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By *unlovers OP Couple
over a year ago
rotherham |
Have been told at work that we have to go and get tested even tho we have no symptons
Has anyone been to one of these walk in ones on a random carpark done by military people??
Just wondered what the procedure is and if there is anything I have to take with me
Thankmyou |
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My son has been running this exercise for the last month up in Scotland.
Apparently its a mouth swab and can be done through the window of the car.
He says there is an official NHS representative that collates the information given.
I've seen them a couple of times doing the testing through the leasure center car park where we are. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Was in soho yesterday and there were people trying to get you to pay for a COVID test by the ally where the sex shops were , "
I would certainly be stopping a Bobby and letting them take a look.  |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Have been told at work that we have to go and get tested even tho we have no symptons
Has anyone been to one of these walk in ones on a random carpark done by military people??
Just wondered what the procedure is and if there is anything I have to take with me
Thankmyou"
They may ask for ID. But then you will need to give details anyways for results.
It will be a nose and mouth swab. Take a mask in case they don't let you in without one.
Good luck  |
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"nice in a car park if drive /// what about people who don't drive "
When people arrive in cars they are pre isolated and controlled.
Walk in patients would requre specific isolated holding areas.
This adds cost and extra manpower. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
Also. If there is going to be any place that you are likely to be closer to Covid it's going to be a testing center - indoors particularly - be scrupulous about what you touch don't touch etc etc.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Also. If there is going to be any place that you are likely to be closer to Covid it's going to be a testing center - indoors particularly - be scrupulous about what you touch don't touch etc etc.
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That's a really good point. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"Have been told at work that we have to go and get tested even tho we have no symptons
Has anyone been to one of these walk in ones on a random carpark done by military people??
Just wondered what the procedure is and if there is anything I have to take with me
Thankmyou"
you 'have' too??? err is that even legal for them to say you 'have' too?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Have been told at work that we have to go and get tested even tho we have no symptons
Has anyone been to one of these walk in ones on a random carpark done by military people??
Just wondered what the procedure is and if there is anything I have to take with me
Thankmyou
you 'have' too??? err is that even legal for them to say you 'have' too?? "
Maybe someone in thd company has symptoms.
So the company has all the employees take a test just to be on the safe side ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"asking and forcing are two different things... "
Well it would be the difference of being at work of not.
If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not .
Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"asking and forcing are two different things...
Well it would be the difference of being at work of not.
If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not .
Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative"
not legally enforceable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"asking and forcing are two different things...
Well it would be the difference of being at work of not.
If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not .
Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative
not legally enforceable. "
I work for a pretty large roofing firm.
We have 10 office staff, 1 of the had symptoms on tuesday they closed the office immediately and got all 10 to go home and get tested.
If anyone of them had refused then it would have directly affected all us on the sites.
Legal or not its what they were told not asked. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Been and had it done now
Simples
Awaiting results now
Xxxx"
What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other?
Good luck. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"asking and forcing are two different things...
Well it would be the difference of being at work of not.
If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not .
Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative
not legally enforceable.
I work for a pretty large roofing firm.
We have 10 office staff, 1 of the had symptoms on tuesday they closed the office immediately and got all 10 to go home and get tested.
If anyone of them had refused then it would have directly affected all us on the sites.
Legal or not its what they were told not asked."
yer theyv acted illegally then. i can give you 3or4 examples of staff members testing positive and ZERO other staff being told they HAVE TOO be tested. that they should or shouldn't wasnt my point, thats down to individuals. my point was/is its illegal if they try and force you |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Been and had it done now
Simples
Awaiting results now
Xxxx
What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other?
Good luck. "
I'm a bit of a wimp and don't fancy anything stuck up my nose and round my tonsils! But I think it's a good thing to do |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"asking and forcing are two different things...
Well it would be the difference of being at work of not.
If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not .
Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Have been told at work that we have to go and get tested even tho we have no symptons
Has anyone been to one of these walk in ones on a random carpark done by military people??
Just wondered what the procedure is and if there is anything I have to take with me
Thankmyou"
It’s really simple... drive in, confirm your details, wind down your window, they swab you’re throat, then your nose... job done.
You don’t need ID or anything just your name and date of birth. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Have been told at work that we have to go and get tested even tho we have no symptons
Has anyone been to one of these walk in ones on a random carpark done by military people??
Just wondered what the procedure is and if there is anything I have to take with me
Thankmyou
It’s really simple... drive in, confirm your details, wind down your window, they swab you’re throat, then your nose... job done.
You don’t need ID or anything just your name and date of birth."
Sounds easy enough |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
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no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too "
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it. "
no? your point being? |
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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago
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"asking and forcing are two different things...
Well it would be the difference of being at work of not.
If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not .
Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative
not legally enforceable.
I work for a pretty large roofing firm.
We have 10 office staff, 1 of the had symptoms on tuesday they closed the office immediately and got all 10 to go home and get tested.
If anyone of them had refused then it would have directly affected all us on the sites.
Legal or not its what they were told not asked."
Sounds reasonable to me what you just described. It may not be a legal requirement but its there for the good of others and that's important |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work."
they cant. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant."
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can."
that works both ways. they cant. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant. "
as proved by my own company. and others on our site |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant. "
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
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i have and won thanks. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
i have and won thanks. "
Yea sure you did. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
i have and won thanks.
Yea sure you did."
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
i have and won thanks.
Yea sure you did."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?"
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
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Totally agree. The options are - ask people to be tested and when results come back, return to work ASAP or don’t ask and tell everyone who’s had contact with that person to self isolate for 14 days on statutory sick pay which is naff all.
I know which one I prefer x |
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
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I expect this will come under the new powers for local authorities recently announced where they can close places / local lockdown without the need for a law. I imagine that if others employees refused to be tested the whole company could be forced to shut temporary. Just an opinion |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
I expect this will come under the new powers for local authorities recently announced where they can close places / local lockdown without the need for a law. I imagine that if others employees refused to be tested the whole company could be forced to shut temporary. Just an opinion"
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?"
because they have a choice? their choice? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Been and had it done now
Simples
Awaiting results now
Xxxx
What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other?
Good luck.
I'm a bit of a wimp and don't fancy anything stuck up my nose and round my tonsils! But I think it's a good thing to do "
I don't fancy it either, it sounds horrendous. But I agree it's a good thing to do. I don't know why anyone would refuse to get tested.  |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"Totally clear that if your employer did anything other than apply the Law - they have NO regard for employee health and safety.
Change your employer. "
im my own boss. you can ask of course. but you cant force them. simple really |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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23rd April, EEOC green lighted mandatory
medical testing for covid19. An individual with the virus, will pose a direct threat to others. Therefore employers may choose to test employees before they enter the work place. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
I expect this will come under the new powers for local authorities recently announced where they can close places / local lockdown without the need for a law. I imagine that if others employees refused to be tested the whole company could be forced to shut temporary. Just an opinion
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
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"23rd April, EEOC green lighted mandatory
medical testing for covid19. An individual with the virus, will pose a direct threat to others. Therefore employers may choose to test employees before they enter the work place."
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?
because they have a choice? their choice? "
Perfectly their choice - no one is arguing that - but the current regulations mean that if an employee refuses to be tested they can be refused access to the workplace - if an employer thinks that an employee is postive it is their duty in Law to 'Notify' the health authority in their area and refuse entry to the workplace until they are deemed not to have it.
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?
because they have a choice? their choice? "
And if you do have it and you're infecting people who take it home to their at risk relatives and they die. You'll feel great for demanding your right not to get tested. Who gives a shit about the dead people.
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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I quoted you the current Law as is right now today. COVID is a reportable disease. There is NO choice but to report and to restrict access to the workplace if an employee will not cooperate. |
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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago
Merseyside |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?
because they have a choice? their choice?
Perfectly their choice - no one is arguing that - but the current regulations mean that if an employee refuses to be tested they can be refused access to the workplace - if an employer thinks that an employee is postive it is their duty in Law to 'Notify' the health authority in their area and refuse entry to the workplace until they are deemed not to have it.
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if the employer THINKS the employee is positive??? is he or she a doctor all of a sudden?? the legal minefield your entering is unreal. people are arguing if its choice or not? im saying legally a employer cant say i think your covid positive so get tested or no work. simple really. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?
because they have a choice? their choice?
Perfectly their choice - no one is arguing that - but the current regulations mean that if an employee refuses to be tested they can be refused access to the workplace - if an employer thinks that an employee is postive it is their duty in Law to 'Notify' the health authority in their area and refuse entry to the workplace until they are deemed not to have it.
if the employer THINKS the employee is positive??? is he or she a doctor all of a sudden?? the legal minefield your entering is unreal. people are arguing if its choice or not? im saying legally a employer cant say i think your covid positive so get tested or no work. simple really. "
Yes. Thinks is enough. That is the lattitude given under the current Law.
Duty of Care includes THINKS under the reportable diseases Act.
And why would you not go and get tested? |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"23rd April, EEOC green lighted mandatory
medical testing for covid19. An individual with the virus, will pose a direct threat to others. Therefore employers may choose to test employees before they enter the work place."
Hmm..that might be an American thing, maybe someone on here might know? |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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Just like a Policeman has the right to arrest if he THINKS a crime is about to be or is being committed.
The leagal test can come later - but I bet it would result in reasonble cause to act under the duty of care with regard to Reportable Diseases.
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By *unlovers OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Been and had it done now
Simples
Awaiting results now
Xxxx
What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other?
Good luck. "
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Been and had it done now
Simples
Awaiting results now
Xxxx
What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other?
Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly"
Yay. Good that you had a positive experience - when do you find out?
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By *ouanna JoWoman
over a year ago
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"Been and had it done now
Simples
Awaiting results now
Xxxx
What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other?
Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly"
I personally found the process really unpleasant 
Although the people were lovely and put me ease. |
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"Been and had it done now
Simples
Awaiting results now
Xxxx
What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other?
Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly
Yay. Good that you had a positive experience - when do you find out?
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Normally within 24hrs |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Been and had it done now
Simples
Awaiting results now
Xxxx
What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other?
Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly
I personally found the process really unpleasant
Although the people were lovely and put me ease. "
Probably depends who does it and how gentle they are |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"I did the swabbing myself
No one touched anything but me
Just hope I shoved it down my throat far enough and up my nose
Results in 2 days
Xxx"
I found it quite painful. Mine took two days too. Very rapid. |
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By *ouanna JoWoman
over a year ago
A little village |
"Been and had it done now
Simples
Awaiting results now
Xxxx
What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other?
Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly
I personally found the process really unpleasant
Although the people were lovely and put me ease.
Probably depends who does it and how gentle they are "
She was so lovely and gentle. The problem is I have severe emetophobia and terrible anxiety about anything going near the back of my throat. It was very distressing experience. But I work for the NHS so had no choice but to be tested really (well I had a choice as far as my employer was concerned; but I suppose I felt morally I should do it). Won’t want to be repeating it any time soon though! |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Been and had it done now
Simples
Awaiting results now
Xxxx
What was the process like? How were the other people getting tested- nervous... friendly... 'all in it together' rooting for each other?
Good luck.
Process was simple and everyone was really friendly
I personally found the process really unpleasant
Although the people were lovely and put me ease.
Probably depends who does it and how gentle they are
She was so lovely and gentle. The problem is I have severe emetophobia and terrible anxiety about anything going near the back of my throat. It was very distressing experience. But I work for the NHS so had no choice but to be tested really (well I had a choice as far as my employer was concerned; but I suppose I felt morally I should do it). Won’t want to be repeating it any time soon though! "
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Bless you. I gag when I brush my teeth |
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can.
that works both ways. they cant.
Oh well you go argus with the law . . . it's clear that they can . . . COVID is a reportable disease meaning that anyone in any sphere can be removed by failing to act with proper legal instruction - if a test is part of that instruction they can be told to do it. If they don't the employer has the legal right and duty to remove them from work.
i have and won thanks. "
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
In a perfect world maybe.
But these days the world ain't perfect is it.
no? your point being?
Why would anyone refuse to take a test ?"
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I had a high temp last month. We all have our temps taken as we get to work. If it's high then or any other time we have to leave the workplace and get tested.
I went online and booked my test at a drive in test centre close to home. They take my name etc plus the car reg. When i pulled into the test centre they checked the details, there are at least 5 other areas that i had to drive through and read the info they showed me on flip charts, they also call me on my mobile and talk me through it. Everyone was polite, friendly, helpful and smiley. I was very nervous as im very high risk and should have been shielding but my GP mistakenly sent my letter late. I chose to do the test myself. They give full instructions, i did it, its not pleasant but its quick. I was told id get the results within 48 hours. I actually got them within 24 hours. I was negative thank goodness. If id tested positive i would have to have gone home, packed a bag and gone straight to hospital after phoning and finding out where to go. Thats because im very high risk.
Thankfully i tested negative.
I see no reason to refuse to get tested and if id refused i wouldnt have been paid. We have to protect our clients and all the staff. |
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Didn't think there were walk in ones thought they were all drive through. Also didn't think your work can order you to have a test.
Where I work we are having a research team come in and people can volunteer to have a series of 3 antigen tests and an antibody test. |
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"asking and forcing are two different things...
Well it would be the difference of being at work of not.
If the company couldn't ascertain if certain staff never had the virus or not .
Then it would be wise not to have them at work until they had the test and it came back negative"
That's just ridiculous. If you test negative today, you could catch it on the way home then take it back in to work tomorrow
There is little point in testing people with no symptoms just for the sake of testing them.
I'm lucky in that I work for the civil service I guess and any period of isolation is aid by way of special leave. I guess the private sector don't pay if you are ordered to be off under government guidelines. |
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"I think telling staff to get tested is a 'Duty of Care Responsibility' for the Company really.
They could just as easily say 'Okay. No Test No Work'.
If it was the other way around and they had done nothing to protect staff - then staff would have been screaming 'You didn't protect us!'.
Employment safety is a two-way-street that is sadly often forgotten by employees.
no they can 'ask' staff. they cant say 'no test no work' workers rights are often forgotten too
Yes. they can say. no test no work.
they cant.
It is important to note that the employee also has an implied duty of trust and confidence which may be invoked by these circumstances. An employee who refuses to comply would therefore not only potentially be in breach of a reasonable management instruction, but could breach their duty of mutual trust and confidence by failing to comply with their obligations under the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974. Therefore, the way in which you could require employees to take a test would be by initiating a disciplinary process.
Yes. They can."
They can't. The only breach under the HSAW 1974 is to knowingly attend work when you are unwell and unable to carry out your duties safely.
As the test is penatrative no one can force you to have it, let alone your employer. But they can advise you stick to the guidelines and isolate for 7 or 14 days depending on if you or a member of your household has symptoms.
Covid is only reportable under RIDDOR if it can be reasonable to suspect that it was a result of occupational exposure. Not all cases are reportable. |
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By *unlovers OP Couple
over a year ago
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If you had recently been watching the news it mentioned all people in Rotherham need testing whether they have symptons or not due to the high volume of deaths once again
People round here are ignoring the rules and having mad parties and gatherings
I had the test cos I wanted one
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By *ouanna JoWoman
over a year ago
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"Didn't think there were walk in ones thought they were all drive through. Also didn't think your work can order you to have a test.
Where I work we are having a research team come in and people can volunteer to have a series of 3 antigen tests and an antibody test. "
I work for the NHS and we can’t be “ordered” to have a test - still optional at the moment. It’s strongly recommended of course, but optional. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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The point was that the employer can refuse an employee access back into to the workplace if they do not get tested.
In addition the gov changed the law to make it a reportable disease.
'At 6.15pm on 5 March 2020, a statutory instrument was made into law that adds COVID-19 to the list of notifiable diseases and SARS-COV-2 to the list of notifiable causative agents.'
Easily found on .gov |
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"The point was that the employer can refuse an employee access back into to the workplace if they do not get tested.
In addition the gov changed the law to make it a reportable disease.
'At 6.15pm on 5 March 2020, a statutory instrument was made into law that adds COVID-19 to the list of notifiable diseases and SARS-COV-2 to the list of notifiable causative agents.'
Easily found on .gov "
Ah so not under hsaw act as previously stated. OK. Notifiable and reportable are different things.
I would like to see how challengable not allowing staff back to work is though. Until recently you could only get tests if you were symptomatic as there is little point testing those without symptoms. It gives no assurances as you could drive out of a test site and catch it before your negative result comes back.
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For clarification PHE require notification of any confirmed cases of the following diseases:
Diseases notifiable to local authority proper officers under the Health Protection (Notification) Regulations 2010:
Acute encephalitis
Acute infectious hepatitis
Acute meningitis
Acute poliomyelitis
Anthrax
Botulism
Brucellosis
Cholera
COVID-19
Diphtheria
Enteric fever (typhoid or paratyphoid fever)
Food poisoning
Haemolytic uraemic syndrome (HUS)
Infectious bloody diarrhoea
Invasive group A streptococcal disease
Legionnaires’ disease
Leprosy
Malaria
Measles
Meningococcal septicaemia
Mumps
Plague
Rabies
Rubella
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS)
Scarlet fever
Smallpox
Tetanus
Tuberculosis
Typhus
Viral haemorrhagic fever (VHF)
Whooping cough
Yellow fever
Source: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/notifiable-diseases-and-causative-organisms-how-to-report |
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Can my employer force me to take a covid test?
The testing regime is voluntary and ultimately an employer cannot force an employee to take the test against their will.
But this is similar ground to a request to take a drug and alcohol test, or attend an appointment with occupational health, and refusal may be considered refusal of a reasonable management request, which could result in disciplinary action.
However, failure to attend Occupational Health appointments would not usually be considered an act of gross misconduct, unless it was part of a longer term pattern of behaviour.
Source: https://www.gmb.org.uk/support/coronavirus/test-trace-and-protect |
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