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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881" You have only just realised this, and you have the cheek to tell people to open their eyes. | |||
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"This makes me cross, all of those figures just tell us that we had a high population of people that were vulnerable to covid-19 and we have a lot more that are still vulnerable and could die this year. Its not a competition between countries, the demographics between us are too different. It should be us respecting each other and protecting each other from this coronavirus as best as we can." Ahhh the soothing voice of logic and reason.   | |||
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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad I have been saying this for months!!!! Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881 You have only just realised this, and you have the cheek to tell people to open their eyes. " | |||
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"This makes me cross, all of those figures just tell us that we had a high population of people that were vulnerable to covid-19 and we have a lot more that are still vulnerable and could die this year. Its not a competition between countries, the demographics between us are too different. It should be us respecting each other and protecting each other from this coronavirus as best as we can." Yes we should wear a mask social distance no excuses To many avoidable deaths | |||
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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881 You have only just realised this, and you have the cheek to tell people to open their eyes. " Have you just realised Open your eyes | |||
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"This makes me cross, all of those figures just tell us that we had a high population of people that were vulnerable to covid-19 and we have a lot more that are still vulnerable and could die this year. Its not a competition between countries, the demographics between us are too different. It should be us respecting each other and protecting each other from this coronavirus as best as we can." So you think England has handled it well Scotland have | |||
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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881" Compered to what?Measured in what way? Yes it is serious but serious all over the world,there is no way figures can be put together as different measures are used,also many nations lie,ie Russia,China,,many EU countries do not count all deaths so the figures mean naff all | |||
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"This is a national disaster where the, worst in the world " We aren't the worst in the world, stop being so dramatic. | |||
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"This makes me cross, all of those figures just tell us that we had a high population of people that were vulnerable to covid-19 and we have a lot more that are still vulnerable and could die this year. Its not a competition between countries, the demographics between us are too different. It should be us respecting each other and protecting each other from this coronavirus as best as we can. So you think England has handled it well Scotland have " To say it's a new virus and we still don't know anything about it, we have managed to slow it down reasonably quickly and we are heading in the right direction. Yes, mistakes have been made and people have done stupid shit and acted like knobheads but it could have been so much worse. It's awful for everyone who has had someone affected by the virus and it's so sad that anyone had to die but we need to start trying to look forward and see what we can, as individuals, do to make the stats keep coming down. All this negative crap helps nobody. | |||
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"This makes me cross, all of those figures just tell us that we had a high population of people that were vulnerable to covid-19 and we have a lot more that are still vulnerable and could die this year. Its not a competition between countries, the demographics between us are too different. It should be us respecting each other and protecting each other from this coronavirus as best as we can. So you think England has handled it well Scotland have To say it's a new virus and we still don't know anything about it, we have managed to slow it down reasonably quickly and we are heading in the right direction. Yes, mistakes have been made and people have done stupid shit and acted like knobheads but it could have been so much worse. It's awful for everyone who has had someone affected by the virus and it's so sad that anyone had to die but we need to start trying to look forward and see what we can, as individuals, do to make the stats keep coming down. All this negative crap helps nobody. " Know much about it, that should have said | |||
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"If the BBC is your only source of information, then you need a reality check. One of the most anti Boris organisations on the planet." I thought it was anti Corbyn. I must keep up with these biases. | |||
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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881Compered to what?Measured in what way? Yes it is serious but serious all over the world,there is no way figures can be put together as different measures are used,also many nations lie,ie Russia,China,,many EU countries do not count all deaths so the figures mean naff all" I don't think it's relevant to how countries count the deaths from covid19 but showing that we had highest above average deaths during that period compared to other countries. | |||
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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881Compered to what?Measured in what way? Yes it is serious but serious all over the world,there is no way figures can be put together as different measures are used,also many nations lie,ie Russia,China,,many EU countries do not count all deaths so the figures mean naff all I don't think it's relevant to how countries count the deaths from covid19 but showing that we had highest above average deaths during that period compared to other countries." Of course it's relevant. | |||
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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881Compered to what?Measured in what way? Yes it is serious but serious all over the world,there is no way figures can be put together as different measures are used,also many nations lie,ie Russia,China,,many EU countries do not count all deaths so the figures mean naff all I don't think it's relevant to how countries count the deaths from covid19 but showing that we had highest above average deaths during that period compared to other countries. Of course it's relevant. " If excess deaths are from all causes it wouldn't matter how countries are recording covid 19 deaths as every death is still counted over that period of time and that's what the ONS are basing this on. When it comes to how many deaths are from covid19,I agree that countries seem to count the deaths much differently and therefore it's hard to make a comparison | |||
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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881Compered to what?Measured in what way? Yes it is serious but serious all over the world,there is no way figures can be put together as different measures are used,also many nations lie,ie Russia,China,,many EU countries do not count all deaths so the figures mean naff all I don't think it's relevant to how countries count the deaths from covid19 but showing that we had highest above average deaths during that period compared to other countries. Of course it's relevant. If excess deaths are from all causes it wouldn't matter how countries are recording covid 19 deaths as every death is still counted over that period of time and that's what the ONS are basing this on. When it comes to how many deaths are from covid19,I agree that countries seem to count the deaths much differently and therefore it's hard to make a comparison" There's no point comparing excess deaths yet as the virus isn't over. | |||
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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881Compered to what?Measured in what way? Yes it is serious but serious all over the world,there is no way figures can be put together as different measures are used,also many nations lie,ie Russia,China,,many EU countries do not count all deaths so the figures mean naff all I don't think it's relevant to how countries count the deaths from covid19 but showing that we had highest above average deaths during that period compared to other countries. Of course it's relevant. If excess deaths are from all causes it wouldn't matter how countries are recording covid 19 deaths as every death is still counted over that period of time and that's what the ONS are basing this on. When it comes to how many deaths are from covid19,I agree that countries seem to count the deaths much differently and therefore it's hard to make a comparison There's no point comparing excess deaths yet as the virus isn't over. " They were comparing them over the first half of the year | |||
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"If the BBC is your only source of information, then you need a reality check. One of the most anti Boris organisations on the planet." The data comes from the ONS and is being widely reported. Just blaming the media when reality doesn't suit you is a very Trump move, well done. | |||
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"It's, a percentage Also Italy has more vulnerable Stop making excuses we have failed our people this country " How do you work that one out would be interested to see your figures. | |||
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"Look forward not back. We can't bring back the dead We can socially distance and wear a face covering to help reduce future deaths.. It's up to you If it's too much trouble to wear a mask then that's fine but don't start gloating and chastising others that care." This should be the whole point to all these findings, realise errors and make sure they don't happen again. Whatever helps reduce transmission should be done (as most of us are). It's not about allocating blame at the moment it's about finding ways forward and luckily so many positives are being discovered now. | |||
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"Look forward not back. We can't bring back the dead We can socially distance and wear a face covering to help reduce future deaths.. It's up to you If it's too much trouble to wear a mask then that's fine but don't start gloating and chastising others that care. This should be the whole point to all these findings, realise errors and make sure they don't happen again. Whatever helps reduce transmission should be done (as most of us are). It's not about allocating blame at the moment it's about finding ways forward and luckily so many positives are being discovered now." | |||
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"Look forward not back. We can't bring back the dead We can socially distance and wear a face covering to help reduce future deaths.. It's up to you If it's too much trouble to wear a mask then that's fine but don't start gloating and chastising others that care. This should be the whole point to all these findings, realise errors and make sure they don't happen again. Whatever helps reduce transmission should be done (as most of us are). It's not about allocating blame at the moment it's about finding ways forward and luckily so many positives are being discovered now. "Wish I shared you optimism But facts the majority not distancing or wearing masks Think your being naive | |||
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"If the BBC is your only source of information, then you need a reality check. One of the most anti Boris organisations on the planet." It's not bbc it's ons Also the deaths are real ask the families Your so selfish | |||
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"'wait for these figures before making comparisons'they said. We waited, it's a catastrophe...they say nothing. Standard" I agree | |||
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"Look forward not back. We can't bring back the dead We can socially distance and wear a face covering to help reduce future deaths.. It's up to you If it's too much trouble to wear a mask then that's fine but don't start gloating and chastising others that care. This should be the whole point to all these findings, realise errors and make sure they don't happen again. Whatever helps reduce transmission should be done (as most of us are). It's not about allocating blame at the moment it's about finding ways forward and luckily so many positives are being discovered now.
Wish I shared you optimism
But facts the majority not distancing or wearing masks
Think your being naive
"I'm not naive, I'm well aware that there are people out there that don't follow social distancing or wear a mask but I think there are also alot of people that like to provoke a reaction and dismiss all the evidence, it's easy to sit behind a phone of keyboard and talk utter shit to wind people up. From what I've seen in supermarkets and the garage the only people NOT wearing a mask were the checkout operators and one elderly couple that had their masks under their chins, everyone else had masks. | |||
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"'wait for these figures before making comparisons'they said. We waited, it's a catastrophe...they say nothing. Standard" Oh behave, it could have been far worse and we are heading in the right direction. | |||
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"To a family a death is a death so 65k extra families had funerals We're not working together no social distancing and people using excuses not to wear a mask Im alright Jack.. country so selfish What happened to this once great country" Speak for yourself !!! I and many others do wear masks and socially distance. The only place i can't do that is at work, however no one at work or any of the families has had covid19. | |||
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"Look forward not back. We can't bring back the dead We can socially distance and wear a face covering to help reduce future deaths.. It's up to you If it's too much trouble to wear a mask then that's fine but don't start gloating and chastising others that care. This should be the whole point to all these findings, realise errors and make sure they don't happen again. Whatever helps reduce transmission should be done (as most of us are). It's not about allocating blame at the moment it's about finding ways forward and luckily so many positives are being discovered now.
Wish I shared you optimism
But facts the majority not distancing or wearing masks
Think your being naive
"It isn't the majority at all, don't make stuff up in order to justify your doomsaying. | |||
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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881" I have a question for you , what do you think is the impact of the selected methodology? These rates are calculated by subtracting the weekly 2015 to 2019 mean ASMR from the weekly 2020 ASMR and then dividing by mean annual cumulative ASMR for 2015 to 2019, which in turn is divided by 52. Is this correct ? Also if the government can’t can’t its own fingers or up to two when counting PPE, is the ONS Analysis still correct ? | |||
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"Happy clapping and positive thoughts. That should do it."
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"If the BBC is your only source of information, then you need a reality check. One of the most anti Boris organisations on the planet." Ha ha ha ha ha ha Priceless | |||
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"If the BBC is your only source of information, then you need a reality check. One of the most anti Boris organisations on the planet. The data comes from the ONS and is being widely reported. Just blaming the media when reality doesn't suit you is a very Trump move, well done. " | |||
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 (I hope not) We could find England has lower numbers over the duration.
This is a virus, a largely invisible one with high numbers of asymptomatic people.
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"Double, sometimes triple counting. C-19 being put on many death certificates. Suspension of post mortems? The figures are way out, maybe we'll never know the true number because it wouldn't justify the Stasi state our country is becoming. To put it into perspective check EuroMoMo site, and remember, seasonal flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year." They are exaggerating the figures so they can be more repressive? Seriously? | |||
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"Double, sometimes triple counting. C-19 being put on many death certificates. Suspension of post mortems? The figures are way out, maybe we'll never know the true number because it wouldn't justify the Stasi state our country is becoming. To put it into perspective check EuroMoMo site, and remember, seasonal flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year." The thing is all figures given are people that have tested positive,the estimate is above but only an estimate anyway,hence not official numbers. After investigation maybe official numbers will drop but this article is solely relevant to excess deaths per country it's not disputing how many are actually covid related | |||
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"Double, sometimes triple counting. C-19 being put on many death certificates. Suspension of post mortems? The figures are way out, maybe we'll never know the true number because it wouldn't justify the Stasi state our country is becoming. To put it into perspective check EuroMoMo site, and remember, seasonal flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year." "...flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year..." -------------------- Flu has never killed that amount of people in a year in the UK. In fact it is likely to kill a lot less people this year due to social distancing and other measure we are taking to control covid. It's *your* figures that are way out. | |||
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" Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance " And what exactly do you think that is going to do? A pathogen will take it's natural course until herd immunity or a vaccine comes along. All that lockdown and social distancing does is change the rate of transmission. This was the original idea of lockdown to stop the pressure on the NHS. Somehow the public now think that they are trying to stop the virus. Many more people are now going to die because of the actions taken rather than the from CV19 itself. No one seems to be bothered about this at all. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53300784 The economic damage is going to be catastrophic and will lead to thousands more deaths. As for masks they are completely pointless and are just to keep people scared so that they happily submit to having a vaccine (if it comes along). | |||
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" Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance And what exactly do you think that is going to do? A pathogen will take it's natural course until herd immunity or a vaccine comes along. All that lockdown and social distancing does is change the rate of transmission. This was the original idea of lockdown to stop the pressure on the NHS. Somehow the public now think that they are trying to stop the virus. Many more people are now going to die because of the actions taken rather than the from CV19 itself. No one seems to be bothered about this at all. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53300784 The economic damage is going to be catastrophic and will lead to thousands more deaths. As for masks they are completely pointless and are just to keep people scared so that they happily submit to having a vaccine (if it comes along)." And why do they want people to have a vaccine? | |||
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" Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance And what exactly do you think that is going to do? A pathogen will take it's natural course until herd immunity or a vaccine comes along. All that lockdown and social distancing does is change the rate of transmission. This was the original idea of lockdown to stop the pressure on the NHS. Somehow the public now think that they are trying to stop the virus. Many more people are now going to die because of the actions taken rather than the from CV19 itself. No one seems to be bothered about this at all. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53300784 The economic damage is going to be catastrophic and will lead to thousands more deaths. As for masks they are completely pointless and are just to keep people scared so that they happily submit to having a vaccine (if it comes along)." "...All that lockdown and social distancing does is change the rate of transmission...." ---------------- That's exactly what mask will also do - change the rate of transmission. You've admitted lockdown can change the rate of transmission. The virus has not disappeared; it is still around. We can't be locked down forever, so now that we are out of lockdown, other measures need to be put in place to control the virus. Mask wearing is one such measure. | |||
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"Double, sometimes triple counting. C-19 being put on many death certificates. Suspension of post mortems? The figures are way out, maybe we'll never know the true number because it wouldn't justify the Stasi state our country is becoming. To put it into perspective check EuroMoMo site, and remember, seasonal flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year. "...flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year..." -------------------- Flu has never killed that amount of people in a year in the UK. In fact it is likely to kill a lot less people this year due to social distancing and other measure we are taking to control covid. It's *your* figures that are way out." Hong Kong flu in 69 killed 80,000 There was no msm though to whip up mass hysteria | |||
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"No reason to think masks will make any difference" Finally, someone clearly qualified who can tell us exactly what to think  | |||
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"'wait for these figures before making comparisons'they said. We waited, it's a catastrophe...they say nothing. Standard Oh behave, it could have been far worse and we are heading in the right direction. " The UK has some of the worst figures for Europe, sure it could be worse. Thats a hell of a consolation to families of those that died. Here are two reasons why the death toll was so high. First, lack of preparation. Second, appallingly handled. That phrase 'world beating' has a horrible irony to it now. | |||
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"Double, sometimes triple counting. C-19 being put on many death certificates. Suspension of post mortems? The figures are way out, maybe we'll never know the true number because it wouldn't justify the Stasi state our country is becoming. To put it into perspective check EuroMoMo site, and remember, seasonal flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year. "...flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year..." -------------------- Flu has never killed that amount of people in a year in the UK. In fact it is likely to kill a lot less people this year due to social distancing and other measure we are taking to control covid. It's *your* figures that are way out. Hong Kong flu in 69 killed 80,000 There was no msm though to whip up mass hysteria" The 'mass hysteria' Is probably something to do with nearly 50,000 people dying. | |||
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"Double, sometimes triple counting. C-19 being put on many death certificates. Suspension of post mortems? The figures are way out, maybe we'll never know the true number because it wouldn't justify the Stasi state our country is becoming. To put it into perspective check EuroMoMo site, and remember, seasonal flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year. "...flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year..." -------------------- Flu has never killed that amount of people in a year in the UK. In fact it is likely to kill a lot less people this year due to social distancing and other measure we are taking to control covid. It's *your* figures that are way out. Hong Kong flu in 69 killed 80,000 There was no msm though to whip up mass hysteria" We are talking about the annual seasonal flu in the UK, the one we are vaccinated for just before winter every year. We are not talking about past pandemics. | |||
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"No reason to think masks will make any difference Finally, someone clearly qualified who can tell us exactly what to think "Just what Wanksock and sage were saying until a few weeks ago. The surgucal masks people are wearing were designed to be used in sterile environments (ie operating theatres). They say on the box they will not stop viruses passing through them which makes sense as the virus is 10 times smaller than the gaps | |||
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"Double, sometimes triple counting. C-19 being put on many death certificates. Suspension of post mortems? The figures are way out, maybe we'll never know the true number because it wouldn't justify the Stasi state our country is becoming. To put it into perspective check EuroMoMo site, and remember, seasonal flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year. "...flu can kill up to 50k people of all ages in the UK in a bad year..." -------------------- Flu has never killed that amount of people in a year in the UK. In fact it is likely to kill a lot less people this year due to social distancing and other measure we are taking to control covid. It's *your* figures that are way out. Hong Kong flu in 69 killed 80,000 There was no msm though to whip up mass hysteria The 'mass hysteria' Is probably something to do with nearly 50,000 people dying." No its the msm pure and simple. Them and there second waves and armageddgon forecasts | |||
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"Look forward not back. We can't bring back the dead We can socially distance and wear a face covering to help reduce future deaths.. It's up to you If it's too much trouble to wear a mask then that's fine but don't start gloating and chastising others that care. This should be the whole point to all these findings, realise errors and make sure they don't happen again. Whatever helps reduce transmission should be done (as most of us are). It's not about allocating blame at the moment it's about finding ways forward and luckily so many positives are being discovered now.
Wish I shared you optimism
But facts the majority not distancing or wearing masks
Think your being naive
"So from how I read your post is the majority of people just don't give a fuck but you do ? And because you choose to wear a mask and socially distance your on your soap box preaching to us dumb mortals who are just not doing our bit in any way | |||
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"'wait for these figures before making comparisons'they said. We waited, it's a catastrophe...they say nothing. Standard Oh behave, it could have been far worse and we are heading in the right direction. The UK has some of the worst figures for Europe, sure it could be worse. Thats a hell of a consolation to families of those that died. Here are two reasons why the death toll was so high. First, lack of preparation. Second, appallingly handled. That phrase 'world beating' has a horrible irony to it now." There is nothing that will comfort those who lost someone to covid, that's not the point of my post. My point is that we are heading in the right direction and we all need to do our part to continue going in the right direction. | |||
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"'wait for these figures before making comparisons'they said. We waited, it's a catastrophe...they say nothing. Standard Oh behave, it could have been far worse and we are heading in the right direction. " It's fact, they literally said wait for these figures.....and it SHOULD of been far better. Tell that to those families asking for an enquiry. | |||
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"This makes me cross, all of those figures just tell us that we had a high population of people that were vulnerable to covid-19 and we have a lot more that are still vulnerable and could die this year. Its not a competition between countries, the demographics between us are too different. It should be us respecting each other and protecting each other from this coronavirus as best as we can." Well said | |||
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"It's all to do with the density of the population" No.it's all to do with the pandemic bekng handled shambolically. You would think we were the only densely populated country on the planet. Still I'm sure the enquiry will find out the truth. | |||
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"'wait for these figures before making comparisons'they said. We waited, it's a catastrophe...they say nothing. Standard Oh behave, it could have been far worse and we are heading in the right direction. It's fact, they literally said wait for these figures.....and it SHOULD of been far better. Tell that to those families asking for an enquiry. " Yep, it could have been better, but carrying on telling everyone how crap everything is and how our government have fucked absolutely everything up doesn't help anyone. Try looking forward instead of back all the time, you might find something positive to say | |||
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"'wait for these figures before making comparisons'they said. We waited, it's a catastrophe...they say nothing. Standard Oh behave, it could have been far worse and we are heading in the right direction. It's fact, they literally said wait for these figures.....and it SHOULD of been far better. Tell that to those families asking for an enquiry. Yep, it could have been better, but carrying on telling everyone how crap everything is and how our government have fucked absolutely everything up doesn't help anyone. Try looking forward instead of back all the time, you might find something positive to say "absolutely agree with this | |||
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"'wait for these figures before making comparisons'they said. We waited, it's a catastrophe...they say nothing. Standard Oh behave, it could have been far worse and we are heading in the right direction. It's fact, they literally said wait for these figures.....and it SHOULD of been far better. Tell that to those families asking for an enquiry. Yep, it could have been better, but carrying on telling everyone how crap everything is and how our government have fucked absolutely everything up doesn't help anyone. Try looking forward instead of back all the time, you might find something positive to say "No problem looking forward. Problem is, have to trust the people who fucked up, to not do it again. Now, if you never hold these people to account you literally give them carte blanche to fuck up again and again and again....it's people's lives. | |||
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"'wait for these figures before making comparisons'they said. We waited, it's a catastrophe...they say nothing. Standard Oh behave, it could have been far worse and we are heading in the right direction. It's fact, they literally said wait for these figures.....and it SHOULD of been far better. Tell that to those families asking for an enquiry. Yep, it could have been better, but carrying on telling everyone how crap everything is and how our government have fucked absolutely everything up doesn't help anyone. Try looking forward instead of back all the time, you might find something positive to say
No problem looking forward. Problem is, have to trust the people who fucked up, to not do it again. Now, if you never hold these people to account you literally give them carte blanche to fuck up again and again and again....it's people's lives."You're not holding them to account though, you're just commenting on a swingers forum, trying to put a damper on any positivity. Why not allow us to have our positivity? | |||
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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881Compered to what?Measured in what way? Yes it is serious but serious all over the world,there is no way figures can be put together as different measures are used,also many nations lie,ie Russia,China,,many EU countries do not count all deaths so the figures mean naff all" This based on excess deaths....all the countries count deaths in the same way. Pretending that Spain or Germany don't count their deceased is arrant nonsense | |||
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"If the BBC is your only source of information, then you need a reality check. One of the most anti Boris organisations on the planet." The source is our own ONS. Every news outlet is using their work as the basis for their reporting. If you don't like the BBC's analysis, read the original. The story is the same | |||
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"Worrying how badly we have fared OPEN YOU EYE THIS IS SERIOUS Social Distance wear a mask- NO excuses Social distance read attached very very sad Please Read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53592881Compered to what?Measured in what way? Yes it is serious but serious all over the world,there is no way figures can be put together as different measures are used,also many nations lie,ie Russia,China,,many EU countries do not count all deaths so the figures mean naff all I don't think it's relevant to how countries count the deaths from covid19 but showing that we had highest above average deaths during that period compared to other countries. Of course it's relevant. " No it isnt relevant. It's EXCESS deaths that are being counted..... | |||
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"It's, a percentage Also Italy has more vulnerable Stop making excuses we have failed our people this country How do you work that one out would be interested to see your figures." The population of Italy has a greater proportion of elderly people than the UK | |||
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"'wait for these figures before making comparisons'they said. We waited, it's a catastrophe...they say nothing. Standard Oh behave, it could have been far worse and we are heading in the right direction. It's fact, they literally said wait for these figures.....and it SHOULD of been far better. Tell that to those families asking for an enquiry. Yep, it could have been better, but carrying on telling everyone how crap everything is and how our government have fucked absolutely everything up doesn't help anyone. Try looking forward instead of back all the time, you might find something positive to say
No problem looking forward. Problem is, have to trust the people who fucked up, to not do it again. Now, if you never hold these people to account you literally give them carte blanche to fuck up again and again and again....it's people's lives.
You're not holding them to account though, you're just commenting on a swingers forum, trying to put a damper on any positivity. Why not allow us to have our positivity? "So, don't say anything and shut up? Again, try being all positive to the families that have lost people needlessly. I'm fortunate enough, thus far, to have not lost anybody I love, others not so lucky. If you don't know the mistakes of the past, you will make them again in the future.....and that is people's lives at risk......!!! | |||
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"'wait for these figures before making comparisons'they said. We waited, it's a catastrophe...they say nothing. Standard Oh behave, it could have been far worse and we are heading in the right direction. The UK has some of the worst figures for Europe, sure it could be worse. Thats a hell of a consolation to families of those that died. Here are two reasons why the death toll was so high. First, lack of preparation. Second, appallingly handled. That phrase 'world beating' has a horrible irony to it now." No the real reason is the uk has a much higher bame population than other european countries, studies have shown by public health they are a much more likely to die from covid this coupled with an aging population is why the death rate is so high. | |||
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"It's, a percentage Also Italy has more vulnerable Stop making excuses we have failed our people this country How do you work that one out would be interested to see your figures. The population of Italy has a greater proportion of elderly people than the UK " Yes but if you look at the bame percentages the uk has 6.8% of the population and italy 2.5% and considering they are the most vulnerable group it explains a lot. | |||
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"So you think UK doing great? So the, earth is flat" I dont think any countries are doing particularly great as its a pandemic and all are finding it hard to control.What i do object to is people making random statements without looking at the facts ie density of population, % of population who are most at risk etc i think they are the flat earthers. | |||
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"Let's, send people with the virus back to care homes We can't proud of that It's to do with pathetic goverment and selfish population " Lets compare NZ with the UK when in fact yorkshire and humber have a bigger population than the whole of NZ thats a great comparison you should apply for a job with go compair.  | |||
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"So you think UK doing great? So the, earth is flat I dont think any countries are doing particularly great as its a pandemic and all are finding it hard to control.What i do object to is people making random statements without looking at the facts ie density of population, % of population who are most at risk etc i think they are the flat earthers." Nothing random 65k families attending funerals they did not need to Everything's OK the world is flat!!!! | |||
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"This makes me cross, all of those figures just tell us that we had a high population of people that were vulnerable to covid-19 and we have a lot more that are still vulnerable and could die this year. Its not a competition between countries, the demographics between us are too different. It should be us respecting each other and protecting each other from this coronavirus as best as we can."  | |||
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"Let's, send people with the virus back to care homes We can't proud of that It's to do with pathetic goverment and selfish population Lets compare NZ with the UK when in fact yorkshire and humber have a bigger population than the whole of NZ thats a great comparison you should apply for a job with go compair. "You proud of your country are you one of the selfish ones | |||
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"We let vulnerable down We should hang are heads in shame Thanks for winning world w2 But you can die a lonely death in care home abandoned by society Are you proud!!! What a morally corrupt county we are" | |||
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"Vulnerable left to die alone is that civi You all seem to think that's, acceptable " I have not given my views. I have just mentioned that on HERE it is wise to be civil | |||
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"Vulnerable left to die alone is that civi You all seem to think that's, acceptable " I’m not sure everyone is saying that. It’s just you have decided they are for some bizarre reason. | |||
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"If the BBC is your only source of information, then you need a reality check. One of the most anti Boris organisations on the planet. The data comes from the ONS and is being widely reported. Just blaming the media when reality doesn't suit you is a very Trump move, well done. " Right wingers say BBC is left wing/Liberal biased. Left wingers claim it is right wing/government mouthpiece etc. For me, being attacked equally from both sides just prkves how balanced they actually are. Unless, of course, those complaining are the unbalanced ones.....oooh actually that's right! | |||
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"So we're all proud the way country treating vulnerable people " That's just your assumption. | |||
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"So we're all proud the way country treating vulnerable people " I'm proud of the way the majority of the country have tried fighting this virus together, without trying to cause upset and fear to others. I'm proud of the way people have gone out of their way to help vulnerable people. And most of all I'm proud of the fact that even in the midst of a horrible situation, people have tried to make the best of it and stay positive, even when things seemed at their worst. | |||
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"Answer question are you proud" Answer a question for me . Shst did you do for a living ? | |||
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"It's, a percentage Also Italy has more vulnerable Stop making excuses we have failed our people this country " Not necessarily. If the goal is to cripple us to the point where we will willingly accept any laws they say will help or any trade deal we can rush through. When you know how to turn tragedies into opportunities, there are no failures just new smoke screens they can operate under. | |||
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"Answer question are you proud Answer a question for me . Shst did you do for a living ?" Are you proud? Is the question to hard for you? What do I do for living it einingeer. You? | |||
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"Answer question are you proud Answer a question for me . Shst did you do for a living ? Are you proud? Is the question to hard for you? What do I do for living it einingeer. You? " Roofer so I have to bd out in the big bad world. Does that make me selfish? I take it you work from home ? | |||
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"So we're all proud the way country treating vulnerable people I'm proud of the way the majority of the country have tried fighting this virus together, without trying to cause upset and fear to others. I'm proud of the way people have gone out of their way to help vulnerable people. And most of all I'm proud of the fact that even in the midst of a horrible situation, people have tried to make the best of it and stay positive, even when things seemed at their worst. " Im proud of people who haven't been selfish But not proud of significant number who are selfish Theres, a differencecbetween positive and sticking your head in the sand | |||
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"Answer question are you proud Answer a question for me . Shst did you do for a living ? Are you proud? Is the question to hard for you? What do I do for living it einingeer. You? Roofer so I have to bd out in the big bad world. Does that make me selfish? I take it you work from home ?" No I don't work from I travel round coubtry Also you still haven't answered the question are you proud | |||
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"Answer question are you proud Answer a question for me . Shst did you do for a living ? Are you proud? Is the question to hard for you? What do I do for living it einingeer. You? " Im always proud to be British yes, could things have been done differently in hindsight yes can you really just use the death rate without taking into account demographics to compare against other countries NO something you do not seem to understand when comparing the UK with New zealand. | |||
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"Answer question are you proud Answer a question for me . Shst did you do for a living ? Are you proud? Is the question to hard for you? What do I do for living it einingeer. You? Im always proud to be British yes, could things have been done differently in hindsight yes can you really just use the death rate without taking into account demographics to compare against other countries NO something you do not seem to understand when comparing the UK with New zealand." So your proud we abandoned vulnerable prope | |||
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"Are you proud Stop avoiding question" So you do work from home then. | |||
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"By no answer you proud we abandoned vulnerable people But as long as you are alright that's fine which equals selfish" You talk utter rubbish | |||
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