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"Ffs a synopsis of any link put up should be mandatory. "  | |||
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"Well anyone who has traveled there for holls is in for a bit of a shock when they get back! That’s the chance you take when you just have to go abroad " As long as its lifted by December for the canarys then happy days. | |||
"Shengen means this will carry on longer than it should " What has Schengen got to do with it? | |||
"Well anyone who has traveled there for holls is in for a bit of a shock when they get back! That’s the chance you take when you just have to go abroad As long as its lifted by December for the canarys then happy days."  | |||
"Ffs a synopsis of any link put up should be mandatory. " Travellers returning to the UK from Spain will have to quarantine for 14 days from Sunday, the BBC understands. It is believed the measures will come into force in the early hours of Sunday. The UK government is expected to announce the change imminently, due to a significant spike in coronavirus cases in Spain. Spain has warned a second wave could be imminent as cities including Madrid and Barcelona have seen cases surge. | |||
"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53540691" Ohhhh crap. It was bound to happen. Other countries will follow and Boris will do the same. New Normal.  | |||
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"Ffs a synopsis of any link put up should be mandatory. Travellers returning to the UK from Spain will have to quarantine for 14 days from Sunday, the BBC understands. It is believed the measures will come into force in the early hours of Sunday. The UK government is expected to announce the change imminently, due to a significant spike in coronavirus cases in Spain. Spain has warned a second wave could be imminent as cities including Madrid and Barcelona have seen cases surge." Thank you | |||
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"I wonder why this new spike is happening ? Is it air conditioning perhaps as spain has been experiencing some very high temperatures recently ?" The rise in cases has been mainly in the younger age bracket, hence the closing down of clubs, etc., as view is that they've been partying in bars, clubs and on beaches without practising social distancing... | |||
"Well anyone who has traveled there for holls is in for a bit of a shock when they get back! That’s the chance you take when you just have to go abroad " And how many will throw their toys out of their prams, and demand that the government pays for everything... ....more worrying is how many will ignore the quarantine, and return to work etc... | |||
"Gran Canaria may be exempt....after all if Britain was locked down, it does not necessarily means the Falklands are!" True but France is open but unfortunately St Martin isn’t | |||
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"Well anyone who has traveled there for holls is in for a bit of a shock when they get back! That’s the chance you take when you just have to go abroad And how many will throw their toys out of their prams, and demand that the government pays for everything... ....more worrying is how many will ignore the quarantine, and return to work etc..." Do they even do a check on anyone who's quarantined? | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. " We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. | |||
"Do they even do a check on anyone who's quarantined? " There are 'spot checks', apparently, where someone can turn up to make sure you're actually where you say you'll be - but don't think that they've caught anyone yet... | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it." 2800?? | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it." Had all our flights cancelled that we had booked even our end of August one cancelled the other day by Jet2 so we can’t even get out there let alone pass anything on Lol. The forum was relating to a place in Spain being locked down that as very few Brit visitors but we still get the blame, nothing to do with the Spanish that live inland now deciding to holiday and hit the clubs on the coast of course. | |||
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"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800?? " Not deaths...uk infections yesterday. . | |||
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"Ffs a synopsis of any link put up should be mandatory. " Don't you have Google It's a 24 hour ban for linking to the government website | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800?? Not deaths...uk infections yesterday. . " but 767 new infections in UK today though was reported | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800?? Not deaths...uk infections yesterday. . but 767 new infections in UK today though was reported " My reliable source.. he very good on facts. About 8 minutes into video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qPdH8BCMes | |||
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"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases." | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases." Look above ^^^ | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases. "So you didn't bother with link eh  | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh "no need. its wrong | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong"Why ask then | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then "i corrected you. | |||
"Well anyone who has traveled there for holls is in for a bit of a shock when they get back! That’s the chance you take when you just have to go abroad And how many will throw their toys out of their prams, and demand that the government pays for everything... ....more worrying is how many will ignore the quarantine, and return to work etc..." This!! | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you." | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. " apparently where the first wave of german tourists who when to the canaries as an experiment kept to the rules of what they could/couldn't do, the first waves of british tourists are not.... don't know why i am not surprised! | |||
"apparently where the first wave of german tourists who when to the canaries as an experiment kept to the rules of what they could/couldn't do, the first waves of british tourists are not.... don't know why i am not surprised!" Not hugely surprising having seen the way that some people behave over here. | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. apparently where the first wave of german tourists who when to the canaries as an experiment kept to the rules of what they could/couldn't do, the first waves of british tourists are not.... don't know why i am not surprised! " I heard the initial outbreaks in Spain came from the care homes, slaughterhouses and the seasonal workers from Morocco who live in overcrowded houses in Spain which makes social distancing a little difficult, not sure how the brits fit into these three categories, cases are also rising in Spanish teenagers and from what I’ve seen teenagers don’t social distance at the best of times let alone when they get to go clubbing which appears to have been another contributing factor in Barcelona. | |||
"Ffs a synopsis of any link put up should be mandatory. Don't you have Google It's a 24 hour ban for linking to the government website" It isn't. | |||
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"Transport Minister , Grant Shapps will have to go in quarantine when he returns from his Spanish holiday ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "some people" may have thought that a member of the UK government insisting we leave the EU while seeing the damage that the covid pandemic has caused to our tourist industry might have supported a British hotel , camp site or B&B and spent his holiday money on our shores " He'll be exempt from quarantine, Cummings will say he's special | |||
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"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. apparently where the first wave of german tourists who when to the canaries as an experiment kept to the rules of what they could/couldn't do, the first waves of british tourists are not.... don't know why i am not surprised! I heard the initial outbreaks in Spain came from the care homes, slaughterhouses and the seasonal workers from Morocco who live in overcrowded houses in Spain which makes social distancing a little difficult, not sure how the brits fit into these three categories, cases are also rising in Spanish teenagers and from what I’ve seen teenagers don’t social distance at the best of times let alone when they get to go clubbing which appears to have been another contributing factor in Barcelona. " Shhhhh that doesn't fit the narrative that us British are to blame for it all. | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. apparently where the first wave of german tourists who when to the canaries as an experiment kept to the rules of what they could/couldn't do, the first waves of british tourists are not.... don't know why i am not surprised! I heard the initial outbreaks in Spain came from the care homes, slaughterhouses and the seasonal workers from Morocco who live in overcrowded houses in Spain which makes social distancing a little difficult, not sure how the brits fit into these three categories, cases are also rising in Spanish teenagers and from what I’ve seen teenagers don’t social distance at the best of times let alone when they get to go clubbing which appears to have been another contributing factor in Barcelona. " Not surprised us brits get the blame. So much easier than looking at there own population. Not so long ago they were asking to not be on the quarantine list as they wanted the tourists now they blame them. Maybe brevity will be blamed for it next | |||
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"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you."Ah I see you think the only people with Covid in the U.K. are the ones who take the test. Gotcha | |||
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"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you.
Ah I see you think the only people with Covid in the U.K. are the ones who take the test.
Gotcha "so you think guessing is a good way to get figures?? Gotcha! | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you.
Ah I see you think the only people with Covid in the U.K. are the ones who take the test.
Gotcha "So just add an arbitrary number and round it up then ? | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you.
Ah I see you think the only people with Covid in the U.K. are the ones who take the test.
Gotcha "What a strange comment. I'm sure many more people in the uk have both got and has the virus than figures say.. but... we can't say x amount do.. all we can do is Give the results of those that have tested positive. I'm hoping the rear of Europe doesnt end up the same as have a holiday soon | |||
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"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you.
Ah I see you think the only people with Covid in the U.K. are the ones who take the test.
Gotcha
so you think guessing is a good way to get figures?? Gotcha! "It’s not a guess it’s the latest estimate from the ONS | |||
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"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you.
Ah I see you think the only people with Covid in the U.K. are the ones who take the test.
Gotcha
so you think guessing is a good way to get figures?? Gotcha!
It’s not a guess it’s the latest estimate from the ONS"so they say 2800 new infections in UK in one day?? they dont say that. | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you.
Ah I see you think the only people with Covid in the U.K. are the ones who take the test.
Gotcha
so you think guessing is a good way to get figures?? Gotcha!
It’s not a guess it’s the latest estimate from the ONS
so they say 2800 new infections in UK in one day?? they dont say that."2,800 will be an estimate. They estimate that only 1 in 5 cases are identified so the current 500-600 positive cases would give the 2,800 figure. | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you.
Ah I see you think the only people with Covid in the U.K. are the ones who take the test.
Gotcha
so you think guessing is a good way to get figures?? Gotcha!
It’s not a guess it’s the latest estimate from the ONS
so they say 2800 new infections in UK in one day?? they dont say that.
2,800 will be an estimate. They estimate that only 1 in 5 cases are identified so the current 500-600 positive cases would give the 2,800 figure.
"oh well im dealing in reported infections. | |||
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"Shengen means this will carry on longer than it should What has Schengen got to do with it?" Exactly | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you.
Ah I see you think the only people with Covid in the U.K. are the ones who take the test.
Gotcha
so you think guessing is a good way to get figures?? Gotcha!
It’s not a guess it’s the latest estimate from the ONS
so they say 2800 new infections in UK in one day?? they dont say that.
2,800 will be an estimate. They estimate that only 1 in 5 cases are identified so the current 500-600 positive cases would give the 2,800 figure.
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Plus with our slow reporting rates from all labs | |||
"If you have to social distance how does cramming into a plane then getTing cheek to Jowl with Loads of half naked sweaty people all jostling for their space on the beach or at the bar fit in? Or is there more to do in Spain ? " We just wanted to get to our house as not been all year, quite happy to just go the supermarket then stay on our own premises thank you  | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. " To be honest the father in law lives over there and has said since the brits could start coming again they have come, ingored rules moaned and argued when told to mask up.. people are dicks!!! | |||
"Also, regarding returning tourists being required to quarantine. How does the govt expect to check and enforce this? Plus, once thru customs how do they travel to their place of quarantine? Via public transport??" As posted above, enforcement by random spot checks... ....and if unable to travel privately to a nominated address, then quarantine will be at a government-designated place, at the person's (not public)... expense | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you.
Ah I see you think the only people with Covid in the U.K. are the ones who take the test.
Gotcha
so you think guessing is a good way to get figures?? Gotcha!
It’s not a guess it’s the latest estimate from the ONS
so they say 2800 new infections in UK in one day?? they dont say that.
2,800 will be an estimate. They estimate that only 1 in 5 cases are identified so the current 500-600 positive cases would give the 2,800 figure.
"And thus is relevant to quarantine enforcement returning from Spain. How ? | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. We are still getting 2800 new infections per day...so theres a good chance we play a big part in it. 2800, where are you getting your stats from..its been no higher than 800 per day last few weeks and we are testing more people than ever. More tests more cases.
So you didn't bother with link eh
no need. its wrong
Why ask then
i corrected you.
Ah I see you think the only people with Covid in the U.K. are the ones who take the test.
Gotcha
so you think guessing is a good way to get figures?? Gotcha!
It’s not a guess it’s the latest estimate from the ONS
so they say 2800 new infections in UK in one day?? they dont say that.
2,800 will be an estimate. They estimate that only 1 in 5 cases are identified so the current 500-600 positive cases would give the 2,800 figure.
And thus is relevant to quarantine enforcement returning from Spain. How ?"Go to the start...I was a reply to how it could have got to spain.. | |||
"I'm Spanish and this is the very first time I learn that people in Spain blame the UK for the spikes. In the Spanish media and in theconversations with friends and family about, the blame on UK is still to appear (if it, some time, does it so). I'd not regard that opinion as a majority's at all." | |||
"Is it a British thing ? Why is there a need to apportion blame ? We are in a pandemic, we have a new disease that we are struggling to understand and come to terms with. We have locked down the world to try to slow the virus and give us a chance to understand and now we are unlocking the world and trying to deal with the consequences of doing so. Mistakes have been made and more will doubtless be made but here is a other part of the learning process and it seems that some people again feel the need to blame someone else. Grow up people, accept responsibility for your own actions, learn from your mistakes and from the inevitable mistakes of others and stop the blame game. " | |||
"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. To be honest the father in law lives over there and has said since the brits could start coming again they have come, ingored rules moaned and argued when told to mask up.. people are dicks!!!" I don't know where your father in law lives but I can assure you that is not the case where we are, nor in Benidorm where we have just spent a couple of days. In the Torrevieja area it is almost 100% compliance and the very few who we see not wearing masks are mostly young Spanish. Ditto Benidorm. We have been here 4 weeks and have yet to see anyone arguing about masking up. | |||
"Ffs a synopsis of any link put up should be mandatory. " I just fucking ignore posts that can't be arsed to give even a scant explanation of the link given. | |||
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"Ffs a synopsis of any link put up should be mandatory. I just fucking ignore posts that can't be arsed to give even a scant explanation of the link given. " You posted  | |||
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"Just been on a Spanish forum I use and they are blaming the Brit’s for Spain’s second wave, which is about the norm from the expats over there. To be honest the father in law lives over there and has said since the brits could start coming again they have come, ingored rules moaned and argued when told to mask up.. people are dicks!!! I don't know where your father in law lives but I can assure you that is not the case where we are, nor in Benidorm where we have just spent a couple of days. In the Torrevieja area it is almost 100% compliance and the very few who we see not wearing masks are mostly young Spanish. Ditto Benidorm. We have been here 4 weeks and have yet to see anyone arguing about masking up." Totally agree got back from my place on the costa del sol this week and didnt see BRITS ignoring rules and arguing about wearing masks. | |||
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"When you get home, its 2 week quarantine yet you CANNOT claim ssp UNLESS you show symptoms. This leads me to wonder how many will falsely claim to have symptoms to get ssp, this leading to a spike powered by what are essentially false positives, this leading to more lockdowns over here." Spot on. I think the employer should pay them and maybe take 2 weeks off any further holidays...but I dont know how that could work for zero hour workers. But if we are going down this route we need a plan...and enforcement of the plan. | |||
"Well anyone who has travelled there for hols is in for a bit of a shock when they get back! That’s the chance you take when you just have to go abroad " The alternative would have been to loose all their money paid if they had booked months before COVID took hold. Very unfortunate situation.. | |||
"They're reviewing the list of countries each week, so it may not stay on it for too long. " Most likely daily reviews, it’s an ever changing situation. | |||
"Well anyone who has traveled there for holls is in for a bit of a shock when they get back! That’s the chance you take when you just have to go abroad And how many will throw their toys out of their prams, and demand that the government pays for everything... ....more worrying is how many will ignore the quarantine, and return to work etc..." Inevitable as people have lost the ability of taking responsibility for their actions. I'm going on holiday in the middle of a pandemic but you have to fly me back when I want: that's my right!
Unless they don't work, you tell your colleagues where you're going for holiday and you won't be able to return to work. | |||
"When you get home, its 2 week quarantine yet you CANNOT claim ssp UNLESS you show symptoms. This leads me to wonder how many will falsely claim to have symptoms to get ssp, this leading to a spike powered by what are essentially false positives, this leading to more lockdowns over here." claiming to have symptoms does not create a false positive test result  | |||
"When you get home, its 2 week quarantine yet you CANNOT claim ssp UNLESS you show symptoms. This leads me to wonder how many will falsely claim to have symptoms to get ssp, this leading to a spike powered by what are essentially false positives, this leading to more lockdowns over here. Spot on. I think the employer should pay them and maybe take 2 weeks off any further holidays...but I dont know how that could work for zero hour workers. But if we are going down this route we need a plan...and enforcement of the plan." I love the way we immediately look at ways to defraud the tax payer... And then complain when there's no money to pay nurses more. Just whose money do people think is paying for this additional paid holiday? If people are genuinely so stupid to travel overseas in the middle of a global pandemic, where the situation in almost every country is changing on a daily basis, then there should be no surprises when situations change. Ffs take some responsibility for your own decisions and behaviour and stop expecting the tax payer to bail everyone out. | |||
"When you get home, its 2 week quarantine yet you CANNOT claim ssp UNLESS you show symptoms. This leads me to wonder how many will falsely claim to have symptoms to get ssp, this leading to a spike powered by what are essentially false positives, this leading to more lockdowns over here. Spot on. I think the employer should pay them and maybe take 2 weeks off any further holidays...but I dont know how that could work for zero hour workers. But if we are going down this route we need a plan...and enforcement of the plan. I love the way we immediately look at ways to defraud the tax payer... And then complain when there's no money to pay nurses more. Just whose money do people think is paying for this additional paid holiday? If people are genuinely so stupid to travel overseas in the middle of a global pandemic, where the situation in almost every country is changing on a daily basis, then there should be no surprises when situations change. Ffs take some responsibility for your own decisions and behaviour and stop expecting the tax payer to bail everyone out. " There's no need to be so insulting, the vast number of people including ourselves have no intention of defrauding anyone. | |||
"When you get home, its 2 week quarantine yet you CANNOT claim ssp UNLESS you show symptoms. This leads me to wonder how many will falsely claim to have symptoms to get ssp, this leading to a spike powered by what are essentially false positives, this leading to more lockdowns over here. Spot on. I think the employer should pay them and maybe take 2 weeks off any further holidays...but I dont know how that could work for zero hour workers. But if we are going down this route we need a plan...and enforcement of the plan. I love the way we immediately look at ways to defraud the tax payer... And then complain when there's no money to pay nurses more. Just whose money do people think is paying for this additional paid holiday? If people are genuinely so stupid to travel overseas in the middle of a global pandemic, where the situation in almost every country is changing on a daily basis, then there should be no surprises when situations change. Ffs take some responsibility for your own decisions and behaviour and stop expecting the tax payer to bail everyone out. " Excuse me pal but who the fuck is talking about defrauding the tax payer? Average person gets 5 to 6 weeks leave a year. So they want a fortnight's holiday but something goes wrong and they have to have 14 days of work to quarantine...employer shouldn't have to pay because they chose to go on holiday through a pandemic...so they lose a further 2 weeks from that 5-6 weeks annual leave. Now how the fuck is that fraud? Oh any ideas on how you would handle it better I'll e pleased to hear? | |||
"When you get home, its 2 week quarantine yet you CANNOT claim ssp UNLESS you show symptoms. This leads me to wonder how many will falsely claim to have symptoms to get ssp, this leading to a spike powered by what are essentially false positives, this leading to more lockdowns over here. Spot on. I think the employer should pay them and maybe take 2 weeks off any further holidays...but I dont know how that could work for zero hour workers. But if we are going down this route we need a plan...and enforcement of the plan. I love the way we immediately look at ways to defraud the tax payer... And then complain when there's no money to pay nurses more. Just whose money do people think is paying for this additional paid holiday? If people are genuinely so stupid to travel overseas in the middle of a global pandemic, where the situation in almost every country is changing on a daily basis, then there should be no surprises when situations change. Ffs take some responsibility for your own decisions and behaviour and stop expecting the tax payer to bail everyone out. Excuse me pal but who the fuck is talking about defrauding the tax payer? Average person gets 5 to 6 weeks leave a year. So they want a fortnight's holiday but something goes wrong and they have to have 14 days of work to quarantine...employer shouldn't have to pay because they chose to go on holiday through a pandemic...so they lose a further 2 weeks from that 5-6 weeks annual leave. Now how the fuck is that fraud? Oh any ideas on how you would handle it better I'll e pleased to hear?" Think he is referring to "This leads me to wonder how many will falsely claim to have symptoms to get ssp" | |||
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"When you get home, its 2 week quarantine yet you CANNOT claim ssp UNLESS you show symptoms. This leads me to wonder how many will falsely claim to have symptoms to get ssp, this leading to a spike powered by what are essentially false positives, this leading to more lockdowns over here. Spot on. I think the employer should pay them and maybe take 2 weeks off any further holidays...but I dont know how that could work for zero hour workers. But if we are going down this route we need a plan...and enforcement of the plan. I love the way we immediately look at ways to defraud the tax payer... And then complain when there's no money to pay nurses more. Just whose money do people think is paying for this additional paid holiday? If people are genuinely so stupid to travel overseas in the middle of a global pandemic, where the situation in almost every country is changing on a daily basis, then there should be no surprises when situations change. Ffs take some responsibility for your own decisions and behaviour and stop expecting the tax payer to bail everyone out. Excuse me pal but who the fuck is talking about defrauding the tax payer? Average person gets 5 to 6 weeks leave a year. So they want a fortnight's holiday but something goes wrong and they have to have 14 days of work to quarantine...employer shouldn't have to pay because they chose to go on holiday through a pandemic...so they lose a further 2 weeks from that 5-6 weeks annual leave. Now how the fuck is that fraud? Oh any ideas on how you would handle it better I'll e pleased to hear? Think he is referring to "This leads me to wonder how many will falsely claim to have symptoms to get ssp"" Maybe he should watch what and who he includes in future quotes  | |||
"Instead of quarantining arrivals from Spain why not use some of the unused testing capacity the government says they have. Test on arrival then again after a week etc." But they'd still need to quarantine after testing due to delay between infection & being detectable. | |||
"Transport Minister , Grant Shapps will have to go in quarantine when he returns from his Spanish holiday ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, "some people" may have thought that a member of the UK government insisting we leave the EU while seeing the damage that the covid pandemic has caused to our tourist industry might have supported a British hotel , camp site or B&B and spent his holiday money on our shores " And endure yet another grotty wet summer. Maybe he booked it before March. My guess is a lot of people did. Perhaps he has a holiday home there or a friend has ? | |||
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"Instead of quarantining arrivals from Spain why not use some of the unused testing capacity the government says they have. Test on arrival then again after a week etc. But they'd still need to quarantine after testing due to delay between infection & being detectable." why though? when the chance of being virus free is just as high as the chance of having the virus (actually probably more) and the chance or having the virus in your body not yet detectable from the holiday is just the same as having the virus in your body not yet detectable from asda people keep going on about the science and yet entirely ignoring the maths ... why are we assuming every single person allowed out in the world poses an immediate risk when something ridiculous like 4% of people are infected? why would we assume a negative test is a false negative from someone that just hasn’t had the virus long enough to detect it ... these people are returning from a beach holiday ... not some virus centre where they were bathed daily in virus particles we are totally ignoring probability and heading straight for worst case scenario because we have now been programmed into irrational fear a test at airport returning, provide your contact details, stay home until you receive a negative result and then if you start to feel unwell self isolate and inform the test and trace people should be more than sufficient | |||
"Instead of quarantining arrivals from Spain why not use some of the unused testing capacity the government says they have. Test on arrival then again after a week etc. But they'd still need to quarantine after testing due to delay between infection & being detectable. why though? when the chance of being virus free is just as high as the chance of having the virus (actually probably more) and the chance or having the virus in your body not yet detectable from the holiday is just the same as having the virus in your body not yet detectable from asda people keep going on about the science and yet entirely ignoring the maths ... why are we assuming every single person allowed out in the world poses an immediate risk when something ridiculous like 4% of people are infected? why would we assume a negative test is a false negative from someone that just hasn’t had the virus long enough to detect it ... these people are returning from a beach holiday ... not some virus centre where they were bathed daily in virus particles we are totally ignoring probability and heading straight for worst case scenario because we have now been programmed into irrational fear a test at airport returning, provide your contact details, stay home until you receive a negative result and then if you start to feel unwell self isolate and inform the test and trace people should be more than sufficient " Stop being sensible, it's not fabworthy | |||
"Instead of quarantining arrivals from Spain why not use some of the unused testing capacity the government says they have. Test on arrival then again after a week etc. But they'd still need to quarantine after testing due to delay between infection & being detectable. why though? when the chance of being virus free is just as high as the chance of having the virus (actually probably more) and the chance or having the virus in your body not yet detectable from the holiday is just the same as having the virus in your body not yet detectable from asda people keep going on about the science and yet entirely ignoring the maths ... why are we assuming every single person allowed out in the world poses an immediate risk when something ridiculous like 4% of people are infected? why would we assume a negative test is a false negative from someone that just hasn’t had the virus long enough to detect it ... these people are returning from a beach holiday ... not some virus centre where they were bathed daily in virus particles we are totally ignoring probability and heading straight for worst case scenario because we have now been programmed into irrational fear a test at airport returning, provide your contact details, stay home until you receive a negative result and then if you start to feel unwell self isolate and inform the test and trace people should be more than sufficient " I hope you realise that common sense is banned on here. | |||
yes dramatic but thats honestly how i am reading some peoples logic | |||
"Instead of quarantining arrivals from Spain why not use some of the unused testing capacity the government says they have. Test on arrival then again after a week etc." Here we see common sense, unfortunately foundering on whether or not there actually is all that testing capacity. | |||
Job Done! | |||
"You can circumvent the 14 day quarantine, by simply stating that you went to Spain to have your eyes tested!
Job Done! "are we still on this childish bs? | |||
"When Transport Secretary Grant Shapps returns from his holiday in Spain , I expect he will be given the choice of 14 days in quarantine , or , a 30 minute press conference in the Downing Street garden explaining why the quarantine rules do not apply to him " As a politician isn't he exempt from quarantine anyways. If I was in his shoes though, I'd honestly just stay over there until spain moves back into the quarantine free zone | |||
"When Transport Secretary Grant Shapps returns from his holiday in Spain , I expect he will be given the choice of 14 days in quarantine , or , a 30 minute press conference in the Downing Street garden explaining why the quarantine rules do not apply to him As a politician isn't he exempt from quarantine anyways. If I was in his shoes though, I'd honestly just stay over there until spain moves back into the quarantine free zone "No he isn't, nobody is exempt if they are traveling for holidays | |||
"Instead of quarantining arrivals from Spain why not use some of the unused testing capacity the government says they have. Test on arrival then again after a week etc. But they'd still need to quarantine after testing due to delay between infection & being detectable. why though? when the chance of being virus free is just as high as the chance of having the virus (actually probably more) and the chance or having the virus in your body not yet detectable from the holiday is just the same as having the virus in your body not yet detectable from asda people keep going on about the science and yet entirely ignoring the maths ... why are we assuming every single person allowed out in the world poses an immediate risk when something ridiculous like 4% of people are infected? why would we assume a negative test is a false negative from someone that just hasn’t had the virus long enough to detect it ... these people are returning from a beach holiday ... not some virus centre where they were bathed daily in virus particles we are totally ignoring probability and heading straight for worst case scenario because we have now been programmed into irrational fear a test at airport returning, provide your contact details, stay home until you receive a negative result and then if you start to feel unwell self isolate and inform the test and trace people should be more than sufficient " | |||
"You can circumvent the 14 day quarantine, by simply stating that you went to Spain to have your eyes tested!
Job Done!
are we still on this childish bs? "Yes! We can't meet, play etc. So might as well have a bit of banter and chat!  | |||
"You can circumvent the 14 day quarantine, by simply stating that you went to Spain to have your eyes tested!
Job Done!
are we still on this childish bs?
Yes! We can't meet, play etc. So might as well have a bit of banter and chat! "i mean if its a joke fair enough but there will be people out there still thinking its a genuine justification to do whatever the hell they want | |||
"You can circumvent the 14 day quarantine, by simply stating that you went to Spain to have your eyes tested!
Job Done!
are we still on this childish bs?
Yes! We can't meet, play etc. So might as well have a bit of banter and chat!
i mean if its a joke fair enough but there will be people out there still thinking its a genuine justification to do whatever the hell they want "And some people genuinely trust these cnuts to make a success after brexit. | |||
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