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"We said that take two weeks or so off the summer holidays etc! But in my experience my 6yo is still on target so I don’t really have any worries. My 3yo abut begins but she’s 3 so I’m not worried xx " That is good and good news as well  | |||
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"Absolutely undoubtedly. The impact will be felt for years to come. So many mixed reports, some kids have been OK, some really not. My friends kid's primary school literally said see you in September at the start of lockdown! My own kids, the high school one has been very let down by his. They've barely set work, not checked progress, it's woeful. However that pales into insignificance for my uni student eldest. They've been absolutely fucked over. Of hundreds of hours of lectures he's paid for, he's had 14. FOURTEEN. All Uni students have been royally screwed this year, there were two months of strikes, then covid hit so he and others have gone £18k in debt for basically nothing. No online lectures, no replies, almost no help at any point, he's still waiting on complaints since last year to be dealt with. He's currently working on a 20k word complaint to the ombudsman while he waits to find anything out about his next year because logically the whole year has failed if they can't do the work if they've not been taught, but has already had to commit to £8k rent for next year and we don't even know if he can go. And so many are in that same boat. Then there's gonna be no placement work for anyone etc etc It's scary af.... " You are right there. I aldo heard that msny university students cant get their refund either? Also we dont know if there will be more school closures in the future as the second wave could come too, it is a uncertain time for the education system as well. | |||
"Absolutely undoubtedly. The impact will be felt for years to come. So many mixed reports, some kids have been OK, some really not. My friends kid's primary school literally said see you in September at the start of lockdown! My own kids, the high school one has been very let down by his. They've barely set work, not checked progress, it's woeful. However that pales into insignificance for my uni student eldest. They've been absolutely fucked over. Of hundreds of hours of lectures he's paid for, he's had 14. FOURTEEN. All Uni students have been royally screwed this year, there were two months of strikes, then covid hit so he and others have gone £18k in debt for basically nothing. No online lectures, no replies, almost no help at any point, he's still waiting on complaints since last year to be dealt with. He's currently working on a 20k word complaint to the ombudsman while he waits to find anything out about his next year because logically the whole year has failed if they can't do the work if they've not been taught, but has already had to commit to £8k rent for next year and we don't even know if he can go. And so many are in that same boat. Then there's gonna be no placement work for anyone etc etc It's scary af.... You are right there. I aldo heard that msny university students cant get their refund either? Also we dont know if there will be more school closures in the future as the second wave could come too, it is a uncertain time for the education system as well." Yeah, they're dragging their heels with fingers in their ears about refund regulations. He got £200 awarded but not received still for the strikes. Amazing that as each lecture actually costs £240 per hour we worked out... School closures will also be cos parents have killed their kids for getting on their nerves 24/7 for months so less demand  | |||
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"Absolutely undoubtedly. The impact will be felt for years to come. So many mixed reports, some kids have been OK, some really not. My friends kid's primary school literally said see you in September at the start of lockdown! My own kids, the high school one has been very let down by his. They've barely set work, not checked progress, it's woeful. However that pales into insignificance for my uni student eldest. They've been absolutely fucked over. Of hundreds of hours of lectures he's paid for, he's had 14. FOURTEEN. All Uni students have been royally screwed this year, there were two months of strikes, then covid hit so he and others have gone £18k in debt for basically nothing. No online lectures, no replies, almost no help at any point, he's still waiting on complaints since last year to be dealt with. He's currently working on a 20k word complaint to the ombudsman while he waits to find anything out about his next year because logically the whole year has failed if they can't do the work if they've not been taught, but has already had to commit to £8k rent for next year and we don't even know if he can go. And so many are in that same boat. Then there's gonna be no placement work for anyone etc etc It's scary af.... " Agree with the unis. Unis have taken the piss. Last year's 1st year was a waste of time and money. But they are adults and will have to learn to adapt. Some will and will be better for the experience, being more self reliant and some won't and unfortunately will miss out. Having had only 10 weeks lectures out of 30 for the year. my daughter had end of year exams she is expected to pass to access year 2 of the course. I did hear rumours that some unis are due to go bust. Good... Let the bloated tertiary education system equalise naturally. For most other kids, basically they have had 4 months out of the 13 years of their education disturbed. And I think many kids and parents will be better for the experience. Most parents have had to get involved and interested in their offsprings education more than they have previously. It's encouraged resilience and creativity and got to spend time together they previously would not have been able to. The point is I guess that particularly primary kids education is many things not just 2 plus 2 and more home involvement generally is a good thing. There will be some whose parents / guardians are not able to cope with that and their children may be negatively impacted. But suggest in their overall education that 4 months is not a massive period of time and it will be whatever we "program" it to be. Ie if we keep gelling the kids its an excuse to fail, then they will fail. If we say it's a glorious opportunity to do things differently, they will adapt and learn. Kids are remarkably resilient when we let them be and encourage them. | |||
"It is going to be felt, massively. I have 2 teenagers, luckily neither in GCSE or A Level year, but they have both had a whole term out of school and my home learning efforts simply cannot teach them a full secondary curriculum, bearing in mind I didnt get many GCSEs myself. The schools effort for my two was poor and they were expecting unmotivated teenagers to be able to teach themselves algebra, physics, chemistry experiments, fractions, photosynthesis and all kinds of stuff from reading powerpoint presentations. My two have not learnt much and it will undoubtedly have an impact on their grades in due course. " I do agree with... What have the teachers been doing since March.? In neither of my 2 kids schools have we seen or heard from them. It has been tough to motivate the kids but we've just had to cope with it and do our best. They've learned some weird and whacky skills and have thankfully not yet turned psycho. My neighbours tell me their primary school have been brilliant... And whilst I'm reluctant to throw rocks at a whole profession, I'd love to hear from any teachers to understand what exactly they have been doing since March as my own experiences are that they haven't been doing very much teaching... Except some who have been covering the key workers kids. Let's hope at the very least they have been developing their teaching skills to hit thr ground running in September. As for your question op on changing school term times. I can't see it happening. Though personally think it's a good idea. Parents generally are remarkably inflexible and will moan about missing out on their holidays. Every cloud has a silver lining and Im a believer that in 12 months time, some of the new teaching methods we have been forced into will have been an improvement on a style of teaching that largely hasn't changed for a considerable time, whilst the world around us has changed beyond recognition. With greater parental involvement, greater responsibility on the child and parents and hopefully exciting new teaching from the schools we could churn out a generation of motivated, adaptable, intelligent kids ready to forge their way. | |||
"Absolutely undoubtedly. The impact will be felt for years to come. So many mixed reports, some kids have been OK, some really not. My friends kid's primary school literally said see you in September at the start of lockdown! My own kids, the high school one has been very let down by his. They've barely set work, not checked progress, it's woeful. However that pales into insignificance for my uni student eldest. They've been absolutely fucked over. Of hundreds of hours of lectures he's paid for, he's had 14. FOURTEEN. All Uni students have been royally screwed this year, there were two months of strikes, then covid hit so he and others have gone £18k in debt for basically nothing. No online lectures, no replies, almost no help at any point, he's still waiting on complaints since last year to be dealt with. He's currently working on a 20k word complaint to the ombudsman while he waits to find anything out about his next year because logically the whole year has failed if they can't do the work if they've not been taught, but has already had to commit to £8k rent for next year and we don't even know if he can go. And so many are in that same boat. Then there's gonna be no placement work for anyone etc etc It's scary af.... You are right there. I aldo heard that msny university students cant get their refund either? Also we dont know if there will be more school closures in the future as the second wave could come too, it is a uncertain time for the education system as well. Yeah, they're dragging their heels with fingers in their ears about refund regulations. He got £200 awarded but not received still for the strikes. Amazing that as each lecture actually costs £240 per hour we worked out... School closures will also be cos parents have killed their kids for getting on their nerves 24/7 for months so less demand "Yes and at least he did get some refund there but yes I ghink this year will kind of written of as a lost year of learning, if there are more closures I actually wonder if you will finish your education when you are 18 years old? | |||
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"Absolutely undoubtedly. The impact will be felt for years to come. So many mixed reports, some kids have been OK, some really not. My friends kid's primary school literally said see you in September at the start of lockdown! My own kids, the high school one has been very let down by his. They've barely set work, not checked progress, it's woeful. However that pales into insignificance for my uni student eldest. They've been absolutely fucked over. Of hundreds of hours of lectures he's paid for, he's had 14. FOURTEEN. All Uni students have been royally screwed this year, there were two months of strikes, then covid hit so he and others have gone £18k in debt for basically nothing. No online lectures, no replies, almost no help at any point, he's still waiting on complaints since last year to be dealt with. He's currently working on a 20k word complaint to the ombudsman while he waits to find anything out about his next year because logically the whole year has failed if they can't do the work if they've not been taught, but has already had to commit to £8k rent for next year and we don't even know if he can go. And so many are in that same boat. Then there's gonna be no placement work for anyone etc etc It's scary af.... " Is he a first year? If my university experience is anything to go by, you're not taught, you're guided. Your work is not marked as such and you're left wondering what exactly lecturers do for their wages . It's nothing like school. Contact hours are much much less than school. | |||
"It is going to be felt, massively. I have 2 teenagers, luckily neither in GCSE or A Level year, but they have both had a whole term out of school and my home learning efforts simply cannot teach them a full secondary curriculum, bearing in mind I didnt get many GCSEs myself. The schools effort for my two was poor and they were expecting unmotivated teenagers to be able to teach themselves algebra, physics, chemistry experiments, fractions, photosynthesis and all kinds of stuff from reading powerpoint presentations. My two have not learnt much and it will undoubtedly have an impact on their grades in due course. I do agree with... What have the teachers been doing since March.? In neither of my 2 kids schools have we seen or heard from them. It has been tough to motivate the kids but we've just had to cope with it and do our best. They've learned some weird and whacky skills and have thankfully not yet turned psycho. My neighbours tell me their primary school have been brilliant... And whilst I'm reluctant to throw rocks at a whole profession, I'd love to hear from any teachers to understand what exactly they have been doing since March as my own experiences are that they haven't been doing very much teaching... Except some who have been covering the key workers kids. Let's hope at the very least they have been developing their teaching skills to hit thr ground running in September. As for your question op on changing school term times. I can't see it happening. Though personally think it's a good idea. Parents generally are remarkably inflexible and will moan about missing out on their holidays. Every cloud has a silver lining and Im a believer that in 12 months time, some of the new teaching methods we have been forced into will have been an improvement on a style of teaching that largely hasn't changed for a considerable time, whilst the world around us has changed beyond recognition. With greater parental involvement, greater responsibility on the child and parents and hopefully exciting new teaching from the schools we could churn out a generation of motivated, adaptable, intelligent kids ready to forge their way. " Setting online home learning every day and responding to this, differentiating said home learning so all children can access, going into school to teach key worker and vulnerable groups, along with reception, year 1 and year 6. Offering advice and support to struggling parents, continuous professional development, creating and hand delivering home learning packs to children’s homes who can’t access online learning, delivering school meals to children’s homes, working on a very different school process and curriculum for September, oh and not to forget looking after and home schooling our own children, so yeah been quite busy! | |||
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"It is going to be felt, massively. I have 2 teenagers, luckily neither in GCSE or A Level year, but they have both had a whole term out of school and my home learning efforts simply cannot teach them a full secondary curriculum, bearing in mind I didnt get many GCSEs myself. The schools effort for my two was poor and they were expecting unmotivated teenagers to be able to teach themselves algebra, physics, chemistry experiments, fractions, photosynthesis and all kinds of stuff from reading powerpoint presentations. My two have not learnt much and it will undoubtedly have an impact on their grades in due course. I do agree with... What have the teachers been doing since March.? In neither of my 2 kids schools have we seen or heard from them. It has been tough to motivate the kids but we've just had to cope with it and do our best. They've learned some weird and whacky skills and have thankfully not yet turned psycho. My neighbours tell me their primary school have been brilliant... And whilst I'm reluctant to throw rocks at a whole profession, I'd love to hear from any teachers to understand what exactly they have been doing since March as my own experiences are that they haven't been doing very much teaching... Except some who have been covering the key workers kids. Let's hope at the very least they have been developing their teaching skills to hit thr ground running in September. As for your question op on changing school term times. I can't see it happening. Though personally think it's a good idea. Parents generally are remarkably inflexible and will moan about missing out on their holidays. Every cloud has a silver lining and Im a believer that in 12 months time, some of the new teaching methods we have been forced into will have been an improvement on a style of teaching that largely hasn't changed for a considerable time, whilst the world around us has changed beyond recognition. With greater parental involvement, greater responsibility on the child and parents and hopefully exciting new teaching from the schools we could churn out a generation of motivated, adaptable, intelligent kids ready to forge their way. Setting online home learning every day and responding to this, differentiating said home learning so all children can access, going into school to teach key worker and vulnerable groups, along with reception, year 1 and year 6. Offering advice and support to struggling parents, continuous professional development, creating and hand delivering home learning packs to children’s homes who can’t access online learning, delivering school meals to children’s homes, working on a very different school process and curriculum for September, oh and not to forget looking after and home schooling our own children, so yeah been quite busy!" Thanks for your insight, seems you've been very busy at your schook.... But have to say mine was sent an email once a week with next week's work and homework. No marking, no other contact. Left entirely alone... Its been quite a different experience. Ucas exams cancelled. Oh... And automated emails to say work was late... When motivation tailed off after 8 weeks. | |||
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"It is going to be felt, massively. I have 2 teenagers, luckily neither in GCSE or A Level year, but they have both had a whole term out of school and my home learning efforts simply cannot teach them a full secondary curriculum, bearing in mind I didnt get many GCSEs myself. The schools effort for my two was poor and they were expecting unmotivated teenagers to be able to teach themselves algebra, physics, chemistry experiments, fractions, photosynthesis and all kinds of stuff from reading powerpoint presentations. My two have not learnt much and it will undoubtedly have an impact on their grades in due course. I do agree with... What have the teachers been doing since March.? In neither of my 2 kids schools have we seen or heard from them. It has been tough to motivate the kids but we've just had to cope with it and do our best. They've learned some weird and whacky skills and have thankfully not yet turned psycho. My neighbours tell me their primary school have been brilliant... And whilst I'm reluctant to throw rocks at a whole profession, I'd love to hear from any teachers to understand what exactly they have been doing since March as my own experiences are that they haven't been doing very much teaching... Except some who have been covering the key workers kids. Let's hope at the very least they have been developing their teaching skills to hit thr ground running in September. As for your question op on changing school term times. I can't see it happening. Though personally think it's a good idea. Parents generally are remarkably inflexible and will moan about missing out on their holidays. Every cloud has a silver lining and Im a believer that in 12 months time, some of the new teaching methods we have been forced into will have been an improvement on a style of teaching that largely hasn't changed for a considerable time, whilst the world around us has changed beyond recognition. With greater parental involvement, greater responsibility on the child and parents and hopefully exciting new teaching from the schools we could churn out a generation of motivated, adaptable, intelligent kids ready to forge their way. Setting online home learning every day and responding to this, differentiating said home learning so all children can access, going into school to teach key worker and vulnerable groups, along with reception, year 1 and year 6. Offering advice and support to struggling parents, continuous professional development, creating and hand delivering home learning packs to children’s homes who can’t access online learning, delivering school meals to children’s homes, working on a very different school process and curriculum for September, oh and not to forget looking after and home schooling our own children, so yeah been quite busy! Thanks for your insight, seems you've been very busy at your schook.... But have to say mine was sent an email once a week with next week's work and homework. No marking, no other contact. Left entirely alone... Its been quite a different experience. Ucas exams cancelled. Oh... And automated emails to say work was late... When motivation tailed off after 8 weeks. " Yes all schools have worked differently, government guidance was woolly at best and just down right confusing and contradictory at worst so schools had to make their own decisions. | |||
" Yes all schools have worked differently, government guidance was woolly at best and just down right confusing and contradictory at worst so schools had to make their own decisions." Clearly, and I'm not necessarily blaming anyone, it's been a massive learning experience for everyone. I happen to believe it's the parents who need to take ultimate ownership when things go tits up. But it does nobody any favours when we are allowed to get ideas our school are being lazy as fuck.... I mean they may very well be doing the best they can... They may be doing community work like delivering meals etc but they certainly haven't been engaging in any teaching with mine.....for more than 12 weeks. As I've said separately I kind of like challenging kids and seeing how they respond so in that regard they have certainly been challenged. I'm hopeful it will stand them in good stead later in life. | |||
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But she has found it a godsend and thinks they might have made up 1 year by the time the new term starts (fingers crosses) | |||
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"It is going to be felt, massively. I have 2 teenagers, luckily neither in GCSE or A Level year, but they have both had a whole term out of school and my home learning efforts simply cannot teach them a full secondary curriculum, bearing in mind I didnt get many GCSEs myself. The schools effort for my two was poor and they were expecting unmotivated teenagers to be able to teach themselves algebra, physics, chemistry experiments, fractions, photosynthesis and all kinds of stuff from reading powerpoint presentations. My two have not learnt much and it will undoubtedly have an impact on their grades in due course. I do agree with... What have the teachers been doing since March.? In neither of my 2 kids schools have we seen or heard from them. It has been tough to motivate the kids but we've just had to cope with it and do our best. They've learned some weird and whacky skills and have thankfully not yet turned psycho. My neighbours tell me their primary school have been brilliant... And whilst I'm reluctant to throw rocks at a whole profession, I'd love to hear from any teachers to understand what exactly they have been doing since March as my own experiences are that they haven't been doing very much teaching... Except some who have been covering the key workers kids. Let's hope at the very least they have been developing their teaching skills to hit thr ground running in September. As for your question op on changing school term times. I can't see it happening. Though personally think it's a good idea. Parents generally are remarkably inflexible and will moan about missing out on their holidays. Every cloud has a silver lining and Im a believer that in 12 months time, some of the new teaching methods we have been forced into will have been an improvement on a style of teaching that largely hasn't changed for a considerable time, whilst the world around us has changed beyond recognition. With greater parental involvement, greater responsibility on the child and parents and hopefully exciting new teaching from the schools we could churn out a generation of motivated, adaptable, intelligent kids ready to forge their way. Setting online home learning every day and responding to this, differentiating said home learning so all children can access, going into school to teach key worker and vulnerable groups, along with reception, year 1 and year 6. Offering advice and support to struggling parents, continuous professional development, creating and hand delivering home learning packs to children’s homes who can’t access online learning, delivering school meals to children’s homes, working on a very different school process and curriculum for September, oh and not to forget looking after and home schooling our own children, so yeah been quite busy!" | |||
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"My year 4 & 8 have been going to school through out lock down. The year 8 only 2 days a week, but has done a lot more schooling than others who we're online learning. Year 4 started at 2 days a week, got to full time by end of term. Apart from finising at 12 noon on a Friday. I have no clue why. When the return, they start at 8am, and finish at 2.45. Again, I have no clue why. And it's 25 mins less of a day. They should be increasing hours to catch up, not have less. "if it’s anything like our kids schools it is so they can stagger start and finish times by year group so you don’t get mass congregation at the school gates | |||
"My eldest son lost nearly 2 years of full time education after being diagnosed with M.E. at the age of 9. He got his GCSE's then A levels. He went to Newcastle University where he got his degree in Psychology. Last year he got his Master's and is now studying for his PHD. Those who want to learn, will learn and the wasters will blame the virus for their lack of success." this..... | |||
"My year 4 & 8 have been going to school through out lock down. The year 8 only 2 days a week, but has done a lot more schooling than others who we're online learning. Year 4 started at 2 days a week, got to full time by end of term. Apart from finising at 12 noon on a Friday. I have no clue why. When the return, they start at 8am, and finish at 2.45. Again, I have no clue why. And it's 25 mins less of a day. They should be increasing hours to catch up, not have less. "At a guess the reason they finish at lunch on Friday is to give teachers their PPA all at once so they don’t have to introduce more adults to cover as is the pre covid standard. 8-2.45 is definitely a full day ... usual timetable for primary school is 5.5 hours so you have 6 hours 45 mins no doubt with a shorter lunch this year due to necessity for staggering and bubbles not interacting so probably 6 hours teaching time - that’s a hell of a lot for a 9 year old each day. | |||
"My year 4 & 8 have been going to school through out lock down. The year 8 only 2 days a week, but has done a lot more schooling than others who we're online learning. Year 4 started at 2 days a week, got to full time by end of term. Apart from finising at 12 noon on a Friday. I have no clue why. When the return, they start at 8am, and finish at 2.45. Again, I have no clue why. And it's 25 mins less of a day. They should be increasing hours to catch up, not have less.
At a guess the reason they finish at lunch on Friday is to give teachers their PPA all at once so they don’t have to introduce more adults to cover as is the pre covid standard. 8-2.45 is definitely a full day ... usual timetable for primary school is 5.5 hours so you have 6 hours 45 mins no doubt with a shorter lunch this year due to necessity for staggering and bubbles not interacting so probably 6 hours teaching time - that’s a hell of a lot for a 9 year old each day. "Is is... Also don't forget this is a national crisis and we are a very long way from being out of it yet. so those of us with kids and involved in education need to be a bit more open minded and flexible and do our bit. As stated previously, I'm a massive believer that every cloud has a silver lining and out of this we will have better, more relevant, more engaging teaching and some really creative kids being enabled... So long as we can keep the parents functioning. | |||
"My year 4 & 8 have been going to school through out lock down. The year 8 only 2 days a week, but has done a lot more schooling than others who we're online learning. Year 4 started at 2 days a week, got to full time by end of term. Apart from finising at 12 noon on a Friday. I have no clue why. When the return, they start at 8am, and finish at 2.45. Again, I have no clue why. And it's 25 mins less of a day. They should be increasing hours to catch up, not have less.
At a guess the reason they finish at lunch on Friday is to give teachers their PPA all at once so they don’t have to introduce more adults to cover as is the pre covid standard. 8-2.45 is definitely a full day ... usual timetable for primary school is 5.5 hours so you have 6 hours 45 mins no doubt with a shorter lunch this year due to necessity for staggering and bubbles not interacting so probably 6 hours teaching time - that’s a hell of a lot for a 9 year old each day.
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Also don't forget this is a national crisis and we are a very long way from being out of it yet. so those of us with kids and involved in education need to be a bit more open minded and flexible and do our bit. As stated previously, I'm a massive believer that every cloud has a silver lining and out of this we will have better, more relevant, more engaging teaching and some really creative kids being enabled... So long as we can keep the parents functioning. "I agree parents need to be a lot more involved in education from next term.... we need to be prepared for local lockdowns and for parents to step in short term in delivering the work that has been prepared. My experience is all primary based and the disparity in the willingness of parents to be flexible is apparent. Also primary school age parents only make up 12% of tax payers so won’t be a government priority. | |||
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""For parents to step in short term to help deliver the work" They have already been doing it for months and are getting fed up of it" Some have some haven’t the consistency isn’t good enough by school or parents. Suppose this happens on and off all year there needs to be a home / school agreement where each party knows what their expectations are. It seems to be that both sides are blaming the other at the moment which gets no one anywhere. | |||
"Will the development of the social interaction skills also be affected?" Again I think it depends on the home life of the child.... school is consistent but each child’s home is different and it’s not possible to generalise. | |||
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"Will the development of the social interaction skills also be affected? Again I think it depends on the home life of the child.... school is consistent but each child’s home is different and it’s not possible to generalise. " Yes it depends on the situation at school and at home as well. | |||
"Children's education is going to be hugely affected. If absence from school had no consequence then why have they been fining parents when a child misses a single day of school?" That depends surely on what they’re doing during that absence - if following distance/ online learning as set by teachers following the curriculum then less so. If they’re on holiday and missing a chunk then moreso. | |||
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" the reality is the majority of kids who are at risk of being behind their peers essentially plateau aged 12 anyway and never really progress from there." So you are saying that it is pointless some kids going to High School ? | |||
"Will the development of the social interaction skills also be affected?" For some certainly, but again that's where we have to adapt and be creative... Take a bit of time... It may be different but that doesn't mean it's for the worst... It may even be for the better. I know change is scary for some but doesn't mean its bad. | |||
"Teacher here - if theyve done their online learning then there is really nothing to "catch up" on. Younger kids develop holistically and content knowledge is less important than skills at that age. Older kids on 3xam courses will be fine as Ofsted will announce how next years exams will change for many subjects in August. If they haven't done 3 hours a day consistently since lockdown began then they probably will have fallen behind where we would want them to be but the reality is the majority of kids who are at risk of being behind their peers essentially plateau aged 12 anyway and never really progress from there." Teacher here too and I agree with this | |||
"Will the development of the social interaction skills also be affected? For some certainly, but again that's where we have to adapt and be creative... Take a bit of time... It may be different but that doesn't mean it's for the worst... It may even be for the better. I know change is scary for some but doesn't mean its bad. " I think one of the weaknesses of our current curriculum is lack of creativity and life skills - this was prime opportunity for parents/families to fill that gap. Some did some didn’t. I know my kids have learned things they never would have in the same period of time at school. They missed some ‘academic’ sure but the opportunities are there for learning of some kind if you take them. | |||
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"Some will and some won't. It depends on the school, the parents and the children. Parents have been required to step up and not all have the ability or inclination to do so." Well put. | |||
"Teacher here - if theyve done their online learning then there is really nothing to "catch up" on. Younger kids develop holistically and content knowledge is less important than skills at that age. Older kids on 3xam courses will be fine as Ofsted will announce how next years exams will change for many subjects in August. If they haven't done 3 hours a day consistently since lockdown began then they probably will have fallen behind where we would want them to be but the reality is the majority of kids who are at risk of being behind their peers essentially plateau aged 12 anyway and never really progress from there. Teacher here too and I agree with this "Yeah. | |||
" the reality is the majority of kids who are at risk of being behind their peers essentially plateau aged 12 anyway and never really progress from there. So you are saying that it is pointless some kids going to High School ?" As it stands, sadly yes. There should be vocational options for some students. They'd get more out of it, they'd distract the academic ones less. And they'd leave school with skills they can use learning their trades. | |||
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"Personally yes, having a child with autism we weren't able to teach in a way suitable for there needs. This was the deciding factor to send them back to school. "
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"It is going to be felt, massively. I have 2 teenagers, luckily neither in GCSE or A Level year, but they have both had a whole term out of school and my home learning efforts simply cannot teach them a full secondary curriculum, bearing in mind I didnt get many GCSEs myself. The schools effort for my two was poor and they were expecting unmotivated teenagers to be able to teach themselves algebra, physics, chemistry experiments, fractions, photosynthesis and all kinds of stuff from reading powerpoint presentations. My two have not learnt much and it will undoubtedly have an impact on their grades in due course. I do agree with... What have the teachers been doing since March.? In neither of my 2 kids schools have we seen or heard from them. It has been tough to motivate the kids but we've just had to cope with it and do our best. They've learned some weird and whacky skills and have thankfully not yet turned psycho. My neighbours tell me their primary school have been brilliant... And whilst I'm reluctant to throw rocks at a whole profession, I'd love to hear from any teachers to understand what exactly they have been doing since March as my own experiences are that they haven't been doing very much teaching... Except some who have been covering the key workers kids. Let's hope at the very least they have been developing their teaching skills to hit thr ground running in September. As for your question op on changing school term times. I can't see it happening. Though personally think it's a good idea. Parents generally are remarkably inflexible and will moan about missing out on their holidays. Every cloud has a silver lining and Im a believer that in 12 months time, some of the new teaching methods we have been forced into will have been an improvement on a style of teaching that largely hasn't changed for a considerable time, whilst the world around us has changed beyond recognition. With greater parental involvement, greater responsibility on the child and parents and hopefully exciting new teaching from the schools we could churn out a generation of motivated, adaptable, intelligent kids ready to forge their way. Setting online home learning every day and responding to this, differentiating said home learning so all children can access, going into school to teach key worker and vulnerable groups, along with reception, year 1 and year 6. Offering advice and support to struggling parents, continuous professional development, creating and hand delivering home learning packs to children’s homes who can’t access online learning, delivering school meals to children’s homes, working on a very different school process and curriculum for September, oh and not to forget looking after and home schooling our own children, so yeah been quite busy!" What about the millions of kids who haven't had an education for months ? The amount of teachers who suddenly had asthma recently, requesting/demanding fit note (not to work) was unbelievable | |||
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"Cutting back on school holidays would be stupidly expensive. Teachers are paid for 39 weeks of work, which they happen to take spread over 12 months. They should not be asked to work extra weeks for no pay - this is illegal actually. So the government simply couldn't afford this option. My teacher friends have already lost Easter and half term this year, working 3 weeks extra for absolutely no pay. I'd say that's enough." | |||
"Teacher here - if theyve done their online learning then there is really nothing to "catch up" on. Younger kids develop holistically and content knowledge is less important than skills at that age. Older kids on 3xam courses will be fine as Ofsted will announce how next years exams will change for many subjects in August. If they haven't done 3 hours a day consistently since lockdown began then they probably will have fallen behind where we would want them to be but the reality is the majority of kids who are at risk of being behind their peers essentially plateau aged 12 anyway and never really progress from there. Teacher here too and I agree with this "Agreed and also, we have been working very hard, throughout this whole situation!  | |||
"It is going to be felt, massively. I have 2 teenagers, luckily neither in GCSE or A Level year, but they have both had a whole term out of school and my home learning efforts simply cannot teach them a full secondary curriculum, bearing in mind I didnt get many GCSEs myself. The schools effort for my two was poor and they were expecting unmotivated teenagers to be able to teach themselves algebra, physics, chemistry experiments, fractions, photosynthesis and all kinds of stuff from reading powerpoint presentations. My two have not learnt much and it will undoubtedly have an impact on their grades in due course. I do agree with... What have the teachers been doing since March.? In neither of my 2 kids schools have we seen or heard from them. It has been tough to motivate the kids but we've just had to cope with it and do our best. They've learned some weird and whacky skills and have thankfully not yet turned psycho. My neighbours tell me their primary school have been brilliant... And whilst I'm reluctant to throw rocks at a whole profession, I'd love to hear from any teachers to understand what exactly they have been doing since March as my own experiences are that they haven't been doing very much teaching... Except some who have been covering the key workers kids. Let's hope at the very least they have been developing their teaching skills to hit thr ground running in September. As for your question op on changing school term times. I can't see it happening. Though personally think it's a good idea. Parents generally are remarkably inflexible and will moan about missing out on their holidays. Every cloud has a silver lining and Im a believer that in 12 months time, some of the new teaching methods we have been forced into will have been an improvement on a style of teaching that largely hasn't changed for a considerable time, whilst the world around us has changed beyond recognition. With greater parental involvement, greater responsibility on the child and parents and hopefully exciting new teaching from the schools we could churn out a generation of motivated, adaptable, intelligent kids ready to forge their way. Setting online home learning every day and responding to this, differentiating said home learning so all children can access, going into school to teach key worker and vulnerable groups, along with reception, year 1 and year 6. Offering advice and support to struggling parents, continuous professional development, creating and hand delivering home learning packs to children’s homes who can’t access online learning, delivering school meals to children’s homes, working on a very different school process and curriculum for September, oh and not to forget looking after and home schooling our own children, so yeah been quite busy! What about the millions of kids who haven't had an education for months ? The amount of teachers who suddenly had asthma recently, requesting/demanding fit note (not to work) was unbelievable " There’s always one isn’t there smh. You’ve personally been issuing fit notes and speaking to teachers who have recently developed asthma have you? Or was it Karen on Facebook that told you  | |||
"I have loads of friends and family who are teachers and this has been the most challenging and stressful time for them. Not only are they having to plan an online curriculum, deliver it and teach those kids who are in school, but they are also people with their own kids, families to worry about as well as having the Government and some media outlets blame them/their unions for doing nothing more than asking for their work space to be safe. For my son's school the number of children deemed 'at risk' has soared meaning they are having to do far more holistic and pastoral care than they usually do, even more so with other services such as school nurses diverted to other parts of the NHS. Also there are many factors that will affect the impact on a child beyond the parental input. My son is dyslexic and has struggled throughout all of this, and that is with him being home schooled by a family member who is a retired teacher. He learns far more being around his peers and seeing things modelled by other students. Without that, his confidence and self esteem has plummeted. It is unfair to put that blame on the parents. I have have also had to work throughout all of this so without that family member god knows how I would have managed!" I don’t think there is anyone to blame be it parents or teacher ... I think the blame if there is any should be on the governments shoulders. They had months to prepare and saw other countries around us closing schools and nothing was done. Again for September there is no plan there is no investment it’s just ‘back to normal’ so should we need to shut schools again either nationally or locally the same will happen again inconsistent cobbled together education that depends on how much each school/ parent cares. | |||
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"My youngest son, who has ASD has most certainly been affected. Not just from being off School and out of his School routine, but by the changes that will happen when he goes back in September. I fear the progress he made up until now may be lost, despite my best efforts, and that worries me. My eldest on the other hand has benefited i think from being in a quieter environment and the one to one schooling with me (albeit very basic stuff - i’m no Teacher!). Their School has been very good, set work and checked in with me regularly. They’ve done what they can and have got back to me with help when i asked for some advice. It’s a bit of comfort to know that mine won’t be the only ones in this position. All the children will have been affected in some way, so everyone has to adapt to the changes together. It’ll be hard but i have faith. It’s nobody’s fault. " Have to agree there one of mine is ASD and god knows how I’ll get him back in September! he would happily never go to school again. Keeping the faith here too | |||
"It is going to be felt, massively. I have 2 teenagers, luckily neither in GCSE or A Level year, but they have both had a whole term out of school and my home learning efforts simply cannot teach them a full secondary curriculum, bearing in mind I didnt get many GCSEs myself. The schools effort for my two was poor and they were expecting unmotivated teenagers to be able to teach themselves algebra, physics, chemistry experiments, fractions, photosynthesis and all kinds of stuff from reading powerpoint presentations. My two have not learnt much and it will undoubtedly have an impact on their grades in due course. I do agree with... What have the teachers been doing since March.? In neither of my 2 kids schools have we seen or heard from them. It has been tough to motivate the kids but we've just had to cope with it and do our best. They've learned some weird and whacky skills and have thankfully not yet turned psycho. My neighbours tell me their primary school have been brilliant... And whilst I'm reluctant to throw rocks at a whole profession, I'd love to hear from any teachers to understand what exactly they have been doing since March as my own experiences are that they haven't been doing very much teaching... Except some who have been covering the key workers kids. Let's hope at the very least they have been developing their teaching skills to hit thr ground running in September. As for your question op on changing school term times. I can't see it happening. Though personally think it's a good idea. Parents generally are remarkably inflexible and will moan about missing out on their holidays. Every cloud has a silver lining and Im a believer that in 12 months time, some of the new teaching methods we have been forced into will have been an improvement on a style of teaching that largely hasn't changed for a considerable time, whilst the world around us has changed beyond recognition. With greater parental involvement, greater responsibility on the child and parents and hopefully exciting new teaching from the schools we could churn out a generation of motivated, adaptable, intelligent kids ready to forge their way. Setting online home learning every day and responding to this, differentiating said home learning so all children can access, going into school to teach key worker and vulnerable groups, along with reception, year 1 and year 6. Offering advice and support to struggling parents, continuous professional development, creating and hand delivering home learning packs to children’s homes who can’t access online learning, delivering school meals to children’s homes, working on a very different school process and curriculum for September, oh and not to forget looking after and home schooling our own children, so yeah been quite busy! What about the millions of kids who haven't had an education for months ? The amount of teachers who suddenly had asthma recently, requesting/demanding fit note (not to work) was unbelievable There’s always one isn’t there smh. You’ve personally been issuing fit notes and speaking to teachers who have recently developed asthma have you? Or was it Karen on Facebook that told you "Teachers have been marking and setting work, curriculum planning, etc... but doing more regular 40 hour weeks than the usual 60 hour weeks. Ignorance of what teachers do is common but i can promise you that they have been more than busy as i is one! | |||
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"This has to be reassuring, positive information, "Scientists are yet to find a single confirmed case of a teacher catching coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to a leading epidemiologist and Sage member" "This is because children have been at home and the countries that have opened schools have far lower case rates. As I have told you a few times before when you have posted this quote I know of 5 - teachers working in key worker hubs. Parent symptomatic So got tested positive, his 6 year old daughter at school no symptoms got tested - positive, teacher and 3 other pupils in bubble - positive. Actual cases I know the school and the people. Also no evidence of transmission isn’t the same as evidence of no transmission - again. | |||
"This has to be reassuring, positive information, "Scientists are yet to find a single confirmed case of a teacher catching coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to a leading epidemiologist and Sage member"
This is because children have been at home and the countries that have opened schools have far lower case rates. As I have told you a few times before when you have posted this quote I know of 5 - teachers working in key worker hubs. Parent symptomatic So got tested positive, his 6 year old daughter at school no symptoms got tested - positive, teacher and 3 other pupils in bubble - positive. Actual cases I know the school and the people. Also no evidence of transmission isn’t the same as evidence of no transmission - again. "It’s not my research or opinion - A leading scientist, with researched evidence, backed up with facts that says children are ineffective transmitters of the virus. In my book, that’s a positive, and most certainly good news ahead of the return to school in September. | |||
"This has to be reassuring, positive information, "Scientists are yet to find a single confirmed case of a teacher catching coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to a leading epidemiologist and Sage member"
This is because children have been at home and the countries that have opened schools have far lower case rates. As I have told you a few times before when you have posted this quote I know of 5 - teachers working in key worker hubs. Parent symptomatic So got tested positive, his 6 year old daughter at school no symptoms got tested - positive, teacher and 3 other pupils in bubble - positive. Actual cases I know the school and the people. Also no evidence of transmission isn’t the same as evidence of no transmission - again.
It’s not my research or opinion - A leading scientist, with researched evidence, backed up with facts that says children are ineffective transmitters of the virus.
In my book, that’s a positive, and most certainly good news ahead of the return to school in September.
"I will trust my own eyes and personal experience to tell me this happened they are facts that cannot be disputed. Research papers are only as good as real facts - do you have a link to the report? | |||
"This has to be reassuring, positive information, "Scientists are yet to find a single confirmed case of a teacher catching coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to a leading epidemiologist and Sage member"
This is because children have been at home and the countries that have opened schools have far lower case rates. As I have told you a few times before when you have posted this quote I know of 5 - teachers working in key worker hubs. Parent symptomatic So got tested positive, his 6 year old daughter at school no symptoms got tested - positive, teacher and 3 other pupils in bubble - positive. Actual cases I know the school and the people. Also no evidence of transmission isn’t the same as evidence of no transmission - again.
It’s not my research or opinion - A leading scientist, with researched evidence, backed up with facts that says children are ineffective transmitters of the virus.
In my book, that’s a positive, and most certainly good news ahead of the return to school in September.
I will trust my own eyes and personal experience to tell me this happened they are facts that cannot be disputed. Research papers are only as good as real facts - do you have a link to the report? "Look for Professor Mark Woolhouse. | |||
"This has to be reassuring, positive information, "Scientists are yet to find a single confirmed case of a teacher catching coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to a leading epidemiologist and Sage member"
This is because children have been at home and the countries that have opened schools have far lower case rates. As I have told you a few times before when you have posted this quote I know of 5 - teachers working in key worker hubs. Parent symptomatic So got tested positive, his 6 year old daughter at school no symptoms got tested - positive, teacher and 3 other pupils in bubble - positive. Actual cases I know the school and the people. Also no evidence of transmission isn’t the same as evidence of no transmission - again.
It’s not my research or opinion - A leading scientist, with researched evidence, backed up with facts that says children are ineffective transmitters of the virus.
In my book, that’s a positive, and most certainly good news ahead of the return to school in September.
I will trust my own eyes and personal experience to tell me this happened they are facts that cannot be disputed. Research papers are only as good as real facts - do you have a link to the report?
Look for Professor Mark Woolhouse."Prof Mark WoollyHouse is using his scientific position to promote what is clearly an ideological and political viewpoint. As a Prof of Infectious Diseases at Edinburgh University, he should know better than this. “Absence of evidence does not imply evidence of absence”. However, as I said, he’s like the countries that don’t report positive cases (or in some cases deaths!) because they don’t look for them. He also ignores any potential longer term effects from mild or asymptomatic cases. His argument is essentially countered by the study from South Korea (and others), the clustering of cases in schools when they reopen (our map and from other countries), and importantly for secondary school children “when does a child become an adult”. | |||
"This has to be reassuring, positive information, "Scientists are yet to find a single confirmed case of a teacher catching coronavirus from a pupil anywhere in the world, according to a leading epidemiologist and Sage member"
This is because children have been at home and the countries that have opened schools have far lower case rates. As I have told you a few times before when you have posted this quote I know of 5 - teachers working in key worker hubs. Parent symptomatic So got tested positive, his 6 year old daughter at school no symptoms got tested - positive, teacher and 3 other pupils in bubble - positive. Actual cases I know the school and the people. Also no evidence of transmission isn’t the same as evidence of no transmission - again.
It’s not my research or opinion - A leading scientist, with researched evidence, backed up with facts that says children are ineffective transmitters of the virus.
In my book, that’s a positive, and most certainly good news ahead of the return to school in September.
I will trust my own eyes and personal experience to tell me this happened they are facts that cannot be disputed. Research papers are only as good as real facts - do you have a link to the report?
Look for Professor Mark Woolhouse.
Prof Mark WoollyHouse is using his scientific position to promote what is clearly an ideological and political viewpoint.
As a Prof of Infectious Diseases at Edinburgh University, he should know better than this. “Absence of evidence does not imply evidence of absence”.
However, as I said, he’s like the countries that don’t report positive cases (or in some cases deaths!) because they don’t look for them.
He also ignores any potential longer term effects from mild or asymptomatic cases.
His argument is essentially countered by the study from South Korea (and others), the clustering of cases in schools when they reopen (our map and from other countries), and importantly for secondary school children “when does a child become an adult”." get in touch with him and advise him of your expert opinion ...
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