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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Wouldn't surprise me. I certainly seem to get a cold once a year or so it would seem. It's an annual treat  Not........
And every other time I come back from Bulgaria I have some horrible Lurge or another. Funnily enough they seem to be doing quite well in the Covid stakes and I think they've been exposed to flu type stuff every year as their schools for the past couple or so have had flu shut downs in Winter while we have been there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Meh, I have the flu jab every year, get my bloods drawn every 3 months and visit the STI clinic 2 weeks after meets (I use condoms but I like having peace of mind). If/when they do come out with a vaccine I wouldn't find it any more inconvenient to just get a booster shot every couple of months. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Look at data from S Korea. A few cases of recovered patients testing positive some time later. No symptoms and researchers unable to culture living virus from samples. I searched a little while back for anyone who had recovered getting ill again from the virus but could not find any. |
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"Yes it could (and probably is) an isolated instance. He could have been infected with a different strain. Testing positive is also a poor indication of how well the immune system has responded. "
Yes it was stated that it was a mutated strain from the original.
Ive not been too convinced by a vaccine from the start going by what the experts have said. Only hope is that it mutates into a weak strain and eventually becomes a non problem to everyday life. |
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over a year ago
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"A study in hong kong has confirmed that a man in his 30s has been reinfected witg covid.
Putting a long term vaccine in doubt.
Could this be an isolated incident?"
It could be and I hope it is, however it is not unexpected.
In this case, the individual had definately been reinfected as genetic sequencing showed he had caught a different strain of the virus each time.
That rings two different alarm bells :
1 - Immunity from covid may be, as many researchers have suspected, short lived which poses major concerns for vaccine development
2 - The virus may have mutated sufficiently to be able to reinfect people who have immunity to other strains.
Both of these are not at all unusual for coronaviruses, however ot should be pointed out that a sample size of one proves nothing, the statistical evidence still suggests reinfection with Covid is very rare and the virus so far appears largely genetically stable.
With all that said, the initial emergence of the virus in the east was now around 6 months ago so it's also possible that short term immunity is beginning to wear off in.
Time will tell. |
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"Look at data from S Korea. A few cases of recovered patients testing positive some time later. No symptoms and researchers unable to culture living virus from samples. I searched a little while back for anyone who had recovered getting ill again from the virus but could not find any."
This guy is the first person to definitively catch covid twice. They haven't said how ill he was either time. The studies with monkey who were deliberately infected showed that they could catch covid more than once. The good news was they didn't get very ill the 2nd time they were infected. The bad news was they could still pass covid on to others. |
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It's the only confirmed person, so may be something that will stay extremely rare or could be something that will become more visible, if the immunity gained from having it, is short-lived.
It's too early in a new virus's life span to know just yet, how rare or common reinfections will become.
The virus DNA of the recent infection was slightly different |
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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They have said that one isolated incident isn't enough to prove that you can catch it twice, plus the article I read said he was showing no symptoms (definitely the second time, I'm not sure about the 1st).
Obviously he could still potentially pass it on to others.
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"Look at data from S Korea. A few cases of recovered patients testing positive some time later. No symptoms and researchers unable to culture living virus from samples. I searched a little while back for anyone who had recovered getting ill again from the virus but could not find any.
This guy is the first person to definitively catch covid twice. They haven't said how ill he was either time. The studies with monkey who were deliberately infected showed that they could catch covid more than once. The good news was they didn't get very ill the 2nd time they were infected. The bad news was they could still pass covid on to others."
I think I read that he had very mild symptoms in the second infection, which is the positive aspect of this. A sample size of 1 is obviously insufficient to draw many conclusions, of course |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"Yes it could (and probably is) an isolated instance. He could have been infected with a different strain. Testing positive is also a poor indication of how well the immune system has responded. "
**"...it could (and probably is) an isolated instance..."**
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And it is also possible that this is not an isolated case. It could probably be the start of many more cases to follow.
Corona viruses can come in different strains and can sometimes mutate, so being infected once does not automatically make you immune from different strains or mutations of the same virus. The common cold is a corona virus as well, but you can get it more than once. So it should be no surprise if you get covid 19 more than once.
Also this not the first time we have heard of reinfection. There have been previous claims of other people being reinfected before. But some of those claims were dismissed because the evidence was not strong enough.
Another thing to note is that this is just the first *recorded case* of reinfection.There may be many more cases which we we don't know about yet. In some cases when you are reinfected by a virus, the second infection is not as serious as the first, so some people don't even know that they have been reinfected, as they may display little or no symptoms the second time. And that is what happened to this 33 old chap. He had no symptoms the second time, his reinfection was only picked up through a routine check.
There could be other people around like this chap who have been reinfected, but just not aware of it because they display no symptoms.
Again even if we have immunity we don't know long it lasts for. If immunity for the virus lasts only 4-8 months, then we might see more reinfections in the coming months as immunity wanes.
As I have said on these threads many times before: There is no conclusive scientific evidence (yet) on the issue of covid 19 immunity. This virus is new and still under research & review, so we still don't know about all the details surrounding its immunity. |
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One confirmed case of re-infection out of 3 million confirmed cases is a point to be cautious rather than panic. There are other infectious diseases which will re-infect a small number of people who have previously been exposed, eg chicken pox/ shingles. |
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"One confirmed case of re-infection out of 3 million confirmed cases is a point to be cautious rather than panic. There are other infectious diseases which will re-infect a small number of people who have previously been exposed, eg chicken pox/ shingles. "
Plus immunity from a vaccine may work differently to natural immunity. Or may mean less severe disease. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Apparently he had it first months ago in hongkong to which he was showing antibodies for a few months. The antibodies disappeared after around 3 months.
Then he went on holiday to spain via...wait for it....Heathrow ffs.
So it was identified a good while back that the Asian strain seemed to be not as severe as the European strain...but nevertheless they are different and I think most of us thought this would happen.
It's just a shame they are not saying to what severity he had it the second time. |
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over a year ago
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"A study in hong kong has confirmed that a man in his 30s has been reinfected witg covid.
Putting a long term vaccine in doubt.
Could this be an isolated incident?
Happens with flu every year."
Yes a vaccine should be annually just like a flu jab. |
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"A study in hong kong has confirmed that a man in his 30s has been reinfected witg covid.
Putting a long term vaccine in doubt.
Could this be an isolated incident?
Happens with flu every year.
Yes a vaccine should be annually just like a flu jab. "
There's a new flu vaccine that i is different to our current type, that have a blend of the Influenza A and B strains forecast to be most prevalent. It is designed to give universal flu immunity, so may not need annual updates, based on the forecast strains. Last I heard, it was under negotiation, for potential use next year.
2 more Europeans have also been identified as having been reinfected by this virus, so I'm assuming that several more cases will be highlighted, since the research was published. It's still seemingly at low levels but we also know, of course, that many people having covid-19 have no symptoms the first time. That incidents may be similar for reinfections too. |
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"A study in hong kong has confirmed that a man in his 30s has been reinfected witg covid.
Putting a long term vaccine in doubt.
Could this be an isolated incident?
Happens with flu every year.
Yes a vaccine should be annually just like a flu jab.
There's a new flu vaccine that i is different to our current type, that have a blend of the Influenza A and B strains forecast to be most prevalent. It is designed to give universal flu immunity, so may not need annual updates, based on the forecast strains. Last I heard, it was under negotiation, for potential use next year.
2 more Europeans have also been identified as having been reinfected by this virus, so I'm assuming that several more cases will be highlighted, since the research was published. It's still seemingly at low levels but we also know, of course, that many people having covid-19 have no symptoms the first time. That incidents may be similar for reinfections too. "
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"A study in hong kong has confirmed that a man in his 30s has been reinfected witg covid.
Putting a long term vaccine in doubt.
Could this be an isolated incident?
Happens with flu every year.
Yes a vaccine should be annually just like a flu jab.
There's a new flu vaccine that i is different to our current type, that have a blend of the Influenza A and B strains forecast to be most prevalent. It is designed to give universal flu immunity, so may not need annual updates, based on the forecast strains. Last I heard, it was under negotiation, for potential use next year.
2 more Europeans have also been identified as having been reinfected by this virus, so I'm assuming that several more cases will be highlighted, since the research was published. It's still seemingly at low levels but we also know, of course, that many people having covid-19 have no symptoms the first time. That incidents may be similar for reinfections too. "
Let's hope the Boffins at Boffin'HQ can find the Silver Bullet. Or at least a Magazine Full of Silver Bullets.
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By *om girlCouple (FF)
over a year ago
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You will always get re infected
Its a virus not an infection.
They NOT GOT a cure for flu and that kills people every year so i dont think ul be curing this in a hurry its from same family but stronger |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You will always get re infected
Its a virus not an infection.
They NOT GOT a cure for flu and that kills people every year so i dont think ul be curing this in a hurry its from same family but stronger"
Flu is NOT a coronavirus. Odly some strains of common cold ARE. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A study in hong kong has confirmed that a man in his 30s has been reinfected witg covid.
Putting a long term vaccine in doubt.
Could this be an isolated incident?"
No, our friends mum in her 79's was infected, no symptoms, declared clear and two weeks ago tested + again, no symptoms whatsoever.
She lives in sheltered housing and has been locked down for the best part of 6 months, contact verboten.
Of course the common cold & flu are also versions of a Corona virus and people get infected and reinfected by both, flu jabs notwithstanding.
Question is, why should C-19 work any differently.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A study in hong kong has confirmed that a man in his 30s has been reinfected witg covid.
Putting a long term vaccine in doubt.
Could this be an isolated incident?"
No, our friends mum in her 79's was infected, no symptoms, declared clear and two weeks ago tested + again, no symptoms whatsoever.
She lives in sheltered housing and has been locked down for the best part of 6 months, contact verboten.
Of course the common cold & flu are also versions of a Corona virus and people get infected and reinfected by both, flu jabs notwithstanding.
Question is, why should C-19 work any differently.
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