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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Russian developed vaccine has been given regulatory approval. (In Russia obviously). Now going into mass production.
Oxford vaccine already in mass production...not yet finished final stages of testing which could then be followed by approval. |
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Russia is conducting a live phase 3 test with its population on a current Mers vaccine that has been tweaked for sars-cov-2, this is why they seem to be ahead as such. Whilst Oxford are beginning in a controlled phase 3 test on certain individuals.
Its all fascinating science |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Russia is conducting a live phase 3 test with its population on a current Mers vaccine that has been tweaked for sars-cov-2, this is why they seem to be ahead as such. Whilst Oxford are beginning in a controlled phase 3 test on certain individuals.
Its all fascinating science " Probably double the virus death rate and Putin will not give a damn and the people will exept it |
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"Russia is conducting a live phase 3 test with its population on a current Mers vaccine that has been tweaked for sars-cov-2, this is why they seem to be ahead as such. Whilst Oxford are beginning in a controlled phase 3 test on certain individuals.
Its all fascinating science "
And China have one, and there's two mRNA ones in the US. |
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"Russia is conducting a live phase 3 test with its population on a current Mers vaccine that has been tweaked for sars-cov-2, this is why they seem to be ahead as such. Whilst Oxford are beginning in a controlled phase 3 test on certain individuals.
Its all fascinating science
And China have one, and there's two mRNA ones in the US."
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists... "
Yes, there had never been any airplane flights until 1903, so because it didn't happen until then it obviously means that it's impossible for it to ever happen! |
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"This is the first to get regulatory approval."
What will matter most for our purposes is a vaccine approved here. Potentially (I'm not sure, and it'd be persuasive not compelling I'm sure) a vaccine approved in a place where we have high regard for their regulatory standards. (Probably not Russia or China) |
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists... "
Nope. All wisdom hails from the forum, and if you deviate from it you're a gloom spreader and a reality denier |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I though America bought all the Oxford vaccine (when finished) "
No. We have 100 million of them already sorted... 150 million of three other "good candidates" already pre-ordered. |
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"I though America bought all the Oxford vaccine (when finished)
No. We have 100 million of them already sorted... 150 million of three other "good candidates" already pre-ordered."
I think I heard that the EU is trying to ensure some vaccines get to poorer countries.
Too damn right. |
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Yes, there had never been any airplane flights until 1903, so because it didn't happen until then it obviously means that it's impossible for it to ever happen!"
I think I need to go have a lay down somewhere cold and dark to let this bombshell sink in.
Is Coventry still open? |
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Nope. All wisdom hails from the forum, and if you deviate from it you're a gloom spreader and a reality denier "
All hail the mighty forum and prostate yourselves before it!!! |
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"I though America bought all the Oxford vaccine (when finished) "
I think you are getting confused with the drug remdesivir. This isn't a vaccine. It's a drug that helps people recover quicker once they have covid-19. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This is the first to get regulatory approval."
Aw well it must be ok as Putin has giving it to his daughter..kind if reminds me of selwyn gummer and the beef burger |
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Yes, there had never been any airplane flights until 1903, so because it didn't happen until then it obviously means that it's impossible for it to ever happen!"
I used this example yesterday and got laughed at for using an example from the past. Then I got laughed at for using holidays on Mars as an example of something currently impossible, but might be possible in future, with scientific advance. I give up |
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Nope. All wisdom hails from the forum, and if you deviate from it you're a gloom spreader and a reality denier
All hail the mighty forum and prostate yourselves before it!!!"
I thought the prostate was something entirely different
*Goes away to re-read Gray's Anatomy textbook* |
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Nope. All wisdom hails from the forum, and if you deviate from it you're a gloom spreader and a reality denier
All hail the mighty forum and prostate yourselves before it!!!
I thought the prostate was something entirely different
*Goes away to re-read Gray's Anatomy textbook*"
*Gets an idea for a kinky story. Servitude and milking* |
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Yes, there had never been any airplane flights until 1903, so because it didn't happen until then it obviously means that it's impossible for it to ever happen!
I used this example yesterday and got laughed at for using an example from the past. Then I got laughed at for using holidays on Mars as an example of something currently impossible, but might be possible in future, with scientific advance. I give up "
It doesn't fit their agenda, therefore it's wrong because reasons.
Evidence is an agenda of liberals who love Boris Johnson. |
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Yes, there had never been any airplane flights until 1903, so because it didn't happen until then it obviously means that it's impossible for it to ever happen!
I used this example yesterday and got laughed at for using an example from the past. Then I got laughed at for using holidays on Mars as an example of something currently impossible, but might be possible in future, with scientific advance. I give up
It doesn't fit their agenda, therefore it's wrong because reasons.
Evidence is an agenda of liberals who love Boris Johnson."
.. the heck did I just write |
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Yes, there had never been any airplane flights until 1903, so because it didn't happen until then it obviously means that it's impossible for it to ever happen!
I used this example yesterday and got laughed at for using an example from the past. Then I got laughed at for using holidays on Mars as an example of something currently impossible, but might be possible in future, with scientific advance. I give up
It doesn't fit their agenda, therefore it's wrong because reasons.
Evidence is an agenda of liberals who love Boris Johnson.
.. the heck did I just write "
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Yes, there had never been any airplane flights until 1903, so because it didn't happen until then it obviously means that it's impossible for it to ever happen!
I used this example yesterday and got laughed at for using an example from the past. Then I got laughed at for using holidays on Mars as an example of something currently impossible, but might be possible in future, with scientific advance. I give up "
The people who insisted that it was totally impossible never responded, when challenged, to declare their expertise or any evidence. Says it all really.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Elsevier
10 Oct 2019
Author G.Wolff study in 2017-2018
Flu shot increases chance of getting other respirarory illness by 36%
Thats just one paper
Flu vaccine.. still get flu.
Covid19 recovery should you get contracted by it is 99.98%
More chance of getting killed in a road side accident.
Should you really want a vaccine that makes you more susceptible to further illness when the recoverary is almost 100% ????
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"Elsevier
10 Oct 2019
Author G.Wolff study in 2017-2018
Flu shot increases chance of getting other respirarory illness by 36%
Thats just one paper
Flu vaccine.. still get flu.
Covid19 recovery should you get contracted by it is 99.98%
More chance of getting killed in a road side accident.
Should you really want a vaccine that makes you more susceptible to further illness when the recoverary is almost 100% ????
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If we're deliberately defining "recovery" to exclude any outcome other than death, then, yes.
I want to protect myself and others from a virus that has caused significant harm. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"That is wonderful news from Russia.
The U.K. needs to order millions of the Russian vaccine to get our people vaccinated before the end of this month."
Going off what the Russian spokesman just said that would be a bit pointless because apparently it’s exactly the same as the Oxford vaccine.
You know the Oxford one where the Russians were suspected of hacking the Oxford vaccine data. |
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"That is wonderful news from Russia.
The U.K. needs to order millions of the Russian vaccine to get our people vaccinated before the end of this month."
Unfortunately the regulatory mechanisms the UK has in place to ensure safety and efficacy will prevent that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That is wonderful news from Russia.
The U.K. needs to order millions of the Russian vaccine to get our people vaccinated before the end of this month.
Going off what the Russian spokesman just said that would be a bit pointless because apparently it’s exactly the same as the Oxford vaccine.
You know the Oxford one where the Russians were suspected of hacking the Oxford vaccine data."
The Russians have been given regulatory approval, they are first.
Boris Johnson can order millions of doses from Russia and we can get the Uk vaccinated before the end of August |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That is wonderful news from Russia.
The U.K. needs to order millions of the Russian vaccine to get our people vaccinated before the end of this month.
Going off what the Russian spokesman just said that would be a bit pointless because apparently it’s exactly the same as the Oxford vaccine.
You know the Oxford one where the Russians were suspected of hacking the Oxford vaccine data.
The Russians have been given regulatory approval, they are first.
Boris Johnson can order millions of doses from Russia and we can get the Uk vaccinated before the end of August "
It's not even had clinical testing yet. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That is wonderful news from Russia.
The U.K. needs to order millions of the Russian vaccine to get our people vaccinated before the end of this month.
Going off what the Russian spokesman just said that would be a bit pointless because apparently it’s exactly the same as the Oxford vaccine.
You know the Oxford one where the Russians were suspected of hacking the Oxford vaccine data.
The Russians have been given regulatory approval, they are first.
Boris Johnson can order millions of doses from Russia and we can get the Uk vaccinated before the end of August "
Apart from the fact the Russians are not rolling it out in Russia until October. |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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"Russian developed vaccine has been given regulatory approval. (In Russia obviously). Now going into mass production.
Oxford vaccine already in mass production...not yet finished final stages of testing which could then be followed by approval."
no thankyou |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"That is wonderful news from Russia.
The U.K. needs to order millions of the Russian vaccine to get our people vaccinated before the end of this month.
Going off what the Russian spokesman just said that would be a bit pointless because apparently it’s exactly the same as the Oxford vaccine.
You know the Oxford one where the Russians were suspected of hacking the Oxford vaccine data.
The Russians have been given regulatory approval, they are first.
Boris Johnson can order millions of doses from Russia and we can get the Uk vaccinated before the end of August
Apart from the fact the Russians are not rolling it out in Russia until October."
Ok the UK can order millions of the Russian vaccine and get our people vaccinated in October
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Yes, there had never been any airplane flights until 1903, so because it didn't happen until then it obviously means that it's impossible for it to ever happen!"
I never said it would be impossible to develope a vaccine for covid19 - just that it is illogical to postulate we will get a vaccine because people said we would never be able to fly
I mean it may be possible to get a vaccine for covid19 in 10 years - but if it did take that long it may as well be impossible because it will no longer be an issue |
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"Elsevier
10 Oct 2019
Author G.Wolff study in 2017-2018
Flu shot increases chance of getting other respirarory illness by 36%
Thats just one paper
Flu vaccine.. still get flu.
Covid19 recovery should you get contracted by it is 99.98%
More chance of getting killed in a road side accident.
Should you really want a vaccine that makes you more susceptible to further illness when the recoverary is almost 100% ????
"
Do you believe in any vaccination, or is it just Covid you have concerns about? |
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Yes, there had never been any airplane flights until 1903, so because it didn't happen until then it obviously means that it's impossible for it to ever happen!
I never said it would be impossible to develope a vaccine for covid19 - just that it is illogical to postulate we will get a vaccine because people said we would never be able to fly
I mean it may be possible to get a vaccine for covid19 in 10 years - but if it did take that long it may as well be impossible because it will no longer be an issue"
Yeah whatever... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I can’t believe I replied to telforddave. What was I thinking
It's ok - I'm working on a vaccine.
You want vodka or gin flavour? "
Damn it. I drink rum. Will this nightmare ever end. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm excited by all of this. Look at the science working. "
It's very exciting, well done Russian scientists on being the first to have a vaccine.
I hope Russia will share their vaccine with the U.K. and the rest of the world. |
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"I'm excited by all of this. Look at the science working.
It's very exciting, well done Russian scientists on being the first to have a vaccine.
I hope Russia will share their vaccine with the U.K. and the rest of the world."
Absolutely!
Then we'll wait for the appropriate regulatory approval |
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"I can’t believe I replied to telforddave. What was I thinking
It's ok - I'm working on a vaccine.
You want vodka or gin flavour?
Damn it. I drink rum. Will this nightmare ever end."
Four doses of my vaccine and you won't care... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Nope. All wisdom hails from the forum, and if you deviate from it you're a gloom spreader and a reality denier
All hail the mighty forum and prostate yourselves before it!!!
I thought the prostate was something entirely different
*Goes away to re-read Gray's Anatomy textbook*"
With all the talk of R rates, the r is having a day off maybe |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Isn't it time some people realised that because you find it on Google doesn't actually mean it's true
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It is true, Putin has already vaccinated his daughter with this first approved vaccine.
Hopefully this vaccine will be shared with the world including UK
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"No way !!!
I read here yesterday that making a vaccine was impossible and that it would never happen because it hadn't before...
Crikey - it's almost like this science thing actually exists...
Nope. All wisdom hails from the forum, and if you deviate from it you're a gloom spreader and a reality denier
All hail the mighty forum and prostate yourselves before it!!!
I thought the prostate was something entirely different
*Goes away to re-read Gray's Anatomy textbook*
With all the talk of R rates, the r is having a day off maybe "
The anatomy book did not describe the prostate per the message above |
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"I can’t believe I replied to telforddave. What was I thinking
It's ok - I'm working on a vaccine.
You want vodka or gin flavour?
Damn it. I drink rum. Will this nightmare ever end.
Four doses of my vaccine and you won't care... "
Oooooo nurse |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Russia hasn’t properly tested the vaccine so have no idea if it works and how effective it will be.
Reports of suppression of side effects are rife, with civilians reporting more of them due to slightly less risk of intimidation than the military personnel who have had it. That Putin claims to have given it his daughter is cute, but proves nothing and could easily be a lie.
I wouldn’t get my hopes up for the Russian vaccine. Safer routes are far more promising. |
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"Russia hasn’t properly tested the vaccine so have no idea if it works and how effective it will be.
Reports of suppression of side effects are rife, with civilians reporting more of them due to slightly less risk of intimidation than the military personnel who have had it. That Putin claims to have given it his daughter is cute, but proves nothing and could easily be a lie.
I wouldn’t get my hopes up for the Russian vaccine. Safer routes are far more promising."
Agreed entirely.
But if it's regarded as a potential by the authorities here, it'll be examined by the authorities here.
If not, we wait for other promising potential vaccines and treatment. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Elsevier
10 Oct 2019
Author G.Wolff study in 2017-2018
Flu shot increases chance of getting other respirarory illness by 36%
Thats just one paper
Flu vaccine.. still get flu.
Covid19 recovery should you get contracted by it is 99.98%
More chance of getting killed in a road side accident.
Should you really want a vaccine that makes you more susceptible to further illness when the recoverary is almost 100% ????
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I just looked up the paper you referenced. I shall include a direct quote from it:
"Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population....however significant protection with (influenza) vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections."
So, in short....the total opposite of the point you are attempting to make. |
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