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"after a spanish holiday could i get tested and if the result is negative go back to work ????
tia"
No, because it takes at up to 5 days for the virus to give a positive result (you could catch it on the plane back for instance), and some people are asymptomatic, and could be spreading it all over the place believing themselves to be fine. It really amazes me that anyone would currently be considering an unnecessary trip abroad atm |
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over a year ago
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"I think the sweeney may have bigger fish to fry, don't lose any sleep over it  "
No but his employers and workmates might lose sleep over it if they have to shut down.  |
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"I think the sweeney may have bigger fish to fry, don't lose any sleep over it
No but his employers and workmates might lose sleep over it if they have to shut down. "
Think people overlook this bit: or simply don't care.
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I think they are looking at testing at the airport and then a few days later. To stop people having to quarantine.
I know if you have symptoms and get a test that if its negative you can stop isolating... so would assume its the same with holidays |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"I think the sweeney may have bigger fish to fry, don't lose any sleep over it
No but his employers and workmates might lose sleep over it if they have to shut down. "
They might not even care. I saw someone put MR Magoo and contact number 999 on a government form other day and they just laughed and said that ones quite common , it’s all just a to look like we’re doing the right thing no one does anything with the info, they do t know what to do anyway |
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By *S_CoupleCouple
over a year ago
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"i fly on tuesday.
i dont really want to quarantine . id happily accept a refund.
i can work from home but rather not.
im not looking forward to hols "
Give it 24-48 hours mate. Sure another Spain announcement will be out soon. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think the sweeney may have bigger fish to fry, don't lose any sleep over it
No but his employers and workmates might lose sleep over it if they have to shut down.
They might not even care. I saw someone put MR Magoo and contact number 999 on a government form other day and they just laughed and said that ones quite common , it’s all just a to look like we’re doing the right thing no one does anything with the info, they do t know what to do anyway "
Which doesn’t change the fact if he’s infected and goes into work and gives it to the other workers. The employers now have to close down and his workmates are on 2 weeks statutory sick pay. |
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"I think the sweeney may have bigger fish to fry, don't lose any sleep over it
No but his employers and workmates might lose sleep over it if they have to shut down.
They might not even care. I saw someone put MR Magoo and contact number 999 on a government form other day and they just laughed and said that ones quite common , it’s all just a to look like we’re doing the right thing no one does anything with the info, they do t know what to do anyway "
People are disgraceful. |
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"The UK Government says only essential travel to Spain is permitted at present"
You're somewhat correct, but that doesn't mean a blind but of difference for a number of airlines.
Most will not cancel an outstanding booking (unless there's other circumstances, i.e. They've reduced their services) as frankly that government statement is more of a recommendation than a rule.
Cancelling and claiming is an option in some cases.
As for the holiday itself, depends what's been booked and the companies policies on cancellations/rescheduling etc.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just ring thing up. Worst case scenario which may be unlikely is while you are there the government ban travel from Spain. You'll have to stay home 14 days when you are back - or hopefully you will respect the rules. |
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From a Whitehall source.
There will be spot checks at home addresses using flight manifests and number plate recognition on ferries to check isolation/quarantine compliance.
Thinking is a few early fines at £1,000 each and some naming and shaming will encourage greater compliance. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"From a Whitehall source.
There will be spot checks at home addresses using flight manifests and number plate recognition on ferries to check isolation/quarantine compliance.
Thinking is a few early fines at £1,000 each and some naming and shaming will encourage greater compliance."
It will never happen. They can't even enforce a the other 'rules'. |
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"after a spanish holiday could i get tested and if the result is negative go back to work ????
tia
No, because it takes at up to 5 days for the virus to give a positive result (you could catch it on the plane back for instance), and some people are asymptomatic, and could be spreading it all over the place believing themselves to be fine. It really amazes me that anyone would currently be considering an unnecessary trip abroad atm"
So why do people have to quarantine for two weeks? Why not quarantine for 5 days and then get tested? |
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By *J647Couple
over a year ago
Daventry |
Wife's company have told all of them anyone traveling abroad, & have to quarantine it will be unpaid leave, any breach will be gross misconduct & instant dismissal, is your job worth trying to bypass quarantine rules |
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"From a Whitehall source.
There will be spot checks at home addresses using flight manifests and number plate recognition on ferries to check isolation/quarantine compliance.
Thinking is a few early fines at £1,000 each and some naming and shaming will encourage greater compliance."
Oh yeah I’m sure this will happen |
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"From a Whitehall source.
There will be spot checks at home addresses using flight manifests and number plate recognition on ferries to check isolation/quarantine compliance.
Thinking is a few early fines at £1,000 each and some naming and shaming will encourage greater compliance.
Oh yeah I’m sure this will happen "
It’s Border Force who are carrying out the checks and they are taking it quite seriously. Don’t be fooled into thinking they are not enforcing quarantine, they very much are. By calling the numbers and visiting homes of those who have travelled! The police are working alongside when required but in the main it is not just down to the “sweeney”. ( which incidentally refers to the flying squad whom I’m sure are not getting involved )
Completing the form falsely also carries a fine and they are actively using passenger manifests to figure out who does this!
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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago
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"Easier and safer to just stay at home surely"
Agreed; I do not understand the need to fly off for a holiday in the current circumstances.
Admittedly parts of the UK may be more expensive than normal, but is it worth the extra hassle to go elsewhere? There are plenty of hotspots to visit here... |
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"Easier and safer to just stay at home surely
Agreed; I do not understand the need to fly off for a holiday in the current circumstances.
Admittedly parts of the UK may be more expensive than normal, but is it worth the extra hassle to go elsewhere? There are plenty of hotspots to visit here..."
Oldham nice this time of year... And quite the hot-spot apparently and no quarantine required. |
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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago
Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria |
"that is correct hun
Holidays aren't essential travel..."
All travel isn’t a holiday though, some people have work abroad, businesses or their family are there, some having lost relatives. We have a house in Spain and not been able to go since December and are desperate to get out there for various reasons but have had every flight cancelled the last 5 months and now the quarantine business obviously puts another stop to it. I think I would be more likely to catch covid in the UK than Spain as where we are they have hardly even affected the whole 6 months where as here there’s an abundance of people who have total disregard to how they should be keeping themselves and others safe. |
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"that is correct hun
Holidays aren't essential travel...
All travel isn’t a holiday though, some people have work abroad, businesses or their family are there, some having lost relatives. We have a house in Spain and not been able to go since December and are desperate to get out there for various reasons but have had every flight cancelled the last 5 months and now the quarantine business obviously puts another stop to it. I think I would be more likely to catch covid in the UK than Spain as where we are they have hardly even affected the whole 6 months where as here there’s an abundance of people who have total disregard to how they should be keeping themselves and others safe. "
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Is it just me and over thinking things, but are we being forced to stay and holiday in the UK, seems to me that holiday favourite destinations are gradually being added to the 14 day quarantine list, Portugal, Spain, so people get their holidays cancelled and make alternative arrangements to say Greece, Croatia, Turkey oh and then the UK government see this then add them to the list what next, Italy???
If it was not so expensive to holiday in the UK then I for one would gladly spend my holiday in the UK, i.e. buy a pint of beer in the UK while on holiday £4/£5 but a beer in Spain 2 euro some places cheaper, ok their is the UK weather but I guess that's out of the UK governments hands OR IS IT, me personally think its about controlling us |
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"Is it just me and over thinking things, but are we being forced to stay and holiday in the UK, seems to me that holiday favourite destinations are gradually being added to the 14 day quarantine list, Portugal, Spain, so people get their holidays cancelled and make alternative arrangements to say Greece, Croatia, Turkey oh and then the UK government see this then add them to the list what next, Italy???
If it was not so expensive to holiday in the UK then I for one would gladly spend my holiday in the UK, i.e. buy a pint of beer in the UK while on holiday £4/£5 but a beer in Spain 2 euro some places cheaper, ok their is the UK weather but I guess that's out of the UK governments hands OR IS IT, me personally think its about controlling us "
Great logic, spend a few grand to save €3 on a pint. Are you an alcoholic |
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"that is correct hun
Holidays aren't essential travel...
All travel isn’t a holiday though, some people have work abroad, businesses or their family are there, some having lost relatives. We have a house in Spain and not been able to go since December and are desperate to get out there for various reasons but have had every flight cancelled the last 5 months and now the quarantine business obviously puts another stop to it. I think I would be more likely to catch covid in the UK than Spain as where we are they have hardly even affected the whole 6 months where as here there’s an abundance of people who have total disregard to how they should be keeping themselves and others safe. "
I didn't say "no one should travel because holidays aren't essential."
There are or will be reasons why people need to travel. Obviously. I just don't see why a holiday falls under essential travel.
And regardless of the risk here, there, or somewhere else, the lowest risk thing I can do for myself or anyone else is not travel. |
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"From a Whitehall source.
There will be spot checks at home addresses using flight manifests and number plate recognition on ferries to check isolation/quarantine compliance.
Thinking is a few early fines at £1,000 each and some naming and shaming will encourage greater compliance.
Oh yeah I’m sure this will happen
It’s Border Force who are carrying out the checks and they are taking it quite seriously. Don’t be fooled into thinking they are not enforcing quarantine, they very much are. By calling the numbers and visiting homes of those who have travelled! The police are working alongside when required but in the main it is not just down to the “sweeney”. ( which incidentally refers to the flying squad whom I’m sure are not getting involved )
Completing the form falsely also carries a fine and they are actively using passenger manifests to figure out who does this!
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who didn't even check any forms in Manchester  |
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We arrived back in Australia 3 days ago as I still have a business Here we are now locked in a hotel room for 14 days not allowed out for any reason the police are guarding each level of the hotel and lifts the windows don’t open food is delivered to the room 3 times a day we Been tested twice so far we tested again on the 12 day and allowed to leave on the 14 day if negative again
Then we have a $4000 bill to pay for our stay
How would the British like that After they have there holiday
If it saves one life and stops the spread then isn’t it worth it ?
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"We arrived back in Australia 3 days ago as I still have a business Here we are now locked in a hotel room for 14 days not allowed out for any reason the police are guarding each level of the hotel and lifts the windows don’t open food is delivered to the room 3 times a day we Been tested twice so far we tested again on the 12 day and allowed to leave on the 14 day if negative again
Then we have a $4000 bill to pay for our stay
How would the British like that After they have there holiday
If it saves one life and stops the spread then isn’t it worth it ?
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You're lucky to be in a country that takes the virus seriously. |
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"We arrived back in Australia 3 days ago as I still have a business Here we are now locked in a hotel room for 14 days not allowed out for any reason the police are guarding each level of the hotel and lifts the windows don’t open food is delivered to the room 3 times a day we Been tested twice so far we tested again on the 12 day and allowed to leave on the 14 day if negative again
Then we have a $4000 bill to pay for our stay
How would the British like that After they have there holiday
If it saves one life and stops the spread then isn’t it worth it ?
You're lucky to be in a country that takes the virus seriously. "
We know ?? |
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"We arrived back in Australia 3 days ago as I still have a business Here we are now locked in a hotel room for 14 days not allowed out for any reason the police are guarding each level of the hotel and lifts the windows don’t open food is delivered to the room 3 times a day we Been tested twice so far we tested again on the 12 day and allowed to leave on the 14 day if negative again
Then we have a $4000 bill to pay for our stay
How would the British like that After they have there holiday
If it saves one life and stops the spread then isn’t it worth it ?
You're lucky to be in a country that takes the virus seriously.
We know ??"
Australia has just ordered 25 million doses of Chaddox. They will probably be Covid-19 free while we are still throwing our toys out the cot. |
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"We arrived back in Australia 3 days ago as I still have a business Here we are now locked in a hotel room for 14 days not allowed out for any reason the police are guarding each level of the hotel and lifts the windows don’t open food is delivered to the room 3 times a day we Been tested twice so far we tested again on the 12 day and allowed to leave on the 14 day if negative again
Then we have a $4000 bill to pay for our stay
How would the British like that After they have there holiday
If it saves one life and stops the spread then isn’t it worth it ?
You're lucky to be in a country that takes the virus seriously.
We know ??
Australia has just ordered 25 million doses of Chaddox. They will probably be Covid-19 free while we are still throwing our toys out the cot."
When ScoMo looks like a good leader, we're all screwed |
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"We arrived back in Australia 3 days ago as I still have a business Here we are now locked in a hotel room for 14 days not allowed out for any reason the police are guarding each level of the hotel and lifts the windows don’t open food is delivered to the room 3 times a day we Been tested twice so far we tested again on the 12 day and allowed to leave on the 14 day if negative again
Then we have a $4000 bill to pay for our stay
How would the British like that After they have there holiday
If it saves one life and stops the spread then isn’t it worth it ?
You're lucky to be in a country that takes the virus seriously.
We know ??
Australia has just ordered 25 million doses of Chaddox. They will probably be Covid-19 free while we are still throwing our toys out the cot."
Yes mandatory vaccination for all Australia I think if you want to travel in future |
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We should have planned and organised better. Many countries have much superior systems to the UK. It makes me fear how bad we could get as the country isolates itself more. Tests on arrival and repeatedly over following days, with a shorter quarantine, is far better for the economy and people.
Months after other countries, we're going to start trialling it, charging people many more times what other countries are charging. If there's 1 thing you can rely on in the uk, it's to get a nice earner for mates running businesses.
It helps everyone if we have a stronger tourist industry and also if people have decent health choices and are able to work and earn if possible. |
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"We should have planned and organised better. Many countries have much superior systems to the UK. It makes me fear how bad we could get as the country isolates itself more. Tests on arrival and repeatedly over following days, with a shorter quarantine, is far better for the economy and people.
Cost me $6000 for flights $1000 for fit to fly cert and $4000 for quarantine so far
That’s over £5000 to get back to Oz sofar
Months after other countries, we're going to start trialling it, charging people many more times what other countries are charging. If there's 1 thing you can rely on in the uk, it's to get a nice earner for mates running businesses.
It helps everyone if we have a stronger tourist industry and also if people have decent health choices and are able to work and earn if possible. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wife's company have told all of them anyone traveling abroad, & have to quarantine it will be unpaid leave, any breach will be gross misconduct & instant dismissal, is your job worth trying to bypass quarantine rules"
the OP already said his employer said he can work from home |
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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago
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Be fucked should the government pay and ultimately that is all tax payers, anyone who has acted grossly irresponsibly by going abroad on holiday at the moment should foot the bill themselves and if they infect anyone with covid they should be locked up |
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I’m off out the country in November. I know the risks but where I’m going has impressively dealt with Covid and is welcoming people with open arms.
If it becomes a quarantine destination I will simply do my bit and work from home when I come back. That’s the chance you take. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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If people choose to travel when advised not to, they know they have to quarantine on their return. It's unfortunate if the rules change whilst you are away, but we should all know the risks of that potentially happening. |
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"If people choose to travel when advised not to, they know they have to quarantine on their return. It's unfortunate if the rules change whilst you are away, but we should all know the risks of that potentially happening."
I'm not sure why we have to be told that we shouldn't be travelling during an international health crisis |
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"If people choose to travel when advised not to, they know they have to quarantine on their return. It's unfortunate if the rules change whilst you are away, but we should all know the risks of that potentially happening.
I'm not sure why we have to be told that we shouldn't be travelling during an international health crisis "
... Obviously there are reasons why you have to.
Holiday is not one of them. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"If people choose to travel when advised not to, they know they have to quarantine on their return. It's unfortunate if the rules change whilst you are away, but we should all know the risks of that potentially happening.
I'm not sure why we have to be told that we shouldn't be travelling during an international health crisis "
No me neither, makes no sense.
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"If people choose to travel when advised not to, they know they have to quarantine on their return. It's unfortunate if the rules change whilst you are away, but we should all know the risks of that potentially happening.
I'm not sure why we have to be told that we shouldn't be travelling during an international health crisis
... Obviously there are reasons why you have to.
Holiday is not one of them."
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Abta only just decided to stick up for customers as some online travel agents, on the beach and love holidays are refusing refunds if the flight goes ahead.
If a family has paid out thousands but are being forced to travel as the flights are not cancelled how is that fair? On the beach actually stated it's advice not law so ignore the fco 
It's an awful situation without clear legislation so before telling people to just stay in England, are you prepared to repay them thousands? |
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Yeah true...I've arrived from Portugal and been 2 weeks at home..after 2 weeks of holiday plus we had to fill a form online or we weren't aloud to the country. |
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"Yeah true...I've arrived from Portugal and been 2 weeks at home..after 2 weeks of holiday plus we had to fill a form online or we weren't aloud to the country. "
That's unlucky because Portugal is to be taken off the list. |
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"Yeah true...I've arrived from Portugal and been 2 weeks at home..after 2 weeks of holiday plus we had to fill a form online or we weren't aloud to the country.
That's unlucky because Portugal is to be taken off the list. "
Rub the salt in |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Yeh the government might have said essential travel only but if the airlines are still flying out there , you have 2 options you go on your holidays or YOU loose your money if they don’t cancel it , I’m lucky my boss is going to pay me for my two weeks if I have to quarantine. But I’m sure the rules will change soon again |
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"Yeah true...I've arrived from Portugal and been 2 weeks at home..after 2 weeks of holiday plus we had to fill a form online or we weren't aloud to the country.
That's unlucky because Portugal is to be taken off the list. "
I didn't mind mate and yeah I seen on tv ..well all I did was follow the rules...better safe than sorry. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Yeah true...I've arrived from Portugal and been 2 weeks at home..after 2 weeks of holiday plus we had to fill a form online or we weren't aloud to the country.
That's unlucky because Portugal is to be taken off the list. I didn't mind mate and yeah I seen on tv ..well all I did was follow the rules...better safe than sorry."
Well done you |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah true...I've arrived from Portugal and been 2 weeks at home..after 2 weeks of holiday plus we had to fill a form online or we weren't aloud to the country.
That's unlucky because Portugal is to be taken off the list. I didn't mind mate and yeah I seen on tv ..well all I did was follow the rules...better safe than sorry."
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