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over a year ago
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Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ? |
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There are a lot of ifs and buts because an event of this magnitude, being studied in this level of detail, is brand new. We just don't know.
We need to knuckle down, reduce transmission, support each other from a safe distance, so we can get our lives back sooner rather than later. |
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By *icearmsMan
over a year ago
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Personally a second wave will hit, but we've now got so much more in place I terms of medical equipment we didn't have in the first wave.
It's going to be with us forever now like flu etc. And we have to get used to it and just be a little sensible. We won't see another lock down as the economy wouldn't survive.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm currently in 14 day quarantine because I visited a covid country. 
Hoping to do the same again in the winter but hopefully by then the 14 day quarantine will be abandoned because the UK government will realise we have the same level of infections here as the country I want to visit.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I shall carry on as I am doing now.
I avoid shops, and the muggles that are in them, I do as much online as humanly possible. I work at home. I don’t use public transport. I keep all but the closest family at arms length.
IF it hits, I shall bunker in and hide away from it all much the same as the previous months. |
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"I shall carry on as I am doing now.
I avoid shops, and the muggles that are in them, I do as much online as humanly possible. I work at home. I don’t use public transport. I keep all but the closest family at arms length.
IF it hits, I shall bunker in and hide away from it all much the same as the previous months. "
Ditto.
It's beginning to wear me down.
But I'd rather be unhappy than inadvertently hurt or kill someone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I shall carry on as I am doing now.
I avoid shops, and the muggles that are in them, I do as much online as humanly possible. I work at home. I don’t use public transport. I keep all but the closest family at arms length.
IF it hits, I shall bunker in and hide away from it all much the same as the previous months.
Ditto.
It's beginning to wear me down.
But I'd rather be unhappy than inadvertently hurt or kill someone."
That’s about how I feel, except that being a fat lump that I am, it’s more likely to kill me off. I think I’ll do all I can to avoid it. |
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I went to a funeral yesterday. Well I stood in a crowd outside the church watching the webcast on my phone. There were only 20 people allowed in. It was beyond sad.
And then we went to the hired room at the pub and were packed in like sardines. So of course I could not stay. That was even more sad.
The NHS did not get over run, the Nightingales were never used. We have to get on with life.
Stay sensible, wash your hands, wear a mask.
But most of all carry on.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My hubby and I were planning on spending Christmas just the two of us anyway... but after this year it’s going to be really hard not to spend it with my family like we usually do.
I’ve only seen my grandparents twice this year, and I usually see them once a week.  I’m starting to really miss normality. |
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"I went to a funeral yesterday. Well I stood in a crowd outside the church watching the webcast on my phone. There were only 20 people allowed in. It was beyond sad.
And then we went to the hired room at the pub and were packed in like sardines. So of course I could not stay. That was even more sad.
The NHS did not get over run, the Nightingales were never used. We have to get on with life.
Stay sensible, wash your hands, wear a mask.
But most of all carry on.
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The hospitals didn't get overrun because we did what we had to and it wasn't winter.
I do community work. Have had to be there for improvised grief counselling for people who've lost multiple friends and relatives to Covid but haven't been able to go to funerals because of increased risk to themselves. Watched conditions deteriorate because of the effects of lockdown, and because of care not available. Have begged high risk people to stay inside. Have had to withdraw support because of local restrictions. Have held my breath as people have had to do things we'd never let them do under normal circumstances.
I'm watching my colleagues struggle under the increased strain of it.
This winter may break us. |
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"It'll probably mean that I spend Christmas Day on my own That doesn’t sound good  "
Maybe, maybe not. We'll see when it finally happens.
Besides, I live ony own anyway and Christmas is just another day when all's said and done
But I appreciate the concern  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Virus forum.
This also. They need an unnecessary scary panic forum too.... 
We could really do with a new emoji for it all.
(Aggggwereallgonnadieface)"
True dat doh.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?"
My first thought on this is this should be in the virus forum, my second on this is this should be in the virus forum, this is a corona free zone, we like to immerse ourselves in snog, marry, avoid threads here in The Lounge, you know the real big issues of the day. |
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"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?
My first thought on this is this should be in the virus forum, my second on this is this should be in the virus forum, this is a corona free zone, we like to immerse ourselves in snog, marry, avoid threads here in The Lounge, you know the real big issues of the day."
All anyone who's not a mod can do is report it to ask them to move it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?
My first thought on this is this should be in the virus forum, my second on this is this should be in the virus forum, this is a corona free zone, we like to immerse ourselves in snog, marry, avoid threads here in The Lounge, you know the real big issues of the day.
All anyone who's not a mod can do is report it to ask them to move it."
Ta daaaa!  |
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"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?
My first thought on this is this should be in the virus forum, my second on this is this should be in the virus forum, this is a corona free zone, we like to immerse ourselves in snog, marry, avoid threads here in The Lounge, you know the real big issues of the day.
All anyone who's not a mod can do is report it to ask them to move it.
Ta daaaa! "
Indeed. I reported it when I saw it in the lounge |
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There are, understandably, a lot of 'possiblys' embedded in the second wave narrative, which often seem to be disregarded.
The truth is, nobody seems to know for certain, but historically there have been second waves and it'd be really unwise to discount them just because of a 'possibly'. |
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"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?"
That would really depend on the ability of the population to use common sense to avoid transmission
I guess we'll have a second wave then  |
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"There are, understandably, a lot of 'possiblys' embedded in the second wave narrative, which often seem to be disregarded.
The truth is, nobody seems to know for certain, but historically there have been second waves and it'd be really unwise to discount them just because of a 'possibly'."
I think it's worth noting that at high levels of expertise, noting the uncertainty and that there are lots of variables, is a sign of credibility. "This is my honest assessment of the data, which isn't straightforward and I'm not going to sugarcoat for popularity" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?
That would really depend on the ability of the population to use common sense to avoid transmission
I guess we'll have a second wave then "
What is this 'common sense' people keep speaking of? Is it a conspiracy theory like the world being round? Never heard of it.  |
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"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?
That would really depend on the ability of the population to use common sense to avoid transmission
I guess we'll have a second wave then
What is this 'common sense' people keep speaking of? Is it a conspiracy theory like the world being round? Never heard of it. "
I think it means "pander to people, throw them to the wolves, then blame them when it all goes tits up" |
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"Mystic Meg Fauci says second wave to be released in the Autumn."
What does an American scientist have to do with anything? And presumably he'd say fall, not autumn?
Although. Mysticism. Science. Transmission occurs overwhelmingly indoors. In colder months being outside is harder to do. In the autumn schools return and thus contacts increase (apparently a university in Alabama recently had more cases than Canada). Universities in some cases too, bringing people in from all sorts of different places.
Huh. It's almost like there's a reason why they say stuff. Magic? Nah. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Mystic Meg Fauci says second wave to be released in the Autumn.
What does an American scientist have to do with anything? And presumably he'd say fall, not autumn?."
What does Fauci have to do with it? He's the China virus medical expert for the USA government.
Yes he said fall. |
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"Mystic Meg Fauci says second wave to be released in the Autumn.
What does an American scientist have to do with anything? And presumably he'd say fall, not autumn?.
What does Fauci have to do with it? He's the China virus medical expert for the USA government.
Yes he said fall."
You mean that he's the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease?
Yes, he's become the de facto figurehead of the public health fight in the US.
Have you noticed we're not in the US? That the figures look somewhat different here? That the shit show here looks like a paradise, a dream, a miracle compared to the clusterfuck of fuckery over there?
That maybe we should listen to people talking about our own country when making predictions?
Or is most of the stuff you're reading American so you just pretend it applies here? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?
My first thought on this is this should be in the virus forum, my second on this is this should be in the virus forum, this is a corona free zone, we like to immerse ourselves in snog, marry, avoid threads here in The Lounge, you know the real big issues of the day."
pmsl maybe you have a point ! Lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?
My first thought on this is this should be in the virus forum, my second on this is this should be in the virus forum, this is a corona free zone, we like to immerse ourselves in snog, marry, avoid threads here in The Lounge, you know the real big issues of the day.
All anyone who's not a mod can do is report it to ask them to move it.
Ta daaaa!
Indeed. I reported it when I saw it in the lounge "
Well done  clap clap clap |
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It's going to depend on how good our government manages things.
Having lost the confidence and trust of the public, from the Cummings dangerous revelations and its not recovering, I don't think they will ever get it back. That's going to make things harder, which doesn't bode well with difficult times ahead and leadership that's probably going to continue to be as bad as it has been all along.
There seems a commitment to keeping society open now, for the sake of businesses. As people are going to continue to be in higher risk environments, coupled with seasonal changes that will make things harder, I do see things taking a longer time to get the UK on to similar levels as our neighbours. Difficult winter ahead |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Mystic Meg Fauci says second wave to be released in the Autumn.
What does an American scientist have to do with anything? And presumably he'd say fall, not autumn?.
What does Fauci have to do with it? He's the China virus medical expert for the USA government.
Yes he said fall.
You mean that he's the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease?
Yes, he's become the de facto figurehead of the public health fight in the US.
Have you noticed we're not in the US? That the figures look somewhat different here? That the shit show here looks like a paradise, a dream, a miracle compared to the clusterfuck of fuckery over there?
That maybe we should listen to people talking about our own country when making predictions?
Or is most of the stuff you're reading American so you just pretend it applies here?"
A lot of anger issues |
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"Mystic Meg Fauci says second wave to be released in the Autumn.
What does an American scientist have to do with anything? And presumably he'd say fall, not autumn?.
What does Fauci have to do with it? He's the China virus medical expert for the USA government.
Yes he said fall.
You mean that he's the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease?
Yes, he's become the de facto figurehead of the public health fight in the US.
Have you noticed we're not in the US? That the figures look somewhat different here? That the shit show here looks like a paradise, a dream, a miracle compared to the clusterfuck of fuckery over there?
That maybe we should listen to people talking about our own country when making predictions?
Or is most of the stuff you're reading American so you just pretend it applies here?
A lot of anger issues "
Ooh. Accusing a woman of being irrational. Edgy and science based  |
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By *lan157Man
over a year ago
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"Why do you think some shops have xmas stuff in already "
because they want us to eat ridiculous amounts of chocolate and sweets and create mountains of single use plastic boxes |
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The press keep reporting negative things and doom and gloom as that is what sells they know we will lap up the negative and talk about it for weeks while positive news is passed over very quickly as it doesn t sell. If there is a second wave think it may be localised spikes as opposed to a full country emergency. But here in wales i think even if things all went back to normal tomorrow the powers that be in cardiff will still try keep us in lock down. Think it may be time as some say to protect the vulnerable and the rest of us just get on with it . |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?"
Problaby will happen because people will act like idiots because it is Christmas and do the same at new year
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well after watching a programme the other night about the 2nd wave of coronavirus around Christmas ! Their was a lot of if’s and but’s ! What are your thoughts on this and how it may affect you ?"
Project fear. |
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By *om girlCouple (FF)
over a year ago
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Please people this may offend a few but start to use your brains
The second wave will come after xmas or when the flu usually kills people
People are like sheep and never question what they being told and scare people into change history does the same thing over and over...
Well why should we wait till winter for second wave when according to the government more people getting infected
Surly more infected means more death
But in the last 7 days only 125 people died
Less than in previous years
So unless you cant see it something doesnt add up
Flu usually kills loads of people in winter and thats why ul see a second wave then
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Judging by the latest results the second wave may well be on its way well before Christmas. Sadly too many people are ignoring government guidelines for anything to be effective. Fortunately at the moment the majority of cases seem to be in the under 40s and so death rates are low but as the kids go back to school and the weather deteriorates and people spend more time together indoors things may change drastically. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Am thinking that as long as the old and those with underlying health problems isolate or take precautions then things will be fine "
They will need to be locked up in isolation camps away from their families who may infect them. No visitors.
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"Am thinking that as long as the old and those with underlying health problems isolate or take precautions then things will be fine "
For the purposes of this virus old is 55/60 and over I have been advised. Do you know what percentage of the work force, including many key workers, that would remove from the population? Excellent idea you may say, jobs for youngsters but it's still removing a big section of spending from the economy. It will also take a lot of child care providers out of the picture, voluntary workers and the National Trust along with crimplene slacks manufacturers would go bust. |
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By *andR510Couple
over a year ago
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"Please people this may offend a few but start to use your brains
The second wave will come after xmas or when the flu usually kills people
People are like sheep and never question what they being told and scare people into change history does the same thing over and over...
Well why should we wait till winter for second wave when according to the government more people getting infected
Surly more infected means more death
But in the last 7 days only 125 people died
Less than in previous years
So unless you cant see it something doesnt add up
Flu usually kills loads of people in winter and thats why ul see a second wave then
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Flu will kill less because those who would usually be vulnerable have already lost their lives.
The 2nd wave scare has been coming for the last 5 months, just more scare tactics and fearmongering.
As you say, numbers are down massively and recovery rates are well up, but there's still people who believe we are in imminent danger of dying |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I shall carry on as I am doing now.
I avoid shops, and the muggles that are in them, I do as much online as humanly possible. I work at home. I don’t use public transport. I keep all but the closest family at arms length.
IF it hits, I shall bunker in and hide away from it all much the same as the previous months. "
Muggles? Seriously...head out of a**e as some of us work in shops and some of us cannot work from home. but well done for working at home and bunkering down...one less Covid police on the streets
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I shall carry on as I am doing now.
I avoid shops, and the muggles that are in them, I do as much online as humanly possible. I work at home. I don’t use public transport. I keep all but the closest family at arms length.
IF it hits, I shall bunker in and hide away from it all much the same as the previous months. "
Muggles? Seriously...head out of a**e as some of us work in shops and some of us cannot work from home. but well done for working at home and bunkering down...one less Covid police on the streets
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
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"Please people this may offend a few but start to use your brains
The second wave will come after xmas or when the flu usually kills people
People are like sheep and never question what they being told and scare people into change history does the same thing over and over...
Well why should we wait till winter for second wave when according to the government more people getting infected
Surly more infected means more death
But in the last 7 days only 125 people died
Less than in previous years
So unless you cant see it something doesnt add up
Flu usually kills loads of people in winter and thats why ul see a second wave then
Flu will kill less because those who would usually be vulnerable have already lost their lives.
The 2nd wave scare has been coming for the last 5 months, just more scare tactics and fearmongering.
As you say, numbers are down massively and recovery rates are well up, but there's still people who believe we are in imminent danger of dying "
Flu could easily kill more, there are more people about that have a lower immunity to it. Yes, flu will take out the old who have other conditions, but past flu epidemics took out many youngsters who were born post last outbreaks, if you have survived the last outbreak, you are more likely to survive the next. Make no mistake, each winter the NHS holds it breath and hopes for the best regarding the flu. |
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