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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!! "
Do you think we are just a couple of weeks behind them?
I do |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Do you think we are just a couple of weeks behind them?
I do"
i dont. are figures nowere near theres, we'll be fine apart from a few local 'outbreaks' which hopefully people dont lose their minds over  |
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Do you think we are just a couple of weeks behind them?
I do
i dont. are figures nowere near theres, we'll be fine apart from a few local 'outbreaks' which hopefully people dont lose their minds over "
2 week ago, Spain had cases around the 500-600 a day. That's EXACTLY where we are now. Their rates had dropped to 100-300 a day.
Hopefully we'll be more like Italy and Germany who appear to be avoiding a 2nd spike at the moment as cases level for 4-6 weeks now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Do you think we are just a couple of weeks behind them?
I do
i dont. are figures nowere near theres, we'll be fine apart from a few local 'outbreaks' which hopefully people dont lose their minds over
2 week ago, Spain had cases around the 500-600 a day. That's EXACTLY where we are now. Their rates had dropped to 100-300 a day.
Hopefully we'll be more like Italy and Germany who appear to be avoiding a 2nd spike at the moment as cases level for 4-6 weeks now."
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Do you think we are just a couple of weeks behind them?
I do
i dont. are figures nowere near theres, we'll be fine apart from a few local 'outbreaks' which hopefully people dont lose their minds over
2 week ago, Spain had cases around the 500-600 a day. That's EXACTLY where we are now. Their rates had dropped to 100-300 a day.
Hopefully we'll be more like Italy and Germany who appear to be avoiding a 2nd spike at the moment as cases level for 4-6 weeks now."
we'll be fine |
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As long as people follow the guidelines we will be fine, then again I dont see much evidence that people are following them, so many breaking the rules, if the cases do start to rise I think we could be in trouble, but at the moment it seems pretty level. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
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"Hope you right
But think wrong
as posted on another topic. the week on week figures/trends are generally falling, slowly but surely but the data tells us this
Yes, but it's, 2 week lag"
not sure thats totally accurate but its the figures and data we have today and now?? ans when you look back 2/3/4/5 weeks ago at these figures they are steadily falling so the trend tells us the vast majority of people are following the rules and/or the virus is weakening as the deaths and hospitalisations also coming down slowly too |
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"People don't follow, guidelines "
I'd be interested to know roughly how many are following the guidelines... And how many aren't. Hopefully the unguiders....are just a small but noisey bunch in the same way as we love to let minority have a disproportionate impact. But unless anyone has any facts... We are all just guessing. |
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it"
Thats hardly the right or responsible thing to do, Who do you think that you are fooling ?? |
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it
Thats hardly the right or responsible thing to do, Who do you think that you are fooling ??"
Not in my plans but nothing to stop me if it was, I've got a friend coming over from Gib in three weeks |
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it"
Nothing about any of this has been thought through. Sadly. |
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it
Thats hardly the right or responsible thing to do, Who do you think that you are fooling ??
Not in my plans but nothing to stop me if it was, I've got a friend coming over from Gib in three weeks"
Nothing to stop you but why do people look for loopholes rather than trying to help the situation? |
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it
Thats hardly the right or responsible thing to do, Who do you think that you are fooling ??
Not in my plans but nothing to stop me if it was, I've got a friend coming over from Gib in three weeks
Nothing to stop you but why do people look for loopholes rather than trying to help the situation?"
Some people will always look for a loophole and that seems like a glaring open one at the moment unless they close the border but I'm skeptical they will |
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it
Nothing about any of this has been thought through. Sadly."
So. Genuine question, you are in a position of power. What if anything would you do? |
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it
Very responsible. Not. "
No and as mentioned not in my plans but seems very possible for anyone who decided to |
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it
Nothing about any of this has been thought through. Sadly.
So. Genuine question, you are in a position of power. What if anything would you do? "
Simple enough they start stamping passports on the Gibraltar border bet they are not though |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"All scaremongering I’ve got family in Spain in Benidorm and they’ve said everything’s fine people still going out "
You can still go, you just have to quarantine for 14 days when you get back. |
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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago
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"So. Genuine question, you are in a position of power. What if anything would you do? "
Obvious answer is to quarantine anyone who has visited Spain in last 2 weeks regardless of where they flew home from. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Anyone agree with John Ashworth on TV this morning ?
He seems to think there should have been a notice period by the sounds of it ?
Surely it would be going back over old ground that if you delay measures by say a week then you let infection back in. They don't seem to have learnt that you can't delay stuff. If it needs doing it needs doing and you have to ride rough shod over the doubters.
People who went to Spain for their holidays were taking a personal risk so should have thought this could happen ?
If you follow the logic this is the right thing to do ?
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Surely it would be going back over old ground that if you delay measures by say a week then you let infection back in. They don't seem to have learnt that you can't delay stuff. If it needs doing it needs doing and you have to ride rough shod over the doubters.
If you follow the logic this is the right thing to do ?
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They decided face coverings in shops would be compulsory but then waited 11 days |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Surely it would be going back over old ground that if you delay measures by say a week then you let infection back in. They don't seem to have learnt that you can't delay stuff. If it needs doing it needs doing and you have to ride rough shod over the doubters.
If you follow the logic this is the right thing to do ?
They decided face coverings in shops would be compulsory but then waited 11 days"
So you agree there should be a notice period ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s bloody crazy , the Canary Islands are no where near Spain , there have been only a few cases on the islands , you cannot go to Spain unless it’s essential travel but we can go to the canary’s but have to isolate when we come home , there’s more people catching COVID in Sandwell and Birmingham then the whole of the canaries |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it"
So potentially bring the virus from Spain, through Gibraltar and into UK....great.... |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"It’s bloody crazy , the Canary Islands are no where near Spain , there have been only a few cases on the islands , you cannot go to Spain unless it’s essential travel but we can go to the canary’s but have to isolate when we come home , there’s more people catching COVID in Sandwell and Birmingham then the whole of the canaries "
no i think you can go to Spain on holiday now? well my mate just flew in yesterday |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"It’s bloody crazy , the Canary Islands are no where near Spain , there have been only a few cases on the islands , you cannot go to Spain unless it’s essential travel but we can go to the canary’s but have to isolate when we come home , there’s more people catching COVID in Sandwell and Birmingham then the whole of the canaries "
I agree, doesn't make sense, does it  |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"It’s bloody crazy , the Canary Islands are no where near Spain , there have been only a few cases on the islands , you cannot go to Spain unless it’s essential travel but we can go to the canary’s but have to isolate when we come home , there’s more people catching COVID in Sandwell and Birmingham then the whole of the canaries
no i think you can go to Spain on holiday now? well my mate just flew in yesterday "
The foreign office are advising against non essential travel, to Spanish mainland, so if people choose to travel, their travel insurance will be void. Also how long will it be before Spain reciprocates and enforces quarantine in their country and islands?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s bloody crazy , the Canary Islands are no where near Spain , there have been only a few cases on the islands , you cannot go to Spain unless it’s essential travel but we can go to the canary’s but have to isolate when we come home , there’s more people catching COVID in Sandwell and Birmingham then the whole of the canaries
I agree, doesn't make sense, does it "
Well it does actually. It's the covid sense where we are all made to wear a mask even though some of us live in places where you are more likely to get 4 numbers on the lottery than catch it.
I think the word common sense should be replaced with covid sense.
It's a question of suck it up dudes. Enjoy your holiday. |
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it
Very responsible. Not.
No and as mentioned not in my plans but seems very possible for anyone who decided to"
Yes there are lots of loopholes and grey areas. I suppose for me as i see the only way our of this is to reduce and contain the infection... I'd rather look at ways and take my part of the responsibility to do that, than find loopholes that allow me to potentially continue the spread of the infection. |
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"I think everyone coming in on flights since March 23 should have been tested and isolated until they got a negative result. "
Yes. But we didn't. So... How about do it right now.
We have this huge testing capacity. Better still do it at the departing airport. Obs can't do all airports but the 20bbusiest ones would cover 80 percent of the traffic. |
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The Gib loophole was stopped during their lockdown. If you didn’t have resedencia then you were not allowed to cross into Spain.
Spain plays hard and fast with the border so it won’t take much to stop. |
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it
So potentially bring the virus from Spain, through Gibraltar and into UK....great...."
Anyone who's been to Gibraltar often enough knows you have quite a high chance of landing in Málaga anyway |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it"
Except that Border Control already know about this so called 'loophole' so it ain't that smart a move anyway.
Is your friend coming from Spain through Gibraltar? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s important to separate science and business on this.
They wanted to reboot the travel industry so they lifted restrictions.
The science says that’s mental. "
I don't think they did. Probably what the scientists said is that travel could be reinstated but there are risks involved and I bet if you look in the measures it'll say somewhere that quarantine measure can be reinstated at short notice.
You know back in March everyone on here who hates the government policies said that lockdown should have come a week earlier and stranded well over a million people abroad. Now the've stranded 100,000 people abroad at short notice the same people will be up in arms and condemning them for that. What should they have done. Not let them go abroad ?
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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it"
It has actually as you have to say/show where you were for the previous 14 days |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously."
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though |
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it
Except that Border Control already know about this so called 'loophole' so it ain't that smart a move anyway.
Is your friend coming from Spain through Gibraltar? "
No he lives in Gibraltar |
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Big overreaction to all of this. Illogical decision by the U.K. government as usual. I feel for the holidaymakers in Spain, or those who’d planned to go after the government announced they could, who’ve had their plans thrown into turmoil. It’s not right.
I flew out to Rhodes on Wednesday and it’s a lot more chilled here. Just restaurant staff wearing these cool looking face guards that cover their lower face.
Other than that it’s business as usual, with everything open and getting busier by the day  |
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though "
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday."
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok  |
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok "
I've seen the figures, I know how to interpret them, thank you. We're doing ok but deteriorating with the potential for an explosion in cases. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"I’m looking at worldometer and our 7-day average has flattened and creeping up slightly."
slight peak here and there, alot too fo with increased testing and all thats opening up again but we are doing ok definitely |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok
I've seen the figures, I know how to interpret them, thank you. We're doing ok but deteriorating with the potential for an explosion in cases."
we'll speak again in 4 weeks. |
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok
I've seen the figures, I know how to interpret them, thank you. We're doing ok but deteriorating with the potential for an explosion in cases.
we'll speak again in 4 weeks."
Sure will. Level to rising with distancing being eased... |
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By *on12xx OP Man
over a year ago
leeds |
"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok
I've seen the figures, I know how to interpret them, thank you. We're doing ok but deteriorating with the potential for an explosion in cases.
we'll speak again in 4 weeks."
What planet you on
Open your eyes |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok
I've seen the figures, I know how to interpret them, thank you. We're doing ok but deteriorating with the potential for an explosion in cases.
we'll speak again in 4 weeks.
What planet you on
Open your eyes "
same planet as you! |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok
I've seen the figures, I know how to interpret them, thank you. We're doing ok but deteriorating with the potential for an explosion in cases.
we'll speak again in 4 weeks.
Sure will. Level to rising with distancing being eased..."
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok
I've seen the figures, I know how to interpret them, thank you. We're doing ok but deteriorating with the potential for an explosion in cases.
we'll speak again in 4 weeks.
What planet you on
Open your eyes "
The planet where it doesn't matter and we're all overreacting. What's tens of thousands of deaths and the potential for much more long term disability compared to the plight of not going to the pub or fucking strangers, hey? |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok
I've seen the figures, I know how to interpret them, thank you. We're doing ok but deteriorating with the potential for an explosion in cases.
we'll speak again in 4 weeks.
What planet you on
Open your eyes
The planet where it doesn't matter and we're all overreacting. What's tens of thousands of deaths and the potential for much more long term disability compared to the plight of not going to the pub or fucking strangers, hey?"
hope your having a lovely weekend |
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok
I've seen the figures, I know how to interpret them, thank you. We're doing ok but deteriorating with the potential for an explosion in cases.
we'll speak again in 4 weeks.
What planet you on
Open your eyes
The planet where it doesn't matter and we're all overreacting. What's tens of thousands of deaths and the potential for much more long term disability compared to the plight of not going to the pub or fucking strangers, hey?
hope your having a lovely weekend "
Sure am. Doing my bit to help my community |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok
I've seen the figures, I know how to interpret them, thank you. We're doing ok but deteriorating with the potential for an explosion in cases.
we'll speak again in 4 weeks.
What planet you on
Open your eyes
The planet where it doesn't matter and we're all overreacting. What's tens of thousands of deaths and the potential for much more long term disability compared to the plight of not going to the pub or fucking strangers, hey?
hope your having a lovely weekend
Sure am. Doing my bit to help my community "
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"Hope you right
But think wrong
as posted on another topic. the week on week figures/trends are generally falling, slowly but surely but the data tells us this"
In Scotland the number of positive cases week ending 11 July was 56 cases; 18 July was 67; 25 July is 146.
It was going down, but pubs, shops and restaurants are now open. People are travelling all round the country on staycations. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"Hope you right
But think wrong
as posted on another topic. the week on week figures/trends are generally falling, slowly but surely but the data tells us this
In Scotland the number of positive cases week ending 11 July was 56 cases; 18 July was 67; 25 July is 146.
It was going down, but pubs, shops and restaurants are now open. People are travelling all round the country on staycations. "
plus a huge increase in testing. its not over but compared to 7/8 weeks ago we are getting there slowly but surely |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The reasons the numbers goes up is cos they have relaxed the lockdown all over the world and let people travel again. I am in favour of another few more months of a lockdown, people should take responsibility and not travel during thede times. |
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok "
We may be doing OK in your opinion. But the rolling 7 day average is increasing and for both deaths and infections. So it's not accurate to say it is decreasing. It bottomed out at 62 and is 67 now. For infections it bottomed at 554 and now its 668. Semantics I admit but if the accurate info is there we may as well use it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Belgium 85.65
United Kingdom 68.35
Spain 60.57
Italy 58.14
Sweden 55.48
France 45.04
Ireland 35.95
Netherlands 35.52
Luxembourg 18.24
Portugal 16.59
Germany 10.97
Romania 10.95
Denmark 10.54
Above was published yesterday and is the rate of deaths percapita around Europe. The UK may be experiencing a slowing of cases recorded but I don't think we have any reason at at all to be complacent and I don't think there is much faith in this government if we have to deal with a second wave |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The reasons the numbers goes up is cos they have relaxed the lockdown all over the world and let people travel again. I am in favour of another few more months of a lockdown, people should take responsibility and not travel during thede times."
Also, the brits have to stay in quarentine as well in return from their holiday for 2 weeks, is it really worth that time?
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday."
I have the Zoe covid research app and report daily,it's a fantastic source of information and a great way to access unconfirmed cases.
I got sent a test via the app because I had shortness of breath, thankfully negative but I wouldn't have been tested otherwise.
I think if everyone reported daily they would see any increase far quicker.
And you're right, the app is finding cases are rising. |
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
I have the Zoe covid research app and report daily,it's a fantastic source of information and a great way to access unconfirmed cases.
I got sent a test via the app because I had shortness of breath, thankfully negative but I wouldn't have been tested otherwise.
I think if everyone reported daily they would see any increase far quicker.
And you're right, the app is finding cases are rising."
Yes, cross check with ONS (the Independent Sage briefing includes a section at the start where they pull the data together) |
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
I have the Zoe covid research app and report daily,it's a fantastic source of information and a great way to access unconfirmed cases.
I got sent a test via the app because I had shortness of breath, thankfully negative but I wouldn't have been tested otherwise.
I think if everyone reported daily they would see any increase far quicker.
And you're right, the app is finding cases are rising.
Yes, cross check with ONS (the Independent Sage briefing includes a section at the start where they pull the data together)"
I've watched a few of the independent sage meetings, they are very interesting and really glad they are available to watch for anyone,helps us to get a far better understanding of what's going on. |
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
I have the Zoe covid research app and report daily,it's a fantastic source of information and a great way to access unconfirmed cases.
I got sent a test via the app because I had shortness of breath, thankfully negative but I wouldn't have been tested otherwise.
I think if everyone reported daily they would see any increase far quicker.
And you're right, the app is finding cases are rising.
Yes, cross check with ONS (the Independent Sage briefing includes a section at the start where they pull the data together)
I've watched a few of the independent sage meetings, they are very interesting and really glad they are available to watch for anyone,helps us to get a far better understanding of what's going on."
My other source, my biggest one, is the podcast This Week in Virology. Big time commitment and American based but incredibly informative. |
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
I have the Zoe covid research app and report daily,it's a fantastic source of information and a great way to access unconfirmed cases.
I got sent a test via the app because I had shortness of breath, thankfully negative but I wouldn't have been tested otherwise.
I think if everyone reported daily they would see any increase far quicker.
And you're right, the app is finding cases are rising.
Yes, cross check with ONS (the Independent Sage briefing includes a section at the start where they pull the data together)
I've watched a few of the independent sage meetings, they are very interesting and really glad they are available to watch for anyone,helps us to get a far better understanding of what's going on.
My other source, my biggest one, is the podcast This Week in Virology. Big time commitment and American based but incredibly informative."
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"Fly to Gibraltar, cross the border, have your Spanish holiday, back to Gibraltar fly home no need to isolate.
Not been thought through has it"
Have you checked the declaration that travellers make? I'd assume that it would check for the countries that have been travelled in. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"The data suggests our figures are heading back up again. Whether it's spikes or something worse I have no idea.
It would be prudent to keep our heads down and take this seriously.
they dont... week on week trends show a steady decline. still stay safe though
I'm getting my information from Independent Sage and the Zoe Covid research, correct as of Friday.
yes and look at the last 7/8 weeks figures. we are doing ok "
**”..... we are doing ok ....”**
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That’s what Spain, Australia and a few other countries said a few weeks ago, - only to see the numbers rise again.
That’s not to say it will happen here, but it it possible that it can happen just like it has happened elsewhere.
If we stick to the guidelines as best as possible, it can help prevent any potential spikes.
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We appear to doing fine at the moment and with people's fear of going out I hope cases will be lower. Plus now that local government have the power to lockdown there local areas one hopes it will be easier to tackle but if it isn't I don't mind spending the next three months indoors again but maybe closer to family this time around |
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By *eglieanCouple
over a year ago
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"It’s bloody crazy , the Canary Islands are no where near Spain , there have been only a few cases on the islands , you cannot go to Spain unless it’s essential travel but we can go to the canary’s but have to isolate when we come home , there’s more people catching COVID in Sandwell and Birmingham then the whole of the canaries
I agree, doesn't make sense, does it "
What doesn't make sense? Could be why the canary islands have a low rate and more people are catching it in Brum and sandwell. So they open the doors, brits flood in,,and the islands have to close down again . Screwing it up for a speedy return to fab life. You only have to go to Weymouth, Torquay, Leighton, Bournemouth, to see the so called ,,responsible way people are treating this virus. Absolute nuts, follow the rules and we might,, just might beat it to some degree. All the self styled experts on this soon disappear when proven what they preach about ,no problem, are wrong |
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"If i was UK government, and i was wanting to persuade folks to vacation at home this summer to boost our economy and not Europe's, what would i do, Mmmmmm, let me have a little think about it for a while "
Fortunately there's other data to look at. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"It’s bloody crazy , the Canary Islands are no where near Spain , there have been only a few cases on the islands , you cannot go to Spain unless it’s essential travel but we can go to the canary’s but have to isolate when we come home , there’s more people catching COVID in Sandwell and Birmingham then the whole of the canaries
I agree, doesn't make sense, does it
What doesn't make sense? Could be why the canary islands have a low rate and more people are catching it in Brum and sandwell. So they open the doors, brits flood in,,and the islands have to close down again . Screwing it up for a speedy return to fab life. You only have to go to Weymouth, Torquay, Leighton, Bournemouth, to see the so called ,,responsible way people are treating this virus. Absolute nuts, follow the rules and we might,, just might beat it to some degree. All the self styled experts on this soon disappear when proven what they preach about ,no problem, are wrong"
My comment was responding to it doesn't make sense that we have to quarantine when arriving back from canary islands as the infection rate is so low...
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"It’s bloody crazy , the Canary Islands are no where near Spain , there have been only a few cases on the islands , you cannot go to Spain unless it’s essential travel but we can go to the canary’s but have to isolate when we come home , there’s more people catching COVID in Sandwell and Birmingham then the whole of the canaries
I agree, doesn't make sense, does it
What doesn't make sense? Could be why the canary islands have a low rate and more people are catching it in Brum and sandwell. So they open the doors, brits flood in,,and the islands have to close down again . Screwing it up for a speedy return to fab life. You only have to go to Weymouth, Torquay, Leighton, Bournemouth, to see the so called ,,responsible way people are treating this virus. Absolute nuts, follow the rules and we might,, just might beat it to some degree. All the self styled experts on this soon disappear when proven what they preach about ,no problem, are wrong
My comment was responding to it doesn't make sense that we have to quarantine when arriving back from canary islands as the infection rate is so low..
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I think if we hit a second wave here it will be the UK citizens that will be either refused entry or asked to quarantine when travelling to other countries. The way this government has handled this virus I would not be surprised if the UK goes from second on the worst record table to top spot.
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Sooner or later we are all going to have to take our chances with this virus. We can’t go on forever disrupting everyone’s lives and wrecking the economy with lockdowns, quarantines and social distancing.
Normality has to come back.
If it doesn’t people will eventually start ignoring the rules and doing what they want in defiance of the regulations.
Some might say it’s already happening here and there. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Sooner or later we are all going to have to take our chances with this virus. We can’t go on forever disrupting everyone’s lives and wrecking the economy with lockdowns, quarantines and social distancing.
Normality has to come back.
If it doesn’t people will eventually start ignoring the rules and doing what they want in defiance of the regulations.
Some might say it’s already happening here and there. "
You are right, some of these countries and islands rely on tourism |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"Sooner or later we are all going to have to take our chances with this virus. We can’t go on forever disrupting everyone’s lives and wrecking the economy with lockdowns, quarantines and social distancing.
Normality has to come back.
If it doesn’t people will eventually start ignoring the rules and doing what they want in defiance of the regulations.
Some might say it’s already happening here and there. "
**"...ignoring the rules and doing what they want....Some might say it’s already happening here and there..."**
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Which explains why there is a rise in infections here and there.
I understand your point though. |
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"Wow, even when the data shows that we are in a far better position, people still can't be positive!
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Scotland doing ok and positive up at this end of Britain, not so sure could remain positive with Boris in charge. |
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"The reasons the numbers goes up is cos they have relaxed the lockdown all over the world and let people travel again. I am in favour of another few more months of a lockdown, people should take responsibility and not travel during thede times.Also, the brits have to stay in quarentine as well in return from their holiday for 2 weeks, is it really worth that time?"
i dont think you have to restrict peoples movements , you just have to quarantine then when they get back , if that doesn’t fit peoples life then fof the time being its unfortunately tough luck and if you take the risk and go snd then have to quarantine when you get back, again tough luck ... insurance policies could add optional clauses where your 2 week wage is covered when you get back if it happens while you are out of the country, would push the premium up but then people would feel less of a risk or just as they can now choose not to go
personally i live at home alone, work from home now permanently and am sick of the sight of my flat ... unless they cancel the flight i will be taking my canaries trip in september ... specifically picked an air bnb with a balcony big enough for loungers so even if i have to quarantine both sides i will be able to responsibly enjoy the weather and change of scenery |
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Do you think we are just a couple of weeks behind them?
I do
i dont. are figures nowere near theres, we'll be fine apart from a few local 'outbreaks' which hopefully people dont lose their minds over
2 week ago, Spain had cases around the 500-600 a day. That's EXACTLY where we are now. Their rates had dropped to 100-300 a day.
Hopefully we'll be more like Italy and Germany who appear to be avoiding a 2nd spike at the moment as cases level for 4-6 weeks now."
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
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"The reasons the numbers goes up is cos they have relaxed the lockdown all over the world and let people travel again. I am in favour of another few more months of a lockdown, people should take responsibility and not travel during thede times.Also, the brits have to stay in quarentine as well in return from their holiday for 2 weeks, is it really worth that time?
i dont think you have to restrict peoples movements , you just have to quarantine then when they get back , if that doesn’t fit peoples life then fof the time being its unfortunately tough luck and if you take the risk and go snd then have to quarantine when you get back, again tough luck ... insurance policies could add optional clauses where your 2 week wage is covered when you get back if it happens while you are out of the country, would push the premium up but then people would feel less of a risk or just as they can now choose not to go
personally i live at home alone, work from home now permanently and am sick of the sight of my flat ... unless they cancel the flight i will be taking my canaries trip in september ... specifically picked an air bnb with a balcony big enough for loungers so even if i have to quarantine both sides i will be able to responsibly enjoy the weather and change of scenery "
i hope it all turns out ok for you..m you seem like you deserve a enjoyable holiday xx |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"Anyone who flys into the uk should do 14 days in isolation in a airport hotel and pick up the bill when they leave after they test negative of course how would you like that
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I actually agree with this. |
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"Anyone who flys into the uk should do 14 days in isolation in a airport hotel and pick up the bill when they leave after they test negative of course how would you like that
I actually agree with this."
No probs whatsoever with this in fact we fly out on Thursday and return on 6th August and are actually thinking of booking into a hotel for 14 days on return as it will save the hassle of ordering food etc The only issue is hotels might not be so keen on letting people quarantine. Fingers crossed they will tho. |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"Anyone who flys into the uk should do 14 days in isolation in a airport hotel and pick up the bill when they leave after they test negative of course how would you like that
I actually agree with this.
No probs whatsoever with this in fact we fly out on Thursday and return on 6th August and are actually thinking of booking into a hotel for 14 days on return as it will save the hassle of ordering food etc The only issue is hotels might not be so keen on letting people quarantine. Fingers crossed they will tho."
It's literally all about doing what's right in the circumstances, alot of people would come back and not bother with quarantine and cause an outbreak. |
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"Anyone who flys into the uk should do 14 days in isolation in a airport hotel and pick up the bill when they leave after they test negative of course how would you like that
I actually agree with this.
No probs whatsoever with this in fact we fly out on Thursday and return on 6th August and are actually thinking of booking into a hotel for 14 days on return as it will save the hassle of ordering food etc The only issue is hotels might not be so keen on letting people quarantine. Fingers crossed they will tho.
It's literally all about doing what's right in the circumstances, alot of people would come back and not bother with quarantine and cause an outbreak. "
We pretty much quarantine anyway, we shop once a week which we could avoid and the rest of the time we walk, cycle and drive. Rarely do we interact unless we have to.
There's plenty to do round the house for two weeks anyway.
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"Anyone who flys into the uk should do 14 days in isolation in a airport hotel and pick up the bill when they leave after they test negative of course how would you like that
I actually agree with this.
No probs whatsoever with this in fact we fly out on Thursday and return on 6th August and are actually thinking of booking into a hotel for 14 days on return as it will save the hassle of ordering food etc The only issue is hotels might not be so keen on letting people quarantine. Fingers crossed they will tho.
It's literally all about doing what's right in the circumstances, alot of people would come back and not bother with quarantine and cause an outbreak.
We pretty much quarantine anyway, we shop once a week which we could avoid and the rest of the time we walk, cycle and drive. Rarely do we interact unless we have to.
There's plenty to do round the house for two weeks anyway.
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An extra long holiday |
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"Anyone who flys into the uk should do 14 days in isolation in a airport hotel and pick up the bill when they leave after they test negative of course how would you like that
I actually agree with this."
That is a rediculous suggestion. There does need some clarity about travel, the country needs travel, all countries do and some more than others who rely on tourism. There must be a better way to facilitate travel between country's, it could be a procedure of exact testing on entry and exit at airports. Nations should have the means to do this instead of asking people to quarantine, that will just kill international travel. |
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"Anyone who flys into the uk should do 14 days in isolation in a airport hotel and pick up the bill when they leave after they test negative of course how would you like that
I actually agree with this.
No probs whatsoever with this in fact we fly out on Thursday and return on 6th August and are actually thinking of booking into a hotel for 14 days on return as it will save the hassle of ordering food etc The only issue is hotels might not be so keen on letting people quarantine. Fingers crossed they will tho.
It's literally all about doing what's right in the circumstances, alot of people would come back and not bother with quarantine and cause an outbreak.
We pretty much quarantine anyway, we shop once a week which we could avoid and the rest of the time we walk, cycle and drive. Rarely do we interact unless we have to.
There's plenty to do round the house for two weeks anyway.
An extra long holiday "
Fortunately we don't suffer from the "work" affliction |
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"Anyone who flys into the uk should do 14 days in isolation in a airport hotel and pick up the bill when they leave after they test negative of course how would you like that
I actually agree with this.
No probs whatsoever with this in fact we fly out on Thursday and return on 6th August and are actually thinking of booking into a hotel for 14 days on return as it will save the hassle of ordering food etc The only issue is hotels might not be so keen on letting people quarantine. Fingers crossed they will tho.
It's literally all about doing what's right in the circumstances, alot of people would come back and not bother with quarantine and cause an outbreak.
We pretty much quarantine anyway, we shop once a week which we could avoid and the rest of the time we walk, cycle and drive. Rarely do we interact unless we have to.
There's plenty to do round the house for two weeks anyway.
An extra long holiday
Fortunately we don't suffer from the "work" affliction "
We fly to Australia on the 12 August when we land we are taken by bus to a hotel room where we can not leave the room for 14 day meals are brought to the room we are tested 3 times during our time in isolation
Then we are presented with a bill for $3700 for our stay if we are negative we can then leave the hotel
If it saves one life it’s worth it
Be like 2 weeks in a posh prison
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?"
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave"
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth? |
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over a year ago
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They need a quicker covid test. Test people when they arrive at the airport. Test results negative means they are allowed to fly. Safer for people on the plane.
Bit shit if you caught it and didn't know and so can't travel I suppose. 
Hmmm infectious people could also be infecting people in the airport lines. No answers. Glad I'm not Boris. |
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth? "
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness |
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave"
That's right but a massive second spike ? Really ? |
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
That's right but a massive second spike ? Really ? "
I hope not but I don't think we can ignore the fact that this virus is still with us and will be for the foreseeable future, it has not gone it has been nullified by measures taken, but if a virus still exists it has the ability to strike again |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness"
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom. |
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"They should have grounded all flights at the start and made people ware masks ,not 3 monthes down the lane. They were still flying businessmen out when it was lock down ,."
That's why other nations have fared better, bungling Boris has been behind the "curve" in all aspects of this |
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom."
Agreed but it seems some people thrive on the doom and gloom. |
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"They should have grounded all flights at the start and made people ware masks ,not 3 monthes down the lane. They were still flying businessmen out when it was lock down ,."
And fruit pickers , where I work a Romanian man went home for a week and was able to fly back to the uk without being tested , it’s been a farce , same as face masks in shops and on public transport, should of been from the start |
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom.
Agreed but it seems some people thrive on the doom and gloom."
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom."
Yes and some that are easing restrictions have seen an increase in cases. Just making the point that this virus is with us maybe for good and as shit as it is if people act responsinly we can contain it |
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It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom.
Yes and some that are easing restrictions have seen an increase in cases. Just making the point that this virus is with us maybe for good and as shit as it is if people act responsinly we can contain it"
Yeah, I want to get this over with as much as anyone. But that requires containment, understanding risk, risk management, effective therapeutics, and widespread vaccine uptake if/ when one becomes available.
Just thinking positive will just prolong this crap. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom.
Yes and some that are easing restrictions have seen an increase in cases. Just making the point that this virus is with us maybe for good and as shit as it is if people act responsinly we can contain it
Yeah, I want to get this over with as much as anyone. But that requires containment, understanding risk, risk management, effective therapeutics, and widespread vaccine uptake if/ when one becomes available.
Just thinking positive will just prolong this crap."
Your right but this government has not got a clue, and I would just be as critical if it was Labour that were making a mess of things. Take New Zealands premier who is light years ahead of our politicians in everything she does. Having hope for a future often derives from strong leadership. I almost said strong and stable there ha!! But fek she was even worse?? |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom.
Agreed but it seems some people thrive on the doom and gloom."
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom.
Yes and some that are easing restrictions have seen an increase in cases. Just making the point that this virus is with us maybe for good and as shit as it is if people act responsinly we can contain it"
There are also places that haven't seen an increase in cases after easing restrictions. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom.
Yes and some that are easing restrictions have seen an increase in cases. Just making the point that this virus is with us maybe for good and as shit as it is if people act responsinly we can contain it
There are also places that haven't seen an increase in cases after easing restrictions. "
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom.
Yes and some that are easing restrictions have seen an increase in cases. Just making the point that this virus is with us maybe for good and as shit as it is if people act responsinly we can contain it
Yeah, I want to get this over with as much as anyone. But that requires containment, understanding risk, risk management, effective therapeutics, and widespread vaccine uptake if/ when one becomes available.
Just thinking positive will just prolong this crap.
Your right but this government has not got a clue, and I would just be as critical if it was Labour that were making a mess of things. Take New Zealands premier who is light years ahead of our politicians in everything she does. Having hope for a future often derives from strong leadership. I almost said strong and stable there ha!! But fek she was even worse??"
Sure.
This will require adequate government intervention as well. I fear that's not coming. I do everything I can to protect myself and those around me. And I'll talk about my understanding. If that makes me a doom and gloom merchant, so be it. I'm sure the virus is delighted by uninformed positivity. |
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"They should have grounded all flights at the start and made people ware masks ,not 3 monthes down the lane. They were still flying businessmen out when it was lock down ,.
And fruit pickers , where I work a Romanian man went home for a week and was able to fly back to the uk without being tested , it’s been a farce , same as face masks in shops and on public transport, should of been from the start "
what i cant understand is when people moan about people not being quarantined off a flight on one hand while saying we have to get the economy going in the other hand ... i could take a trip to manchester and catch it just as easily as i could a trip to romania ... hell i could catch it on a trip to asda
testing sure ... but unless we were virus free and therefore the aim was to keep the virus out , locking people up in hotels just seems a colossal waste of time and money |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom.
Yes and some that are easing restrictions have seen an increase in cases. Just making the point that this virus is with us maybe for good and as shit as it is if people act responsinly we can contain it
Yeah, I want to get this over with as much as anyone. But that requires containment, understanding risk, risk management, effective therapeutics, and widespread vaccine uptake if/ when one becomes available.
Just thinking positive will just prolong this crap.
Your right but this government has not got a clue, and I would just be as critical if it was Labour that were making a mess of things. Take New Zealands premier who is light years ahead of our politicians in everything she does. Having hope for a future often derives from strong leadership. I almost said strong and stable there ha!! But fek she was even worse??
Sure.
This will require adequate government intervention as well. I fear that's not coming. I do everything I can to protect myself and those around me. And I'll talk about my understanding. If that makes me a doom and gloom merchant, so be it. I'm sure the virus is delighted by uninformed positivity."
We both caught in april courtesy of the nhs.
So our outlook on the virus is a little different I suppose. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"They should have grounded all flights at the start and made people ware masks ,not 3 monthes down the lane. They were still flying businessmen out when it was lock down ,.
And fruit pickers , where I work a Romanian man went home for a week and was able to fly back to the uk without being tested , it’s been a farce , same as face masks in shops and on public transport, should of been from the start
what i cant understand is when people moan about people not being quarantined off a flight on one hand while saying we have to get the economy going in the other hand ... i could take a trip to manchester and catch it just as easily as i could a trip to romania ... hell i could catch it on a trip to asda
testing sure ... but unless we were virus free and therefore the aim was to keep the virus out , locking people up in hotels just seems a colossal waste of time and money "
it is |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom.
Yes and some that are easing restrictions have seen an increase in cases. Just making the point that this virus is with us maybe for good and as shit as it is if people act responsinly we can contain it
There are also places that haven't seen an increase in cases after easing restrictions. "
Yes I think this must be an ultra intelligent virus that chooses where it travels and infects, ha!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I caught it in May and am still suffering."
I the mr took 4 weeks to get other it.
But strangely the mrs who has asthma flew through it no problems about from dizziness. |
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"I caught it in May and am still suffering.
I the mr took 4 weeks to get other it.
But strangely the mrs who has asthma flew through it no problems about from dizziness. "
It's hard to predict.
I want everyone to get back to normal. I really do. I want to get better.
But I want this virus to piss off and stop hurting people |
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"I caught it in May and am still suffering.
I the mr took 4 weeks to get other it.
But strangely the mrs who has asthma flew through it no problems about from dizziness.
It's hard to predict.
I want everyone to get back to normal. I really do. I want to get better.
But I want this virus to piss off and stop hurting people"
I'm sure you will as you said it good to question things, nothing wrong with that and we will get back to some sort of normality soon as long as people act responsibly |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"Maybe now people will take this virus seriously
It's not gone away and on verge of massive 2nd spike
People acting like things back to normal!!!
Massive second spike ?
Says who ?
You ?
Cases are increasing around the world, it is only by measures like social distancing that the virus can be kept under control lack of acknowledgement that this virus will be with us for a few years yet will only lead to a second wave
How do you know for a fact that all you say is the truth?
I am going on what I read and what I listen to by real experts. This is not rocket science, it is a pandemic, a highly contagious illness
Many countries have cases and deaths on a downward trend. It isn't all doom and gloom.
Yes and some that are easing restrictions have seen an increase in cases. Just making the point that this virus is with us maybe for good and as shit as it is if people act responsinly we can contain it
There are also places that haven't seen an increase in cases after easing restrictions.
Yes I think this must be an ultra intelligent virus that chooses where it travels and infects, ha!! "
Or, some countries are doing things in the right way. |
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"They should have grounded all flights at the start and made people ware masks ,not 3 monthes down the lane. They were still flying businessmen out when it was lock down ,.
And fruit pickers , where I work a Romanian man went home for a week and was able to fly back to the uk without being tested , it’s been a farce , same as face masks in shops and on public transport, should of been from the start
what i cant understand is when people moan about people not being quarantined off a flight on one hand while saying we have to get the economy going in the other hand ... i could take a trip to manchester and catch it just as easily as i could a trip to romania ... hell i could catch it on a trip to asda
testing sure ... but unless we were virus free and therefore the aim was to keep the virus out , locking people up in hotels just seems a colossal waste of time and money "
It’s working in Australia only Melbourne is failing after private security firm where fucking with the women to left them out that coursed the rise now it is being policed correctly |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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There will be constant spikes, here, there and everywhere from now on and localised lockdowns because we have to live with it without a vaccine. I can’t see it resulting in a full lockdown again though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The virus was always going to come back to a certain degree but needsto be handled differently this time both in terms of the economy and how it effects society. No panic but no trying to ignore it too
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There will be seconds. The trend around the world has been soon after students go back to school or uni. Why will it be any different here? The second group will be holiday makers, traveling and mingling as they relax. A higher risk group as a result whether we like it or not.
We have to learn to live with it as we've done with other things like the flu. It will become part of life.
A vaccine if we get one will help but won't solve things. There will be outbreaks again, maybe new strains. We've had viruses before we'll get them again, maybe even worse as globalization and ease of travel facilitates the spread of infection far worse than ever before.
Adaptating and managing it is where we're at.
Evolution in current form. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
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"There will be constant spikes, here, there and everywhere from now on and localised lockdowns because we have to live with it without a vaccine. I can’t see it resulting in a full lockdown again though. "
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