliament (government and opposition) to debate new law and policy? What about your right to pillage, murder and ape or drive at 150mph? " Those aren't human rights, they are violations of. Big difference. | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition ! What human rights have been lost exactly? Yes I'd be interested to know as well The right of assembly? The right to choose what you can or can't wear? The right to decide for oneself whom you can socialise with and where? The right for families to meet together? The freedom of travel without reasonable restrictions? The rights of parliament (government and opposition) to debate new law and policy? Yeah, none of those are classed as "human rights " mate soz" You will find that they are. Hard won and earned. Unless you would prefer to live in a totalitarian state, in slavery or in subjugation or serfdom. | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition ! What human rights have been lost exactly? Yes I'd be interested to know as well The right of assembly? The right to choose what you can or can't wear? The right to decide for oneself whom you can socialise with and where? The right for families to meet together? The freedom of travel without reasonable restrictions? The rights of parliament (government and opposition) to debate new law and policy? I'm fairly sure there have been numerous gatherings/protests etc Who is telling people what to wear? People are advised to wear masks to prevent the spread of the disease I'm fairly sure you can still socialise?" Fair points. There have been protests and gatherings, but they have (technically) been unlawful. Especially since the introduction of 10k fines and also from Monday. Regarding the face coverings, the science is still not in agreement. So people can wear them if they believe that they offer group protection, but the demand by law to wear a certain item of clothing does intrude upon the rights of this free land in the same way that banning the burqa would. As for the socialising, this is seriously compromised from Monday (with no scientific basis)). | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition ! What human rights have been lost exactly? Yes I'd be interested to know as well The right of assembly? The right to choose what you can or can't wear? The right to decide for oneself whom you can socialise with and where? The right for families to meet together? The freedom of travel without reasonable restrictions? The rights of parliament (government and opposition) to debate new law and policy? What about your right to pillage, murder and ape or drive at 150mph? Those aren't human rights, they are violations of. Big difference." Indeed theft, ape and murder violate the rights of others... Driving at 150mph doesn’t violate anyone else’s right, at least not any more than conducting reckless behaviour which spreads Covid | |||
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""What you have to remember is that when societies lose liberty, it is not because liberty has been crushed under the boot of some tyrant. It’s usually because they’ve been frightened into giving it up voluntarily." Lord Sumption. Lord Sumption also notes that the human rights leaning politicians have been very quiet about rights being lost. Maybe they are not being gradually lost as some of you are suggesting. Kier Starmer(a QC specialising in in Human rights) has been very quiet indeed...and he represents the opposition ! What human rights have been lost exactly? Yes I'd be interested to know as well The right of assembly? The right to choose what you can or can't wear? The right to decide for oneself whom you can socialise with and where? The right for families to meet together? The freedom of travel without reasonable restrictions? The rights of parliament (government and opposition) to debate new law and policy? I'm fairly sure there have been numerous gatherings/protests etc Who is telling people what to wear? People are advised to wear masks to prevent the spread of the disease I'm fairly sure you can still socialise? Fair points. There have been protests and gatherings, but they have (technically) been unlawful. Especially since the introduction of 10k fines and also from Monday. Regarding the face coverings, the science is still not in agreement. So people can wear them if they believe that they offer group protection, but the demand by law to wear a certain item of clothing does intrude upon the rights of this free land in the same way that banning the burqa would. As for the socialising, this is seriously compromised from Monday (with no scientific basis))." I actually think there is s lot of shit going on behind the scenes .but I'm not sure peoples rights have been eroded just yet. | |||
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"I hope they are ready for all the abuse they will get Why should they get abuse? As the whole idea is ridiculous and people won’t listen or take them seriously. They will be on a par with traffic wardens! Hated! You mean you and your friends won't take them serious. So you think it is acceptable to give them abuse, when they are just doing a job? Don’t make this all about me They will not be taken seriously by a lot of people " You are one of the ones saying about the abuse they will get, so you have already made it about you. So I will ask the question again. You think it is acceptable in this day and age to give people abuse, when they are doing a job? | |||
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"So, how are they going to enforce rules? Will they have any actual powers or just expected to ask nicely? No special powers to enforce and £30k pay a year apparently. " Doubt it. Councils are being told they need to implement this and mention of financial support to do it is noticeably missing. Most councils are already £Ms out of pocket after the government renaged on their 'just do what it takes, we'll pay for it' instructions from 6 months ago. Hiring people at £30k a pop with no income from fines to offset the costs isn't practical when they're already stretched to breaking point. | |||
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"The ad for covid marshals was posted on the 5 March, you do know you're being played. Please god you know it's all a con, nothing makes sense. " Yet nobody has mentioned it for 6 months? That seems rather unlikely. | |||
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"The ad for covid marshals was posted on the 5 March, you do know you're being played. Please god you know it's all a con, nothing makes sense. Yet nobody has mentioned it for 6 months? That seems rather unlikely." check out the government website for March, it's there in black and white. You don't vet and train people in a few days. | |||
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