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over a year ago
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Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again  |
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"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again "
I'm no Trump fan, but I'm not sure why this is a story. The first job of govt is to protect its people. It was out there and has been known to alleviate symptoms for months and the US Administration bought it. Perhaps the story should be why it is other nations governments chose not to buy it when they had the opportunity to do so. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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bit of an underhand move.but then again why wasnt other countrys buying the stuff up.people moan wen he stands about and does nothing now he has pulled his finger out to get drugs for the u.s people still moan |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again
I'm no Trump fan, but I'm not sure why this is a story. The first job of govt is to protect its people. It was out there and has been known to alleviate symptoms for months and the US Administration bought it. Perhaps the story should be why it is other nations governments chose not to buy it when they had the opportunity to do so. "
Because remdesivir didn't have approval. It was still going through clinical trials.
Otherwise you have a situation like the uk govement who spent 16-20 million on useless corona tests and the initial outbreak.
Spending millions a on gamble when a huge chunk of population is unemployed sounds like political disaster to me.
This is global pandemic.... Trying to land lock your country in the hope the rest of the world will burn out the disease and that this one therapeutic will protect a nation.
Shows how bigoted trump is and he doesn't have the ability to assess the big picture.
Which is true with pretty much every geopolitical negotiation he is involved in.
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"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again "
Wasit made by Harpic  |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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Some other points to note
Remdesivir is made by Gilead an American pharma company.
Had they not supplied the US government with the allocation they wanted.
Im sure trump would have enforced/bullied them into supply through the war act.
Just like he did with gm making them agree to make ventilators.
Its also worth noting a 5 day course of the drug will cost American health insurance companies $2300.
Oh and by they way.... That's the discounted price.
I'm sure this a deal that was pushed on Gilead and they accept a lower price rather than be forced to supply through the war act.
(the America health system is fucking nuts but let's not derail the topic)
Do you think most nations could afford $2300 per patient per week?
The irony is these pills are probably going to be made in India or China where most drugs are made.
Take that kung flu... Trump is a fucking psychopath
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"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again
I'm no Trump fan, but I'm not sure why this is a story. The first job of govt is to protect its people. It was out there and has been known to alleviate symptoms for months and the US Administration bought it. Perhaps the story should be why it is other nations governments chose not to buy it when they had the opportunity to do so. "
Didnt he want to get the rights to.it and sell it as a profit? |
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"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again
I'm no Trump fan, but I'm not sure why this is a story. The first job of govt is to protect its people. It was out there and has been known to alleviate symptoms for months and the US Administration bought it. Perhaps the story should be why it is other nations governments chose not to buy it when they had the opportunity to do so.
Because remdesivir didn't have approval. It was still going through clinical trials.
Otherwise you have a situation like the uk govement who spent 16-20 million on useless corona tests and the initial outbreak.
Spending millions a on gamble when a huge chunk of population is unemployed sounds like political disaster to me.
This is global pandemic.... Trying to land lock your country in the hope the rest of the world will burn out the disease and that this one therapeutic will protect a nation.
Shows how bigoted trump is and he doesn't have the ability to assess the big picture.
Which is true with pretty much every geopolitical negotiation he is involved in.
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I'm sure he will put national intersts aside in our post Brexit talks. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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And what about our 'special relationship?"
Special Relationship. lol ? - Besides America just using us as an Aircraft carrier into Eastern Europe - Trump didn't actually know we were a Nuclear power until two weeks ago.
I feel very very special don't you?
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"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again
I'm no Trump fan, but I'm not sure why this is a story. The first job of govt is to protect its people. It was out there and has been known to alleviate symptoms for months and the US Administration bought it. Perhaps the story should be why it is other nations governments chose not to buy it when they had the opportunity to do so.
Because remdesivir didn't have approval. It was still going through clinical trials.
Otherwise you have a situation like the uk govement who spent 16-20 million on useless corona tests and the initial outbreak.
Spending millions a on gamble when a huge chunk of population is unemployed sounds like political disaster to me.
This is global pandemic.... Trying to land lock your country in the hope the rest of the world will burn out the disease and that this one therapeutic will protect a nation.
Shows how bigoted trump is and he doesn't have the ability to assess the big picture.
Which is true with pretty much every geopolitical negotiation he is involved in.
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Trump may be all the things you say and a lot more besides but in this specific news infotainment article I'm not sure what he's done that is so newsworthy.
If we / others wanted the drug, they were free to purchase at the market price, as is the case in a free market.
If they didn't want it because it was too expensive then that's their choice to make.
If we didn't want it because it was still not approved by NICE, then why is there even a discussion.
I agree trump is incredibly divisive.
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And what about our 'special relationship?
Special Relationship. lol ? - Besides America just using us as an Aircraft carrier into Eastern Europe - Trump didn't actually know we were a Nuclear power until two weeks ago.
I feel very very special don't you?
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People genuinely do believe they will treat us differently. |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
Leicester / London |
"Would we not do the same with similar circumstances...putting our own people first? "
To this and other posts with a similar narrative.
Do you still not understand how a virus spreads? Whilst you live through a pandemic?
You can't lock yourself in four walls and say let everyone catch it.
If trump was shrewd he understand the economy is us. Its people not named corporations, it the people inside them.
What's the use of a high share price if all the workers are dead?
And if Indias population of pharma workers is killed off. Who is going to make the drug. This is skilled work. They maybe paid peanuts but it's alot more skilled than packing parcels for Amazon in utah.
Why does "the donald" always look like he is squinting... Because he can't see more than 2 feet in front of his own ideas or basis |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again
I'm no Trump fan, but I'm not sure why this is a story. The first job of govt is to protect its people. It was out there and has been known to alleviate symptoms for months and the US Administration bought it. Perhaps the story should be why it is other nations governments chose not to buy it when they had the opportunity to do so.
Because remdesivir didn't have approval. It was still going through clinical trials.
Otherwise you have a situation like the uk govement who spent 16-20 million on useless corona tests and the initial outbreak.
Spending millions a on gamble when a huge chunk of population is unemployed sounds like political disaster to me.
This is global pandemic.... Trying to land lock your country in the hope the rest of the world will burn out the disease and that this one therapeutic will protect a nation.
Shows how bigoted trump is and he doesn't have the ability to assess the big picture.
Which is true with pretty much every geopolitical negotiation he is involved in.
Trump may be all the things you say and a lot more besides but in this specific news infotainment article I'm not sure what he's done that is so newsworthy.
If we / others wanted the drug, they were free to purchase at the market price, as is the case in a free market.
If they didn't want it because it was too expensive then that's their choice to make.
If we didn't want it because it was still not approved by NICE, then why is there even a discussion.
I agree trump is incredibly divisive.
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To find out what he hasn't done I suggested you read by the follow up post I added further context too.
Explaining the economics of the deal too |
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"Would we not do the same with similar circumstances...putting our own people first?
To this and other posts with a similar narrative.
Do you still not understand how a virus spreads? Whilst you live through a pandemic?
You can't lock yourself in four walls and say let everyone catch it.
If trump was shrewd he understand the economy is us. Its people not named corporations, it the people inside them.
What's the use of a high share price if all the workers are dead?
And if Indias population of pharma workers is killed off. Who is going to make the drug. This is skilled work. They maybe paid peanuts but it's alot more skilled than packing parcels for Amazon in utah.
Why does "the donald" always look like he is squinting... Because he can't see more than 2 feet in front of his own ideas or basis "
Money is his god. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again
I'm no Trump fan, but I'm not sure why this is a story. The first job of govt is to protect its people. It was out there and has been known to alleviate symptoms for months and the US Administration bought it. Perhaps the story should be why it is other nations governments chose not to buy it when they had the opportunity to do so.
Because remdesivir didn't have approval. It was still going through clinical trials.
Otherwise you have a situation like the uk govement who spent 16-20 million on useless corona tests and the initial outbreak.
Spending millions a on gamble when a huge chunk of population is unemployed sounds like political disaster to me.
This is global pandemic.... Trying to land lock your country in the hope the rest of the world will burn out the disease and that this one therapeutic will protect a nation.
Shows how bigoted trump is and he doesn't have the ability to assess the big picture.
Which is true with pretty much every geopolitical negotiation he is involved in.
Trump may be all the things you say and a lot more besides but in this specific news infotainment article I'm not sure what he's done that is so newsworthy.
If we / others wanted the drug, they were free to purchase at the market price, as is the case in a free market.
If they didn't want it because it was too expensive then that's their choice to make.
If we didn't want it because it was still not approved by NICE, then why is there even a discussion.
I agree trump is incredibly divisive.
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I take it you didn't bother to look at either of my links. It has been approved by NICE for patients who are eligible. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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It seems selfish of the US to do this but can you blame them,you should allways put your own people first.
I fear if they invented a vacine it would be a while till we could get it and be charged a fortune.
I hope it is not them that invents this |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"They’ve bought the drug that barely does anything at a high price , we’ve got plenty of the one that actually saves lives and is dirt cheap
I don’t think we’ve done bad out of this one "
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"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again "
Should the UK waken up and act more quickly then ? |
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"Did you think trump would do the world any favours
In fairness it is one of the few things he's honest about,he only cares about America"
Trump the psycho toddler does not care about anyone let alone a fkn country - the only person & wackjob ego - he cares about is - DERANGED TRUMP
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"Would we not do the same with similar circumstances...putting our own people first?
How much are they charging for it?
And what about our 'special relationship?"
The so called 'special relationship' is a creation of the British media from the early eighties.
If you ask an American about it you just get a confused blank look. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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The only special relationship I see is trump fucking Boris bareback in trade talks,on the first day Boris conceded on opening UK to shit dangerous US "food" producers
NHS to follow in next round
If you could call r@pe a special relationship that is
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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago
Longridge |
"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again "
The man is a joke, 50-100-250 thousand cases per week meaning they are going to need every single drop of it.
I just hope that the EU or UK get the vaccine first and use this as leverage.
The man is sick, buying up world supplies of medicine in order to cover up his incompetences.
If they controlled the virus over there, they would not need the amount of treatment they are going to need in 4 to 8 weeks and be enough to share.
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The only special relationship I see is trump fucking Boris bareback in trade talks. On the first day Boris conceded on opening UK to shit dangerous US "food" producers
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Anyone who has been to the US will tell you, the food is excellent and wholesome. Tasty chicken and tender beef. |
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over a year ago
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The only special relationship I see is trump fucking Boris bareback in trade talks. On the first day Boris conceded on opening UK to shit dangerous US "food" producers
Anyone who has been to the US will tell you, the food is excellent and wholesome. Tasty chicken and tender beef."
We’ve been several time and the food is lovely |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
UK studies have shown another drug, the steroid dexamethasone, reduces deaths by a third in the sickest patients, remdesivir is less significant.
He may well be on a bum steer anyway.  |
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Unless some new trials come out showing it’s brilliant, and it’d be difficult to see why the previous ones missed it, we’ve already got a better drug so even if supply is everywhere we really don’t need this drug
Studies should go on about the combination- but combinations don’t always work and can turn out worse so for now it’s dexamethasone only and allow the researchers to look at the combo |
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"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again
I'm no Trump fan, but I'm not sure why this is a story. The first job of govt is to protect its people. It was out there and has been known to alleviate symptoms for months and the US Administration bought it. Perhaps the story should be why it is other nations governments chose not to buy it when they had the opportunity to do so.
Because remdesivir didn't have approval. It was still going through clinical trials.
Otherwise you have a situation like the uk govement who spent 16-20 million on useless corona tests and the initial outbreak.
Spending millions a on gamble when a huge chunk of population is unemployed sounds like political disaster to me.
This is global pandemic.... Trying to land lock your country in the hope the rest of the world will burn out the disease and that this one therapeutic will protect a nation.
Shows how bigoted trump is and he doesn't have the ability to assess the big picture.
Which is true with pretty much every geopolitical negotiation he is involved in.
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Yeah it's like person who panic bought all the soap. He's sat at home with all the soap. Everyone else in the community can't wash their hands and virus transmission goes up as a result putting soap man in more danger. Where he would have been better sharing the soap out so everyone could wash their hands and reduce the spread.
I know this won't reduce the spread but it's a worldwide problem and countries should be sharing resources and helping each other out. |
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"Would we not do the same with similar circumstances...putting our own people first?
How much are they charging for it?
And what about our 'special relationship?
The so called 'special relationship' is a creation of the British media from the early eighties.
If you ask an American about it you just get a confused blank look."
And yet many people believe here think its true |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"Would we not do the same with similar circumstances...putting our own people first?
How much are they charging for it?
And what about our 'special relationship?
The so called 'special relationship' is a creation of the British media from the early eighties.
If you ask an American about it you just get a confused blank look.
And yet many people believe here think its true"
Do they i think Obama made it quiet clear there wasn't one when he tried to influence the brexit vote.The only special relationship was when maggie and regan were in power.i dont think many believe there was one after that. |
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"Some other points to note
Remdesivir is made by Gilead an American pharma company.
Had they not supplied the US government with the allocation they wanted.
Im sure trump would have enforced/bullied them into supply through the war act.
Just like he did with gm making them agree to make ventilators.
Its also worth noting a 5 day course of the drug will cost American health insurance companies $2300.
Oh and by they way.... That's the discounted price.
I'm sure this a deal that was pushed on Gilead and they accept a lower price rather than be forced to supply through the war act.
(the America health system is fucking nuts but let's not derail the topic)
Do you think most nations could afford $2300 per patient per week?
The irony is these pills are probably going to be made in India or China where most drugs are made.
Take that kung flu... Trump is a fucking psychopath
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This.
Plus, the medicine failed several trials. This seems hydroxychloroquine 2.0 |
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By *iger13Couple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
LOL and it’s only 500000 doses so divide by 6.5 needed per patient it’s enough for 80000 only and all it does is reduce length in intensive care but no real improvement in survival rate. So it’s a publicity stunt to show his supported America is such a great place not more- he is desperately looking for good news stories as his presidency is going to end in less than 6 months and all news from past weeks are grim for him |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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I did post this in Politics but . . .
Mr Trump has now changed his mind on wearing Masks.
He says that they make him look like the Lone Ranger.
I think perhaps he means to hide behind wearing one because he's actually now a Lonely Stranger.
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"Would we not do the same with similar circumstances...putting our own people first?
How much are they charging for it?
And what about our 'special relationship?
The so called 'special relationship' is a creation of the British media from the early eighties.
If you ask an American about it you just get a confused blank look.
And yet many people believe here think its trueDo they i think Obama made it quiet clear there wasn't one when he tried to influence the brexit vote.The only special relationship was when maggie and regan were in power.i dont think many believe there was one after that. "
I have heard loads of people mention it on phone ins etc its always been exaggerated and we were always the junior partner
As for trump he isnt doing it for Americans.He has.doing it for Americans who can afford health care. |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
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"Hasn’t done the world any favours just heard the USA have bought up most of the worlds supply of the drug that helps with corona. That we will have to wait till October to buy it again
The man is a joke, 50-100-250 thousand cases per week meaning they are going to need every single drop of it.
I just hope that the EU or UK get the vaccine first and use this as leverage.
The man is sick, buying up world supplies of medicine in order to cover up his incompetences.
If they controlled the virus over there, they would not need the amount of treatment they are going to need in 4 to 8 weeks and be enough to share.
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They do seem to be making a better job of controlling it with a death rate of 397 per million of population whilst here in UK we have a death rate of 647 per million, 65% higher than America. |
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"LOL and it’s only 500000 doses so divide by 6.5 needed per patient it’s enough for 80000 only and all it does is reduce length in intensive care but no real improvement in survival rate. So it’s a publicity stunt to show his supported America is such a great place not more- he is desperately looking for good news stories as his presidency is going to end in less than 6 months and all news from past weeks are grim for him "
That and the fact he can crow on about how he was more smartereriffic than the experts... |
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"LOL and it’s only 500000 doses so divide by 6.5 needed per patient it’s enough for 80000 only and all it does is reduce length in intensive care but no real improvement in survival rate. So it’s a publicity stunt to show his supported America is such a great place not more- he is desperately looking for good news stories as his presidency is going to end in less than 6 months and all news from past weeks are grim for him
That and the fact he can crow on about how he was more smartereriffic than the experts..."
What it does is lower the time in hospital and lower the health costs. So it's more about being efficent. The cost of someone in a bed for 4 days with COVID is over 12k dollars. |
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