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Dump the plastic visor (if you have one)
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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I mean even just a Fashion Accessory they are 0/100 . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-plastic-visors-could-increase-risk-of-coronavirus-transmission-study-finds-12062704
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wish I could, but I'm literally inches from ppl that cough all day, I gotta wear it
Can you wear it with a mask too?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think a visor would be better than nothing surely. Also I have seen people who are exempt from face coverings wearing them, it shows others they are making an effort and avoids confrontations x |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I think a visor would be better than nothing surely. Also I have seen people who are exempt from face coverings wearing them, it shows others they are making an effort and avoids confrontations x"
Point Taken. |
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"I think a visor would be better than nothing surely. Also I have seen people who are exempt from face coverings wearing them, it shows others they are making an effort and avoids confrontations x
Point Taken."
I guess that possibly they increase the risk by
A, being a large hard surface that is operated close enough to others that its surface would be a good collector of the virus , then
B, I'd suggest a proportion of those who wear face coverings masks and visors absolutely are not clinical enough with their hand to mask hygiene and in that case the visor could be the most contaminated and plausibility the least hygienically handled
Currently my personal experience of my customers would be damn awful hand control
At least 80 percent cannot avoid touching hard surfaces
And then play with mask
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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yep let's not worry about what the nhs say's or any governing bodies for care and nursing lets all listen to sky and the sensationalist media ..... ill stick to the real advice ... |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"yep let's not worry about what the nhs say's or any governing bodies for care and nursing lets all listen to sky and the sensationalist media ..... ill stick to the real advice ..."
Except that the ADVICE came from REAL ADVICE and was 'reported' in the MEDIA. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"yep let's not worry about what the nhs say's or any governing bodies for care and nursing lets all listen to sky and the sensationalist media ..... ill stick to the real advice ...
Except that the ADVICE came from REAL ADVICE and was 'reported' in the MEDIA. "
And there's more to the article than a headline. so your initial suggestion to dump the visor is misleading. Read the article and if you can't be bothered to do that, the key word in the headline is could.
TLDR: Visors are not as effective as masks at blocking aerosol. |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke FREE ENTRANCE ALL WEEKEND |
"yep let's not worry about what the nhs say's or any governing bodies for care and nursing lets all listen to sky and the sensationalist media ..... ill stick to the real advice ...
Except that the ADVICE came from REAL ADVICE and was 'reported' in the MEDIA.
And there's more to the article than a headline. so your initial suggestion to dump the visor is misleading. Read the article and if you can't be bothered to do that, the key word in the headline is could.
TLDR: Visors are not as effective as masks at blocking aerosol."
And go to the reasearch website and read up yourself ! I never take a headline or a single story. |
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Yeah, there's more to it than the headline.
Masks are for exhaling and reducing the distance aerosolised particles travel.
A visor stops projected particles landing on the eyes.
Different equipment for different tasks. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think a visor would be better than nothing surely. Also I have seen people who are exempt from face coverings wearing them, it shows others they are making an effort and avoids confrontations x
Point Taken.
I guess that possibly they increase the risk by
A, being a large hard surface that is operated close enough to others that its surface would be a good collector of the virus , then
B, I'd suggest a proportion of those who wear face coverings masks and visors absolutely are not clinical enough with their hand to mask hygiene and in that case the visor could be the most contaminated and plausibility the least hygienically handled
Currently my personal experience of my customers would be damn awful hand control
At least 80 percent cannot avoid touching hard surfaces
And then play with mask
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Yes I would agree with most of your points. A lot of mask/visor wearers are likely to be touching them and thus potentially contaminating Thier hands, not sanitising or washing them and likely the visors will potentially have more germs on them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"yep let's not worry about what the nhs say's or any governing bodies for care and nursing lets all listen to sky and the sensationalist media ..... ill stick to the real advice ...
Except that the ADVICE came from REAL ADVICE and was 'reported' in the MEDIA. "
ill stick to the real ADVICE that comes to my office daily as i have done from the start i have over 300 people under me these stories do nothing but cause panic to staff ... |
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Yeah, there's more to it than the headline.
Masks are for exhaling and reducing the distance aerosolised particles travel.
A visor stops projected particles landing on the eyes.
Different equipment for different tasks. "
And the free movement of air inside the Face Shield still allows expelled air from another person into the mouth - nose and eyes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Face Shield is a shield for larger droplets from sneezing and coughing it was never and has never been designed for anything light enough to travel by air those droplets will get around a shield but with a medical rated mask on as well its good protection....
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By *atEvolution OP Couple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke FREE ENTRANCE ALL WEEKEND |
"Face Shield is a shield for larger droplets from sneezing and coughing it was never and has never been designed for anything light enough to travel by air those droplets will get around a shield but with a medical rated mask on as well its good protection....
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What like an aerosol? |
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"Could part of the problem be that the visor users are not trained in the use of them to the same degree that medical professionals are?"
Medical professionals wear them.foe a whole other reason
They may be reasuring to look at but absolutely useless to either wearer or bystander as far as Covid goes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Scientifically not always, as the wearing of most non surgical/ filtered masks do slightly increase your chance of catching something (think big thing over your face that one them touches to take off and then touches ones face again- spreading anything on it to their face) |
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"Scientifically not always, as the wearing of most non surgical/ filtered masks do slightly increase your chance of catching something (think big thing over your face that one them touches to take off and then touches ones face again- spreading anything on it to their face) "
And yet again, the purpose of wearing masks, or rather face coverings, is NOT to protect the wearer.
One day everyone will cop on. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think a visor would be better than nothing surely. Also I have seen people who are exempt from face coverings wearing them, it shows others they are making an effort and avoids confrontations x"
I have a severely disabled friend who suffers from dysphasia and dysphagia among other things. He cannot wear a mask. He does, however, wish to wear a "face covering" (the actual guideline advice). He has two visors. |
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By *am789Man
over a year ago
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Mask will protect you for 20mins before they need to be changed. They help stop you infecting other constantly.
What reasonable masks do is to reduce the level of viral load that you are exposed to. And there is evidence that you are more likely to be asymptomatic by wearing a mask. |
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There's no evidence whatsoever on masks, it's all pure opinion, Infact if someone did have covid in a shop they are more likely to be spreading it around via hands from fiddling with the mask every minute.
That is of course if the so called experts where right when they said it can last on a surface for 24 hrs. Or was that just made up bullshit too. As there is no evidence of this either. Just fear bullshiters on tv |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The masks are pointless as they are 4 months to late so it's like getting your gf pregnant then wearing a condom.
But also why at the start of covid that people with breathing problems were at risk yet now ppl with breathing problems are exempt from wearing a mask.
Also the 2m rule won't help you because if someone coughs or sneezes. snot can travel 8m and a visor won't save you.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Reading this thread i have to say you can go in any supermarket stay there for hours at door and watch how many people don't wear anything or use the hand sanitizer or clean their trolleys.... then they cough snezze all over the place and on grocers half of the people everyday are not bothered at al... just letting you all know... |
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By *r NeilMan
over a year ago
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"Reading this thread i have to say you can go in any supermarket stay there for hours at door and watch how many people don't wear anything or use the hand sanitizer or clean their trolleys.... then they cough snezze all over the place and on grocers half of the people everyday are not bothered at al... just letting you all know... "
Seems you embrace fear lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I mean even just a Fashion Accessory they are 0/100 . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-plastic-visors-could-increase-risk-of-coronavirus-transmission-study-finds-12062704
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There will be lots of welders going blind very soon.  |
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By *r NeilMan
over a year ago
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"I mean even just a Fashion Accessory they are 0/100 . . .
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-plastic-visors-could-increase-risk-of-coronavirus-transmission-study-finds-12062704
There will be lots of welders going blind very soon. "
A virus takes its cause simple ....
All ways has bollix this is an unknown .. |
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