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By *etsome OP Man
over a year ago
birmingham |
Apparently they will not be able to open until next year. If that is the case there won't be many left to reopen. Boris never mentioned that flattening the sombraro would destroy are cultural heritage |
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"You can go to the cinema but not a theatre, doesn't make sense."
All to do with live performing and social distancing in an enclosed space .
We have a very successful theatre here in Norwich and they have cancelled everything for the rest of the year , laid off 120 staff , and cancelled the pantomime their real money spinner . Real fears it will never reopen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You can go to the cinema but not a theatre, doesn't make sense."
You can sit next to someone on a plane for 4 hours but not next to someone in a theatre which is usually a larger space for around 2 hours.
Following the science eh. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You can go to the cinema but not a theatre, doesn't make sense.
All to do with live performing and social distancing in an enclosed space .
We have a very successful theatre here in Norwich and they have cancelled everything for the rest of the year , laid off 120 staff , and cancelled the pantomime their real money spinner . Real fears it will never reopen. "
its the ban on live performing i dont understand... if its because the performers cant social distance this could be worked around with them living together for a few months while the show is performing ... not ideal but for many i would think better than the whole industry going under and not too dissimilar to people in entertainment that work on cruise shops
there are also solo performers
if its about distancing the crowd how is this any different to a cinema? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You can go to the cinema but not a theatre, doesn't make sense.
You can sit next to someone on a plane for 4 hours but not next to someone in a theatre which is usually a larger space for around 2 hours.
Following the science eh."
Comments like this make me wonder if people are intentionally trying to play dumb?
Everything is going to reopen. It’s a question of when and how and slowly doing it.
They’re not saying a plane or a pub is safer than a theatre. There saying they are allowing flights and pubs first for a number of reasons.
They’re also not preventing anyone from getting the virus. They’re just trying to slow it down.
Theatre patrons tend to be old too, so I have a feeling that has something to do with it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You can go to the cinema but not a theatre, doesn't make sense.
You can sit next to someone on a plane for 4 hours but not next to someone in a theatre which is usually a larger space for around 2 hours.
Following the science eh.
Comments like this make me wonder if people are intentionally trying to play dumb?
Everything is going to reopen. It’s a question of when and how and slowly doing it.
They’re not saying a plane or a pub is safer than a theatre. There saying they are allowing flights and pubs first for a number of reasons.
They’re also not preventing anyone from getting the virus. They’re just trying to slow it down.
Theatre patrons tend to be old too, so I have a feeling that has something to do with it."
thats a completely wrong stereotype right there , ive been a regular theatre goer since i was a teenager
panto is my predominately aimed at families and kids
you dont close an industry because some of its clients are at risk , people at risk could choose not to go
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"I just don't understand why a pub is safer than a theatre. "
From some of the images from last night.. Walking into a combine harvester would be safer than walking into your local harvester... However, perhaps the theatre thing is to do with the number of people needed to put on a production, sound, light, stage crews, performers who will be singing projecting voices... Maybe that's part of it? |
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"You can go to the cinema but not a theatre, doesn't make sense.
You can sit next to someone on a plane for 4 hours but not next to someone in a theatre which is usually a larger space for around 2 hours.
Following the science eh.
Comments like this make me wonder if people are intentionally trying to play dumb?
Everything is going to reopen. It’s a question of when and how and slowly doing it.
They’re not saying a plane or a pub is safer than a theatre. There saying they are allowing flights and pubs first for a number of reasons.
They’re also not preventing anyone from getting the virus. They’re just trying to slow it down.
Theatre patrons tend to be old too, so I have a feeling that has something to do with it."
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
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"You can go to the cinema but not a theatre, doesn't make sense.
All to do with live performing and social distancing in an enclosed space .
We have a very successful theatre here in Norwich and they have cancelled everything for the rest of the year , laid off 120 staff , and cancelled the pantomime their real money spinner . Real fears it will never reopen. "
Pantos are make or break for theatres apparently. |
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Pantomime often props up a theatre for the year, most theatres that are not in the west end or big cities rely on panto.
Social distancing in theatre is difficult as backstage is often cramped.
If we open with social distancing enforced we will go out of business quicker than if we stay shut, we need to be over half full to break even, plus you have the backstage issue where no theatre has much room.
The theatre I run relies mainly on local dance schools, with 4 dressing rooms to get in often 100 kids, plus chaperones, whilst in fire regulations would not be possible to socially distance.
The worst part is not knowing, if we were told we can't open until next year at least we could plan!
Worrying times for all involved in the arts, I set up and invested heavily in my own theatre company, covid has fucked me right this year! |
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By *rego69Man
over a year ago
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Think its going to be a while.
The premiership football has started up without an audience and I wonder if the sort of testing regime they used could apply to a cast and crew of a production. Maybe then beam it live to an auditorium Aka cinema or on satellite tv to a paying audience.
Another option is a screen between audience and stage but that must raise questions re lighting and sound.
The biggest issue is financing this as social distancing the audience will cut the gate money taken.
Can’t wait to see the RSC live again and the new Les Mis production.
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also sanitisation of the theatre would be a logistical nightmare with all the fabric seats and carpets, especially the historical theatres as they don't want to damage it, same as churches are being cautious with chemicals, they can't exactly open all the doors and windows to create airflow |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s frustrating as a musician that I can now go pub and drink but can’t go and perform as someone says when you sing you project and could then project Covid over crowds.
Most places I go there is always a gap or distance from people.
For theatres and plays the same happens I know Lloyd Webber has said he been told to record people in studio then they mime oh joy
The entire music and entertainment will die and suffer lots venues only survive due to sales and even reduced admissions will impact.
Hope is sorted soon |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It’s frustrating as a musician that I can now go pub and drink but can’t go and perform as someone says when you sing you project and could then project Covid over crowds.
Most places I go there is always a gap or distance from people.
For theatres and plays the same happens I know Lloyd Webber has said he been told to record people in studio then they mime oh joy
The entire music and entertainment will die and suffer lots venues only survive due to sales and even reduced admissions will impact.
Hope is sorted soon"
i dont know how much they think people are projecting ... most of these places have mics and sound systems
comedians just speak , things like burlesque the sound all comes from a speaker
maybe this will become time for the rise of the mime artist  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You can go to the cinema but not a theatre, doesn't make sense.
You can sit next to someone on a plane for 4 hours but not next to someone in a theatre which is usually a larger space for around 2 hours.
Following the science eh.
Comments like this make me wonder if people are intentionally trying to play dumb?
Everything is going to reopen. It’s a question of when and how and slowly doing it.
They’re not saying a plane or a pub is safer than a theatre. There saying they are allowing flights and pubs first for a number of reasons.
They’re also not preventing anyone from getting the virus. They’re just trying to slow it down.
Theatre patrons tend to be old too, so I have a feeling that has something to do with it."
No I’m not dumb or deliberately acting dumb I’m just questioning the reasoning. I know madness.
Lots of posts on social media criticising the supporters of the arts, probably by people who have spent the lockdown binge watching box sets on Netflix and failing to see the relevance. |
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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago
Camarthen |
I have a friend who works in opera he was layed off weeks before lockdown and simply doesn't know when he'll work again. There are some who will never return to arts as have had no choice than find work elsewhere. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This is one industry that is going to suffer massively, such a shame. I read a week ago that some theatre's had already cancelled Christmas pantos. "
Oh no they haven't  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
i think i read yesterday that the music venues were looking at some sort of £50 million pound loan/help/bailout to see thing thru this.... when they gave weatherspoon £47 million to see them thru this..... |
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Performing Arts in this country have historically always been desperately underfunded - from the grass roots of arts education all the way through to the greatest institutions producing the finest performances in the world - not surprising that covid19 would change the attitudes of government and the public as to the importance of this sector.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have a friend who works in opera he was layed off weeks before lockdown and simply doesn't know when he'll work again. There are some who will never return to arts as have had no choice than find work elsewhere. "
problem is, im not sure how many jobs are out there, there are alot of people looking for work |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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".... and if by magic, almost as if they are listening ... HMG announce a £1.57 billion package to help 
Just announced so I guess more details to follow.."
Will hopefully save some historic theatres and venues, but I don't think it'll be enough to save them all. |
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".... and if by magic, almost as if they are listening ... HMG announce a £1.57 billion package to help
Just announced so I guess more details to follow..
Will hopefully save some historic theatres and venues, but I don't think it'll be enough to save them all. "
The package will help yes, but there are still difficult times ahead, and difficult decisions will still need to be made .
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"Surely people performing on stage is no different to 22 men playing football on a pitch?? "
In theatres it's a bit trickier...backstage is tight on space and you've got stagehands, stage managers, lighting, sound, flys, cast, band, wardrobe...social distancing just isn't possible, unlike an open pitch, empty stadium and spacious dressing rooms with wide corridors.
There's a lot less than 2m between the stage and the audience too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's interesting that they brought it forward, it wasn't going to be announced until Wednesday.
The pressure from the live music push this week made a huge difference I think."
I think it was my signature on the petition and they knew the game was up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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".... and if by magic, almost as if they are listening ... HMG announce a £1.57 billion package to help
Just announced so I guess more details to follow.."
Is that good news? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
Bigger than I thought which said it’s likely to be longer....
DCMS sec has been on tv this morning... hinted strongly that it may be unlikely there is going to be a pantomime season which means least end of the year
If that is what it’s going to be for them I think it’s going to be a long road for swinging clubs |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"It frustrating that the money is going to venue's only and there seems to be no help for theatrical businesses. "
As far as I am aware the money is going to go to the arts council, and they will decide who gets what from this fund..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Bigger than I thought which said it’s likely to be longer....
DCMS sec has been on tv this morning... hinted strongly that it may be unlikely there is going to be a pantomime season which means least end of the year
If that is what it’s going to be for them I think it’s going to be a long road for swinging clubs "
Nobody in the media has asked Rishi or his mates if such clubs will get a bail out I notice!! |
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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago
In my happy place |
Show runs are a week long or less outside of London.
It would mean cast and crew in one big bubble.
Its the singing that's an issue for performances.
It's awful for the venues and those affected.
Makes no sense. Audience could be masked as flights are longer! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Show runs are a week long or less outside of London.
It would mean cast and crew in one big bubble.
Its the singing that's an issue for performances.
It's awful for the venues and those affected.
Makes no sense. Audience could be masked as flights are longer! "
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