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A man returned to the Isle of Man and broke the 2 week quarantine rule and has been sent to prison for 4 weeks.
Hope they quarantine him once he gets to the prison.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-53868709 |
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"Will he have to quarantine when he gets out? "
I’d assume he’ll be isolated and quarantined for his first 2 weeks. His own fault really, silly sod.
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"A man returned to the Isle of Man and broke the 2 week quarantine rule and has been sent to prison for 4 weeks.
Hope they quarantine him once he gets to the prison.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-53868709"
Good to see rules to protect us all being enforced. |
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"Will he have to quarantine when he gets out?
I’d assume he’ll be isolated and quarantined for his first 2 weeks. His own fault really, silly sod.
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He must have done it in spectacular fashion. I expect he will become a martyr in the eyes of the anti-mask, anti-vax, anti-virus cohort |
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"Will he have to quarantine when he gets out?
I’d assume he’ll be isolated and quarantined for his first 2 weeks. His own fault really, silly sod.
Accidentally deleted it the first time
He must have done it in spectacular fashion. I expect he will become a martyr in the eyes of the anti-mask, anti-vax, anti-virus cohort"
I understand people want to do things but to be some unaware of how you’re putting people at risk should be criminal if you ask me!
Honestly all that cohort deserve to spend a lot of time together in close proximity  |
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"Will he have to quarantine when he gets out?
I’d assume he’ll be isolated and quarantined for his first 2 weeks. His own fault really, silly sod.
Accidentally deleted it the first time
He must have done it in spectacular fashion. I expect he will become a martyr in the eyes of the anti-mask, anti-vax, anti-virus cohort"
He probably will, suppose they can comfort each other whilst everyone else is thinking yep what a Muppet.. |
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I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line. "
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells. "
By some people I mean those not following what they should. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells. "
I think we all need to do what we think is best. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"A man returned to the Isle of Man and broke the 2 week quarantine rule and has been sent to prison for 4 weeks.
Hope they quarantine him once he gets to the prison.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-53868709"
wish our goverment would take the same attitude |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best. "
OK so I come home from Spain. Been around people who may have had Covid, they coughed a lot. But what's best for me is going out shopping thdn to the pub. Is that fine in your opinion? I only have a sore throat right now. |
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"Will he have to quarantine when he gets out?
I’d assume he’ll be isolated and quarantined for his first 2 weeks. His own fault really, silly sod.
Accidentally deleted it the first time
He must have done it in spectacular fashion. I expect he will become a martyr in the eyes of the anti-mask, anti-vax, anti-virus cohort"
Indeed. Can't help feeling there will be more to this story. |
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"A man returned to the Isle of Man and broke the 2 week quarantine rule and has been sent to prison for 4 weeks.
Hope they quarantine him once he gets to the prison.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-53868709wish our goverment would take the same attitude"
It would be good
And also if it was criminalised...maybe fab could stop a lot of the stupid anti mask,anti vaxxer threads on here as they do with other illegal subjects  |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best. "
I'm not so sure about that. I don't trust some people's assessment of what's best. |
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"By the way, we are COVID free and have been for nearly 100 days. No social distancing or masks here. "
That's great news for you. I'm going to take an educated guess though that reducing the virus in the community didn't happen by chance. It came by following basic rules like quarantine, isolation, keep distance etc and people following them. |
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If you live in a community where everyone has towed the line to beat this virus and become covid free then 4 weeks in prison for breaking quarantine rules should be a minimum, achieving a covid free society comes at some cost to all involved.
Here in Guernsey some guy just received a 10k fine for breaking quarantine rules, totally fitting, why should people get away with a slap on the wrist for risking the populations freedom again, it’s not freedom as we all know it but it is better than going back to social distancing etc. Why can’t people just do what is asked of them until the world has a better idea of how to deal with this pandemic. |
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"If you live in a community where everyone has towed the line to beat this virus and become covid free then 4 weeks in prison for breaking quarantine rules should be a minimum, achieving a covid free society comes at some cost to all involved.
Here in Guernsey some guy just received a 10k fine for breaking quarantine rules, totally fitting, why should people get away with a slap on the wrist for risking the populations freedom again, it’s not freedom as we all know it but it is better than going back to social distancing etc. Why can’t people just do what is asked of them until the world has a better idea of how to deal with this pandemic. "
Well said. I wish we could have a bit _ore of that approach. I know that ultimately it comes down to what individuals choose to do. But if anybody had said a tory govt would have been so lax on law and order 5 years ago I wouldn't have believed them. |
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I think a heft fine rather than imprisonment, jails and taxpayers money are stretched enough. Mind you I watch a thing about prison on IOM... Its not exactly harsh. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
OK so I come home from Spain. Been around people who may have had Covid, they coughed a lot. But what's best for me is going out shopping thdn to the pub. Is that fine in your opinion? I only have a sore throat right now."
I just wrote "doing what's best" not "best for yourself". What you describe isn't fine in my opinion. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
I'm not so sure about that. I don't trust some people's assessment of what's best."
I think at the moment nobody knows who to trust and therein lies the problem.
I tend to stick with govt guidelines.
When it was suggested that the over 55s should isolate to allow the rest of the population to get back to "normal" quite a lot of people on the forum said they wouldn't do it. I guess everyone has their limits |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best. "
Asking the public to decide what they think is best will equate to fuck everyone else, I'm doing what suits me.
I'm starting to understand why politicians treat the general public with contempt and like 10 year olds, this virus has been an eye opener on how some folks find basic rules somehow difficult to comprehend.
Then again, not too shocked.  |
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"I think a heft fine rather than imprisonment, jails and taxpayers money are stretched enough. Mind you I watch a thing about prison on IOM... Its not exactly harsh. "
You’re right, boost the government coffers, not empty them further lol
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
Asking the public to decide what they think is best will equate to fuck everyone else, I'm doing what suits me.
I'm starting to understand why politicians treat the general public with contempt and like 10 year olds, this virus has been an eye opener on how some folks find basic rules somehow difficult to comprehend.
Then again, not too shocked. "
But we *are* the general public. |
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"I think a heft fine rather than imprisonment, jails and taxpayers money are stretched enough. Mind you I watch a thing about prison on IOM... Its not exactly harsh. "
That wasn’t really representative |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best. "
I'm not sure that's so.
Given the lack of education on the issue and the knock on effects it has for others, we all need to buck up.
This is less "I'll bareback on meets because I trust them" (personal risk) and more "I'm sure I can drive after however many pints" (risk to yourself and others).
High infection rates could mean school closures, people out of work, not to mention the health consequences.
I'm a strong, strong advocate of "to each their own". But this is public health, not "guys can wear makeup if they want to". |
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"A man returned to the Isle of Man and broke the 2 week quarantine rule and has been sent to prison for 4 weeks.
Hope they quarantine him once he gets to the prison.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-53868709wish our goverment would take the same attitude
It would be good
And also if it was criminalised...maybe fab could stop a lot of the stupid anti mask,anti vaxxer threads on here as they do with other illegal subjects "
Yes because stopping discussion is always a way to improve a situation. Don't conflate opinion with legality either, certainly not setting Fab owners as a judge. It is not illegal to say you don't agree with masks or the merits of a compulsory vaccine (right or wrong)
Often a surprise how communities that spent so many years without a voice seek to do it to others.  |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
I'm not sure that's so.
Given the lack of education on the issue and the knock on effects it has for others, we all need to buck up.
This is less "I'll bareback on meets because I trust them" (personal risk) and more "I'm sure I can drive after however many pints" (risk to yourself and others).
High infection rates could mean school closures, people out of work, not to mention the health consequences.
I'm a strong, strong advocate of "to each their own". But this is public health, not "guys can wear makeup if they want to". "
And we also have some good examples now of how much better it can be if people follow the simple rules... Which at the end of the day... Aren't the worst. I hadn't appreciated iom had been free for so long... It didn't happen by accident. Well done the Manx lot. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
I'm not sure that's so.
Given the lack of education on the issue and the knock on effects it has for others, we all need to buck up.
This is less "I'll bareback on meets because I trust them" (personal risk) and more "I'm sure I can drive after however many pints" (risk to yourself and others).
High infection rates could mean school closures, people out of work, not to mention the health consequences.
I'm a strong, strong advocate of "to each their own". But this is public health, not "guys can wear makeup if they want to". "
My opinion is that if we were given clear, unambiguous information by people we could trust the majority of us are sensible enough to take that information and act on it.
There will *always* be people who don't want to do what they're told regardless of the effect is has on wider society. I don't know how you deal with that.
Possibly my faith in human nature is misplaced. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
I'm not sure that's so.
Given the lack of education on the issue and the knock on effects it has for others, we all need to buck up.
This is less "I'll bareback on meets because I trust them" (personal risk) and more "I'm sure I can drive after however many pints" (risk to yourself and others).
High infection rates could mean school closures, people out of work, not to mention the health consequences.
I'm a strong, strong advocate of "to each their own". But this is public health, not "guys can wear makeup if they want to".
And we also have some good examples now of how much better it can be if people follow the simple rules... Which at the end of the day... Aren't the worst. I hadn't appreciated iom had been free for so long... It didn't happen by accident. Well done the Manx lot. "
They're on a small island, it's much easier.
But it means that we require much higher compliance here to get here.
We all just need to knuckle down and do it. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
Asking the public to decide what they think is best will equate to fuck everyone else, I'm doing what suits me.
I'm starting to understand why politicians treat the general public with contempt and like 10 year olds, this virus has been an eye opener on how some folks find basic rules somehow difficult to comprehend.
Then again, not too shocked.
But we *are* the general public. "
Exactly, obviously you and are exempt from any for of criticism. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
I'm not sure that's so.
Given the lack of education on the issue and the knock on effects it has for others, we all need to buck up.
This is less "I'll bareback on meets because I trust them" (personal risk) and more "I'm sure I can drive after however many pints" (risk to yourself and others).
High infection rates could mean school closures, people out of work, not to mention the health consequences.
I'm a strong, strong advocate of "to each their own". But this is public health, not "guys can wear makeup if they want to".
My opinion is that if we were given clear, unambiguous information by people we could trust the majority of us are sensible enough to take that information and act on it.
There will *always* be people who don't want to do what they're told regardless of the effect is has on wider society. I don't know how you deal with that.
Possibly my faith in human nature is misplaced. "
Oh I agree. Compliance early on was high. We did well.
I'm not saying that it's just the people. I think the government have failed spectacularly.
But tbh I don't trust the government to behave. I have no faith that they will. I do have faith in regular people. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
Asking the public to decide what they think is best will equate to fuck everyone else, I'm doing what suits me.
I'm starting to understand why politicians treat the general public with contempt and like 10 year olds, this virus has been an eye opener on how some folks find basic rules somehow difficult to comprehend.
Then again, not too shocked.
But we *are* the general public.
Exactly, obviously you and are exempt from any for of criticism. "
 obviously .
on a serious note I think that's part of the problem and it's going to cause serious divides as time goes on. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
I'm not sure that's so.
Given the lack of education on the issue and the knock on effects it has for others, we all need to buck up.
This is less "I'll bareback on meets because I trust them" (personal risk) and more "I'm sure I can drive after however many pints" (risk to yourself and others).
High infection rates could mean school closures, people out of work, not to mention the health consequences.
I'm a strong, strong advocate of "to each their own". But this is public health, not "guys can wear makeup if they want to".
And we also have some good examples now of how much better it can be if people follow the simple rules... Which at the end of the day... Aren't the worst. I hadn't appreciated iom had been free for so long... It didn't happen by accident. Well done the Manx lot.
They're on a small island, it's much easier.
But it means that we require much higher compliance here to get here.
We all just need to knuckle down and do it."
Agree with that... Ish... But aren't we also on an island.? Perfect for isolating and quarantining. A relatively small island too. I know very little about the iom but I'd guess they share a lot more common purpose than our fractured society does. And according to this thread, have been better at adhering to common sense rules to limit the spread of the virus..
And are reaping the benefits of that now.. |
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Agree with that... Ish... But aren't we also on an island.? Perfect for isolating and quarantining. A relatively small island too. I know very little about the iom but I'd guess they share a lot more common purpose than our fractured society does. And according to this thread, have been better at adhering to common sense rules to limit the spread of the virus..
And are reaping the benefits of that now.. "
We are, but the bigger the community the more non compliance and thus risk we have.
And IOM probably have more of a sense of being one community, and are more likely to get compliance through solidarity. On the mainland, particularly after Cummings, that's going to be much harder. |
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One of our neighbours was given a first and final warning. He took the dog for a walk but they were doing a surveillance operation on the people who arrived back in a flight from the canaries and he got unlucky, he got a tap on the shoulder as he went to approach his front door. |
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"One of our neighbours was given a first and final warning. He took the dog for a walk but they were doing a surveillance operation on the people who arrived back in a flight from the canaries and he got unlucky, he got a tap on the shoulder as he went to approach his front door."
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
Asking the public to decide what they think is best will equate to fuck everyone else, I'm doing what suits me.
I'm starting to understand why politicians treat the general public with contempt and like 10 year olds, this virus has been an eye opener on how some folks find basic rules somehow difficult to comprehend.
Then again, not too shocked.
But we *are* the general public.
Exactly, obviously you and are exempt from any for of criticism. "
If only people meant "personal responsibility" when they said "personal responsibility". Not "I'll do what I want". |
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From what I've observed we're all falling in to a spiral of blame. It comes from the top where nobody is prepared to be accountable, the blame is placed squarely on the shoulders of anybody but those actually responsible. |
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"From what I've observed we're all falling in to a spiral of blame. It comes from the top where nobody is prepared to be accountable, the blame is placed squarely on the shoulders of anybody but those actually responsible. "
Yes.
I mostly blame the government. Like 90%. And that isn't going to change.
I talk about us bucking up as individuals because I think we're capable of it. I'll focus my attention on the people I believe to be doing the best they can, not the corrupt lazy people in office. |
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I really like the Guernsey/Isle of Man model but could it work here ? Well probably not because we cannot close the Irish border and if Dominic Cummings and Co. won't comply why should anyone else ? |
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"A divided population is much easier to control. "
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will. |
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will. "
And we end up attacking each other not focusing on the government.
I'm guilty of it, but I think "hey pub" dude is easier to convince than "ooh disaster let's make a quick buck" |
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will. "
Yes, I do. We're all being encouraged to point a finger. Look how quickly "clap for carers" became something that everyone did unless you wanted to be publicly shamed on Facebook. The best way to get a population to tow the line is to unite them against a common enemy or enemies. Currently they are the "clandestine threat" and the "non complying to covid regs people". |
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will.
And we end up attacking each other not focusing on the government.
I'm guilty of it, but I think "hey pub" dude is easier to convince than "ooh disaster let's make a quick buck""
Yep! |
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will.
Yes, I do. We're all being encouraged to point a finger. Look how quickly "clap for carers" became something that everyone did unless you wanted to be publicly shamed on Facebook. The best way to get a population to tow the line is to unite them against a common enemy or enemies. Currently they are the "clandestine threat" and the "non complying to covid regs people". "
Oh I agree but the key phrase you used is unite them... Not divide them against a common enemy. I do agree with the maxim.. Divide and conquer... But in this case I'm not entirely sure what anyone is trying to conquer and I certainly don't think we as a nation are any easier to govern now, than we were 6 months ago by being as divided and disparate as we are. Iom... Easier to govern? Shared purpose, and a population that does what is needed of it... (at least from what little I know) |
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will.
Yes, I do. We're all being encouraged to point a finger. Look how quickly "clap for carers" became something that everyone did unless you wanted to be publicly shamed on Facebook. The best way to get a population to tow the line is to unite them against a common enemy or enemies. Currently they are the "clandestine threat" and the "non complying to covid regs people".
Oh I agree but the key phrase you used is unite them... Not divide them against a common enemy. I do agree with the maxim.. Divide and conquer... But in this case I'm not entirely sure what anyone is trying to conquer and I certainly don't think we as a nation are any easier to govern now, than we were 6 months ago by being as divided and disparate as we are. Iom... Easier to govern? Shared purpose, and a population that does what is needed of it... (at least from what little I know) "
The government are really screwing around with how they're handling this, handing out contracts to their mates etc.
And we're (me included) busy with "wear the mask"/ "but communism" |
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"we have had a few of them sent to prison for it and have hefty fines too.
one guy was bored and was posting onto face book.
reported by members of the public to the police"
All depends who you are. The rich and famous get away with it. |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
OK so I come home from Spain. Been around people who may have had Covid, they coughed a lot. But what's best for me is going out shopping thdn to the pub. Is that fine in your opinion? I only have a sore throat right now."
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By *mmabluTV/TS
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will.
And we end up attacking each other not focusing on the government.
I'm guilty of it, but I think "hey pub" dude is easier to convince than "ooh disaster let's make a quick buck"
Yep! "
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
Asking the public to decide what they think is best will equate to fuck everyone else, I'm doing what suits me.
I'm starting to understand why politicians treat the general public with contempt and like 10 year olds, this virus has been an eye opener on how some folks find basic rules somehow difficult to comprehend.
Then again, not too shocked. "
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will.
And we end up attacking each other not focusing on the government.
I'm guilty of it, but I think "hey pub" dude is easier to convince than "ooh disaster let's make a quick buck"
Yep! Nobody is controling us the government is liberal and soft"
Exactly its astonishing how Liberal this tory government have become.... So Scared of pissing anyone off they have receded up their own backsides. Strong leadership is required not gifts of free money and that horseshit "we are listening to communities" I want to get it under control quickly so we can move on... Not fanny around like this for another two years having squabbles about a frigging mask or the day that Rich bloke broke quarantine and its all someone else's fault. |
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You think your bad over there . Our morans in government decided to attend a golf tournament . Minister of agriculture has resigned .another minister also resigned .chief judge in the country .senators .big business men .all there
And on top of that one of our eu ministers flies home to a quarantined area and also travels to it .that's after he been golfing in Holland. .one rule for them one rule for the working peasants.  |
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"I think people need to make their own rusk assessments and act accordingly. I see so many examples of people ignoring guidelines, especially where social distancing is concerned. I suspect we will see a few fines and imprisonments as an example to the rest of us to tow the line.
Own risk assessments will go along the lines of... I'm fine so I'll go to the pub tonight my mates house. Some people are just missing brain cells.
I think we all need to do what we think is best.
OK so I come home from Spain. Been around people who may have had Covid, they coughed a lot. But what's best for me is going out shopping thdn to the pub. Is that fine in your opinion? I only have a sore throat right now.Quarentine and get tested no excuse,if you do go shopping you deserve to go to prison"
Prison ! |
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will.
Yes, I do. We're all being encouraged to point a finger. Look how quickly "clap for carers" became something that everyone did unless you wanted to be publicly shamed on Facebook. The best way to get a population to tow the line is to unite them against a common enemy or enemies. Currently they are the "clandestine threat" and the "non complying to covid regs people".
Oh I agree but the key phrase you used is unite them... Not divide them against a common enemy. I do agree with the maxim.. Divide and conquer... But in this case I'm not entirely sure what anyone is trying to conquer and I certainly don't think we as a nation are any easier to govern now, than we were 6 months ago by being as divided and disparate as we are. Iom... Easier to govern? Shared purpose, and a population that does what is needed of it... (at least from what little I know) "
Yes I see the contradiction in what I wrote. Is it possible to unite one section of society in order to promote division? I think so.
In my opinion we're easier to govern now. The majority are complying without question and actively opposing people who do question.
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Whilst official messages got somewhat foggier than at the start, the key messages about what we must do to help to protect each other are fairly simple.
Keep social distancing from others.
Wear masks in most encloses places, like shops.
Quarantine after suspected infection or returning from a country with a 2 weeks quarantine.
Test early, if suspected of getting the infection.
Washing hands when potentially exposed and frequently.
Being amongst the easy to grasp guidelines.
We have to trust each other and be earning others trust too. This is mostly down to self-control. We've all given a lot, so it's pointlessly stupid throwing the lockdown results down the drain for short term gain.
As younger people get the virus, they may not be as severely ill as the older people who got it earlier but they are likely to help to pass it on to others who aren't as strong and healthy. |
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Although it was selfish and stupid to break quarantine, I'm unsure what prison will do; prison is meant to rehabilitate - this just seems like a punishment to deter others.
We must remember that people avoid prison for *far* more serious crimes, I think a large fine, funding the very NHS he was jeopardising, would have been for more appropriate. |
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"Although it was selfish and stupid to break quarantine, I'm unsure what prison will do; prison is meant to rehabilitate - this just seems like a punishment to deter others.
We must remember that people avoid prison for *far* more serious crimes, I think a large fine, funding the very NHS he was jeopardising, would have been for more appropriate."
I'm sure it will rehabilitate him.
He will serve his prison sentence and, hopefully, will not end up back there again. |
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It's vital they bang these bell ends up. Our main hospital only has a few ITU beds & couldn't cope like a big uk city, it's like a small town facility.
I have heard a rumour of someone using the IOM to Guernsey covid free travel airbridge, then flying on to Spain to check their holiday villa & coming back again via the reverse route & bypassing the regulations. If whoever that was brought the virus back, they could have caused deaths & this is why prison is required. Because it's always everybody else & not you who who needs to comply with the rules......selfish tossers. |
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"Although it was selfish and stupid to break quarantine, I'm unsure what prison will do; prison is meant to rehabilitate - this just seems like a punishment to deter others.
We must remember that people avoid prison for *far* more serious crimes, I think a large fine, funding the very NHS he was jeopardising, would have been for more appropriate.
I'm sure it will rehabilitate him.
He will serve his prison sentence and, hopefully, will not end up back there again."
Perhaps you're right mate. Or, perhaps they've created a disdain and bitterness within him that will create far more problems in the long run.
(To re-affirm, he's a total cock and I agree with the prison sentence - I just like to play devils advocate sometimes  ) |
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"Although it was selfish and stupid to break quarantine, I'm unsure what prison will do; prison is meant to rehabilitate - this just seems like a punishment to deter others.
We must remember that people avoid prison for *far* more serious crimes, I think a large fine, funding the very NHS he was jeopardising, would have been for more appropriate.
I'm sure it will rehabilitate him.
He will serve his prison sentence and, hopefully, will not end up back there again.
Perhaps you're right mate. Or, perhaps they've created a disdain and bitterness within him that will create far more problems in the long run.
(To re-affirm, he's a total cock and I agree with the prison sentence - I just like to play devils advocate sometimes )"
Well you can only warn people a few times and then you have to either 'put up or shut up'.
If he's a total cock I guess there weren't really many options to choose from.
His rehabilitation is his choice, he can either grow up and adhere to the law, or he can remain a total cock and go back inside. |
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"It's vital they bang these bell ends up. Our main hospital only has a few ITU beds & couldn't cope like a big uk city, it's like a small town facility.
I have heard a rumour of someone using the IOM to Guernsey covid free travel airbridge, then flying on to Spain to check their holiday villa & coming back again via the reverse route & bypassing the regulations. If whoever that was brought the virus back, they could have caused deaths & this is why prison is required. Because it's always everybody else & not you who who needs to comply with the rules......selfish tossers. "
Totally agree.
What people think of laws is totally immaterial and we don't get to pick and choose which laws we obey. |
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will.
Yes, I do. We're all being encouraged to point a finger. Look how quickly "clap for carers" became something that everyone did unless you wanted to be publicly shamed on Facebook. The best way to get a population to tow the line is to unite them against a common enemy or enemies. Currently they are the "clandestine threat" and the "non complying to covid regs people".
Oh I agree but the key phrase you used is unite them... Not divide them against a common enemy. I do agree with the maxim.. Divide and conquer... But in this case I'm not entirely sure what anyone is trying to conquer and I certainly don't think we as a nation are any easier to govern now, than we were 6 months ago by being as divided and disparate as we are. Iom... Easier to govern? Shared purpose, and a population that does what is needed of it... (at least from what little I know)
Yes I see the contradiction in what I wrote. Is it possible to unite one section of society in order to promote division? I think so.
In my opinion we're easier to govern now. The majority are complying without question and actively opposing people who do question.
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What's to question? It is your opinion that people are complying with being asked to Stop or slow down the spread of the virus, look after each other.... Not exactly asking people to chop off their arms are we? |
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"You think your bad over there . Our morans in government decided to attend a golf tournament . Minister of agriculture has resigned .another minister also resigned .chief judge in the country .senators .big business men .all there
And on top of that one of our eu ministers flies home to a quarantined area and also travels to it .that's after he been golfing in Holland. .one rule for them one rule for the working peasants. "
Most people travelling for work are exempt,what's the issue.
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Sad really
He was an old guy, it seems a bit excessive, by the same measure folks were more than happy for people to go out en mass for the BLM protests, these people have not been charged
Seems covid stopped for BLM and Antifa lol
But for the rest of the population, HUGE risk
Inconsistent attitude towards the virus,its either super contagious and deadly or it isn't, people need to stop adjusting their views and stick to one.
It can't be both at the times it suits your narrative.
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"And an irish MEP who retutnex from Brussels and attended a function with 80 othere both present and former ministers and nothin happens to him what an injust society "
Different country with different legislation.. |
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"Sad really
He was an old guy, it seems a bit excessive, by the same measure folks were more than happy for people to go out en mass for the BLM protests, these people have not been charged
Seems covid stopped for BLM and Antifa lol
But for the rest of the population, HUGE risk
Inconsistent attitude towards the virus,its either super contagious and deadly or it isn't, people need to stop adjusting their views and stick to one.
It can't be both at the times it suits your narrative.
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So it's okay for older people to break the law and go unpunished?
Protesters weren't returning from a country with a higher infection rate and neither were they required by law to quarantine... |
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"Sad really
He was an old guy, it seems a bit excessive, by the same measure folks were more than happy for people to go out en mass for the BLM protests, these people have not been charged
Seems covid stopped for BLM and Antifa lol
But for the rest of the population, HUGE risk
Inconsistent attitude towards the virus,its either super contagious and deadly or it isn't, people need to stop adjusting their views and stick to one.
It can't be both at the times it suits your narrative.
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The guy was blatantly breaking the rules on more than one occasion |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will.
And we end up attacking each other not focusing on the government.
I'm guilty of it, but I think "hey pub" dude is easier to convince than "ooh disaster let's make a quick buck"
Yep! Nobody is controling us the government is liberal and soft
Exactly its astonishing how Liberal this tory government have become.... So Scared of pissing anyone off they have receded up their own backsides. Strong leadership is required not gifts of free money and that horseshit "we are listening to communities" I want to get it under control quickly so we can move on... Not fanny around like this for another two years having squabbles about a frigging mask or the day that Rich bloke broke quarantine and its all someone else's fault. "
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will.
And we end up attacking each other not focusing on the government.
I'm guilty of it, but I think "hey pub" dude is easier to convince than "ooh disaster let's make a quick buck"
Yep! Nobody is controling us the government is liberal and soft
Exactly its astonishing how Liberal this tory government have become.... So Scared of pissing anyone off they have receded up their own backsides. Strong leadership is required not gifts of free money and that horseshit "we are listening to communities" I want to get it under control quickly so we can move on... Not fanny around like this for another two years having squabbles about a frigging mask or the day that Rich bloke broke quarantine and its all someone else's fault. "
Liberal is the last word of use to describe this gmnt. |
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"A divided population is much easier to control.
Do you think our population is easier to control? I think at time "we" are anarchic... Nobody is forcing anyone to hold raves and break quarantine... They are all personal choices that people are making... With free will.
And we end up attacking each other not focusing on the government.
I'm guilty of it, but I think "hey pub" dude is easier to convince than "ooh disaster let's make a quick buck"
Yep! Nobody is controling us the government is liberal and soft
Exactly its astonishing how Liberal this tory government have become.... So Scared of pissing anyone off they have receded up their own backsides. Strong leadership is required not gifts of free money and that horseshit "we are listening to communities" I want to get it under control quickly so we can move on... Not fanny around like this for another two years having squabbles about a frigging mask or the day that Rich bloke broke quarantine and its all someone else's fault.
Liberal is the last word of use to describe this gmnt."
Haha, yeah, I can think of many words to describe them, Liberal ain't one of them... |
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Protesters weren't returning from a country with a higher infection rate and neither were they required by law to quarantine... "
Can you guarantee this is the case for every single protester?
Again you post is proof of inconsistent thought and standards applied to these 2 cases.
Either BOTH are in the wrong or they are not.
Your clearly favouring one of these cases.
I have only suggested people breaking the rules should be treated the same, evenly and fairly. Not one rule for some rule breakers and another for others. |
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