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"How many of you wonderfull fabbers think . This virus is getting very boring. Nothing is changing, it as here. We can talk about it forever but we do not know anything except what we are told. Again NOTHING IS CHANGING. ??????:" Oh really? So the death rate hasn't gone down? People dying is getting boring? | |||
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"Where are these people who are dying? Just out of interest " Six feet under, I'd imagine. Did you expect to see corpses dumped in the street, piled on carts and wheeled through the street? It's 2020, not 1320. | |||
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"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ?" I don't know anyone who has died, but definitely had it myself. I tested positive for antibodies and had a mild set of symptoms in late March/early April. Just because you don't know a death case personally doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Have you ever met someone with TB? Diphtheria? Lassa fever? West Nile virus? Bubonic plague? All these diseases exist, but most people have never witnessed them, never met anyone who had them and certainly don't know anyone who died of them. Does that mean they don't exist either? | |||
"People die. Fact of life " It’s a good job no people died before March 2020..... imagine the fuss that would have been created!!  | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ?" I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. " I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. " Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die  
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard. | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. " Society hasn't been destroyed. We arent in a walking dead situation just yet. | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ?" Just because you dont anyone affected doesmt mean it does not exist. | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard. "No I don’t think it’s dramatic. Tell me how “limiting contact with others and wearing a mask“ (your own words!) does not effect on society and how we behave towards one another? | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Society hasn't been destroyed. We arent in a walking dead situation just yet." Lol I see the zombies walking around Tesco - I think we are pretty close tbh | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. " I must have slept through that part. | |||
"People die. Fact of life " Fully agree | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard.
No I don’t think it’s dramatic. Tell me how “limiting contact with others and wearing a mask“ (your own words!) does not effect on society and how we behave towards one another? "You didn't say it has an effect on society, you said the absolute destruction of society, it's not the same thing at all. Society hasn't been destroyed. I behave the same as I did before with people. | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard.
No I don’t think it’s dramatic. Tell me how “limiting contact with others and wearing a mask“ (your own words!) does not effect on society and how we behave towards one another?
You didn't say it has an effect on society, you said the absolute destruction of society, it's not the same thing at all. Society hasn't been destroyed.
I behave the same as I did before with people."Okay. Millions of children denied proper education and vital access to family and friends. That is not destructive? Millions of people in zombie jobs paid for by the government, walking on a knife edge of unemployment- that’s not destructive? Thousands of deaths of people denied treatment by the nhs? That’s not destructive? Town centres are empty and businesses are closing down on a daily basis- that’s not destructive? Children’s services - social workers are doing check ins by video call to the most vulnerable children in this country - that’s not got the potential to be destructive? I mean- these are a very few of the basics that I could list. There are many many more. And that’s not even starting on the face mask situation. | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard.
No I don’t think it’s dramatic. Tell me how “limiting contact with others and wearing a mask“ (your own words!) does not effect on society and how we behave towards one another?
You didn't say it has an effect on society, you said the absolute destruction of society, it's not the same thing at all. Society hasn't been destroyed.
I behave the same as I did before with people.
Okay. Millions of children denied proper education and vital access to family and friends. That is not destructive?
Millions of people in zombie jobs paid for by the government, walking on a knife edge of unemployment- that’s not destructive?
Thousands of deaths of people denied treatment by the nhs? That’s not destructive?
Town centres are empty and businesses are closing down on a daily basis- that’s not destructive?
Children’s services - social workers are doing check ins by video call to the most vulnerable children in this country - that’s not got the potential to be destructive?
I mean- these are a very few of the basics that I could list. There are many many more. And that’s not even starting on the face mask situation. "What are zombie jobs We dont really know if thousands have died from not being able to go to hospital. As it stands roughly over 40,000 people have died from lockdown..one of the worst on europe. Without lockdown that number would be much,much higher. | |||
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"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard.
No I don’t think it’s dramatic. Tell me how “limiting contact with others and wearing a mask“ (your own words!) does not effect on society and how we behave towards one another?
You didn't say it has an effect on society, you said the absolute destruction of society, it's not the same thing at all. Society hasn't been destroyed.
I behave the same as I did before with people.
Okay. Millions of children denied proper education and vital access to family and friends. That is not destructive?
Millions of people in zombie jobs paid for by the government, walking on a knife edge of unemployment- that’s not destructive?
Thousands of deaths of people denied treatment by the nhs? That’s not destructive?
Town centres are empty and businesses are closing down on a daily basis- that’s not destructive?
Children’s services - social workers are doing check ins by video call to the most vulnerable children in this country - that’s not got the potential to be destructive?
I mean- these are a very few of the basics that I could list. There are many many more. And that’s not even starting on the face mask situation. "Some treatments were postponed in order to lower the risk of death to those patients, we have been living through a pandemic, things could not continue as usual or the death toll would have been far higher. I'm sure people would rather have discomfort and a rough year or so than be dead. You might see the children as being off school as them being denied education, I see it as protecting them and the school staff and possibly helping to prevent the spread of the virus. Yes, it's been a rough year so far but without these measures in place the deaths could have reached much higher numbers. | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard.
No I don’t think it’s dramatic. Tell me how “limiting contact with others and wearing a mask“ (your own words!) does not effect on society and how we behave towards one another?
You didn't say it has an effect on society, you said the absolute destruction of society, it's not the same thing at all. Society hasn't been destroyed.
I behave the same as I did before with people.
Okay. Millions of children denied proper education and vital access to family and friends. That is not destructive?
Millions of people in zombie jobs paid for by the government, walking on a knife edge of unemployment- that’s not destructive?
Thousands of deaths of people denied treatment by the nhs? That’s not destructive?
Town centres are empty and businesses are closing down on a daily basis- that’s not destructive?
Children’s services - social workers are doing check ins by video call to the most vulnerable children in this country - that’s not got the potential to be destructive?
I mean- these are a very few of the basics that I could list. There are many many more. And that’s not even starting on the face mask situation.
What are zombie jobs
We dont really know if thousands have died from not being able to go to hospital.
As it stands roughly over 40,000 people have died from lockdown..one of the worst on europe.
Without lockdown that number would be much,much higher."Zombie jobs- the government has been paying millions of pounds to people to sit at home and do nothing. Now the scheme is coming to an end, and people are bound to become unemployed due to lack of funds to pay them, the government has come up with a new scheme! https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/explainers-52135342 I hope that works- if not, please google- furlough redundancies January The government is paying companies a £1000 bribe, per person, that the company won’t make them redundant now. If they don’t make them unemployed or redundant before January they get the bonus. Imagine a large company where there is currently 400 staff on furlough. If they keep all 400 on until January and then get rid- that’s a nice tidy £400k tax payers money. On top of the furlough. | |||
"So we are told. Have you noticed any increase in funeral cars around the streets ??? I've not. Same as ambulances on the roads . No I haven't. Oh But I'm one of the tin hat lot Lol"  | |||
"So we are told. Have you noticed any increase in funeral cars around the streets ??? I've not. Same as ambulances on the roads . No I haven't. Oh But I'm one of the tin hat lot Lol" I think you're just after people biting, you surely can't be serious? If you are then you're just an absolute bell end. | |||
"So we are told. Have you noticed any increase in funeral cars around the streets ??? I've not. Same as ambulances on the roads . No I haven't. Oh But I'm one of the tin hat lot Lol" So they have made it up? | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard.
No I don’t think it’s dramatic. Tell me how “limiting contact with others and wearing a mask“ (your own words!) does not effect on society and how we behave towards one another?
You didn't say it has an effect on society, you said the absolute destruction of society, it's not the same thing at all. Society hasn't been destroyed.
I behave the same as I did before with people.
Okay. Millions of children denied proper education and vital access to family and friends. That is not destructive?
Millions of people in zombie jobs paid for by the government, walking on a knife edge of unemployment- that’s not destructive?
Thousands of deaths of people denied treatment by the nhs? That’s not destructive?
Town centres are empty and businesses are closing down on a daily basis- that’s not destructive?
Children’s services - social workers are doing check ins by video call to the most vulnerable children in this country - that’s not got the potential to be destructive?
I mean- these are a very few of the basics that I could list. There are many many more. And that’s not even starting on the face mask situation.
Some treatments were postponed in order to lower the risk of death to those patients, we have been living through a pandemic, things could not continue as usual or the death toll would have been far higher. I'm sure people would rather have discomfort and a rough year or so than be dead.
You might see the children as being off school as them being denied education, I see it as protecting them and the school staff and possibly helping to prevent the spread of the virus.
Yes, it's been a rough year so far but without these measures in place the deaths could have reached much higher numbers."I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard.
No I don’t think it’s dramatic. Tell me how “limiting contact with others and wearing a mask“ (your own words!) does not effect on society and how we behave towards one another?
You didn't say it has an effect on society, you said the absolute destruction of society, it's not the same thing at all. Society hasn't been destroyed.
I behave the same as I did before with people.
Okay. Millions of children denied proper education and vital access to family and friends. That is not destructive?
Millions of people in zombie jobs paid for by the government, walking on a knife edge of unemployment- that’s not destructive?
Thousands of deaths of people denied treatment by the nhs? That’s not destructive?
Town centres are empty and businesses are closing down on a daily basis- that’s not destructive?
Children’s services - social workers are doing check ins by video call to the most vulnerable children in this country - that’s not got the potential to be destructive?
I mean- these are a very few of the basics that I could list. There are many many more. And that’s not even starting on the face mask situation.
What are zombie jobs
We dont really know if thousands have died from not being able to go to hospital.
As it stands roughly over 40,000 people have died from lockdown..one of the worst on europe.
Without lockdown that number would be much,much higher.
Zombie jobs- the government has been paying millions of pounds to people to sit at home and do nothing. Now the scheme is coming to an end, and people are bound to become unemployed due to lack of funds to pay them, the government has come up with a new scheme!
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/explainers-52135342
I hope that works- if not, please google- furlough redundancies January
The government is paying companies a £1000 bribe, per person, that the company won’t make them redundant now. If they don’t make them unemployed or redundant before January they get the bonus. Imagine a large company where there is currently 400 staff on furlough. If they keep all 400 on until January and then get rid- that’s a nice tidy £400k tax payers money. On top of the furlough."Like I said.. what's the alternative. 80,000 dead? Its the gmnt responsibility to get the economy up and running again. What I dont get is why we been hit hardest economically? | |||
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"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard.
No I don’t think it’s dramatic. Tell me how “limiting contact with others and wearing a mask“ (your own words!) does not effect on society and how we behave towards one another?
You didn't say it has an effect on society, you said the absolute destruction of society, it's not the same thing at all. Society hasn't been destroyed.
I behave the same as I did before with people.
Okay. Millions of children denied proper education and vital access to family and friends. That is not destructive?
Millions of people in zombie jobs paid for by the government, walking on a knife edge of unemployment- that’s not destructive?
Thousands of deaths of people denied treatment by the nhs? That’s not destructive?
Town centres are empty and businesses are closing down on a daily basis- that’s not destructive?
Children’s services - social workers are doing check ins by video call to the most vulnerable children in this country - that’s not got the potential to be destructive?
I mean- these are a very few of the basics that I could list. There are many many more. And that’s not even starting on the face mask situation.
Some treatments were postponed in order to lower the risk of death to those patients, we have been living through a pandemic, things could not continue as usual or the death toll would have been far higher. I'm sure people would rather have discomfort and a rough year or so than be dead.
You might see the children as being off school as them being denied education, I see it as protecting them and the school staff and possibly helping to prevent the spread of the virus.
Yes, it's been a rough year so far but without these measures in place the deaths could have reached much higher numbers.
I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. "Reading has 1 hospital? The measures are being lifted now arent they? | |||
"So we are told. Have you noticed any increase in funeral cars around the streets ??? I've not. Same as ambulances on the roads . No I haven't. Oh But I'm one of the tin hat lot Lol So they have made it up?" No, I don’t think it’s made up. I just find the hysterical response doesn’t match the death rate. Or even the hospitalisation rate. | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ?" one mate lost his dad who to be honest had health issues and another mate whos wife died at 55 , healthy as shit before it is that enough ?? | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard.
No I don’t think it’s dramatic. Tell me how “limiting contact with others and wearing a mask“ (your own words!) does not effect on society and how we behave towards one another?
You didn't say it has an effect on society, you said the absolute destruction of society, it's not the same thing at all. Society hasn't been destroyed.
I behave the same as I did before with people.
Okay. Millions of children denied proper education and vital access to family and friends. That is not destructive?
Millions of people in zombie jobs paid for by the government, walking on a knife edge of unemployment- that’s not destructive?
Thousands of deaths of people denied treatment by the nhs? That’s not destructive?
Town centres are empty and businesses are closing down on a daily basis- that’s not destructive?
Children’s services - social workers are doing check ins by video call to the most vulnerable children in this country - that’s not got the potential to be destructive?
I mean- these are a very few of the basics that I could list. There are many many more. And that’s not even starting on the face mask situation.
What are zombie jobs
We dont really know if thousands have died from not being able to go to hospital.
As it stands roughly over 40,000 people have died from lockdown..one of the worst on europe.
Without lockdown that number would be much,much higher.
Zombie jobs- the government has been paying millions of pounds to people to sit at home and do nothing. Now the scheme is coming to an end, and people are bound to become unemployed due to lack of funds to pay them, the government has come up with a new scheme!
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/explainers-52135342
I hope that works- if not, please google- furlough redundancies January
The government is paying companies a £1000 bribe, per person, that the company won’t make them redundant now. If they don’t make them unemployed or redundant before January they get the bonus. Imagine a large company where there is currently 400 staff on furlough. If they keep all 400 on until January and then get rid- that’s a nice tidy £400k tax payers money. On top of the furlough.
Like I said.. what's the alternative.
80,000 dead?
Its the gmnt responsibility to get the economy up and running again.
What I dont get is why we been hit hardest economically?"This is going to sound brutal, and I shall put my tin foil helmet on and await the inevitable abuse!! But.... 80,000 isn’t really that many people in the bigger scheme of things. I think we have had extremely weak leadership - Johnson, Hancock (and Williamson more recently) seem to be making things up on the hoof. It has lead to a huge loss in consumer confidence. I don’t know what is happening in other countries- the only one I have more insight into is France. And they are talking about grape crops and cats on the motorway on the news. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. " How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. | |||
"No but I'd expect to know someone . But I don't. I must be very lucky. I wonder how many other fabbers dont know anyone too ? I know people that have had covid, I also have known people that died from it so it does exist. You're being very disrespectful to the people who have lost loved ones. I feel sad for the families who have lost people they loved. But I think that the absolute destruction of society and economy is pretty disrespectful for the hundreds and thousands of people who are still here. Yeah, fuck the dead and their grieving families, who gives a shit if more people die
Do you not think the 'absolute destruction of society' is abit dramatic? We are being asked not to put other people at risk, by limiting contact with others and wearing masks, it isn't that hard.
No I don’t think it’s dramatic. Tell me how “limiting contact with others and wearing a mask“ (your own words!) does not effect on society and how we behave towards one another?
You didn't say it has an effect on society, you said the absolute destruction of society, it's not the same thing at all. Society hasn't been destroyed.
I behave the same as I did before with people." | |||
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" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day." I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million " At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. " I agree that the lockdown helped flatten the curve, and I said above that I was fully behind the measures when they happened. So the curve has been flattened - what’s the exit strategy? As for how I’ve been affected- I don’t intend to display on this particular forum how this “virus” and the various forms of Insidious government bullshit has got to me personally. I can only say- very much so. But I’m a pragmatic person, not an overly emotional one. Perhaps that makes the difference- I don’t mean that to be rude. I’m just suggesting that could be the difference between our opinions. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. " The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. " I confirm | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I agree that the lockdown helped flatten the curve, and I said above that I was fully behind the measures when they happened. So the curve has been flattened - what’s the exit strategy? As for how I’ve been affected- I don’t intend to display on this particular forum how this “virus” and the various forms of Insidious government bullshit has got to me personally. I can only say- very much so. But I’m a pragmatic person, not an overly emotional one. Perhaps that makes the difference- I don’t mean that to be rude. I’m just suggesting that could be the difference between our opinions. " The tricky thing about a new virus is that the scientists etc are learning as they go, we haven't experienced anything like this before so plans might not always go ahead as expected and sometimes plans simply can't be made until more is known. I'm not overly emotional about this, I'm just willing and happy to do what's needed as a country to protect vulnerable people. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million " The early estimate I think was 60% of 66 million getting infected with a mortality of 1% do the maths, 400,000. Good news is mortality is about 0.5% so that only projects 200,000 deaths now | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I agree that the lockdown helped flatten the curve, and I said above that I was fully behind the measures when they happened. So the curve has been flattened - what’s the exit strategy? As for how I’ve been affected- I don’t intend to display on this particular forum how this “virus” and the various forms of Insidious government bullshit has got to me personally. I can only say- very much so. But I’m a pragmatic person, not an overly emotional one. Perhaps that makes the difference- I don’t mean that to be rude. I’m just suggesting that could be the difference between our opinions. The tricky thing about a new virus is that the scientists etc are learning as they go, we haven't experienced anything like this before so plans might not always go ahead as expected and sometimes plans simply can't be made until more is known. I'm not overly emotional about this, I'm just willing and happy to do what's needed as a country to protect vulnerable people. " Yeah, sorry - when I read it back the phrase “overly emotionally” sounded patronising - my apologies. On the other hand- you have to recognise that asking me how many deaths does it take is an impossible question to answer on a forum like this one. You know perfectly well that if I even said one death, I would be crucified. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. " Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April " Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point?" I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.  | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us. "Yeah I suppose so- fair point!! | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!! "Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy. | |||
"Where are these people who are dying? Just out of interest " Well they're not doing much anymore. Lazy, eh? | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy. "I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too. "Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now. | |||
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" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too. "I'd add finance onto that.. but yes you are right. And that's prob why we are so fucked. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now. "We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago . | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago ."Thatcher's legacy. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy."Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake. "Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening. | |||
"How many of you wonderfull fabbers think . This virus is getting very boring." Almost as boring as watching you setup yet another thread to tell us you're super smart and the rest of us are sheep... | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening."The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx | |||
"So we are told. Have you noticed any increase in funeral cars around the streets ??? I've not. Same as ambulances on the roads . No I haven't. Oh But I'm one of the tin hat lot Lol" Well, according to the ONS map, your area of Bromsgrove had 6 Covid deaths between March and June. Surprised you didn't notice the funeral cars, as that's more than 1 extra funeral a month  | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening.
The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx "I can just tell no facts about Thatcher will sway your view. So, instead, I'll give an obvious example of how history can affect the present. World War 2. It was ages ago. We've had decades to correct the problems it caused. But, to this day, we can see the scars of it in so many ways. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening.
The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx
I can just tell no facts about Thatcher will sway your view. So, instead, I'll give an obvious example of how history can affect the present. World War 2. It was ages ago. We've had decades to correct the problems it caused. But, to this day, we can see the scars of it in so many ways."I’ve got no skin in this game. I’m not a Tory or a thatcher supporter... although a wicked part of me does wonder what the Iron Lady would have made of this nonsense we are being subjected to at the moment!! But that’s another point altogether. Of course history has an effect on our present day. I would say that, in this country/continent , it’s usually a good thing. Which scars are you talking about? Genuinely interested to know  | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening.
The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx "Quite hard to resurrect a whole strata of the economy once it's been decimated. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening.
The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx
Quite hard to resurrect a whole strata of the economy once it's been decimated."Yeah I know - tell that to Johnson and Hancock ey??? | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening.
The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx
I can just tell no facts about Thatcher will sway your view. So, instead, I'll give an obvious example of how history can affect the present. World War 2. It was ages ago. We've had decades to correct the problems it caused. But, to this day, we can see the scars of it in so many ways.
I’ve got no skin in this game. I’m not a Tory or a thatcher supporter... although a wicked part of me does wonder what the Iron Lady would have made of this nonsense we are being subjected to at the moment!! But that’s another point altogether.
Of course history has an effect on our present day. I would say that, in this country/continent , it’s usually a good thing. Which scars are you talking about? Genuinely interested to know "That would take a very long reply to answer fully. Short answer: it led to Allo Allo. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening.
The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx
I can just tell no facts about Thatcher will sway your view. So, instead, I'll give an obvious example of how history can affect the present. World War 2. It was ages ago. We've had decades to correct the problems it caused. But, to this day, we can see the scars of it in so many ways.
I’ve got no skin in this game. I’m not a Tory or a thatcher supporter... although a wicked part of me does wonder what the Iron Lady would have made of this nonsense we are being subjected to at the moment!! But that’s another point altogether.
Of course history has an effect on our present day. I would say that, in this country/continent , it’s usually a good thing. Which scars are you talking about? Genuinely interested to know
That would take a very long reply to answer fully. Short answer: it led to Allo Allo. " | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening.
The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx
I can just tell no facts about Thatcher will sway your view. So, instead, I'll give an obvious example of how history can affect the present. World War 2. It was ages ago. We've had decades to correct the problems it caused. But, to this day, we can see the scars of it in so many ways.
I’ve got no skin in this game. I’m not a Tory or a thatcher supporter... although a wicked part of me does wonder what the Iron Lady would have made of this nonsense we are being subjected to at the moment!! But that’s another point altogether.
Of course history has an effect on our present day. I would say that, in this country/continent , it’s usually a good thing. Which scars are you talking about? Genuinely interested to know
That would take a very long reply to answer fully. Short answer: it led to Allo Allo. "Ok. The Second World War was nearly 100 years ago now, and allo allo was on the tele when I was a child. It’s time to move on, buddy. | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening.
The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx
I can just tell no facts about Thatcher will sway your view. So, instead, I'll give an obvious example of how history can affect the present. World War 2. It was ages ago. We've had decades to correct the problems it caused. But, to this day, we can see the scars of it in so many ways.
I’ve got no skin in this game. I’m not a Tory or a thatcher supporter... although a wicked part of me does wonder what the Iron Lady would have made of this nonsense we are being subjected to at the moment!! But that’s another point altogether.
Of course history has an effect on our present day. I would say that, in this country/continent , it’s usually a good thing. Which scars are you talking about? Genuinely interested to know
That would take a very long reply to answer fully. Short answer: it led to Allo Allo.
Ok. The Second World War was nearly 100 years ago now, and allo allo was on the tele when I was a child. It’s time to move on, buddy."Huh.... got the joke after I posted that! Gah!  | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening.
The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx
I can just tell no facts about Thatcher will sway your view. So, instead, I'll give an obvious example of how history can affect the present. World War 2. It was ages ago. We've had decades to correct the problems it caused. But, to this day, we can see the scars of it in so many ways.
I’ve got no skin in this game. I’m not a Tory or a thatcher supporter... although a wicked part of me does wonder what the Iron Lady would have made of this nonsense we are being subjected to at the moment!! But that’s another point altogether.
Of course history has an effect on our present day. I would say that, in this country/continent , it’s usually a good thing. Which scars are you talking about? Genuinely interested to know
That would take a very long reply to answer fully. Short answer: it led to Allo Allo.
Ok. The Second World War was nearly 100 years ago now, and allo allo was on the tele when I was a child. It’s time to move on, buddy."Nevehr. I shall write like zis if I vant to.  | |||
" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening.
The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx
I can just tell no facts about Thatcher will sway your view. So, instead, I'll give an obvious example of how history can affect the present. World War 2. It was ages ago. We've had decades to correct the problems it caused. But, to this day, we can see the scars of it in so many ways.
I’ve got no skin in this game. I’m not a Tory or a thatcher supporter... although a wicked part of me does wonder what the Iron Lady would have made of this nonsense we are being subjected to at the moment!! But that’s another point altogether.
Of course history has an effect on our present day. I would say that, in this country/continent , it’s usually a good thing. Which scars are you talking about? Genuinely interested to know
That would take a very long reply to answer fully. Short answer: it led to Allo Allo.
Ok. The Second World War was nearly 100 years ago now, and allo allo was on the tele when I was a child. It’s time to move on, buddy.
Nevehr. I shall write like zis if I vant to. "Oh la la! *ruffles a feather duster in the style of Vicky Michele* | |||
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" I disagree with you about living through discomfort. I was all for the measures when bojo was on the television telling us how we needed to flatten the curve and serve our country and all of that sort of stuff. That was March. It’s now August, the curve has been flattened. In my local hospital a total of 177 people have died WITH the Rona, since the beginning of the “pandemic”. Tell me why I should support such severe measures for such a low death toll. Reading has a population of over 600,000 people. 177 have died. How many deaths are acceptable to you? Or is it simply that covid hasn't affected you so other people's loss is acceptable? The curve gas flattened because of the lockdown, we don't want to risk another peak so they are slowly moving us out of lockdown, seems pretty sensible to me. I don’t how many deaths would be acceptable Keeley- it’s a great question from someone who opposes my opinion, because you know perfectly well there is no acceptable answer. Of course, it is sad that people die. But people DO die. That is a fact of life. At the beginning of the crises we were given a model of 500,000 I think. And people were dying at a shocking rate. Here’s the rub. I don’t think the general population has any idea of the actual death rates we see on a daily, weekly or yearly basis, in a normal year. I think that’s why we have been so shocked. We have been so shielded from death and suffering, we cant imagine this terrible end that we all face, one day. I'm fairly sure the estomate was no where near half a million At the beginning there was talk of a worse case scenario of 500k deaths. The initial modelling was 500k deaths- Keeley is correct. Whitty estimated 27,000 berween the outbreak and next April Well that’s amazing isn’t it.... I would love to know why we trashed our entire economy on the prospect of 27,000 people then? Either he fucked up and overestimated, or he underestimated and we ballsed everyone’s life anyway.... I don’t get your point? I just had this vague memory of the estomate being much lower than 50,000..I think that's where it comes from. Half a million would have been utterly devestating Surely most countries in the world have been affected?its not just us.
Yeah I suppose so- fair point!!
Like I said before though, I dont really get why we have been the worst hit in europe.in terms of the economy.
I have no actual facts to back this up! But my opinion- and it’s just opinion, before I get piled on!! Our economy has two massive industries- service and hospitality. Jeesh- no wonder the government was more concerned about getting the pubs and resteraunts open than schools. Not only do the british thrive on our social lives - but our entire economy does too.
Sorry - I went off on one lol!! The point is- other countries produce stuff. They will continue to produce stuff. Britain’s production has been reduced to what?? A few clothing factories. That’s why we are suffering more now.
We decimated our manufacturing industry years ago .
Thatcher's legacy.
Thatcher finished her premiership in 1990, and died in 2013 I think. I’m not saying she didn’t cause problems, but I think we need to start taking responsibility for our own fates now. The woman is dead for Christ sake.
Facts and history won't convince you. So I'll just say I hope you have a wonderful evening.
The subsequent governments have had decades to correct the problems she caused. What would you like to convince me of? She’s powerful beyond the grave?? Anyway. A good evening to you also. I thank you for your well wishes. Dx
I can just tell no facts about Thatcher will sway your view. So, instead, I'll give an obvious example of how history can affect the present. World War 2. It was ages ago. We've had decades to correct the problems it caused. But, to this day, we can see the scars of it in so many ways.
I’ve got no skin in this game. I’m not a Tory or a thatcher supporter... although a wicked part of me does wonder what the Iron Lady would have made of this nonsense we are being subjected to at the moment!! But that’s another point altogether.
Of course history has an effect on our present day. I would say that, in this country/continent , it’s usually a good thing. Which scars are you talking about? Genuinely interested to know
That would take a very long reply to answer fully. Short answer: it led to Allo Allo.
Ok. The Second World War was nearly 100 years ago now, and allo allo was on the tele when I was a child. It’s time to move on, buddy.
Nevehr. I shall write like zis if I vant to.
Oh la la! *ruffles a feather duster in the style of Vicky Michele* "Ze worst embarrassment of zem all!!! Not getting le joke before responding!!! The shame!! | |||
"This thread's gone way off topic, even by the standards of fab. I apologise. (But I don't regret the Allo Allo bit.)"  | |||
"This thread's gone way off topic, even by the standards of fab. I apologise. (But I don't regret the Allo Allo bit.)" Man goes down fighting! I like your style | |||
"This thread's gone way off topic, even by the standards of fab. I apologise. (But I don't regret the Allo Allo bit.) Man goes down fighting! I like your style " | |||
