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watching a BBC news report this morning and seeing all the young people not social distancing and the police admitting they cannot enforce it indoors due to lack of officers. The young drinkers also admitting that they are young and want some fun, resulting in over half of new local infections in the under 35's
Is it time to impose a evening (9pm) alcohol premises curfew before it gets out of control again |
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I watched a similar thing on Sky news. Seems a few of the young ones think it’s now survival of the fittest.
I doubt any more lock downs or curfews will be as effective. Some people just want to get on with it now and not care about the consequences.
The vulnerable must be a little worried now. I’m worried about my Father. |
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over a year ago
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We had a rise to 1000 new cases confirmed yesterday and that’s on a Sunday. This quite possibly could have already got out of hand, the next couple of weeks could be extremely depressing. |
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"I don't know if an evening curfew on drinking is the way forward. It's not as if the virus doesn't spread before 9pm"
Drink and barriers is all I'll say... |
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Yes it is the younger ones who spreads the virus more so than any other age group, they should stop being rebellious teens and just get on with following the distancing rules. |
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"Yes it is the younger ones who spreads the virus more so than any other age group, they should stop being rebellious teens and just get on with following the distancing rules."
Think its across all ages! X |
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"Yes it is the younger ones who spreads the virus more so than any other age group, they should stop being rebellious teens and just get on with following the distancing rules."
Is it though Shag. What about the elderly people who insist on standing near me in queues or refuse to keep to social distancing? |
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"Yes it is the younger ones who spreads the virus more so than any other age group, they should stop being rebellious teens and just get on with following the distancing rules.
Think its across all ages! X"
Yes, but I mostly see the younger ones in groups not doing the distancing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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OK, I'll phrase the question differently.
If they put us back into lockdown but you are allowed back to work would you adhere too it and if not why.
Like Charlie says. 1000 cases on a Sunday is worrying. |
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"Yes it is the younger ones who spreads the virus more so than any other age group, they should stop being rebellious teens and just get on with following the distancing rules.
Is it though Shag. What about the elderly people who insist on standing near me in queues or refuse to keep to social distancing? "
Yes that too, there are always some that does it in all age groups. |
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By *j48Man
over a year ago
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"We had a rise to 1000 new cases confirmed yesterday and that’s on a Sunday. This quite possibly could have already got out of hand, the next couple of weeks could be extremely depressing."
Cases
And?.... |
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"Yes it is the younger ones who spreads the virus more so than any other age group, they should stop being rebellious teens and just get on with following the distancing rules."
Quite agree.
Those pesky rebellious teens should be horse whipped.
I was never a teenager, went straight from a child to a middle aged, bitter and twisted man.
Never did me any harm.  |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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No. Why don’t they tackle the real issues and stop focusing on young people who are neither at risk or infecting anyone. We have a real problem in this country talking about difficult subjects and offending the middle class Marxist / PC left. |
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"We had a rise to 1000 new cases confirmed yesterday and that’s on a Sunday. This quite possibly could have already got out of hand, the next couple of weeks could be extremely depressing.
Cases
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The more cases the more it is spreading. The more it spreads the less chance there is of restrictions being lifted. Peoples ignorance surrounding this is astounding.
More cases less chance of it disappearing. |
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
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Maybe! My 19 year old went to spoons last night with 7 of his friends, rolled in at past midnight. They didn't take any track and trace details from any of them. We've spoken to him numerous times about the virus in general and he really doesn't give a flying fuck   |
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"Maybe! My 19 year old went to spoons last night with 7 of his friends, rolled in at past midnight. They didn't take any track and trace details from any of them. We've spoken to him numerous times about the virus in general and he really doesn't give a flying fuck "
When you're 19 you're invincible.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Absolutely not, STASI pish! I can't believe that people who believe themselves to be Libertarians are calling for such draconian measures.
We've given up too many freedoms in the name of the great new religion called Covid.
That the culturally Marxist BBC are suggesting such an agenda doesn't surprise me.
We're being led like sheep into this massive distopia from which we may never escape.
Besides, who's going to enforce a curfew, the army maybe, let's all go along with Martial Law, then, at which point, do you think we'll get any of our freedom back? |
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No. People are just wanting to move on with life now. Vounerable people need to take some responsibility and make sure they keep their distance. Its not upto the majority to protect the minority. If everyone keeps hiding away we will end up stuck like this forever |
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"No. People are just wanting to move on with life now. Vounerable people need to take some responsibility and make sure they keep their distance. Its not upto the majority to protect the minority. If everyone keeps hiding away we will end up stuck like this forever"
Vulnerable people are taking responsibility, what makes you think they aren't?
Personally I think it's very much up to the majority to protect the minority. |
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"No. People are just wanting to move on with life now. Vounerable people need to take some responsibility and make sure they keep their distance. Its not upto the majority to protect the minority. If everyone keeps hiding away we will end up stuck like this forever
Vulnerable people are taking responsibility, what makes you think they aren't?
Personally I think it's very much up to the majority to protect the minority."
the old people walking upto me in shops to reach past me instead of waiting like everyone else for one example. At this point its survival of the fittest. If its going to kill you then staybaway from everyone else.. if its going to give you mild flu you might aswell just get it and be done with it. I have been desensitised to the whole thing as i like many others have worked through the whole thing in a job where social distancing is impossible |
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"I don't know if an evening curfew on drinking is the way forward. It's not as if the virus doesn't spread before 9pm"
Its more quantity of alcohol consumption, a few up to 9pm rather than 10 pints up to midnight, the report said that later in the night was the problem time of no social distancing.
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"No. People are just wanting to move on with life now. Vounerable people need to take some responsibility and make sure they keep their distance. Its not upto the majority to protect the minority. If everyone keeps hiding away we will end up stuck like this forever"
What people want and what actually happens in reality aren't always the same. Every part of society has a duty to help prevent deaths. What you are missing is that if everyone did everything they could, rather than trying to find a loophole or just blatantly ignoring rules then we would be able to move back to a more normal way of life quicker. The more people just carry on, the more will die and the more disruption there will be to society. Those who are vulnerable are a much bigger and more important part of society and the economy than you seem to realise. |
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
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"Maybe! My 19 year old went to spoons last night with 7 of his friends, rolled in at past midnight. They didn't take any track and trace details from any of them. We've spoken to him numerous times about the virus in general and he really doesn't give a flying fuck
When you're 19 you're invincible.
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Him and his friends certainly think so! |
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Bring it on can't wait to be in a police chase pinned to the ground and put in jail for taking dog a walk at 9pm the pay out for compensation in 5 years time when everything the goverment does starts getting scrutinised and investigated will be amazing and I have always wanted a boat in the Mediterranean so could be handy. |
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"No. People are just wanting to move on with life now. Vounerable people need to take some responsibility and make sure they keep their distance. Its not upto the majority to protect the minority. If everyone keeps hiding away we will end up stuck like this forever
Vulnerable people are taking responsibility, what makes you think they aren't?
Personally I think it's very much up to the majority to protect the minority. the old people walking upto me in shops to reach past me instead of waiting like everyone else for one example. At this point its survival of the fittest. If its going to kill you then staybaway from everyone else.. if its going to give you mild flu you might aswell just get it and be done with it. I have been desensitised to the whole thing as i like many others have worked through the whole thing in a job where social distancing is impossible"
Then you have my sympathy because it must be bloody awful and soul destroying.
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"I don't know if an evening curfew on drinking is the way forward. It's not as if the virus doesn't spread before 9pm
Its more quantity of alcohol consumption, a few up to 9pm rather than 10 pints up to midnight, the report said that later in the night was the problem time of no social distancing.
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I can understand that. I can see the thinking behind it but I can only imagine the uproar. |
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What people want and what actually happens in reality aren't always the same. Every part of society has a duty to help prevent deaths. What you are missing is that if everyone did everything they could, rather than trying to find a loophole or just blatantly ignoring rules then we would be able to move back to a more normal way of life quicker. The more people just carry on, the more will die and the more disruption there will be to society. Those who are vulnerable are a much bigger and more important part of society and the economy than you seem to realise.
So answer me this honestly.. why should the whole country grind to a halt to save 0.2% of the population that mostly stay in the house anyway because they are either old or in care homes? I wasnt allowed to go out running for weeks incase some old person wanted to go to the shop |
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"Maybe! My 19 year old went to spoons last night with 7 of his friends, rolled in at past midnight. They didn't take any track and trace details from any of them. We've spoken to him numerous times about the virus in general and he really doesn't give a flying fuck
When you're 19 you're invincible.
Him and his friends certainly think so! "
Lol. I know I was pretty much convinced of my immortality at 19 |
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"Bring it on can't wait to be in a police chase pinned to the ground and put in jail for taking dog a walk at 9pm the pay out for compensation in 5 years time when everything the goverment does starts getting scrutinised and investigated will be amazing and I have always wanted a boat in the Mediterranean so could be handy."
I don't think 9pm drinks curfew will prevent you walking your dog |
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"What people want and what actually happens in reality aren't always the same. Every part of society has a duty to help prevent deaths. What you are missing is that if everyone did everything they could, rather than trying to find a loophole or just blatantly ignoring rules then we would be able to move back to a more normal way of life quicker. The more people just carry on, the more will die and the more disruption there will be to society. Those who are vulnerable are a much bigger and more important part of society and the economy than you seem to realise.
So answer me this honestly.. why should the whole country grind to a halt to save 0.2% of the population that mostly stay in the house anyway because they are either old or in care homes? I wasnt allowed to go out running for weeks incase some old person wanted to go to the shop"
You are not understanding the definition of a vulnerable person. Age is only part of it, what about the 30 year old who has asthma but makes the loaf of bread you just ate, or the 20 that had a kidney transplant but made sure you got paid last month. The whole country doesn't have to grind to a halt if people are prepared to accept that there will be things they need to do differently or can't do for a short period of time. The more people ignore this the longer the disruption will be. No one likes being in this situation, but stamping your feet and going I've had enough I want to get back to normal doesn't fix anything. |
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"We had a rise to 1000 new cases confirmed yesterday and that’s on a Sunday. This quite possibly could have already got out of hand, the next couple of weeks could be extremely depressing.
Cases
And?....
The more cases the more it is spreading. The more it spreads the less chance there is of restrictions being lifted. Peoples ignorance surrounding this is astounding.
More cases less chance of it disappearing. "
What is the current test positivity percentage compared to June ? |
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You are not understanding the definition of a vulnerable person. Age is only part of it, what about the 30 year old who has asthma but makes the loaf of bread you just ate, or the 20 that had a kidney transplant but made sure you got paid last month. The whole country doesn't have to grind to a halt if people are prepared to accept that there will be things they need to do differently or can't do for a short period of time. The more people ignore this the longer the disruption will be. No one likes being in this situation, but stamping your feet and going I've had enough I want to get back to normal doesn't fix anything. "
The person with the kidney transplant should be working from home and not leaving the house, the person whith asthma should be making sure they stay 2m away from everyone. Its not my job to look after you. Its your job to make sure you dont come into contact with the virus. I dont get why so many people cant grasp what im saying.. ill say it one last time its not my job to protect those that cant be arsed protecting themselves.. plus look at it like this.. if we had left it to ravage through the country at the start and let darwinism take its course.. what would the strain be like on the nhs etc when the vounerable were gone? Its not pretty but its realistic |
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You are not understanding the definition of a vulnerable person. Age is only part of it, what about the 30 year old who has asthma but makes the loaf of bread you just ate, or the 20 that had a kidney transplant but made sure you got paid last month. The whole country doesn't have to grind to a halt if people are prepared to accept that there will be things they need to do differently or can't do for a short period of time. The more people ignore this the longer the disruption will be. No one likes being in this situation, but stamping your feet and going I've had enough I want to get back to normal doesn't fix anything.
The person with the kidney transplant should be working from home and not leaving the house, the person whith asthma should be making sure they stay 2m away from everyone. Its not my job to look after you. Its your job to make sure you dont come into contact with the virus. I dont get why so many people cant grasp what im saying.. ill say it one last time its not my job to protect those that cant be arsed protecting themselves.. plus look at it like this.. if we had left it to ravage through the country at the start and let darwinism take its course.. what would the strain be like on the nhs etc when the vounerable were gone? Its not pretty but its realistic"
It is your job to do what you can so that we don't have to write off a big chunk of people. If you just want a numbers game, then fine, bring in genocide and kill off all the weak and the "inferior" and there will be many less people after (and a lot of things that don't get done anymore as a result). Morally that sounds rather like what was tried in WW2 to me. Better hope that your, "I'm fine so stuff the rest of you" plan doesn't come unstuck if you suddenly find you have an undiagnosed health condition that puts you on the other side of the fence. |
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"No. People are just wanting to move on with life now. Vounerable people need to take some responsibility and make sure they keep their distance. Its not upto the majority to protect the minority. If everyone keeps hiding away we will end up stuck like this forever
Vulnerable people are taking responsibility, what makes you think they aren't?
Personally I think it's very much up to the majority to protect the minority."
I tend to like living in a society where the majority feel it's a duty to look after the vulnerable and minority.
If not, why not gas all the old fuckers in nursing homes and have done with it, would hate for young people to feel any sort of obligation to elderly folk, cos what the fuck have old people ever done for us....oh yeah, there was that war thingy some of them did..  |
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It is your job to do what you can so that we don't have to write off a big chunk of people. If you just want a numbers game, then fine, bring in genocide and kill off all the weak and the "inferior" and there will be many less people after (and a lot of things that don't get done anymore as a result). Morally that sounds rather like what was tried in WW2 to me. Better hope that your, "I'm fine so stuff the rest of you" plan doesn't come unstuck if you suddenly find you have an undiagnosed health condition that puts you on the other side of the fence."
To be honest with you ill pay my money and take my chance. If i do have some undiagnosed condition and im culled then so be it. Ive got life insurance. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"watching a BBC news report this morning and seeing all the young people not social distancing and the police admitting they cannot enforce it indoors due to lack of officers. The young drinkers also admitting that they are young and want some fun, resulting in over half of new local infections in the under 35's
Is it time to impose a evening (9pm) alcohol premises curfew before it gets out of control again"
In areas where the spike is big yes especially in seaside resorts but not a blanket cerfew.Scotland has done and I think a good idea.Also Pubs not reinforcing rules closed down,licence removed.We are to soft in this country. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
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"What people want and what actually happens in reality aren't always the same. Every part of society has a duty to help prevent deaths. What you are missing is that if everyone did everything they could, rather than trying to find a loophole or just blatantly ignoring rules then we would be able to move back to a more normal way of life quicker. The more people just carry on, the more will die and the more disruption there will be to society. Those who are vulnerable are a much bigger and more important part of society and the economy than you seem to realise.
So answer me this honestly.. why should the whole country grind to a halt to save 0.2% of the population that mostly stay in the house anyway because they are either old or in care homes? I wasnt allowed to go out running for weeks incase some old person wanted to go to the shop"
Most people do not die of covid but they can get very sick and have nasty after effects.hTis takes up valuable resources of the NHS and other treatments are not being dealt with and costs a fortune |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
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"I don't know if an evening curfew on drinking is the way forward. It's not as if the virus doesn't spread before 9pm
Its more quantity of alcohol consumption, a few up to 9pm rather than 10 pints up to midnight, the report said that later in the night was the problem time of no social distancing.
I can understand that. I can see the thinking behind it but I can only imagine the uproar."
So people complain big deal we need to beat the virus. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
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"Can you imagine the outrage!? 
I'm interested that they've been able to make these inferences in such a short time."
People are angry here that you condemn meeting yet you do it moderator,why to stop spread of virus no difference |
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"Most people do not die of covid but they can get very sick and have nasty after effects.hTis takes up valuable resources of the NHS and other treatments are not being dealt with and costs a fortune"
So let me get your position clear on this.. you would rather the whole country go into lockdown again crippling the economy and destroying everyones lives, or do what i would do. Open everything back up, go on as normal and take the death toll as colateral damage? |
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"No body is staying in my neighbours are in the 80s and had a party the other night "
This exactly!! This is why i believe in self preservation. Its not upto me to save the stupid. People need to realise if you die from covid YOU allowed yourself to catch it.. not the other people that you got close to |
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It is your job to do what you can so that we don't have to write off a big chunk of people. If you just want a numbers game, then fine, bring in genocide and kill off all the weak and the "inferior" and there will be many less people after (and a lot of things that don't get done anymore as a result). Morally that sounds rather like what was tried in WW2 to me. Better hope that your, "I'm fine so stuff the rest of you" plan doesn't come unstuck if you suddenly find you have an undiagnosed health condition that puts you on the other side of the fence.
To be honest with you ill pay my money and take my chance. If i do have some undiagnosed condition and im culled then so be it. Ive got life insurance. "
We could turn your idea on its head. Those who won't help protect society could be rounded up and disposed of. The overall death toll would be less then. |
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We could turn your idea on its head. Those who won't help protect society could be rounded up and disposed of. The overall death toll would be less then. "
Well you see thats just proved exactly what type of person you are. I was talking about darwinism and the survival of the fittest, and you are talking about genocide by singling out an individual group to be culled. I think my point has been proved |
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"Can you imagine the outrage!?
I'm interested that they've been able to make these inferences in such a short time.People are angry here that you condemn meeting yet you do it moderator,why to stop spread of virus no difference"
I'm neither for nor against a curfew I don't have the information to make that decision.
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Absolutely not. Unless you'd like to keep willingly give up your freedoms until you find yourself in some Orwellian totalitarian state 
For real though I'd wonder how real the numbers of these new under 45's cases are.
I saw a headline recently. "67 new cases. The median age being 45. 75% of cases were under 45."
Now I don't know how well you get on with math but something there is very wrong  |
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We could turn your idea on its head. Those who won't help protect society could be rounded up and disposed of. The overall death toll would be less then.
Well you see thats just proved exactly what type of person you are. I was talking about darwinism and the survival of the fittest, and you are talking about genocide by singling out an individual group to be culled. I think my point has been proved"
No, you wanted to play a numbers game, I am willing to bet there are more vulnerable and those that wish to protect them, than there are of those who just want to write them off. |
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Now I'm not saying one way or the other but is it not strange that if your country was to go to war everyone would be okay with thousands of young people potentially losing their lives for the greater good of the nation.
Yet in this case the greater good of nations is put aside over a mild virus with a 1% death rate?
Food for thought maybe.. |
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No, you wanted to play a numbers game, I am willing to bet there are more vulnerable and those that wish to protect them, than there are of those who just want to write them off.
I think ull find my point at the very start was why dont the vounerable take responsibility for their own actions? If they catch covid its because they allowed themselves to be in a position to catch it from someone.. me going about my life as normal wont affect anyone that stays away from others.. that was my point but aparently iv3 got to sweat my balls off in a mask because people that could die of it cant be arsed to stay away from me |
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"Now I'm not saying one way or the other but is it not strange that if your country was to go to war everyone would be okay with thousands of young people potentially losing their lives for the greater good of the nation.
Yet in this case the greater good of nations is put aside over a mild virus with a 1% death rate?
Food for thought maybe.. "
Glad someone else thinks the same as me.. its more like 0.02% |
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We could turn your idea on its head. Those who won't help protect society could be rounded up and disposed of. The overall death toll would be less then.
Well you see thats just proved exactly what type of person you are. I was talking about darwinism and the survival of the fittest, and you are talking about genocide by singling out an individual group to be culled. I think my point has been proved
No, you wanted to play a numbers game, I am willing to bet there are more vulnerable and those that wish to protect them, than there are of those who just want to write them off. "
I absolutemy agree that there are vunerable people thats needs protecting.
We need to increase their immune health.
We need to provide them with proper nutrition. Sunlight. Human touch. Joy and laughter.
Unless there are proper scientific irrefutable evidenxe that viruses do what its claimed they do, then all tis is pure and simple fear mongering. Instilling fear so that you submit to whatever they ask of you.
Do you want the future to be like te film Equilibrium where the only emotion allowed is fear? |
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"Now I'm not saying one way or the other but is it not strange that if your country was to go to war everyone would be okay with thousands of young people potentially losing their lives for the greater good of the nation.
Yet in this case the greater good of nations is put aside over a mild virus with a 1% death rate?
Food for thought maybe..
Glad someone else thinks the same as me.. its more like 0.02%"
Yeah latest figures shows increased rate of recovery.  |
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"Now I'm not saying one way or the other but is it not strange that if your country was to go to war everyone would be okay with thousands of young people potentially losing their lives for the greater good of the nation.
Yet in this case the greater good of nations is put aside over a mild virus with a 1% death rate?
Food for thought maybe..
Glad someone else thinks the same as me.. its more like 0.02%"
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"Now I'm not saying one way or the other but is it not strange that if your country was to go to war everyone would be okay with thousands of young people potentially losing their lives for the greater good of the nation.
Yet in this case the greater good of nations is put aside over a mild virus with a 1% death rate?
Food for thought maybe.. "
One they chose to serve in the army and yes I'd enlist if it came to that. Two it is not a final 1% death rate, we haven't even come close to what this virus is capable of yet, no one can say anything for any certainty until we have completed a full year of all seasons and the data is compiled for analysis.
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No, you wanted to play a numbers game, I am willing to bet there are more vulnerable and those that wish to protect them, than there are of those who just want to write them off.
I think ull find my point at the very start was why dont the vounerable take responsibility for their own actions? If they catch covid its because they allowed themselves to be in a position to catch it from someone.. me going about my life as normal wont affect anyone that stays away from others.. that was my point but aparently iv3 got to sweat my balls off in a mask because people that could die of it cant be arsed to stay away from me"
So your argument is basically if you're vulnerable, stay away from me because I'm not going to do anything in my life to protect you because my needs take priority over yours? What about their right to go shopping for food, should they leave the isle in the supermarket if you arrive so that they don't inconvenience you by making you wait to shop? I'm assuming you'll actually let them come out for food, after all, they can't have it delivered because that would mean "strong" people would have to be inconvenienced by having to deliver it to them. |
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So your argument is basically if you're vulnerable, stay away from me because I'm not going to do anything in my life to protect you because my needs take priority over yours? What about their right to go shopping for food, should they leave the isle in the supermarket if you arrive so that they don't inconvenience you by making you wait to shop? I'm assuming you'll actually let them come out for food, after all, they can't have it delivered because that would mean "strong" people would have to be inconvenienced by having to deliver it to them."
Yes and no. But im sure if were in a supermarket and im looking at sat beans.. you can wait 2m away until ive finished looking before you reach in for a tin. Which is the exact opposite that i have seen when im out and about.. old people normally in 2s bimbling around reaching past people or just generally loitering. And yes if you ask me am i more important than a stranger then yes in my opinion i am. If the vounerable thought the same then they would social distance without any input from me and would be perfectly fine |
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"Bring it on can't wait to be in a police chase pinned to the ground and put in jail for taking dog a walk at 9pm the pay out for compensation in 5 years time when everything the goverment does starts getting scrutinised and investigated will be amazing and I have always wanted a boat in the Mediterranean so could be handy.
I don't think 9pm drinks curfew will prevent you walking your dog"
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"Reopening the pubs was a stupid idea.
It was obvious what was going to happen when you add alcohol to the concept of social distancing and we're now seeing the consequences of that decision. "
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"Now I'm not saying one way or the other but is it not strange that if your country was to go to war everyone would be okay with thousands of young people potentially losing their lives for the greater good of the nation.
Yet in this case the greater good of nations is put aside over a mild virus with a 1% death rate?
Food for thought maybe.. "
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So your argument is basically if you're vulnerable, stay away from me because I'm not going to do anything in my life to protect you because my needs take priority over yours? What about their right to go shopping for food, should they leave the isle in the supermarket if you arrive so that they don't inconvenience you by making you wait to shop? I'm assuming you'll actually let them come out for food, after all, they can't have it delivered because that would mean "strong" people would have to be inconvenienced by having to deliver it to them.
Yes and no. But im sure if were in a supermarket and im looking at sat beans.. you can wait 2m away until ive finished looking before you reach in for a tin. Which is the exact opposite that i have seen when im out and about.. old people normally in 2s bimbling around reaching past people or just generally loitering. And yes if you ask me am i more important than a stranger then yes in my opinion i am. If the vounerable thought the same then they would social distance without any input from me and would be perfectly fine"
So you are happy to make them wait but you won't? Can you not see, this attitude is the cause of so many problems, if you met your doppelganger, you would both refuse to make any compromise and would both end up pushing past each other or demanding the other one waited. Everyone has to make some compromise for us all to get through this, things like a mask is such a trivial thing to do and in such a limited number of circumstances at the moment, but if people won't do these things, then the next step will be more severe and the one after that more so, it ends up being a vicious circle. |
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Pubs will be closed again, some shops too and we will be back in lockdown nationally by the end of August !
People of all ages are stupid, a friend sent me a picture of the south bay beach in scarborough yesterday - no masks, no distancing, no self control just stupidity !
WHY ? ? ? |
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By *D835Man
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"Now I'm not saying one way or the other but is it not strange that if your country was to go to war everyone would be okay with thousands of young people potentially losing their lives for the greater good of the nation.
Yet in this case the greater good of nations is put aside over a mild virus with a 1% death rate?
Food for thought maybe..
Glad someone else thinks the same as me.. its more like 0.02%"
0.02% ??
That would be true if you assume the whole population was infected, and that is certainly not the case.
You calculate the death rate by looking at the total number infections v the number of deaths. |
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So you are happy to make them wait but you won't? Can you not see, this attitude is the cause of so many problems, if you met your doppelganger, you would both refuse to make any compromise and would both end up pushing past each other or demanding the other one waited. Everyone has to make some compromise for us all to get through this, things like a mask is such a trivial thing to do and in such a limited number of circumstances at the moment, but if people won't do these things, then the next step will be more severe and the one after that more so, it ends up being a vicious circle."
to be honest with you im never going to change my opinion no matter how hard you try to make me feel bad or see the error of my ways. Trust me i think exactly the same about your argument as you do about mine. So why dont we just disagree and move on. Ill keep doing what im doing and you can go put your cape on and protect the weak |
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So you are happy to make them wait but you won't? Can you not see, this attitude is the cause of so many problems, if you met your doppelganger, you would both refuse to make any compromise and would both end up pushing past each other or demanding the other one waited. Everyone has to make some compromise for us all to get through this, things like a mask is such a trivial thing to do and in such a limited number of circumstances at the moment, but if people won't do these things, then the next step will be more severe and the one after that more so, it ends up being a vicious circle. to be honest with you im never going to change my opinion no matter how hard you try to make me feel bad or see the error of my ways. Trust me i think exactly the same about your argument as you do about mine. So why dont we just disagree and move on. Ill keep doing what im doing and you can go put your cape on and protect the weak"
In which case, I'd make a suggestion to prepare yourself for a huge amount more disruption to your lifestyle as there will come a point when the asking nicely approach has failed and there will be inevitable real enforcement. |
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"I watched a similar thing on Sky news. Seems a few of the young ones think it’s now survival of the fittest.
I doubt any more lock downs or curfews will be as effective. Some people just want to get on with it now and not care about the consequences.
The vulnerable must be a little worried now. I’m worried about my Father. "
I'll ask
Why are you worried about your father?
If he practices good hygiene and assumes everyone he meets and everything he touches is infected he will be fine
Pretending others playing lip service to protecting the vulnerable is safe without making suitable personal precautions is foolish self defeating and futile
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So you are happy to make them wait but you won't? Can you not see, this attitude is the cause of so many problems, if you met your doppelganger, you would both refuse to make any compromise and would both end up pushing past each other or demanding the other one waited. Everyone has to make some compromise for us all to get through this, things like a mask is such a trivial thing to do and in such a limited number of circumstances at the moment, but if people won't do these things, then the next step will be more severe and the one after that more so, it ends up being a vicious circle. to be honest with you im never going to change my opinion no matter how hard you try to make me feel bad or see the error of my ways. Trust me i think exactly the same about your argument as you do about mine. So why dont we just disagree and move on. Ill keep doing what im doing and you can go put your cape on and protect the weak"
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"I watched a similar thing on Sky news. Seems a few of the young ones think it’s now survival of the fittest.
I doubt any more lock downs or curfews will be as effective. Some people just want to get on with it now and not care about the consequences.
The vulnerable must be a little worried now. I’m worried about my Father.
I'll ask
Why are you worried about your father?
If he practices good hygiene and assumes everyone he meets and everything he touches is infected he will be fine
Pretending others playing lip service to protecting the vulnerable is safe without making suitable personal precautions is foolish self defeating and futile
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Because he has been shielding since it started and has been advised to carry on shielding.
The isolation takes its toll that’s why I’m worried.
Not sure what your last paragraph is on about or who is pretending. |
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"watching a BBC news report this morning and seeing all the young people not social distancing and the police admitting they cannot enforce it indoors due to lack of officers. The young drinkers also admitting that they are young and want some fun, resulting in over half of new local infections in the under 35's
Is it time to impose a evening (9pm) alcohol premises curfew before it gets out of control again"
Not at all there low risk let the live there life's..
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"We had a rise to 1000 new cases confirmed yesterday and that’s on a Sunday. This quite possibly could have already got out of hand, the next couple of weeks could be extremely depressing."
Most of this will be down to extra testing taking place rather than and increasing cases |
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No, you wanted to play a numbers game, I am willing to bet there are more vulnerable and those that wish to protect them, than there are of those who just want to write them off.
I think ull find my point at the very start was why dont the vounerable take responsibility for their own actions? If they catch covid its because they allowed themselves to be in a position to catch it from someone.. me going about my life as normal wont affect anyone that stays away from others.. that was my point but aparently iv3 got to sweat my balls off in a mask because people that could die of it cant be arsed to stay away from me"
I get u totally! Even being one of those that are in the vulnerable bracket (having asthma being diabetic and 63) if this over 50s staying in come about I would expect a get out clause and tbh it would have been so much better if they had a lockdown on the vulnerable to start with! Back at start obviously with a get out clause so the rest of yous could go about ur normal life x |
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"Yes it is the younger ones who spreads the virus more so than any other age group, they should stop being rebellious teens and just get on with following the distancing rules."
Maybe the high risk should stay away from the low risk if there that worried.. |
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"We had a rise to 1000 new cases confirmed yesterday and that’s on a Sunday. This quite possibly could have already got out of hand, the next couple of weeks could be extremely depressing.
Cases
And?....
The more cases the more it is spreading. The more it spreads the less chance there is of restrictions being lifted. Peoples ignorance surrounding this is astounding.
More cases less chance of it disappearing. "
There is a great deal of evidence the virus has been spreading around the UK since before Christmas many undiagnosed cases around Oxford area time does not make the virus go away or disappears it just levels the spank..
Lockdown is largely pointless for the mass majority of people. |
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By *m389Man
over a year ago
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You need to be clear on what you mean by death rate and what conclusion you draw from it.
The chances of you dying from an airplane crash is very low. But that doesn’t mean that airplane crashes aren’t deadly, quite the contrary they will likely kill everyone on board.
However the chances of you being in a plane that ends up having a fatal issue leading to a crash is very low. And that is due to excellent safety procedures.
If the airline industry started being lax on checks and safety. For example not regularly inspecting aircraft for defects, not maintaining aircrafts then the chances of you being on a flight that develops a fatal issue increases.
The chances of dying if you had COVID looks to be around 4%. But your chances of getting it in the first place is low thanks to the measures we have taken. However that can change very quickly if it was allowed to spread like wild fire.
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By *D835Man
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"We had a rise to 1000 new cases confirmed yesterday and that’s on a Sunday. This quite possibly could have already got out of hand, the next couple of weeks could be extremely depressing.
Cases
And?....
The more cases the more it is spreading. The more it spreads the less chance there is of restrictions being lifted. Peoples ignorance surrounding this is astounding.
More cases less chance of it disappearing.
There is a great deal of evidence the virus has been spreading around the UK since before Christmas many undiagnosed cases around Oxford area time does not make the virus go away or disappears it just levels the spank..
Lockdown is largely pointless for the mass majority of people."
**"....time does not make the virus go away..."**
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Time doesn't make it go away, but taking measures to control it will reduce it from spreading exponentially.
Lock down and post lockdown measures contribute to why less people are dying from the virus now compared to the numbers that were dying between March to June this year. |
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"You need to be clear on what you mean by death rate and what conclusion you draw from it.
The chances of you dying from an airplane crash is very low. But that doesn’t mean that airplane crashes aren’t deadly, quite the contrary they will likely kill everyone on board.
However the chances of you being in a plane that ends up having a fatal issue leading to a crash is very low. And that is due to excellent safety procedures.
If the airline industry started being lax on checks and safety. For example not regularly inspecting aircraft for defects, not maintaining aircrafts then the chances of you being on a flight that develops a fatal issue increases.
The chances of dying if you had COVID looks to be around 4%. But your chances of getting it in the first place is low thanks to the measures we have taken. However that can change very quickly if it was allowed to spread like wild fire.
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"We had a rise to 1000 new cases confirmed yesterday and that’s on a Sunday. This quite possibly could have already got out of hand, the next couple of weeks could be extremely depressing.
Cases
And?....
The more cases the more it is spreading. The more it spreads the less chance there is of restrictions being lifted. Peoples ignorance surrounding this is astounding.
More cases less chance of it disappearing.
There is a great deal of evidence the virus has been spreading around the UK since before Christmas many undiagnosed cases around Oxford area time does not make the virus go away or disappears it just levels the spank..
Lockdown is largely pointless for the mass majority of people.
**"....time does not make the virus go away..."**
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Time doesn't make it go away, but taking measures to control it will reduce it from spreading exponentially.
Lock down and post lockdown measures contribute to why less people are dying from the virus now compared to the numbers that were dying between March to June this year."
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"You need to be clear on what you mean by death rate and what conclusion you draw from it.
The chances of you dying from an airplane crash is very low. But that doesn’t mean that airplane crashes aren’t deadly, quite the contrary they will likely kill everyone on board.
However the chances of you being in a plane that ends up having a fatal issue leading to a crash is very low. And that is due to excellent safety procedures.
If the airline industry started being lax on checks and safety. For example not regularly inspecting aircraft for defects, not maintaining aircrafts then the chances of you being on a flight that develops a fatal issue increases.
The chances of dying if you had COVID looks to be around 4%. But your chances of getting it in the first place is low thanks to the measures we have taken. However that can change very quickly if it was allowed to spread like wild fire.
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"watching a BBC news report this morning and seeing all the young people not social distancing and the police admitting they cannot enforce it indoors due to lack of officers. The young drinkers also admitting that they are young and want some fun, resulting in over half of new local infections in the under 35's
Is it time to impose a evening (9pm) alcohol premises curfew before it gets out of control again"
Yes please mein fuhrer! |
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"OK, I'll phrase the question differently.
If they put us back into lockdown but you are allowed back to work would you adhere too it and if not why. "
I would, I bloody loved it |
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"You need to be clear on what you mean by death rate and what conclusion you draw from it.
The chances of you dying from an airplane crash is very low. But that doesn’t mean that airplane crashes aren’t deadly, quite the contrary they will likely kill everyone on board.
However the chances of you being in a plane that ends up having a fatal issue leading to a crash is very low. And that is due to excellent safety procedures.
If the airline industry started being lax on checks and safety. For example not regularly inspecting aircraft for defects, not maintaining aircrafts then the chances of you being on a flight that develops a fatal issue increases.
The chances of dying if you had COVID looks to be around 4%. But your chances of getting it in the first place is low thanks to the measures we have taken. However that can change very quickly if it was allowed to spread like wild fire.
Excellent point "
Lots countries do not have the same rigorous and check necessarily to operate a airline as in the UK still you do not see planes falling out the sky.. |
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"OK, I'll phrase the question differently.
If they put us back into lockdown but you are allowed back to work would you adhere too it and if not why.
Like Charlie says. 1000 cases on a Sunday is worrying. "
As long as the death rate and hospitalisations are going down, the cases can be that high. |
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"You need to be clear on what you mean by death rate and what conclusion you draw from it.
The chances of you dying from an airplane crash is very low. But that doesn’t mean that airplane crashes aren’t deadly, quite the contrary they will likely kill everyone on board.
However the chances of you being in a plane that ends up having a fatal issue leading to a crash is very low. And that is due to excellent safety procedures.
If the airline industry started being lax on checks and safety. For example not regularly inspecting aircraft for defects, not maintaining aircrafts then the chances of you being on a flight that develops a fatal issue increases.
The chances of dying if you had COVID looks to be around 4%. But your chances of getting it in the first place is low thanks to the measures we have taken. However that can change very quickly if it was allowed to spread like wild fire.
Excellent point
Lots countries do not have the same rigorous and check necessarily to operate a airline as in the UK still you do not see planes falling out the sky.."
Except there are a number of plane crashes that have been directly attributable to poor maintenance. |
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"You need to be clear on what you mean by death rate and what conclusion you draw from it.
The chances of you dying from an airplane crash is very low. But that doesn’t mean that airplane crashes aren’t deadly, quite the contrary they will likely kill everyone on board.
However the chances of you being in a plane that ends up having a fatal issue leading to a crash is very low. And that is due to excellent safety procedures.
If the airline industry started being lax on checks and safety. For example not regularly inspecting aircraft for defects, not maintaining aircrafts then the chances of you being on a flight that develops a fatal issue increases.
The chances of dying if you had COVID looks to be around 4%. But your chances of getting it in the first place is low thanks to the measures we have taken. However that can change very quickly if it was allowed to spread like wild fire.
Excellent point
Lots countries do not have the same rigorous and check necessarily to operate a airline as in the UK still you do not see planes falling out the sky.."
**"...Lots countries do not have the same rigorous and check necessarily to operate a airline as in the UK still you do not see planes falling out the sky..."**
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You will find that those countries which do not have the rigorous checks have far fewer planes in operation compared to the UK.
So the probability of seeing one of their planes fall from the sky will be low since they have only a very small number of aircraft compared to the UK. If they had the same number of aircraft like the UK, but did not maintain them to the same safety standards as the UK, then you will hear more reports of their planes falling from the sky.
To put what I said into perspective; British Airways has a fleet of around 247 planes, whereas some countries in Africa have only 2 planes in their fleet. |
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"Yes it is the younger ones who spreads the virus more so than any other age group, they should stop being rebellious teens and just get on with following the distancing rules.
Is it though Shag. What about the elderly people who insist on standing near me in queues or refuse to keep to social distancing? "
It’s all ages and to be fair I was in a restaurant Saturday night where my daughter works so had a table well away from anyone else and what surprised me was the 50ish year old woman were the worst than any of the younger ones. The lads ok were sat a bit close to each other but the older women were the worst - group of 12 on top of each other all kissing and hugging each time a new one turned up not a shred of thought for social distancing  |
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"Absolutely not, STASI pish! I can't believe that people who believe themselves to be Libertarians are calling for such draconian measures.
We've given up too many freedoms in the name of the great new religion called Covid.
That the culturally Marxist BBC are suggesting such an agenda doesn't surprise me.
We're being led like sheep into this massive distopia from which we may never escape.
Besides, who's going to enforce a curfew, the army maybe, let's all go along with Martial Law, then, at which point, do you think we'll get any of our freedom back? "
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"OK, I'll phrase the question differently.
If they put us back into lockdown but you are allowed back to work would you adhere too it and if not why.
Like Charlie says. 1000 cases on a Sunday is worrying.
As long as the death rate and hospitalisations are going down, the cases can be that high."
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But if we can get the cases to move from 1000 a day down to 5 a day; it will allow for more sectors of the economy to open up, and lead to less restrictions imposed on us. |
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Interesting post, don't see the point of a curfew or another lock down because as the comments of the younger generation on here show, "They don't give two fucks, about their parents or grand parents". Most are showing the selfish attitudes that is bringing society down. However before you selfish brats respond. Remember this, the bulk of jobs in this country are being done by the older generation, with years being added to pensionable ages so you scrots can enjoy your early years at college and uni having not paid a penny in. Will be a interesting country with a llthe tax payers dead and no money to keep you happy. Have a good day. Oh also remember such deseases regenerate into far greater killers if not isolated and dealt with. So who knows the next wave of deaths just might be spread over all age groups. |
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"You need to be clear on what you mean by death rate and what conclusion you draw from it.
The chances of you dying from an airplane crash is very low. But that doesn’t mean that airplane crashes aren’t deadly, quite the contrary they will likely kill everyone on board.
However the chances of you being in a plane that ends up having a fatal issue leading to a crash is very low. And that is due to excellent safety procedures.
If the airline industry started being lax on checks and safety. For example not regularly inspecting aircraft for defects, not maintaining aircrafts then the chances of you being on a flight that develops a fatal issue increases.
The chances of dying if you had COVID looks to be around 4%. But your chances of getting it in the first place is low thanks to the measures we have taken. However that can change very quickly if it was allowed to spread like wild fire.
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I'm guessing that people who have the mindset to break the guidelines, would continue the same behaviour in other contexts, if they were to be limited. People could congregate in many different places, with or without alcohol and at any time of the day. I'm inclined towards not changing opening hours but enforcement of distancing as effectively as possible, alongside population education |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. "
I've lost 6 stone so wear a fu#king mask!!! |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. "
Oh and how is wearing a mask ruining your life exactly?? |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. "
Spend more time outdoors then you won’t need to wear a mask.
It’s good for you.. |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. "
I kind of agree.
I was on Blackpool promenade on Saturday afternoon and I was astounded by the amount of unhealthy people there.
Of all ages.
Just from that snapshot of life it made me think we have a problem in this country with people being out of shape and basically unhealthy.
To be harsh I could see why so many people who would struggle with the virus. |
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So no 1 has even mentioned therapeutics. There are loads out there that have been out years . Countries that take these for other things have had hardly any plandemic deaths . They only got the numbers due to putting pneumonia flu and any death all in 1 . Project fear . ITS A MASS POWER GRAB... go to banned.video and watch the speeches from actual doctors youtube and others are hiding |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy.
I kind of agree.
I was on Blackpool promenade on Saturday afternoon and I was astounded by the amount of unhealthy people there.
Of all ages.
Just from that snapshot of life it made me think we have a problem in this country with people being out of shape and basically unhealthy.
To be harsh I could see why so many people who would struggle with the virus."
That's why Americans are so badly affected in terms of hospitalisation. No state has an obesity rate below 20-odd percent. Most very obese people either have diabetes, or have pre diabetes and diabetes is pretty much the number 1 indicator of poor outcomes. |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy.
Spend more time outdoors then you won’t need to wear a mask.
It’s good for you.."
Any evidence for this? UV rays, pollution from vehicles? Getting hit by a car, or attacked by insects! Are you sure being outside is good for you?! |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy.
I kind of agree.
I was on Blackpool promenade on Saturday afternoon and I was astounded by the amount of unhealthy people there.
Of all ages.
Just from that snapshot of life it made me think we have a problem in this country with people being out of shape and basically unhealthy.
To be harsh I could see why so many people who would struggle with the virus.
That's why Americans are so badly affected in terms of hospitalisation. No state has an obesity rate below 20-odd percent. Most very obese people either have diabetes, or have pre diabetes and diabetes is pretty much the number 1 indicator of poor outcomes. "
Darwinism.... don't stand in the way of nature! |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. "
It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
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How do you stop the virus entering your eye? |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?"
By wearing a helmet, no but it is a lesser of a chance with the mask than not. I would say about 90% more protection than not having one on. |
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How do you stop the virus entering your eye?By wearing a helmet, no but it is a lesser of a chance with the mask than not. I would say about 90% more protection than not having one on."
So you're basically guessing that your non virus proof ppe will save you... |
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Good to see the brownshirts out in full song again.
Ultimately the government are going to do what they are going to do, the "experts" will wheel out the tombola machine and tell us how many will be dead tomorrow and the world will turn a blind eye to the 100 previous predictions being wrong. The collaborator types will demand further restrictions on freedom, and get it, and I'll continue to do what I've done up until this point.
Comply to the very minimum level required, pay lip service to the public stuff and continue to not give a toss when it comes to what goes on in private.
The battle for freedom was lost some time ago, at this point all that is to be gained by fighting for it is to highlight yourself to the state for sanctions. |
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I don't think it'll work.
People don't care.
I am one of the vulnerable and hae been doing as much as I realistically can to keep myself safe... I'm now suicidal because of the stress of the situation on my mental health and being cut off from my support system.
But... what do we matter? Seriously, some people absolute disgust me. |
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Research all facts and lies they have told us it a death rate similar to pneumonia. Did we have a world lockdown for h1n1, sars, Mers or all the other mainly china viruses ? There playing on our fear. I no some of you belive the goverment but theres more to this power grab |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?By wearing a helmet, no but it is a lesser of a chance with the mask than not. I would say about 90% more protection than not having one on.
So you're basically guessing that your non virus proof ppe will save you... "
You can still do the best to protect yourselves than not doing anything about it |
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"Research all facts and lies they have told us it a death rate similar to pneumonia. Did we have a world lockdown for h1n1, sars, Mers or all the other mainly china viruses ? There playing on our fear. I no some of you belive the goverment but theres more to this power grab "
You can start by better researching the lies you have clearly swallowed. We didn't have a lockdown globally for the other diseases as they didn't spread as far or kill as many people. In order for your conspiracies to be even remotely convincing, all the governments of the world would need to be in on it and cooperate. Given that some countries can't even agree the time of day most of the time, the chances of this scenario happening are so absolutely remote as to be impossible for all practical intent. |
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"We had a rise to 1000 new cases confirmed yesterday and that’s on a Sunday. This quite possibly could have already got out of hand, the next couple of weeks could be extremely depressing.
Cases
And?...."
Cases = hospitalised in 12-14 days and new secondary cases at currently a growing rate. |
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"Maybe! My 19 year old went to spoons last night with 7 of his friends, rolled in at past midnight. They didn't take any track and trace details from any of them. We've spoken to him numerous times about the virus in general and he really doesn't give a flying fuck
When you're 19 you're invincible.
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Don't know about 19. I still am and I am 58. One thing is for sure I am glad I am not 19. Had a great life and no regrets. Just glad I am not 79, having said that I was chatting to a mate who is 77 from the tennis club and he thinks it's all a great big load of bollocks too what's going on. He is soooooooo fit for 77, I admire him so much. |
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"Maybe! My 19 year old went to spoons last night with 7 of his friends, rolled in at past midnight. They didn't take any track and trace details from any of them. We've spoken to him numerous times about the virus in general and he really doesn't give a flying fuck
When you're 19 you're invincible.
Don't know about 19. I still am and I am 58. One thing is for sure I am glad I am not 19. Had a great life and no regrets. Just glad I am not 79, having said that I was chatting to a mate who is 77 from the tennis club and he thinks it's all a great big load of bollocks too what's going on. He is soooooooo fit for 77, I admire him so much."
I'm 63 and just beginning to realise that invincibility is no longer one of my assets . Also immortality is off the cards too |
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"Research all facts and lies they have told us it a death rate similar to pneumonia. Did we have a world lockdown for h1n1, sars, Mers or all the other mainly china viruses ? There playing on our fear. I no some of you belive the goverment but theres more to this power grab
You can start by better researching the lies you have clearly swallowed. We didn't have a lockdown globally for the other diseases as they didn't spread as far or kill as many people. In order for your conspiracies to be even remotely convincing, all the governments of the world would need to be in on it and cooperate. Given that some countries can't even agree the time of day most of the time, the chances of this scenario happening are so absolutely remote as to be impossible for all practical intent. "
Total common sense there, but it won't sink in.
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"Maybe! My 19 year old went to spoons last night with 7 of his friends, rolled in at past midnight. They didn't take any track and trace details from any of them. We've spoken to him numerous times about the virus in general and he really doesn't give a flying fuck "
Guess it's hard if you feel strongly about it, and a member of your family or son/ daughter who you live with couldnt give a shit about others, esp who live in the same house, to say to others.
Guess some would say...live in our house, live by our house rules or leave, as they would just not be open and tell you what they are upto, at the end of the day though we all know the risks we are prepared to take in order to carry on with our lives and live in harmony with our family and friends and work colleagues who have a totally different outlook to this virus, and the risks we are prepared to take with people we meet on here through all of this too.....social meets with others off here, be it friends like your son meets or otherwise, we all take risks everyday after all.....I judge myself, dont need others too as may the younger ones do. |
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"watching a BBC news report this morning and seeing all the young people not social distancing and the police admitting they cannot enforce it indoors due to lack of officers. The young drinkers also admitting that they are young and want some fun, resulting in over half of new local infections in the under 35's
Is it time to impose a evening (9pm) alcohol premises curfew before it gets out of control again"
Definitely not, what things change after 9pm at night that is different before 9pm.... |
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"watching a BBC news report this morning and seeing all the young people not social distancing and the police admitting they cannot enforce it indoors due to lack of officers. The young drinkers also admitting that they are young and want some fun, resulting in over half of new local infections in the under 35's
Is it time to impose a evening (9pm) alcohol premises curfew before it gets out of control again
Definitely not, what things change after 9pm at night that is different before 9pm...."
If your out and drinking your inhibitions disappear fact.
I'm not advocating it to happen now as its " partially" under control. But if it picks back up especially in the winter months.
I think it may be a option...but hey we lived for nearly 3 months with the pubs shut completely... |
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"watching a BBC news report this morning and seeing all the young people not social distancing and the police admitting they cannot enforce it indoors due to lack of officers. The young drinkers also admitting that they are young and want some fun, resulting in over half of new local infections in the under 35's
Is it time to impose a evening (9pm) alcohol premises curfew before it gets out of control again
Definitely not, what things change after 9pm at night that is different before 9pm....
If your out and drinking your inhibitions disappear fact.
I'm not advocating it to happen now as its " partially" under control. But if it picks back up especially in the winter months.
I think it may be a option...but hey we lived for nearly 3 months with the pubs shut completely..."
Being a non drinker, and not everybody is that goes to pubs, why then not stop selling alcohol in pubs after 9, but they still stay open to socialise, and yes we did manage with the pubs not being open, but I for one missed the socialising... |
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"OK, I'll phrase the question differently.
If they put us back into lockdown but you are allowed back to work would you adhere too it and if not why.
Like Charlie says. 1000 cases on a Sunday is worrying. "
I have a break booked in Belgium later this year, I am seriously considering not self isolating when I get back. |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?"
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other |
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At 19 I suspect the stats are such that death by stabbing on a night out is a much more likely than death from Covid. It’s those he passes it to that are more at risk though. |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other"
Everyone all the time ? |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other"
Spot on smigga |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other
Everyone all the time ?"
Inside public areas will do. |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other
Everyone all the time ?
Inside public areas will do."
Including gyms ? |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other
Everyone all the time ?"
Eliminating the virus isn’t going to happen but masks do not need to be 100% effective to reduce the spread. |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other
Everyone all the time ?
Inside public areas will do.
Including gyms ?"
Why not? |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other
Everyone all the time ?
Inside public areas will do.
Including gyms ?
Why not?"
Really ? |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other
Everyone all the time ?
Inside public areas will do.
Including gyms ?
Why not?
Really ?"
Yep do explain? |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other
Everyone all the time ?
Inside public areas will do.
Including gyms ?
Why not?
Really ?
Yep do explain?"
I wont be training with a mask on.
I can barely breath when I finish a set as it is.
They might as well close the gyms if they brought a mask rule I'm for gyms. |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other
Everyone all the time ?
Inside public areas will do.
Including gyms ?
Why not?
Really ?
Yep do explain?
I wont be training with a mask on.
I can barely breath when I finish a set as it is.
They might as well close the gyms if they brought a mask rule I'm for gyms."
Feck me ya wimp...haven't you seen rocky in training |
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"I'll start wearing a mask when fat people stop over eating. We need to reduce the number of vulnerable people rather than ruin the lives of the fit and healthy. It is not about others, it is about protecting yourself from it, you have a greater chance of getting it in enclosed spaces as others there might not have a mask on.
How do you stop the virus entering your eye?
By everyone wearing a mask then no one is expelling water droplets to each other
Everyone all the time ?
Inside public areas will do.
Including gyms ?
Why not?
Really ?
Yep do explain?
I wont be training with a mask on.
I can barely breath when I finish a set as it is.
They might as well close the gyms if they brought a mask rule I'm for gyms.
Feck me ya wimp...haven't you seen rocky in training "
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"I don't know if an evening curfew on drinking is the way forward. It's not as if the virus doesn't spread before 9pm
Drink and barriers is all I'll say..."
if people go out at 3 now and go home at 12, when they introduce a curfew they will just start going out at 12 and going home at 9 ... or worse ... at 9 they will pop to the off license and take it all back to a house with even less social distance / rules
a time curfew will not make one bit of positive difference to the rate of infection, how much people drink or social distance |
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"We had a rise to 1000 new cases confirmed yesterday and that’s on a Sunday. This quite possibly could have already got out of hand, the next couple of weeks could be extremely depressing.
Cases
And?....
The more cases the more it is spreading. The more it spreads the less chance there is of restrictions being lifted. Peoples ignorance surrounding this is astounding.
More cases less chance of it disappearing. "
your logic here is flawed because “disappearing” isnt an option on the table unless it naturally mutates or a vaccine is available |
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"I don't know if an evening curfew on drinking is the way forward. It's not as if the virus doesn't spread before 9pm
Drink and barriers is all I'll say...
if people go out at 3 now and go home at 12, when they introduce a curfew they will just start going out at 12 and going home at 9 ... or worse ... at 9 they will pop to the off license and take it all back to a house with even less social distance / rules
a time curfew will not make one bit of positive difference to the rate of infection, how much people drink or social distance "
Maybe it should be like Thailand were they did a block ban on all alcohol sales for over a month...no off licence 's open...but het they have only had 58 deaths in total...we are still averaging that a dat....food for thought eh? |
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"No. People are just wanting to move on with life now. Vounerable people need to take some responsibility and make sure they keep their distance. Its not upto the majority to protect the minority. If everyone keeps hiding away we will end up stuck like this forever
Vulnerable people are taking responsibility, what makes you think they aren't?
Personally I think it's very much up to the majority to protect the minority.
I tend to like living in a society where the majority feel it's a duty to look after the vulnerable and minority.
If not, why not gas all the old fuckers in nursing homes and have done with it, would hate for young people to feel any sort of obligation to elderly folk, cos what the fuck have old people ever done for us....oh yeah, there was that war thingy some of them did.. "
i guess when you look at morality there is a huge gap between killing someone and not actively doing everything you can to protect their life ... they aren't the same thing
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"watching a BBC news report this morning and seeing all the young people not social distancing and the police admitting they cannot enforce it indoors due to lack of officers. The young drinkers also admitting that they are young and want some fun, resulting in over half of new local infections in the under 35's
Is it time to impose a evening (9pm) alcohol premises curfew before it gets out of control again"
Quite frankly, NO , we just need to get on with life , if you’re at risk and worried then stay in if you like |
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"I don't know if an evening curfew on drinking is the way forward. It's not as if the virus doesn't spread before 9pm
Drink and barriers is all I'll say...
if people go out at 3 now and go home at 12, when they introduce a curfew they will just start going out at 12 and going home at 9 ... or worse ... at 9 they will pop to the off license and take it all back to a house with even less social distance / rules
a time curfew will not make one bit of positive difference to the rate of infection, how much people drink or social distance
Maybe it should be like Thailand were they did a block ban on all alcohol sales for over a month...no off licence 's open...but het they have only had 58 deaths in total...we are still averaging that a dat....food for thought eh?"
That I could live with. |
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"I don't know if an evening curfew on drinking is the way forward. It's not as if the virus doesn't spread before 9pm
Drink and barriers is all I'll say...
if people go out at 3 now and go home at 12, when they introduce a curfew they will just start going out at 12 and going home at 9 ... or worse ... at 9 they will pop to the off license and take it all back to a house with even less social distance / rules
a time curfew will not make one bit of positive difference to the rate of infection, how much people drink or social distance
Maybe it should be like Thailand were they did a block ban on all alcohol sales for over a month...no off licence 's open...but het they have only had 58 deaths in total...we are still averaging that a dat....food for thought eh?"
South africa did a block sale on alcohol as well |
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so we are suggesting going back to prohibition times ... that worked wonderfully last time
cant wait to try moonshine and get out my flapper dress roaring 20s  |
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"so we are suggesting going back to prohibition times ... that worked wonderfully last time
cant wait to try moonshine and get out my flapper dress roaring 20s "
Sorry you are talking about a latter day America. I'm talking about successful countries this year during COVID-19.
Surely we should be looking at them countries to learn something.
As I hate to break the news to you that this is far from over. |
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"so we are suggesting going back to prohibition times ... that worked wonderfully last time
cant wait to try moonshine and get out my flapper dress roaring 20s
Sorry you are talking about a latter day America. I'm talking about successful countries this year during COVID-19.
Surely we should be looking at them countries to learn something.
As I hate to break the news to you that this is far from over."
Well said Mistress very wise and to the point |
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"so we are suggesting going back to prohibition times ... that worked wonderfully last time
cant wait to try moonshine and get out my flapper dress roaring 20s
Sorry you are talking about a latter day America. I'm talking about successful countries this year during COVID-19.
Surely we should be looking at them countries to learn something.
As I hate to break the news to you that this is far from over."
I agree, it only just started |
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"so we are suggesting going back to prohibition times ... that worked wonderfully last time
cant wait to try moonshine and get out my flapper dress roaring 20s
Sorry you are talking about a latter day America. I'm talking about successful countries this year during COVID-19.
Surely we should be looking at them countries to learn something.
As I hate to break the news to you that this is far from over.Well said Mistress very wise and to the point"
Don't put him in a pedestal, the old dear |
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"so we are suggesting going back to prohibition times ... that worked wonderfully last time
cant wait to try moonshine and get out my flapper dress roaring 20s
Sorry you are talking about a latter day America. I'm talking about successful countries this year during COVID-19.
Surely we should be looking at them countries to learn something.
As I hate to break the news to you that this is far from over.Well said Mistress very wise and to the point
Don't put him in a pedestal, the old dear"
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"Absolutely not, STASI pish! I can't believe that people who believe themselves to be Libertarians are calling for such draconian measures.
We've given up too many freedoms in the name of the great new religion called Covid.
That the culturally Marxist BBC are suggesting such an agenda doesn't surprise me.
We're being led like sheep into this massive distopia from which we may never escape.
Besides, who's going to enforce a curfew, the army maybe, let's all go along with Martial Law, then, at which point, do you think we'll get any of our freedom back? "
Marxist BBC?
I'm just waiting for the next poster to decry the BBC for being a mouth piece of our right wing government!! |
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"so we are suggesting going back to prohibition times ... that worked wonderfully last time
cant wait to try moonshine and get out my flapper dress roaring 20s
Sorry you are talking about a latter day America. I'm talking about successful countries this year during COVID-19.
Surely we should be looking at them countries to learn something.
As I hate to break the news to you that this is far from over.Well said Mistress very wise and to the point
Don't put him in a pedestal, the old dear
Feck off "
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"watching a BBC news report this morning and seeing all the young people not social distancing and the police admitting they cannot enforce it indoors due to lack of officers. The young drinkers also admitting that they are young and want some fun, resulting in over half of new local infections in the under 35's
Is it time to impose a evening (9pm) alcohol premises curfew before it gets out of control againIn areas where the spike is big yes especially in seaside resorts but not a blanket cerfew.Scotland has done and I think a good idea.Also Pubs not reinforcing rules closed down,licence removed.We are to soft in this country."
Totally agree. The moron landlord in Stone who had hundreds in his pub and "apologised for not being thorough enforcing distancing" still has licence and re-opened! |
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"so we are suggesting going back to prohibition times ... that worked wonderfully last time
cant wait to try moonshine and get out my flapper dress roaring 20s
Sorry you are talking about a latter day America. I'm talking about successful countries this year during COVID-19.
Surely we should be looking at them countries to learn something.
As I hate to break the news to you that this is far from over."
i am talking about the suggested ban on alcohol
i never said covid was over  |
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"watching a BBC news report this morning and seeing all the young people not social distancing and the police admitting they cannot enforce it indoors due to lack of officers. The young drinkers also admitting that they are young and want some fun, resulting in over half of new local infections in the under 35's
Is it time to impose a evening (9pm) alcohol premises curfew before it gets out of control again
Quite frankly, NO , we just need to get on with life , if you’re at risk and worried then stay in if you like "
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