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Not sure why people expect a spike when colder weather arrives

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By *ob Carpe Diem OP   Man  over a year ago

Torquay

Seems to me that it's running pretty rampantly across Florida and California right now, what evidence is there that the virus transmits more in the cold

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Seems to me that it's running pretty rampantly across Florida and California right now, what evidence is there that the virus transmits more in the cold"

Because it transmits better inside.

In the winter we spend more time inside to keep warm...the same is happening in Florida but they are inside to stay cool. Think about it...

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS  over a year ago

Blackpool

The Luciferian left would have you believe that New York is the model to defeat Covid 19. However...

"In per-capita terms, New York has had 1,668 deaths per million. In contrast, Arizona has had 308, Florida 199, California 179 and Texas 114."

Also, its now just being reported that the Florida covid + tests have been skewed by a factor of 10. Example (9.4 to 94)

Investigations are now going on in Texas and Arizona.

There's a lot of Demonrats in lab coats, and shut down till the fall politics going on that don't or won't get reported along with the FALLING death rates throuout America.

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"Seems to me that it's running pretty rampantly across Florida and California right now, what evidence is there that the virus transmits more in the cold"

Not sure you need a lot of evidence. At the moment many of us are outside most of the time. In cold wet winter we will all be inside more. It transfers more in confined indoor spaces than outdoor spaces.

It is also known that the viral load impacts how severely any infection affects the host.

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By *ackformore100Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"The Luciferian left would have you believe that New York is the model to defeat Covid 19. However...

"In per-capita terms, New York has had 1,668 deaths per million. In contrast, Arizona has had 308, Florida 199, California 179 and Texas 114."

Also, its now just being reported that the Florida covid + tests have been skewed by a factor of 10. Example (9.4 to 94)

Investigations are now going on in Texas and Arizona.

There's a lot of Demonrats in lab coats, and shut down till the fall politics going on that don't or won't get reported along with the FALLING death rates throuout America.

"

On that we agree, you have to be very careful... There's a lot of well intentioned but inaccurate "facts" being punted around the Internet along with a lot of less well intentioned deliberate misinformation. Getting to a version of the "truth" is not easy.

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By *D835Man  over a year ago

London


"The Luciferian left would have you believe that New York is the model to defeat Covid 19. However...

"In per-capita terms, New York has had 1,668 deaths per million. In contrast, Arizona has had 308, Florida 199, California 179 and Texas 114."

Also, its now just being reported that the Florida covid + tests have been skewed by a factor of 10. Example (9.4 to 94)

Investigations are now going on in Texas and Arizona.

There's a lot of Demonrats in lab coats, and shut down till the fall politics going on that don't or won't get reported along with the FALLING death rates throuout America.

"

In Florida, Texas, Arizona, California infection rates are on the increase.

In Texas the number of infections have increased to the point where the number of hospitalisations have now reached a record high.

Hospitalisations in some areas are now 4 times higher than there were in April.

That is the reason why some states have had to reimpose lock-down restrictions.

While things are getting better in some places, it is getting worse elsewhere.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Research suggests that the virus lasts longer in the air at 4 degrees C along with people being inside more. Same reasons as why more people have a cold in the winter. Same sort of principle.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

People get colds in the winter, easy to spread the cold and the virus simultaneously, just like hay fever suffers during the hotter seasons. A sneeze is a surprisingly dangerous weapon

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

The absence of something or because there's a differential, doesn't mean that everything, or even anything, will change. You'd perform research to help to support your hypothesis, rather than insist that something must be true because you want to believe it will be, etc.

If you're curious, look at the link between winter weather and conditions, with health. Apart from diminished natural formation of vitamin D during winter, in many locations, there are many other aspects of winter conditions and lifestyle changes that impact upon health, including acquisition and severity of infections. Comordity is frequently a problem, if someone has different health problems but which may result in impaired abilities to contend with other problems or disabilities even.

We also are just at the beginning of learning about this specific infection. We don't understand our immune response, how our successive infections of it may impact on health, if we do acquire multiple infections of it, nor the longer term impacts of the damage that's already occurred in those infected to date.

Not having died from this viral infection is obviously better than having passed away. We now know that many who have had mild symptoms have acquired brain and other organ damage. Would a repeat infection lead to organ failures? We don't know. Neither do we know whether those who had mild symptoms would be likely to just have mild symptoms or any at all, if they could catch it again.

Winter brings people indoors more in the UK. As many have been away from work environments for months, there may be impacts from working indoors, where heated air circulates, ss it does in shops, restaurants, bars etc.

After several months of impaired physical and mental health, due to ongoing problems this year through to winter, we can only theorise how people will be come winter. Many people are already low in mood and this may affect how well they are able to face infection in future. It's a complex matter and won't just be about people enjoying easy rest by a log fire, distant from others but healthy. It's winter in the southern hemisphere now, so some aspects of life there may be relevant for us to learn from. Unlike New Zealand, in its winter, the UK isn't planning to fully eradicate the virus by winter, so we should study some other southern countries and how they are faring.

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By *bi_AstrayTV/TS  over a year ago

Plymouth

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By *bi_AstrayTV/TS  over a year ago

Plymouth

There's a reason there has been outbreaks in cold damp meat packaging plants throughout parts of Europe.

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By *on12xxMan  over a year ago

leeds

Yes look at Australia now in winter spreading.

Time to open your eyes scientists now openly disagreeing with Boris.

Simply questions what's more important a life or money?

If you chooseee Money I despair

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By *on12xxMan  over a year ago

leeds

65k additionally deaths over last year

65 k reasons to put life first

How come Scotland in So much better place then England

Scotland put lives first

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Seems to me that it's running pretty rampantly across Florida and California right now, what evidence is there that the virus transmits more in the cold

Because it transmits better inside.

In the winter we spend more time inside to keep warm...the same is happening in Florida but they are inside to stay cool. Think about it..."

I thought this answered the question at the beginning...seems a lot of waffle off subject since

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By *ancardiff7Man  over a year ago

Near Cowbridge

I believe that temperature also plays a part in the durability of the lipid surrounding area that protects the virus.

In other words, a higher temperature melts the fatty cover of the virus, exposing it to harm.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS  over a year ago

Horsham

Could it be that our immune systems will be compromised by a common cold, making the more healthier of us at risk to the virus.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Because UKGovs conditioning people to expect another spike, all part of creating fear and trying to control the majority.

The only spike was when they imposed lockdown on us and that was more to do with essential treatments being shut down than any so called Bat Flu.

No chemo, no dialysis, no operations untreated heart & stroke patients, no post mortems to determine cause of death and medical professionals all too ready to put any death, despite the evidence down to C-19.

The only second wave of anything will be if, or when, they lock us down again.

It's no wonder Hancock has taken Yoon Locke's report about recorded C-19 deaths seriously and is asking for a recount.

If done properly we might get near to the true figures of Bat Flu fatalities.

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By *ancardiff7Man  over a year ago

Near Cowbridge


"Because UKGovs conditioning people to expect another spike, all part of creating fear and trying to control the majority.

The only spike was when they imposed lockdown on us and that was more to do with essential treatments being shut down than any so called Bat Flu.

No chemo, no dialysis, no operations untreated heart & stroke patients, no post mortems to determine cause of death and medical professionals all too ready to put any death, despite the evidence down to C-19.

The only second wave of anything will be if, or when, they lock us down again.

It's no wonder Hancock has taken Yoon Locke's report about recorded C-19 deaths seriously and is asking for a recount.

If done properly we might get near to the true figures of Bat Flu fatalities."

Any chance of a lend of your tin foil hat? Should keep the 5G waves off my brain innit.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS  over a year ago

Durham


"Because UKGovs conditioning people to expect another spike, all part of creating fear and trying to control the majority.

The only spike was when they imposed lockdown on us and that was more to do with essential treatments being shut down than any so called Bat Flu.

No chemo, no dialysis, no operations untreated heart & stroke patients, no post mortems to determine cause of death and medical professionals all too ready to put any death, despite the evidence down to C-19.

The only second wave of anything will be if, or when, they lock us down again.

It's no wonder Hancock has taken Yoon Locke's report about recorded C-19 deaths seriously and is asking for a recount.

If done properly we might get near to the true figures of Bat Flu fatalities."

This has to be a wind up surely?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Read a report that said the virus is more active at 4c

We still don’t know enough about this virus but we do know flu follows the winter increase happens

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Some of this is down to the conservatism and over-caution of the medical profession.

If you look back over history they said similar things about SARS, swine flu, AIDS etc all predicting world-wide pandemics which never happened.

This one has happened, but as far as I can see there is no particular reason why another spike should definitely happen in the winter or at any other particular time. It may happen, or it may not.

But if it does there won't be another national lockdown. The economy couldn't take it. Local ones possibly.

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By *D835Man  over a year ago

London


"Some of this is down to the conservatism and over-caution of the medical profession.

If you look back over history they said similar things about SARS, swine flu, AIDS etc all predicting world-wide pandemics which never happened.

This one has happened, but as far as I can see there is no particular reason why another spike should definitely happen in the winter or at any other particular time. It may happen, or it may not.

But if it does there won't be another national lockdown. The economy couldn't take it. Local ones possibly."

I think it’s best to be over cautious than complacent. It was the lack of preparedness in March that caused things to spiral out of control so quickly.

As to whether there will be a spike in winter, you say “ It may happen, or it may not.”. I share the same view as well. This virus is new and we can’t predict just yet what turn it could take in the coming weeks / months.

As for a national lockdown, I doubt there will be the need for that regardless of whether it will affect the economy or not.

If / when we get any spikes, they will be dealt with at a local level before it has the opportunity to spread nationally.

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