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Masks are as important as your keys.

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So do you also bring your mask with you when you go out? They are especially useful in enclosed spaces like shops and transport

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple over a year ago

Broadstairs

Haven’t got one as good as useless unless you have the approved ones also consider that they de humanise you

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By *tableMasterMan over a year ago

Yes we always wear one in shops and enclosed spaces. The advice on these is about to change.

Any level of protection is better than nothing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have to wear one all day at work I can't wait to take it off,it's horrible. I don't wear one out of work,obviously would if it became compulsory x

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By *atEvolutionCouple over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

"So do you also bring your mask with you when you go out? They are especially useful in enclosed spaces like shops and transport

Always - and gloves.

But masks are fun too - you can pull tongues at people

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By *all me FlikWoman over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

Yes always have them with me for enclosed spaces. I've noticed a lot more people are wearing them now.

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"Yes we always wear one in shops and enclosed spaces. The advice on these is about to change.

Any level of protection is better than nothing. "

Yep, any protection is better than nothing. I always wear one in any indoor setting apart from my home.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan over a year ago

Luton

I take one or two when I'm out but haven't yet been in a situation where 2m distance is difficult.

Most of my walks are in fields, and on the edge of the town centre where few people are about. I haven't used public transport since March 17th.

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS over a year ago

Blackpool

Anyone with half a brain cell knows this is a financial decision. Make masks mandatory in shops, so the Coronaphobic get back out and spend money in them.

If Boris thinks England is copy of the CCP China, he's in for a rude awakening.and will backfire.

Oh,and It's bars Saturday again week 2,mask wearing 0% is he going to shut the bars down, No thought not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

12 weeks after the start of this crap, now wear a mask I can't stop laughing . It's like someone saying let's see what we can make them do now. Next week it will be holding your breath if you pass on the stairs.

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By *arracksCouple over a year ago

Deal

The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

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By *ady LickWoman over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

25% of people in England wear masks compared to 70%+ in Europe and elsewhere.

Says a lot about our attitude doesn't it?

They'll be compulsory by the end of next week so better get some in!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up."

Imagine a human that after all this time still doesn't understand asymptomatic

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By *arracksCouple over a year ago

Deal

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up."

I guess unless you know people who have died,you won't understand it isn't a flu and we have never had a vaccine for COVID, so take that as you will. For those of us on the frontline,it is scarily real and we are all doing everything we can to keep everyone safe, if that means donning a mask,so be it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

The WHO are a fucking joke...I seem they made a statement saying "6 months in none of us expected a virus to take a hold like this". Its thier job to know...they get paid a fortune from the workds richest counties for precisely this.

I think one thing we have learnt is the WHO needs a bloody big shake up.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple over a year ago

Broadstairs

"25% of people in England wear masks compared to 70%+ in Europe and elsewhere.

Says a lot about our attitude doesn't it?

They'll be compulsory by the end of next week so better get some in!"
If it becomes compulsory then say good bye to the high street ,say goodbye to god knows how many jobs in the high street

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

Imagine a human that after all this time still doesn't understand asymptomatic"
I do we all carry grems that we can spread, but deadly virus that kill you. No don't understand that one.

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By *arracksCouple over a year ago

Deal

"The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

I think one thing we have learnt is the WHO needs a bloody big shake up."

Agree entirely, the guidance was down to an international shortage of FFP3 masks that we all should have had access to and still don't.There is currently another national shortage of PPE

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up."

And what about the tens of thousands who have been sick of covid or had some symptoms, did they need a test to know they were sick ( of something)?

Certainly not. They felt sick and / or had symptoms without a test.

All the test does is: confirm whether it is covid or not.

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS over a year ago

Blackpool

The only people the "WHO" Are under extreme pressure from is the CCP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not had the pleasure in going out for a month, probably going on public transport for the first time since march this week so I'll be all masked up for the first time.

Danish x

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By *arracksCouple over a year ago

Deal

"The only people the "WHO" Are under extreme pressure from is the CCP

Group of 232 scientists from 33 countries

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By *arksxMan over a year ago

Leicester / London

"Haven’t got one as good as useless unless you have the approved ones also consider that they de humanise you "

You know what else sic (de humanise) you being dead

Or how about excreting your bodily fluids onto a hospital bed as you die grasping for you last breath.

It's not all about you...its ensuring you dont spread this virus or any other onto other people.

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By *ady LickWoman over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

"25% of people in England wear masks compared to 70%+ in Europe and elsewhere.

Says a lot about our attitude doesn't it?

They'll be compulsory by the end of next week so better get some in! If it becomes compulsory then say good bye to the high street ,say goodbye to god knows how many jobs in the high street "

It might have a small impact on the high street but not to the extreme you're implying.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

And what about the tens of thousands who have been sick of covid or had some symptoms, did they need a test to know they were sick ( of something)?

Certainly not. They felt sick and / or had symptoms without a test.

All the test does is: confirm whether it is covid or not. "
so why tell people to go and get a test even if they show no signs?

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple over a year ago

Broadstairs

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"25% of people in England wear masks compared to 70%+ in Europe and elsewhere.

Says a lot about our attitude doesn't it?

They'll be compulsory by the end of next week so better get some in! If it becomes compulsory then say good bye to the high street ,say goodbye to god knows how many jobs in the high street "

**“....... If it becomes compulsory then say good bye to the high street....”**

No, it will be goodbye to people like you going back to the high street.

Other people who wish to help the economy and understand the need for safety while doing so, will still be out and about shopping.

In parts of Europe and Asia, people are willing to wear face coverings to enter shops. As a result they haven’t had to say good bye to their high street.

The attitude over here is what will make England became one of the last countries to get out of this pandemic virus.

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By *arriedVsMan over a year ago

London

"The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

I think one thing we have learnt is the WHO needs a bloody big shake up."

Fauchi is the main guy everyone is taking their advise from!

Fact one before Fauci was in WHO he was in trouble for taking money to lie!

Fact 2 all the virus that were in labs a law was passed by WHO against all and any lab testing indefinitely!

Except for 1 exception the Covid 19 Fauci was THE ONE and Only one to make that happen!

Fauci is years claiming there will be a surprise outbreak!

Fauci is SATAN himself he did exactly the same in the 80s with so called aids epidemic!

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By *ir-spunk-alotMan over a year ago

Southern England

"Haven’t got one as good as useless unless you have the approved ones also consider that they de humanise you "
and being hooked up to a ventilator doesn't!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Haven’t got one as good as useless unless you have the approved ones also consider that they de humanise you and being hooked up to a ventilator doesn't!!!!"
Stopped using ventilators now, they just kill you more skowly. They got that wrong as well.

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

And what about the tens of thousands who have been sick of covid or had some symptoms, did they need a test to know they were sick ( of something)?

Certainly not. They felt sick and / or had symptoms without a test.

All the test does is: confirm whether it is covid or not. so why tell people to go and get a test even if they show no signs?"

Because there is something called : asymptomatic.

And this is not unique to covid. There are several other illnesses and diseases you can have (including STDs,) where you don’t show any symptoms.

Why do you think people go for regular STD tests even when they have no symptoms?

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By *itnkatCouple over a year ago

in lincs between lincoln grantham boston

Amazing during lockdown how polite people were we met at shops drivers let you out at junctions now the idolts are out again don't know any one who died but ain't going to put any one at risk soon as we go out the door masks on and try to keep a safe distance

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I carry a mask with me in my handbag, just in case i need it. So far i have only worn one once, i had a blood test done at my GPs surgery. I'm getting my hair cut later today and i will have to wear one then.

I rarely go in shops now, however at work we can't keep 2 metres apart nor do we wear PPE.

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By *sm265Woman over a year ago

Shangri-la

I really don't understand why some people have such an issue with being asked to wear a face covering. I think it should have been mandatory from the start, or at least from the point where lockdown restrictions started being lifted.

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By *mmabluTV/TS over a year ago

upton wirral

"Anyone with half a brain cell knows this is a financial decision. Make masks mandatory in shops, so the Coronaphobic get back out and spend money in them.

If Boris thinks England is copy of the CCP China, he's in for a rude awakening.and will backfire.

Oh,and It's bars Saturday again week 2,mask wearing 0% is he going to shut the bars down, No thought not.

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We are not all as cynical as you

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By *estivalMan over a year ago

borehamwood

town i live in reakon inly bout 5% are wearing them.if they make em compulsary i hope the gona be supplying em.i should imagine the same peeps who were stripping the supermarkets of everything a few months ago will now be buying up all the masks.and if u going for a punt and some food in a pub how you sposed to eat and drink? if there that important how come we wasnt told to wear them four months ago wen it was running riot.think there just trying to see who follows and who dosent now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I really don't understand why some people have such an issue with being asked to wear a face covering. I think it should have been mandatory from the start, or at least from the point where lockdown restrictions started being lifted. "

Because of the science...we would touch the mask too often some said...we would feel invincible when wearing one some said. Yeah right ...just wash our hands whilst singing happy birthday twice Boris and Hancock said. To a fucking airborne virus.

I've been wearing them in shops long before lockdown...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"town i live in reakon inly bout 5% are wearing them.if they make em compulsary i hope the gona be supplying em.i should imagine the same peeps who were stripping the supermarkets of everything a few months ago will now be buying up all the masks.and if u going for a punt and some food in a pub how you sposed to eat and drink? if there that important how come we wasnt told to wear them four months ago wen it was running riot.think there just trying to see who follows and who dosent now"

Home bargains...sainsbury's...aldi. paper face masks are readily available in them and many more shops for around a pound per mask. They were 10 for a quid pre covid though

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

**”.... if there that important how come we wasnt told to wear them four months ago....”***

We are usually 1 week to 4 months behind in implementing something that should have been done earlier

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By *ornyhappyCouple over a year ago

perth

Face coverings (not specifically masks) are now manditory up here in places where social distancing is more difficult, such as in shops and on public transport. Pubs/restaurants do not require customers to wear masks because other measures are in place & they are taking customer details for track & trace purposes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

**”.... if there that important how come we wasnt told to wear them four months ago....”***

We are usually 1 week to 4 months behind in implementing something that should have been done earlier

Because people would have rushed out and bought up all of the sticks of masks leavening the health service struggling monte than it did do just like the toilet roll and pasta

It’s an easy thing to bring in just refuse entry to shops transport and any places that are indoors to anyone who refuses to wear a mask.

You are always going to get the odd git who wants to be awkward just because they can be use that’s just human nature but the majority will cooperate

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

**”.... if there that important how come we wasnt told to wear them four months ago....”***

We are usually 1 week to 4 months behind in implementing something that should have been done earlier

Because people would have rushed out and bought up all of the sticks of masks leavening the health service struggling monte than it did do just like the toilet roll and pasta

It’s an easy thing to bring in just refuse entry to shops transport and any places that are indoors to anyone who refuses to wear a mask.

You are always going to get the odd git who wants to be awkward just because they can be use that’s just human nature but the majority will cooperate

**"....but the majority will cooperate..."**

That's what I'm hoping for.

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By *arracksCouple over a year ago

Deal

Masks are for mutual protection, just wear one when you can't social distance, it's just a new normal whilst this shit is around, it will probably be for a long time sadly,no vaccine, no closed borders, dreading the flu season

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By *moothman2000Man over a year ago

Leicestershire

Whilst not against the idea in principle, I do think there will be a lot of confusion as to what to buy and where to buy from.

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By *ir-spunk-alotMan over a year ago

Southern England

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So do you also bring your mask with you when you go out? They are especially useful in enclosed spaces like shops and transport

Yes

Feels weird not wearing one in shops.

You can't get on public transport in my area, without one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The message for months was there no medical evidence showing benefit in wearing a mask so a bit confused by the current speculation. Mixed messages I feel ?

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By *arracksCouple over a year ago

Deal

"The message for months was there no medical evidence showing benefit in wearing a mask so a bit confused by the current speculation. Mixed messages I feel ?"

Agree, the guidelines have been dreadful, but there are definite benefits

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"So do you also bring your mask with you when you go out? They are especially useful in enclosed spaces like shops and transport

Always - and gloves.

But masks are fun too - you can pull tongues at people

"
Yes you can do that too lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Yes we always wear one in shops and enclosed spaces. The advice on these is about to change.

Any level of protection is better than nothing. "
That is good and yes it is better than nothing as well

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By *cloversCouple over a year ago

Hull

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

Absolutely this. Whilst everyone is getting back to shopping, drinking - masks or no masks - we're still working ourselves to the point of being on our knees, wearing PPE constantly, wiping anything we use or touch - can't even share a pen.

Watch someone die of it & then come back to us & tell us how that felt?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up."

That's just silly and naive and totally disrespectful to hundreds of thousands that have had it badly

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By *ouanna JoWoman over a year ago

A little village

"I have to wear one all day at work I can't wait to take it off,it's horrible. I don't wear one out of work,obviously would if it became compulsory x"

Same. I have to endure long shifts Mon-Fri with them on and it’s awful - I feel so suffocated especially in hot weather. No plans on put myself through extra hell outside of work until I get told I have no choice

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

Watch someone die of it & then come back to us & tell us how that felt? "

This is one of the reasons I think it should be mandatory for everyone to wear masks. Healthcare workers have to. Make the covidiots suffer too, they might realise it's not a joke or conspiracy theory.

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By *all me FlikWoman over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

"25% of people in England wear masks compared to 70%+ in Europe and elsewhere.

Says a lot about our attitude doesn't it?

They'll be compulsory by the end of next week so better get some in! If it becomes compulsory then say good bye to the high street ,say goodbye to god knows how many jobs in the high street "

Why?...wear a mask, high street saved...simples

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"25% of people in England wear masks compared to 70%+ in Europe and elsewhere.

Says a lot about our attitude doesn't it?

They'll be compulsory by the end of next week so better get some in! If it becomes compulsory then say good bye to the high street ,say goodbye to god knows how many jobs in the high street

Why?...wear a mask, high street saved...simples"

The UK is very liberal. Many will refuse to wear masks just like in the US, generally we are less ignorant than them but there will still be many who will refuse, just like the situation with not using cash.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled. Its fairly obvious its airborne. It begs the question why would you trust any advice from them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled. Its fairly obvious its airborne. It begs the question why would you trust any advice from them"

Well they are meant to be the best advisors to deal with this level of viral threat. It seems they are swayed by politics instead of the agenda to save lives.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"25% of people in England wear masks compared to 70%+ in Europe and elsewhere.

Says a lot about our attitude doesn't it?

They'll be compulsory by the end of next week so better get some in! If it becomes compulsory then say good bye to the high street ,say goodbye to god knows how many jobs in the high street

Why?...wear a mask, high street saved...simples

But that’s fine, no mask no entry

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By *luebell888Woman over a year ago

Glasgowish

I tend to wear a scarf to cover my nose and mouth.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple over a year ago

North west ish

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

And what about the tens of thousands who have been sick of covid or had some symptoms, did they need a test to know they were sick ( of something)?

Certainly not. They felt sick and / or had symptoms without a test.

All the test does is: confirm whether it is covid or not. so why tell people to go and get a test even if they show no signs?"

They may have had it and showed no signs, not one like me.

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By *elshsunsWoman over a year ago

Flintshire

Don’t wear one and don’t want one . It’s enough I have to wear one in work

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"25% of people in England wear masks compared to 70%+ in Europe and elsewhere.

Says a lot about our attitude doesn't it?

They'll be compulsory by the end of next week so better get some in! If it becomes compulsory then say good bye to the high street ,say goodbye to god knows how many jobs in the high street

Why?...wear a mask, high street saved...simples

But that’s fine, no mask no entry

Yeah it should work in most places. Pubs, gyms and restaurants will have a hard time with that though. People are already getting violent in pubs.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"25% of people in England wear masks compared to 70%+ in Europe and elsewhere.

Says a lot about our attitude doesn't it?

They'll be compulsory by the end of next week so better get some in! If it becomes compulsory then say good bye to the high street ,say goodbye to god knows how many jobs in the high street

Why?...wear a mask, high street saved...simples"

While I agree with wearing masks in shops....the high st has been dying for long before covid. Remember woolies?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"25% of people in England wear masks compared to 70%+ in Europe and elsewhere.

Says a lot about our attitude doesn't it?

They'll be compulsory by the end of next week so better get some in! If it becomes compulsory then say good bye to the high street ,say goodbye to god knows how many jobs in the high street

Why?...wear a mask, high street saved...simples

But that’s fine, no mask no entry

Yeah it should work in most places. Pubs, gyms and restaurants will have a hard time with that though. People are already getting violent in pubs."

Pubs! People always lose it if they've d*unk too much. ...then try getting too much drink with a mask on ffs

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"25% of people in England wear masks compared to 70%+ in Europe and elsewhere.

Says a lot about our attitude doesn't it?

They'll be compulsory by the end of next week so better get some in! If it becomes compulsory then say good bye to the high street ,say goodbye to god knows how many jobs in the high street

Why?...wear a mask, high street saved...simples

But that’s fine, no mask no entry

Yeah it should work in most places. Pubs, gyms and restaurants will have a hard time with that though. People are already getting violent in pubs."

“.... Pubs, gyms and restaurants...”

I doubt masks will be made mandatory in places where people have to eat or drink. I think the emphasis will be in shops. We just have to wait and see what announcement is made, if any.

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled. Its fairly obvious its airborne. It begs the question why would you trust any advice from them"

“...... Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled....”

That is possibly true.

Or it could also be that they are just treading cautiously in announcing that it is airborne. They might want to wait till they have done enough tests to prove that that is the case.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled. Its fairly obvious its airborne. It begs the question why would you trust any advice from them

“...... Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled....”

That is possibly true.

Or it could also be that they are just treading cautiously in announcing that it is airborne. They might want to wait till they have done enough tests to prove that that is the case. "

Its quite simple really very small particules like covid 19 are picked up by moving air and can travel massive distances if the humidty is high then they will survive a long time. Lower humidty and they will desicate rapidly and die. This is not rocket science and has been known for a very long time

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled. Its fairly obvious its airborne. It begs the question why would you trust any advice from them

“...... Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled....”

That is possibly true.

Or it could also be that they are just treading cautiously in announcing that it is airborne. They might want to wait till they have done enough tests to prove that that is the case.

But unless they confirm this as fact rules will dictate that it's not airborne. It depends on the density of the viral bacteria.

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By *RSTCouple over a year ago

S. Northants

Masks are only any good if worn properly. Otherwise, they are useless.

If your nose out, pointless.

If you pull it forward to scratch your chin, pointless

Any gaps between face and mask, pointless.

So far those 3 rules have summed up everyone I've seen wearing them, with very few exceptions.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Masks are only any good if worn properly. Otherwise, they are useless.

If your nose out, pointless.

If you pull it forward to scratch your chin, pointless

Any gaps between face and mask, pointless.

So far those 3 rules have summed up everyone I've seen wearing them, with very few exceptions.

But even those who wear one like you said....they are less likely to infect someone..as a person not wearing any covering at all.

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By *xfordshireCoupleMFCouple over a year ago

Nr. Oxford

Am I (mrs) the only one that struggles wearing a mask? I get claustrophobic and start to panic. Heart rate goes crazy and I have to remove it before I go into a anxiety attack. If masks become compulsory I will of course respect that and just limit my time outside to only food shopping which I will try and do as quick as I can.

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By *RSTCouple over a year ago

S. Northants

"Masks are only any good if worn properly. Otherwise, they are useless.

If your nose out, pointless.

If you pull it forward to scratch your chin, pointless

Any gaps between face and mask, pointless.

So far those 3 rules have summed up everyone I've seen wearing them, with very few exceptions.

But even those who wear one like you said....they are less likely to infect someone..as a person not wearing any covering at all."

How? It's still spreading the virus, just not in the way they would without a mask. Instead of spreading it to those ahead of you, it's deflecting to those behind through the sides of the mask. To work the masks have to be airtight to the face.

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled. Its fairly obvious its airborne. It begs the question why would you trust any advice from them

“...... Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled....”

That is possibly true.

Or it could also be that they are just treading cautiously in announcing that it is airborne. They might want to wait till they have done enough tests to prove that that is the case.

I understand your point

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have struggled when I've worn a mask, firstly it makes my glasses steam up, I've tried various ways to deal with that but nothing works. Also i have very bad asthma and wearing a mask makes it very difficult for me to breath, i usually panic due to the lack of oxygen and also it makes me cough more, i already cough a lot due to my asthma.

It means people keep far away from me anyway

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"Masks are only any good if worn properly. Otherwise, they are useless.

If your nose out, pointless.

If you pull it forward to scratch your chin, pointless

Any gaps between face and mask, pointless.

So far those 3 rules have summed up everyone I've seen wearing them, with very few exceptions.

The same argument could be made for some of the other measures that are being taken control the virus.

Let’s taking hand washing for example. Does everyone follow the precise method of doing so i.e washing in between fingers etc.? Does everyone actually sing happy birthday twice and wash their hands for 20 secs everytime?? I doubt it. And would you say hand washing is useless or pointless as a result of that? I think not. Because even if someone washes their hands for only 10 secs ( instead of 20 secs) it’s still better than not washing your hands at all.

Same applies to masks, even if it not worn properly such that it only gives 10% protection, then a 10% protection is still better than not wearing any mask at all.

We should not expect any of these measures to be adhered to 100%.

Any measure / protection is still better than not having any at all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Masks are only any good if worn properly. Otherwise, they are useless.

If your nose out, pointless.

If you pull it forward to scratch your chin, pointless

Any gaps between face and mask, pointless.

So far those 3 rules have summed up everyone I've seen wearing them, with very few exceptions.

But even those who wear one like you said....they are less likely to infect someone..as a person not wearing any covering at all.

A FFP3 or FFP3 mask needs to be fitted tight to protect yourself. A FFP3 will stop 99% of aerosolated air from getting through to you...FFP2 will stop 95%.

But any face covering will give a degree of protection to others around you. As someone has said...its not rocket science is it?

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By *itty9899Man over a year ago

Craggy Island

Nope, mask are only stop people wearing from spreading it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Am I (mrs) the only one that struggles wearing a mask? I get claustrophobic and start to panic. Heart rate goes crazy and I have to remove it before I go into a anxiety attack. If masks become compulsory I will of course respect that and just limit my time outside to only food shopping which I will try and do as quick as I can."

I've been wearing one in the house to try and get used to it. Knowing I can take it off helps. Time is getting longer and getting more used to it.

Finding a comfy one helps too. The pound shops have some stretchy ones that feel more 'natural'.

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"Nope, mask are only stop people wearing from spreading it."

And if everyone wears one, it stops everyone from spreading it.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Haven’t got one as good as useless unless you have the approved ones also consider that they de humanise you "

Chemists sell them. Amazon sell them. Just an excuse.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Anyone with half a brain cell knows this is a financial decision. Make masks mandatory in shops, so the Coronaphobic get back out and spend money in them.

If Boris thinks England is copy of the CCP China, he's in for a rude awakening.and will backfire.

Oh,and It's bars Saturday again week 2,mask wearing 0% is he going to shut the bars down, No thought not.

It's my health and I'm responsible. My community and I contribute to it. Naff all to do with Boris any more.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up."

It's not about You though. It's about the people you pass it on to. Who may not be as lucky as you. It's not all about you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

It's not about You though. It's about the people you pass it on to. Who may not be as lucky as you. It's not all about you. "

x 1000

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So do you also bring your mask with you when you go out? They are especially useful in enclosed spaces like shops and transport

Yes

Feels weird not wearing one in shops.

You can't get on public transport in my area, without one. "

So that's all of England then. Other countries have their own laws

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"The message for months was there no medical evidence showing benefit in wearing a mask so a bit confused by the current speculation. Mixed messages I feel ?"

Maybe. But so what. Messages change over time.

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS over a year ago

Blackpool

The gov can't use the argument science has changed droplets are flying all over the place, mandatory masks in shops, and at the same time turn a blind eye to pubs and bars, it doesn't fly, any defense lawyer would be able to overturn any fines. They want the best of both worlds, the nite time economy and all the day shoppers they have scared shitless into staying home over the last 3 months.

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By *xycpl699Couple over a year ago

kilmarnock

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Only use them if going into a shop or somewhere..to be honest Iv not been anywhere..but being a glasses wearer it’s a toss up between them steaming up every time I breathe or taking the glasses off and not being able to see what I’m buying...

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By *cloversCouple over a year ago

Hull

"Only use them if going into a shop or somewhere..to be honest Iv not been anywhere..but being a glasses wearer it’s a toss up between them steaming up every time I breathe or taking the glasses off and not being able to see what I’m buying..."

Before you put the mask on & go out clean your specs with shaving foam!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have masks and hand sanitser dotted about everywhere. My car, handbag, house. It's just become the norm for me now

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"I have masks and hand sanitser dotted about everywhere. My car, handbag, house. It's just become the norm for me now "

Me too

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By *sGivesWoodWoman over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

I don't have any masks, just my keys.

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By *oxy_minxWoman over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I feel for poorer families of say 4! How will they burden the cost?

I know you can wear face coverings but what are they exactly? I didn't even own a scarf before all of this happened that I could have used.

I now have a few washable facemasks to be used with filters, and they were a very reasonable cost, if people want to look at the stockingshq website

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By *inky_CarpenterMan over a year ago

Portsmouth

"So do you also bring your mask with you when you go out? They are especially useful in enclosed spaces like shops and transport

Totally! It's the responsible thing to do. CDC study last week showed that in households where one person is infected, simple mask and handwashing protocols can reduce transmission rates by over 70%

It's estimated that if everybody wore simple cloth masks and gloves in public, transmission could be reduced by about 93%.

Non medical masks offer the user some protection, but their main purpose is to limit spread by asymptomatic people.

Remember, you can be infected and contagious for up to 2 weeks before showing symptoms.

Personally I wear an n95 in public places for protection against microdroplets. Unlike a simple cold or flu, that can only be spread by macro droplets, (think cough or sneeze....) Micro droplets are exhaled while talking or breathing heavily. There is now an almost irritable body of evidence showing that Covid can be transmitted that way, and that these particles can remain airborne and infectious for up to 3 days in poorly ventilated areas.

Even if you don't wear one to protect yourself, be unselfish and wear one to respect and protect everybody else!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Before you put the mask on & go out clean your specs with shaving foam!

Thanks for the tip

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The gov can't use the argument science has changed droplets are flying all over the place, mandatory masks in shops, and at the same time turn a blind eye to pubs and bars, it doesn't fly, any defense lawyer would be able to overturn any fines. They want the best of both worlds, the nite time economy and all the day shoppers they have scared shitless into staying home over the last 3 months. "

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By *candiumWoman over a year ago

oban

I'm in Scotland so I had to wear one this week for shopping. Made me so ill I couldn't finish my shopping. I'll have to get someone else to do my shopping now.

And shaving foam on your glasses to stop fogging wrecks your glasses.

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By *lex46TV/TS over a year ago

Near Wells

I'm peed of with the queuing and the lack of common sense in some shops so I try to avoid if I can.

Having to wear a mask to go into a shop will push me away further.

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By *oi_LucyCouple over a year ago

Barbados

"So do you also bring your mask with you when you go out? They are especially useful in enclosed spaces like shops and transport

yes.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"12 weeks after the start of this crap, now wear a mask I can't stop laughing . It's like someone saying let's see what we can make them do now. Next week it will be holding your breath if you pass on the stairs. "

Suggesting masks after all this time is like suggesting condoms at the 12 week scan..lol

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By *lex46TV/TS over a year ago

Near Wells

Suggesting masks after all this time is like suggesting condoms at the 12 week scan..lol"

Or at the clinic

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By *cloversCouple over a year ago

Hull

"I'm in Scotland so I had to wear one this week for shopping. Made me so ill I couldn't finish my shopping. I'll have to get someone else to do my shopping now.

And shaving foam on your glasses to stop fogging wrecks your glasses."

Haven't wrecked my reactolites yet? 4 months in & wearing full PPE daily

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

Suggesting masks after all this time is like suggesting condoms at the 12 week scan..lol"

"....Suggesting masks after all this time is like suggesting condoms at the 12 week scan..lol..."

True Lol

Anyway better late than never.

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

No, I don't take a mask out with me as I think they are next to useless in the majority of situations.

I only take it if I need to go on public transport.

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By *ornLordMan over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

I cannot believe the rubbish that some post on here. If you want to see a cross-section of society’s thickest, Fabs seems to be as good a place as the Daily Fail comments.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

And what about the tens of thousands who have been sick of covid or had some symptoms, did they need a test to know they were sick ( of something)?

Certainly not. They felt sick and / or had symptoms without a test.

All the test does is: confirm whether it is covid or not. so why tell people to go and get a test even if they show no signs?"

Because you can have the virus but be unaware of it (asymptomatic) you can pass it onto someone else, that person may show symptoms or be asymptomatic. It's about reducing and preventing spread.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Let's just imagine a school or housing estate where the road has had a speed limit of 30 mph for the last 30 years. Some bright spark has found out that by reducing the speed limit to 20 mph lives be saved in the event of an RTA. Doesn't seem a bad idea does it?

Now let's imagine a virus spread by respiratory aerosols. For months we've been advised to wear face coverings but have also been told you don't have to because the evidence is mkxed. Now there is better evidence that suggests face coverings reduce the spread of the virus and thus saves lives and so the rules have changed to reflect the new information. Doesn't seem such a bad idea really does it?

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By *amaraBeaverbankWoman over a year ago

Benidorm Spain

What a bunch of spoiled, entitled and selfish people who are moaning about masks.

We don’t know if they help, don’t help, make things worse etc for certain but I saw a post from a friend of a friend on Facebook a few nights ago. She put it brilliantly

She (like we all do) hates wearing a mask. It ruins our make up, she’s back on inhalers and even though this means she doesn’t have to wear a mask, said this... we wear shoes that ruin our feet, give us blisters etc, just cos they look cute, so wearing a mask for the short duration we’re in shops isn’t gonna be nearly as back. If wearing the mask makes the vulnerable feel safer and have less anxiety then why be a dick by making a fuss about not wearing it

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By *moothman2000Man over a year ago

Leicestershire

I see Donald Trump has finally started wearing a facemask in public.

Wonder if he'd do the world a favour and consider a ballgag....

...permanantly....

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By *moothman2000Man over a year ago

Leicestershire

"What a bunch of spoiled, entitled and selfish people who are moaning about masks.

We don’t know if they help, don’t help, make things worse etc for certain but I saw a post from a friend of a friend on Facebook a few nights ago. She put it brilliantly

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

There's some mixed evidence on them but I'd like to protect others if I have an infection and don't know about it. I assume there's next to no protection for me, which is why some people may not be rushing to wear them.

As they are small and light, it's easy to have with you always.

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By *amaraBeaverbankWoman over a year ago

Benidorm Spain

"There's some mixed evidence on them but I'd like to protect others if I have an infection and don't know about it. I assume there's next to no protection for me, which is why some people may not be rushing to wear them.

As they are small and light, it's easy to have with you always. "

I’ve got a few in different styles to match what I’m wearing. Use as an accessory if it makes us feel better, cos it’s not gonna be forever (I hope!)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There's a really interesting article in the new scientist regarding face covering

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2240288-do-face-masks-work-against-the-coronavirus-and-should-you-wear-one/

It would appear the concensus would be that they may offer a small benefit however the evidence is inconclusive.

My issue with the mandatory use of face covering is that while there maybe a small benefit if used properly there may actually be a danger that the provide over confidence that you may not catch it and a false sense of security, which may lead too poor hand hygiene and/or people not social distancing when they can, resulting in an overall reduced benefit? Especially if you add into the fact so many people don't wear them properly i.e not covering the nose, or constantly touching adjusting them

Personally I don't use public transport and I'm yet to experiance a time I've bee unable to keep my distance when out and about. But I had to wear them for 8 hour a day during the start of the outbreak as part of my job and it was a very unpleasent experiance, the paper ones were better but they are only effective for 8 mins.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So do you also bring your mask with you when you go out? They are especially useful in enclosed spaces like shops and transport

Totally! It's the responsible thing to do. CDC study last week showed that in households where one person is infected, simple mask and handwashing protocols can reduce transmission rates by over 70%

It's estimated that if everybody wore simple cloth masks and gloves in public, transmission could be reduced by about 93%.

Non medical masks offer the user some protection, but their main purpose is to limit spread by asymptomatic people.

Remember, you can be infected and contagious for up to 2 weeks before showing symptoms.

Even if you don't wear one to protect yourself, be unselfish and wear one to respect and protect everybody else!"

Do you have the link to that study would be interested to read.

Also from what I've read the use of gloves in public make no difference what so ever and possible makes things worse as people stop washing and sanitising hands.

Also do you use an NEW n95 every day?

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By *arracksCouple over a year ago

Deal

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

Watch someone die of it & then come back to us & tell us how that felt? "

I even got a private message from the first quoted, to let me know how stupid I am to be worrying about the virus...walk a day in our shoes

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By *arracksCouple over a year ago

Deal

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

It's not about You though. It's about the people you pass it on to. Who may not be as lucky as you. It's not all about you. "

Exactly that, your friends, your family and your colleagues may not be so lucky, it's the arbitrary nature of the virus that means we must all protect each other...

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By *ake_holeMan over a year ago

London

It means I can laugh at comedy podcasts on the tube without looking mental

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By *abs..Woman over a year ago

I have one with me at all times.

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By *ty31Man over a year ago

NW London

If you are in an enclosed space and cannot maintain a safe distance (such as on the London Underground), then yes a face covering (the cheap fabric ones lots of people are wearing are not approved PPE) will have some benefit.

However at other times (walking down the street for example) the benefit is negliable if not sometimes detrimental (wearing a face covering can give a false sense of security).

My criticism is that the government and advisors are running out of ideas and resort to copying what other countries are doing (effective or not) and throwing every thing at the wall just to look like they are doing something. I think this is leading to an air of hysteria and paranoia amongst people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yep I wear one on public transport but shocking how many are not. Had my first proper haircut yesterday. No PPE at all ,

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By *cloversCouple over a year ago

Hull

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

Watch someone die of it & then come back to us & tell us how that felt?

I even got a private message from the first quoted, to let me know how stupid I am to be worrying about the virus...walk a day in our shoes

I dont even know what to say about that sadly.

I truly think most people don't grasp how different this virus is because all it has done has made inconveniences in their life - it hasn't shattered their life. Yet.

I will continue to walk in our shoes for as long as I can beside you. Take care & keep safe

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS over a year ago

Blackpool

Apart from in hospitals and dentists etc. Masks are nothing more than a fearmongering visual prop, if gov go ahead with the shop thing, it's nothing more than a head fake because they can't get folks back out to the shops after scaring everyone shitless for the last 3 months, nothing to do with the virus, I wonder if they will force them in pubs and bars which are more crowded than shops. No thought not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let's just imagine a school or housing estate where the road has had a speed limit of 30 mph for the last 30 years. Some bright spark has found out that by reducing the speed limit to 20 mph lives be saved in the event of an RTA. Doesn't seem a bad idea does it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Apart from in hospitals and dentists etc. Masks are nothing more than a fearmongering visual prop, if gov go ahead with the shop thing, it's nothing more than a head fake because they can't get folks back out to the shops after scaring everyone shitless for the last 3 months, nothing to do with the virus, I wonder if they will force them in pubs and bars which are more crowded than shops. No thought not. "

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

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By *arracksCouple over a year ago

Deal

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up.

Watch someone die of it & then come back to us & tell us how that felt?

I even got a private message from the first quoted, to let me know how stupid I am to be worrying about the virus...walk a day in our shoes

I dont even know what to say about that sadly.

I truly think most people don't grasp how different this virus is because all it has done has made inconveniences in their life - it hasn't shattered their life. Yet.

I will continue to walk in our shoes for as long as I can beside you. Take care & keep safe

Thank you and the same to you both.x

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By *plpxp2Couple over a year ago

Middlesbrough

If the risk is so high then there needs to be clear guidance and a consistent message. We may have to wear masks on a 10 minute visit to a shop as the risk is so high, but then can sit in a pub / restaurant for hours without one and this is where the message become ambiguous. We need one on a train and hospitals, but not in the gym where breathing those pesky aerosols out is turbocharged.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Carry a couple....never really needed to use....

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

"If the risk is so high then there needs to be clear guidance and a consistent message. We may have to wear masks on a 10 minute visit to a shop as the risk is so high, but then can sit in a pub / restaurant for hours without one and this is where the message become ambiguous. We need one on a train and hospitals, but not in the gym where breathing those pesky aerosols out is turbocharged.

"
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Exactly what I was thinking

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I get your frustration on this...but wearing one in a shop is a step in the right direction. A gym or a pub/restaurant is a preference to visit...plus it would be neigh impossible to wear on in a pub/restaurant.

But food shopping is a essential for quite a few people as they can live without gyms ..pubs and restaurants. But not their food.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting.

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By *ixenhixCouple over a year ago

colchester

"The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled. Its fairly obvious its airborne. It begs the question why would you trust any advice from them

“...... Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled....”

That is possibly true.

Or it could also be that they are just treading cautiously in announcing that it is airborne. They might want to wait till they have done enough tests to prove that that is the case.

So you will be happy with the next advice to keep all windows and doors shut at all times even within your own home, including the car, do not have air conditrioning on, all outdoor activities will again have to be curtailed as it will not be safe, 1 metre + social distancing will not be adequate let alone 2 meteres. If th emask is such good protection why hare we not advised year upon year to wear them during the winter cold and flu epidemics to protect ourselves the old and infirm. People die of more airbourne viruses than just Covid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The WHO are under extreme pressure from international scientists to admit the virus is a lot more airborne than we were led to believe, hence the increased calls for masks

Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled. Its fairly obvious its airborne. It begs the question why would you trust any advice from them

“...... Either they are totally incompetent or they have deliberately misled....”

That is possibly true.

Or it could also be that they are just treading cautiously in announcing that it is airborne. They might want to wait till they have done enough tests to prove that that is the case.

Why do Dentists, Surgeons and 100s of millions of people wear them then??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting. "

Some people are claiming they don’t work? So , what is the point in wearing them then?

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By *ixenhixCouple over a year ago

colchester

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting.

Some people are claiming they don’t work? So , what is the point in wearing them then? "

Because the government, media and the science have scared everybody to death and now are experiencing Covid related agrophobia and are desperate to get people back to work and onto the high street. So claming they work will offer a comfort blanket to those too scared to leave home.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I bought some nice three layer masks from a lady locally who is making them as a but if a fashion accessory. They are washable at 60 degrees and look quite decent. I have one with me whenever I’m going to enclosed space. Last time I wore one I was still very much in an extremely small minority but that minority had grown since the previous occasions I was shopping. They only really become effective if the vast majority are wearing them. I’m doing it at the moment as a sign of respect for other and providing an example of the behaviour I would like to see.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's pretty clear that the whole mask vs no mask thing is just another example of things that polarise the population - and you can draw some parallels in their opinions on current affairs:

The people who don't wear masks because they don't take this seriously are generally the same that voted to leave the EU; They're also often the 'all lives matter' people, and the ones who give it all the 'free speech' and 'snowflake' stuff; They're the same people who think Tommy Robinson is a walking legend and 'halal meat is basically animal cruelty', but they still eat meat. And don't get them started on vegan sausage rolls that don't contain actual sausage. 'It's a disc race!'

There are crossovers though. The people who fear Bill and Melinda Gates / 5G / cashless society etc appear to be on both sides of the political spectrum.

It's quite funny watching the left and right fight, until they find some conspiracy theory to agree on. At least we can all live in peace agreeing that the Illuminati and New World Order are seeking to control us...(?!)

Even LinkedIn is starting to look like this. Look at what humans did with all this self professed 'intelligence'. All the other species on the planet are probably pissing themselves at us!

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS over a year ago

Blackpool

Govie has just cleared matter up on Marr. England will NOT be applying CCP tactics regarding masks in shops. Which is good to hear, basically if you feel the fearmongering media have done one over on you this last 3 months then wear a damn mask,if you feel these "so called" experts have got an ass full of splinters from the fence don't wear a mask.

I see today that the Communist socialist labour party are calling for mandatory masking, imagine my supprise.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting.

Some people are claiming they don’t work? So , what is the point in wearing them then?

But surgeons and dentists have been wearing them for years?

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By *allySlinkyWoman over a year ago

Leeds

"Govie has just cleared matter up on Marr. England will NOT be applying CCP tactics regarding masks in shops. Which is good to hear "

So why is it mandatory to wear one on public transport and in a hospital ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well to all you anti mask wearers.

Gove was interviewed this morning and when asked if they should be worn...he said the government will encourage the wearing in shops. But not make it a requirement to enter a shop...in his view.

So they are sitting on the bloody fence again...good news for all of you who think wearing a mask in a shop will kill you

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS over a year ago

Blackpool

It's not sitting on the fence, it's called letting folks decide for themselves.

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By *allySlinkyWoman over a year ago

Leeds

In a pandemic people shouldn't be left to decide for themselves. They should have clear guidance from the government which is advised by scientific experts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not sitting on the fence, it's called letting folks decide for themselves. "

So some people dont like to wear a seatbelt....but the stats show it cuts down on fatalities and is law.

We need a government that need to govern but sadly we havent got one.

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By *all me FlikWoman over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

"It's not sitting on the fence, it's called letting folks decide for themselves.

So some people dont like to wear a seatbelt....but the stats show it cuts down on fatalities and is law.

We need a government that need to govern but sadly we havent got one."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not sitting on the fence, it's called letting folks decide for themselves.

So some people dont like to wear a seatbelt....but the stats show it cuts down on fatalities and is law.

We need a government that need to govern but sadly we havent got one.

As some has said...its already happened on transport and in hospitals. What about civil liberties there?

Common sense seems a rare commodity though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not sitting on the fence, it's called letting folks decide for themselves. "

What? Did you think lockdown would have worked if the government hadn’t made it a legal requirement ?

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By *all me FlikWoman over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

"It's not sitting on the fence, it's called letting folks decide for themselves.

So some people dont like to wear a seatbelt....but the stats show it cuts down on fatalities and is law.

We need a government that need to govern but sadly we havent got one.

As some has said...its already happened on transport and in hospitals. What about civil liberties there?

Common sense seems a rare commodity though."

you're right there

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

Imagine a human that after all this time still doesn't understand asymptomatic"

Nobnody is that stupid are they?

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By *moothman2000Man over a year ago

Leicestershire

Civil liberties, human rights and GDPR were never written with a pandemic in mind.

No point in demanding the adherance to a set of rules that work against us at the moment.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting.

Some people are claiming they don’t work? So , what is the point in wearing them then?

Excatly this, even the labour MP this morning said that if the give people the confidence to go out to the shops etc then they would be all for them, nothing said about whether they are effective to stop the spread!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting.

Some people are claiming they don’t work? So , what is the point in wearing them then?

But that does not mean they have no effect does it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *ood at oralMan over a year ago

kirkcaldy

Supermarkets not enforcing the mask issue all saying its customers choice if they want to wear one and its the same with there staff

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It's not sitting on the fence, it's called letting folks decide for themselves.

So some people dont like to wear a seatbelt....but the stats show it cuts down on fatalities and is law.

We need a government that need to govern but sadly we havent got one.

I would agree with you but if they made it mandatory you will have a section of the public up in Arms about their civil liberties which of course is more important than passing on a virus that could kill someone. shop owners do of course have the right to not serve people if they so wish."
That is right, you cant leave this desicion up to the people, as many are not responsible hence why the government should make it mandatory

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Imagine a virus so deadly you have to be tested to know if you even have it.

You couldn't make it up,wake up."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well to all you anti mask wearers.

Gove was interviewed this morning and when asked if they should be worn...he said the government will encourage the wearing in shops. But not make it a requirement to enter a shop...in his view.

So they are sitting on the bloody fence again...good news for all of you who think wearing a mask in a shop will kill you

Have to agree, Boris and co have consistently made choices which focus any blame for failure back onto the public for not heeding advice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Haven’t got one as good as useless unless you have the approved ones also consider that they de humanise you and being hooked up to a ventilator doesn't!!!!Stopped using ventilators now, they just kill you more skowly. They got that wrong as well."

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By *ood at oralMan over a year ago

kirkcaldy

It's mandatory to wear a mask in shops since Friday in Scotland but the head of the federation of grocers said there members won't enforce it and they are leaving the choice up to both customers and staff if they want or don't want to wear a mask

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don’t wear one and don’t want one . It’s enough I have to wear one in work

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

I think the opposition to wearing a mask isn't about wearing a mask.

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By *edGrayCouple over a year ago

Swindon

The misses will only have sex with me if I wear a mask....not sure if it's for covid-19 reasons though!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting.

Some people are claiming they don’t work? So , what is the point in wearing them then?

But that does not mean they have no effect does it?"

Well the evidence on face coverings in general is inconclusive, and even if they provide a small benefit does this overcome the negative impact of over confidence of wearing them, where people stop social distancing and stop practicing good hand hygine. Walk around and see how many people who are wearing mask are constantly adjusting them or not wearing them properly, meaning that if they're contagious thier spreading it onto any surface the come onto.

For me still the best way to stop any spread is keep washing hands and keep a good disantce. I have yet to be in a position where I haven't been able to do this yet.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting.

Some people are claiming they don’t work? So , what is the point in wearing them then?

But that does not mean they have no effect does it?

For me still the best way to stop any spread is keep washing hands and keep a good disantce. I have yet to be in a position where I haven't been able to do this yet. "

About people not wearing them correctly.

Any covering is better then nothing.

About keeping a safe distance.

Now the shops have been allowed to reduce to 1 metre instead of two, which means 4 x the amount of people allowed in.

I think you will find distancing will become harder and harder...hence why we were told to mitigate this with a face mask. But the problem is if you leave it to the public...it wont happen.

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By *ancs_tgirl_38TV/TS over a year ago

Blackpool

I take it any of the shop manditory maskupers, haven't and won't be going to any bars and restaurants then, as mask wearing in these 1 meter places is 0%, no thought not,

Any pro mask moaner who has and plans too is complete hypocrite.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont drink and I'm the best cook I know.

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By *eavy-Metal-CoupleCouple over a year ago

Liverpool

With me I do wear a mask but for the reasons stated. Also due to social media and the main stream media the have caused more of a panic then there should of been which in turn caused a snowball effect when now up to 70% are still fearful of going out. My way of thinking was if I got it then so be it but was more scared in passing it on to certain people eg my partner who diabetic which this can effect her worse on a whole. What is needed now is common sense which sadly our leaders in government and the public are severely lacking with what they trying to do to stop us from falling into a other recession.

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting.

Some people are claiming they don’t work? So , what is the point in wearing them then?

But that does not mean they have no effect does it?

For me still the best way to stop any spread is keep washing hands and keep a good disantce. I have yet to be in a position where I haven't been able to do this yet.

About people not wearing them correctly.

Any covering is better then nothing.

About keeping a safe distance.

Now the shops have been allowed to reduce to 1 metre instead of two, which means 4 x the amount of people allowed in.

I think you will find distancing will become harder and harder...hence why we were told to mitigate this with a face mask. But the problem is if you leave it to the public...it wont happen."

"...I think you will find distancing will become harder and harder...hence why we were told to mitigate this with a face mask. But the problem is if you leave it to the public...it wont happen..."

This

, and everything else you have said.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting.

Some people are claiming they don’t work? So , what is the point in wearing them then?

But that does not mean they have no effect does it?

For me still the best way to stop any spread is keep washing hands and keep a good disantce. I have yet to be in a position where I haven't been able to do this yet.

About people not wearing them correctly.

Any covering is better then nothing.

About keeping a safe distance.

Now the shops have been allowed to reduce to 1 metre instead of two, which means 4 x the amount of people allowed in.

I think you will find distancing will become harder and harder...hence why we were told to mitigate this with a face mask. But the problem is if you leave it to the public...it wont happen."

Actually no, if people don't wear them properly it's no just pointless but more likely to result in increased spread. Think about it, if your contagious and wear a mask you creating alittle contaminated spunge, everytime you touch it your transferring it to your hands then onto surfaces. Watch the guys being interviewed on the F1 today they touch their mask every 20seconds.

Also do you think most people use them then wash them straight away, no they put them in their hand bag or pocket for thier next use. Contaminating the items in the bags and pockets and making it more likey to spread.

I have no issue with thier use in certain setting such as hospitals and public transport which make sense, but in a shop especially supermarkets I don't see the sense, they are large generally well ventilated spaces where you only within 1m of someone for a very short period of time i.e seconds.

What the government should be getting on with rather than promote people wearing bit of flimsy material across their face is the rescheduling of surgeries and treatment for things such as cancer which have a significantly higher death rate and covid.

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting.

Some people are claiming they don’t work? So , what is the point in wearing them then?

But that does not mean they have no effect does it?

For me still the best way to stop any spread is keep washing hands and keep a good disantce. I have yet to be in a position where I haven't been able to do this yet.

About people not wearing them correctly.

Any covering is better then nothing.

About keeping a safe distance.

Now the shops have been allowed to reduce to 1 metre instead of two, which means 4 x the amount of people allowed in.

I think you will find distancing will become harder and harder...hence why we were told to mitigate this with a face mask. But the problem is if you leave it to the public...it wont happen.

"... if people don't wear them properly..."

But some people wear them properly, so you can't discount the idea of wearing masks just because some people don't wear them properly.

How about other measures like hand washing and social distancing?

Does everyone sing happy birthday twice and wash their hands for 20 secs every single time? Answer is 'No'. Some only wash their hands for 5 secs or less.

Does everyone keep the 1 or 2 metres social distance every single time? Again answer to that is No.

So by your logic we should scrap hand washing and social distancing too just because some people don't practice them properly. Every measure helps, it doesn't have to be 100% all the time. Even if that measure reduces the transmission by 30 %, it is still better than not doing anything at all.

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By *ilks123Man over a year ago

wf1

"Yes we always wear one in shops and enclosed spaces. The advice on these is about to change.

Any level of protection is better than nothing. "
exactly

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

Why do dentists & surgeons wear masks?

Because dentists are gaping straight down your throat and surgeons have just cut a hole in you? I would say, the risk of transmission of various diseases are much higher in that setting.

Some people are claiming they don’t work? So , what is the point in wearing them then?

But that does not mean they have no effect does it?

For me still the best way to stop any spread is keep washing hands and keep a good disantce. I have yet to be in a position where I haven't been able to do this yet.

About people not wearing them correctly.

Any covering is better then nothing.

About keeping a safe distance.

Now the shops have been allowed to reduce to 1 metre instead of two, which means 4 x the amount of people allowed in.

I think you will find distancing will become harder and harder...hence why we were told to mitigate this with a face mask. But the problem is if you leave it to the public...it wont happen.

Do you know what the precautionary principle is? Its relevant here. Wearing a mask in an enclosed public space is no damn hardship. There's strong evidence to indicate that mass wearing of masks will reduce transmission. It'd unfortunate that it's going to take govt action to get people to do the right thing.

Your argument is that masks aren't 100% effective so don't bother with them. I would like to point out that neither are seat belts or cancer treatments.

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By *i1971Man over a year ago

Cornwall

Although the thread has concentrated on masks, the wording generally used is face covering. That can be a scarf, traditional mask or even one of those material neck tubes (buff's?) So if it becomes mandatory there are alternatives.

For me, the best solution is still social distancing. Can't remember the last time I used public transport, thankfully I can go around and keep my distance. I refuse to go to shops at times when they're busy and won't be going to pubs/clubs/restaurants. Should I need the dentist, then I'll have to follow their rules at that time.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I have done a new thread we can continue on

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