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Read the following today and wondered what people's views were on the subject...
Scientists working on Britain’s best hope for a vaccine are understood to be at odds about whether to deliberately infect healthy patients in order to test it.
Professor Adrian Hill, director of the Jenner Institute at Oxford University, wants to recruit young volunteers for such tests in the hope it will speed up the race for a successful jab.
He is among hundreds of scientists advocating the use of “human challenge trials” which would see healthy people under the age of 30 deliberately infected in order to test the jab.
But Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at the institute, is understood to have clashed with him over his intentions, believing the risk to volunteers is too high. |
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I think it's noble for any volunteers to put themselves forward for this. It's certainly helpful if people could be infected and for their responses to be fully evaluated for research purposes. There's not zero risk but candidates would be screened to help to minimise any risks for the volunteer participants, as well as given full medical supervision and care afterwards. |
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over a year ago
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If I were fit to volunteer I would, in a heartbeat. Not because I'm a martyr or anything but because at this rate I would want to do anything to speed up getting back to normality and stopping me/my family worrying. |
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I would certainly do it. Although I don’t think I qualify as young.
They could have as much of my antibody blood after as well (within reason).
I had an email on Friday asking for blood if I have had Covid already. Shame the centres are miles away. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If I were fit to volunteer I would, in a heartbeat. Not because I'm a martyr or anything but because at this rate I would want to do anything to speed up getting back to normality and stopping me/my family worrying. "
Me to I am sure they could get volunteers.If I was 30 years younger I would.
I have put my name down for test on older people |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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I don't see a problem with using willing and healthy volunteers as covid isn't a particularly lethal or serious illness for most people.
The only issue I can see is that people are building their hopes up so much as to relying on a vaccine to be a magic bullet. There's a good chance that a vaccine could prove ineffective if the virus mutates (like flu does), also I wouldn't feel comfortable having the vaccine as yet due to the rushed nature of it's development and potential for side effects etc. |
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over a year ago
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You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google "
What is the purpose of putting these metals into a vaccine? you seem to know a lot about what goes on with vaccines and im interested to know why they would do this.  |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google "
Where do you do your research??? |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google "
Oh and seeing as Bill Gates doesn't make vaccines it kind of voids your question. |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google What is the purpose of putting these metals into a vaccine? you seem to know a lot about what goes on with vaccines and im interested to know why they would do this. "
They are adjuvants- substances that optimise the immune response with the minimum level of antigen (antigen = thing on the disease that your imm system recognises). There is a sweet spot between not stimulating a sufficient response; a protective level of response and an over response (where the immune system creates a cytokine storm and could kill you). Using adjuvants helps in getting the balance right. |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google What is the purpose of putting these metals into a vaccine? you seem to know a lot about what goes on with vaccines and im interested to know why they would do this.
They are adjuvants- substances that optimise the immune response with the minimum level of antigen (antigen = thing on the disease that your imm system recognises). There is a sweet spot between not stimulating a sufficient response; a protective level of response and an over response (where the immune system creates a cytokine storm and could kill you). Using adjuvants helps in getting the balance right. "
Precisely. I don't think the poster has a clue about methylmercury and ethylmercury. I'm also intrigued to see where they did their research if not using Google. |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google
Where do you do your research???"
Here of course  |
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I don't see the big deal, all new drugs (except for certain diseases like cancer) have to be tested in healthy volunteers first. It's only if they're safe that clinical trials progress to patients.
Volunteering for a trial of a first of its type drug has its risks but it shouldn't be any worse for a covid vaccine compared to anything else. |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google "
You seriously need to seek some proper education and learn what goes into a vaccine and why. Just cause something is dangerous in its pure form doesn't mean it is when mixed with something else. Your table salt would kill you if you are either component ingredient. As for you believing in bill gates "and his vaccines" you are literally making yourself a laughing stock. |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google
Where do you do your research???
Here of course "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google What is the purpose of putting these metals into a vaccine? you seem to know a lot about what goes on with vaccines and im interested to know why they would do this. "
I sincerely hope this was sarcasm... |
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I’m on the vacinne trial, I think the concern is it’s still such an early stage to then deliberately infect people. There’s a lot of Unkown’s and to be honest a growing number of cases of people will mid range symptoms yet long term damage from the virus x |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google "
Trust him more than I'd trust you and your so called 'research'. |
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"I’m on the vacinne trial, I think the concern is it’s still such an early stage to then deliberately infect people. There’s a lot of Unkown’s and to be honest a growing number of cases of people will mid range symptoms yet long term damage from the virus x"
I'm contributing to the UK Biobank research, sending blood once a month. I know I've had it now, thanks to an NHS Ab test. After my surgery, I'm going to look into plasma donation. |
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"I wouldn't want my kids or any of my younger relatives volunteering to be deliberately infected with a virus whose long term effects are unknown. "
Surely it would be their decision though? |
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"I wouldn't want my kids or any of my younger relatives volunteering to be deliberately infected with a virus whose long term effects are unknown.
Surely it would be their decision though? "
Yep, I'd advise them against it though they are very precious to me |
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"I don't see a problem with using willing and healthy volunteers as covid isn't a particularly lethal or serious illness for most people.
The only issue I can see is that people are building their hopes up so much as to relying on a vaccine to be a magic bullet. There's a good chance that a vaccine could prove ineffective if the virus mutates (like flu does), also I wouldn't feel comfortable having the vaccine as yet due to the rushed nature of it's development and potential for side effects etc."
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The thread title is misleading- you cannot 'infect' someone with a vaccine unless it uses a live weakened virus. The majority vote vaccines do not, and there's absolutely no chance of catching the disease from such vaccines.
People who volunteer for phase 1 clinical trials are kept in hospital, carefully monitored and paid. Often they are university students. If you're comfortable with the risk, it's a way to get a comprehensive health check for free.
There are many many clinical trials in the UK for all sorts of drugs right now. You don't hear about them because 99+% of trials are safe and do not cause any harm. |
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"The thread title is misleading- you cannot 'infect' someone with a vaccine unless it uses a live weakened virus. The majority vote vaccines do not, and there's absolutely no chance of catching the disease from such vaccines.
People who volunteer for phase 1 clinical trials are kept in hospital, carefully monitored and paid. Often they are university students. If you're comfortable with the risk, it's a way to get a comprehensive health check for free.
There are many many clinical trials in the UK for all sorts of drugs right now. You don't hear about them because 99+% of trials are safe and do not cause any harm."
No one is suggesting people would be inge with the vaccine. The Oxford study is looking for people to be immunised and then later deliberately exposed to the SARS-COV-2 virus. The Oxford group are investigating the efficacy of the vaccine in Brazil at the moment, where natural exposure is more likely (rising infec there). All this was discussed in a Ch4 documentary last week, which covered all the current understanding on the Oxford vaccine. |
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"The thread title is misleading- you cannot 'infect' someone with a vaccine unless it uses a live weakened virus. The majority vote vaccines do not, and there's absolutely no chance of catching the disease from such vaccines.
People who volunteer for phase 1 clinical trials are kept in hospital, carefully monitored and paid. Often they are university students. If you're comfortable with the risk, it's a way to get a comprehensive health check for free.
There are many many clinical trials in the UK for all sorts of drugs right now. You don't hear about them because 99+% of trials are safe and do not cause any harm."
The thread title is not misleading whatsoever.
Nor is my opening post.... |
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Let's be very clear: have you ever taken medicines or intend to if they are prescribed?
Because every drug goes through a process where it is deliberately given to healthy volunteers with their consent.
And as I said, majority of covid vaccines in development are in no way contagious. If you want to read about the science, here's a good place to start
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31252-6/fulltext |
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"Let's be very clear: have you ever taken medicines or intend to if they are prescribed?
Because every drug goes through a process where it is deliberately given to healthy volunteers with their consent.
And as I said, majority of covid vaccines in development are in no way contagious. If you want to read about the science, here's a good place to start
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31252-6/fulltext"
The op is saying that scientists are conflicted about whether they should deliberately infect people in order that they can test the vaccine. Not that they are infecting people with the vaccine |
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"Let's be very clear: have you ever taken medicines or intend to if they are prescribed?
Because every drug goes through a process where it is deliberately given to healthy volunteers with their consent.
And as I said, majority of covid vaccines in development are in no way contagious. If you want to read about the science, here's a good place to start
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31252-6/fulltext"
Do you understand the content of this journal article? Your statement "majority of covid vaccines in development are in no way contagious" makes no sense scientifically. A vaccine is substance that works by introducing part or all of an infectious agent (often nowadays only part of the infectious agent is used, but depends on the vaccine). This bit that the immune system recognises and responds to is the antigen. Even vaccines that consist of whole infectious organisms (examples include the oral polio vaccine and the nasal flu vaccine) rarely incorporate organisms that could cause the disease in question, because the whole organism is usually attenuated (weakened).
So, vaccines are not infectious, but they include all or part of an infectious agent (antigen). To test the efficacy of a vaccine, you expose the vaccinated individuals to the natural disease. This is what the OP is referring to. The Oxford study needs willing volunteers to be vaccinated and then at a later date, be exposed to the real, live SARS-COV-2 virus. |
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Ok, apologies, I understand now what you're talking about.
The big question with viral vaccines is how do you know they are effective? Children are given polio vaccines and in the old days everyone had smallpox vaccines. Nobody would want to check if they're effective by deliberately infecting anyone because these are life threatening.
But this is how the first vaccine from Jenner was tested, by deliberate infection. And for covid, in a healthy young adult carefully monitored in a hospital, the risk is small. If our PM, an older overweight male, can get through it, I have confidence the volunteers will. The risk is never zero but smaller than testing some experimental drug which is the first of its type. |
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Considering the amount of people who think it is a government conspiracy, now is your time to prove us right.
If there isn't any real danger from it, why aren't they at the front of the queue volunteering. |
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"Ok, apologies, I understand now what you're talking about.
The big question with viral vaccines is how do you know they are effective? Children are given polio vaccines and in the old days everyone had smallpox vaccines. Nobody would want to check if they're effective by deliberately infecting anyone because these are life threatening.
But this is how the first vaccine from Jenner was tested, by deliberate infection. And for covid, in a healthy young adult carefully monitored in a hospital, the risk is small. If our PM, an older overweight male, can get through it, I have confidence the volunteers will. The risk is never zero but smaller than testing some experimental drug which is the first of its type."
They test first on animals and later on humans. Where the natural disease is widespread and circulating, you don't need to deliberately infect vaccine volunteers. You just see if they get the natural infections. The rate of acquisition of SARS-COV-2 in the UK is currently generally lower than optimum for investigating vaccine efficacy and so the alternative is to deliberately infect low risk individuals. In addition to this request, the Oxford team is trialling its vaccine in Brazil, where natural disease is much more widespread. |
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One thing O thought when the tested the forst 2 and said they would jot be presenting them to the virus. The first trials could run the rest of their lives naturally and never catch the virus.
Secondly, if you have the vaccine and go on to get infected. It is 10 times worse than catching it without vaccine. |
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One thing O thought when the tested the first 2 and said they would not be presenting them to the virus. The first trials could run the rest of their lives naturally and never catch the virus.
Secondly, if you have the vaccine and go on to get infected. It is 10 times worse than catching it without vaccine. |
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"One thing O thought when the tested the first 2 and said they would not be presenting them to the virus. The first trials could run the rest of their lives naturally and never catch the virus.
Secondly, if you have the vaccine and go on to get infected. It is 10 times worse than catching it without vaccine."
Why would it be 10 X worse if you were infected after the vaccine?.... |
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I have forgotten the actual reasoning, but from nurses and doctors who know. Many will tell you if you have had a vaccine for flu and you then get the flu it is 10 times worse than catching it normally. |
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"I have forgotten the actual reasoning, but from nurses and doctors who know. Many will tell you if you have had a vaccine for flu and you then get the flu it is 10 times worse than catching it normally. "
How do they quantify that? |
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"I have forgotten the actual reasoning, but from nurses and doctors who know. Many will tell you if you have had a vaccine for flu and you then get the flu it is 10 times worse than catching it normally. "
That sounds suspiciously like another one of those chinese whispers involving a 'friend who is a nurse' to me. |
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"I have forgotten the actual reasoning, but from nurses and doctors who know. Many will tell you if you have had a vaccine for flu and you then get the flu it is 10 times worse than catching it normally.
How do they quantify that?"
With considerable difficulty, erring on the "they absolutely cannot". Also the above "fact" is a fake fact |
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"I have forgotten the actual reasoning, but from nurses and doctors who know. Many will tell you if you have had a vaccine for flu and you then get the flu it is 10 times worse than catching it normally.
How do they quantify that?
With considerable difficulty, erring on the "they absolutely cannot". Also the above "fact" is a fake fact "
"But if you do get flu after vaccination, it's likely to be milder and shorter-lived than it would otherwise have been."
Taken from the official NHS page on flu jabs (not sure if I'm allowed to link to it), written under coercion from Bill Gates no doubt |
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"I have forgotten the actual reasoning, but from nurses and doctors who know. Many will tell you if you have had a vaccine for flu and you then get the flu it is 10 times worse than catching it normally.
How do they quantify that?
With considerable difficulty, erring on the "they absolutely cannot". Also the above "fact" is a fake fact
"But if you do get flu after vaccination, it's likely to be milder and shorter-lived than it would otherwise have been."
Taken from the official NHS page on flu jabs (not sure if I'm allowed to link to it), written under coercion from Bill Gates no doubt "
Oh Bill Gates funds the NHS. Maybe. Probably. Well, my mate's mum's sister's husband's dog's vet, who is married to a third cousin of Bill Gates told me so. So it's obviously true. Innit. |
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"I have forgotten the actual reasoning, but from nurses and doctors who know. Many will tell you if you have had a vaccine for flu and you then get the flu it is 10 times worse than catching it normally.
How do they quantify that?
With considerable difficulty, erring on the "they absolutely cannot". Also the above "fact" is a fake fact
"But if you do get flu after vaccination, it's likely to be milder and shorter-lived than it would otherwise have been."
Taken from the official NHS page on flu jabs (not sure if I'm allowed to link to it), written under coercion from Bill Gates no doubt
Oh Bill Gates funds the NHS. Maybe. Probably. Well, my mate's mum's sister's husband's dog's vet, who is married to a third cousin of Bill Gates told me so. So it's obviously true. Innit. "
Really truly worrying what people are taking as fact these days, especially when 99% of it is through hearsay. You would have thought that in the 21st century humans as a race would have gained enough intelligence to step away from this herd mentality and develop rational, independent thought. Evidently some people are just more vulnerable than others and will delude themselves in order to make sense of things. It must be comforting in a way to have something to pin it all on, therefore I can't truly blame them... If I didn't have such capacity for logic based reasoning I would probably be fashioning myself a chic as hell tin foil beret as we speak  |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google "
Do you drink diet juice? They contain aspartame. The aspartame conspiracy theorists bang on about how aspartame is made from phenylalanine and methanol. Over time, methanol can produce the known carcinogen formaldehyde. The thing is the the human body produces and uses more than 1,000 times more methanol that you could consume through aspartame. |
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"One thing O thought when the tested the first 2 and said they would not be presenting them to the virus. The first trials could run the rest of their lives naturally and never catch the virus.
Secondly, if you have the vaccine and go on to get infected. It is 10 times worse than catching it without vaccine."
That's why they need to do trials in countries like brazil where infection rate is high. Trials in the uk will show if the body creates antibodies. If the body creates anti bodies we know that, based on many many years of experience, the person will have a better chance of fighting the virus.
As for the 10x..Can you back up your claim with evidence. A link perhaps to a reliable source? |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google "
And you researched this where exactly? Bill Gates has exactly ZERO link to the Oxford vaccine and other than his trust providing money to other research etc...none directly to any other.
Thats if you look at verufied and genuine sources.
Really wish people would stop spreading this ridiculous nonsense. |
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"I have forgotten the actual reasoning, but from nurses and doctors who know. Many will tell you if you have had a vaccine for flu and you then get the flu it is 10 times worse than catching it normally. "
Just checked this with my daughter...a doctor....she said that's nonsense. Just saying. |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google "
Oh that's funny. |
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"I have forgotten the actual reasoning, but from nurses and doctors who know. Many will tell you if you have had a vaccine for flu and you then get the flu it is 10 times worse than catching it normally.
Just checked this with my daughter...a doctor....she said that's nonsense. Just saying."
It is. There’s no live spores in an adult vaccine. There is in a child’s nasal flu though. |
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By *j48Man
over a year ago
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"Read the following today and wondered what people's views were on the subject...
Scientists working on Britain’s best hope for a vaccine are understood to be at odds about whether to deliberately infect healthy patients in order to test it.
Professor Adrian Hill, director of the Jenner Institute at Oxford University, wants to recruit young volunteers for such tests in the hope it will speed up the race for a successful jab.
He is among hundreds of scientists advocating the use of “human challenge trials” which would see healthy people under the age of 30 deliberately infected in order to test the jab.
But Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at the institute, is understood to have clashed with him over his intentions, believing the risk to volunteers is too high."
Why not try it out on the alleged any of the alleged 100's and 100's of new cases being reported reported every day?
They shouldn't be stuck for volunteers, odd that |
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"Read the following today and wondered what people's views were on the subject...
Scientists working on Britain’s best hope for a vaccine are understood to be at odds about whether to deliberately infect healthy patients in order to test it.
Professor Adrian Hill, director of the Jenner Institute at Oxford University, wants to recruit young volunteers for such tests in the hope it will speed up the race for a successful jab.
He is among hundreds of scientists advocating the use of “human challenge trials” which would see healthy people under the age of 30 deliberately infected in order to test the jab.
But Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at the institute, is understood to have clashed with him over his intentions, believing the risk to volunteers is too high.
Why not try it out on the alleged any of the alleged 100's and 100's of new cases being reported reported every day?
They shouldn't be stuck for volunteers, odd that"
Because the vaccine is designed to prevent infection, not treat existing infection. You are supposed to have the vaccine before exposure to the disease. |
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"Read the following today and wondered what people's views were on the subject...
Scientists working on Britain’s best hope for a vaccine are understood to be at odds about whether to deliberately infect healthy patients in order to test it.
Professor Adrian Hill, director of the Jenner Institute at Oxford University, wants to recruit young volunteers for such tests in the hope it will speed up the race for a successful jab.
He is among hundreds of scientists advocating the use of “human challenge trials” which would see healthy people under the age of 30 deliberately infected in order to test the jab.
But Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at the institute, is understood to have clashed with him over his intentions, believing the risk to volunteers is too high.
Why not try it out on the alleged any of the alleged 100's and 100's of new cases being reported reported every day?
They shouldn't be stuck for volunteers, odd that
Because the vaccine is designed to prevent infection, not treat existing infection. You are supposed to have the vaccine before exposure to the disease. "
Odd that  |
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"Read the following today and wondered what people's views were on the subject...
Scientists working on Britain’s best hope for a vaccine are understood to be at odds about whether to deliberately infect healthy patients in order to test it.
Professor Adrian Hill, director of the Jenner Institute at Oxford University, wants to recruit young volunteers for such tests in the hope it will speed up the race for a successful jab.
He is among hundreds of scientists advocating the use of “human challenge trials” which would see healthy people under the age of 30 deliberately infected in order to test the jab.
But Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at the institute, is understood to have clashed with him over his intentions, believing the risk to volunteers is too high.
Why not try it out on the alleged any of the alleged 100's and 100's of new cases being reported reported every day?
They shouldn't be stuck for volunteers, odd that
Because the vaccine is designed to prevent infection, not treat existing infection. You are supposed to have the vaccine before exposure to the disease. "
Fair point..
Buy it from Russia then, apparently Putin has beaten the world. They have a vaccine |
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"You all trust Bill Gates and his vaccines then?? Do you guys even know what they put in them. Mercury and aluminium for 1 they say they need it in. Thise things are poison to humans. Lower chance of dieing from virus than the vaccine it's a no brainer . Wish people would research things and not on google "
Hey mate.
Found your tinfoil hat, it’s neatly rolled up in my kitchen drawer. Let me know where to send it back. |
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"I have forgotten the actual reasoning, but from nurses and doctors who know. Many will tell you if you have had a vaccine for flu and you then get the flu it is 10 times worse than catching it normally. "
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"Read the following today and wondered what people's views were on the subject...
Scientists working on Britain’s best hope for a vaccine are understood to be at odds about whether to deliberately infect healthy patients in order to test it.
Professor Adrian Hill, director of the Jenner Institute at Oxford University, wants to recruit young volunteers for such tests in the hope it will speed up the race for a successful jab.
He is among hundreds of scientists advocating the use of “human challenge trials” which would see healthy people under the age of 30 deliberately infected in order to test the jab.
But Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at the institute, is understood to have clashed with him over his intentions, believing the risk to volunteers is too high.
Why not try it out on the alleged any of the alleged 100's and 100's of new cases being reported reported every day?
They shouldn't be stuck for volunteers, odd that"
Why, when we have some many who choose not to wear masks, or acknowledge there is an issue. The program would be spoiled for choice, there is a broad spectrum of those people to choose from as well. |
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