Do you think we will start to find out about this soon? Think it's going to be tough considering the amount of places that wont stick to the guidlines and think this could be a downfall.. Hopefully i'm wrong |
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The government has drip fed us that physical distancing changes will be announced this week, reducing from 2m to 1m. These would likely be introduced from the July 4th date that pubs and restaurants can open, helping them to be more likely profitable.
We don't know for sure until it's announced but it could be launched earlier, such as later today, Tuesday. It would give a couple of weeks or so for pubs to alter their layouts, get new signs and training done.
1m is going to be a little similar to some prior habits, away from places that were rammed.
They've thrown the option of customer registration around. It could be viewed as a way of calming those who are concerned about sustained gatherings of people this soon. |
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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago
leeds |
What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life |
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over a year ago
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life "
If they're that worried they can stay home, no one is forcing anyone to go out, but for those who do want to let em  |
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By *s.KerryTV/TS
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"Do you think we will start to find out about this soon? Think it's going to be tough considering the amount of places that wont stick to the guidlines and think this could be a downfall.. Hopefully i'm wrong"
Apparently there will be an announcement today on not only pubs opening etc. but also whether there will be a change to the social distancing guidance.. |
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By *s.KerryTV/TS
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life "
Why have you cut and pasted this to so many threads? |
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life "
No confirmed date for a second spike. It may never even occur.
Everyone acting normal by getting back to work and socialising in respective bubbles, as per the guidance from the experts.
Vulnerable people's lives are valued as they are still continuing to shield.
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life
If they're that worried they can stay home, no one is forcing anyone to go out, but for those who do want to let em "
I tend to agree. It's upto individuals if they want to go out or stay in, free choice. As long as people do their best to respect other people space then we should all be fine. Guidelines are exactly that, a guide to how to interact. Interpretation into your own lifestyle is your choice. |
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life
Why have you cut and pasted this to so many threads? "
Lol yep  . Do you think they have a box and book for that type of preaching lol |
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If they're that worried they can stay home, no one is forcing anyone to go out, but for those who do want to let em "
I think this is what’s messing with my head.
Yes it worries me, so I stay at home.
But I still have to go to the shops and work etc. and the same people that decide not to stay in or keep to social distancing rules go there too...... |
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over a year ago
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Pubs will likely be asked to clock people in and out...for track n trace reasons and to limit numbers.
The WHO guidance has always been 1m and this distance has been used by most countries....most with far better results than we have had.
There is increasing evidence that the economic and HEALTH damage being done by "lockdown" is starting to be greater than the virus.
Either way it's a balance I wouldn't want to call.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do you think we will start to find out about this soon? Think it's going to be tough considering the amount of places that wont stick to the guidlines and think this could be a downfall.. Hopefully i'm wrong"
My local radio station had a whole programme yesterday on how our restaurants will be opening.
Apparently from middle of July, most of the city centre restaurants and bars will be open Al fresco. They are closing off 2 of the main streets to cars to make space for tables and chairs. Tables can be booked for up to 6 people. Tables will be 2 meters apart and payment will be contactless.
It's going to be a trial. If it works then great, if it doesn't then sadly some of the places will shut for good.
I can't see it working, but I hope I'm wrong. |
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life "
Trying to guilt people for craving some sort of normal is not ok. Supporting vulnerable people has been at the heart of lockdown so society does value vulnerable people, but we can't hide away forever and need to ease out of this. Before you cry what do I know....quite a bit, as I am front line and have have seen more deaths in the last few months than I care to mention. Do I crave a new normal? Hell yes! Am I going to be shamed cos of it - NO! |
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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago
Cheshire/Staffs |
"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life "
Ah yes you have put it on every single thread - how very odd |
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life "
Green Arrow folks  bulk spam. |
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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago
Cheshire/Staffs |
"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life
Green Arrow folks bulk spam."
On every thread |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life "
To debate this a little. In the context that I have largely followed the guidelines I think I have done as much as reasonably possible to not help spread the virus. It's ridiculous though to suggest that we should do everything to the nth degree to preserve Granny and grandad's Life.
They've had a good innings, if I was 70+ I'd look back on my life and think, yeah I had a good innings. it's time to let the young have the chance of life and an economy that gave me the opportunities in life that I had. Even at 58 I think like that.
I often talked to my mum, who was in her 90s about this before she died and although she fought to the very end for her last breath thought exactly the same. Maybe that's why I think like I do. You can't expect the young to sacrifice everything for us, it's just doesn't make any sense.
So no every single life cannot be saved at a cost of Billions of pounds and untold misery for people's mental health. It's just not viable |
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life
Green Arrow folks bulk spam.
On every thread "
Oh jeez. I'm not posting my reply on every thread for him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The trouble is if they don't open them up soon the kids will just make their own entertainment and trash the countryside and cause mayhem everywhere.
We had an attempted rave near chasewater last saturday. Luckily the police got wind of it and shut the village down but there were blue flashing lights everywhere and it must have been a close run thing. |
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over a year ago
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Should keep them closed.
Its been lovely venturing to the centre on a Saturday to do some shopping and not have to deal with Organ wasting bellends causing world war 3 everywhere
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"Yes opening from 4th July,1 metre SD along with hotels, B&B's, caravan parks"
Actually it's 1m +
Following a review, the Prime Minister has also set out that where it is not possible to stay two metres apart, guidance will allow people to keep a social distance of ‘one metre plus’. This means staying one metre apart, plus mitigations which reduce the risk of transmission.
Who knows what that means |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"I cannot wait for the 4th July now, it defo wont go back to normal straight away but its a good start at least "
I agree. Hopefully people will abide by the rules, so we don't find ourselves being overwhelmed by the virus again.  |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Yes opening from 4th July,1 metre SD along with hotels, B&B's, caravan parks
Actually it's 1m +
Following a review, the Prime Minister has also set out that where it is not possible to stay two metres apart, guidance will allow people to keep a social distance of ‘one metre plus’. This means staying one metre apart, plus mitigations which reduce the risk of transmission.
Who knows what that means "
Who knows, some people will still do what they want!  |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"Yes opening from 4th July,1 metre SD along with hotels, B&B's, caravan parks
Actually it's 1m +
Following a review, the Prime Minister has also set out that where it is not possible to stay two metres apart, guidance will allow people to keep a social distance of ‘one metre plus’. This means staying one metre apart, plus mitigations which reduce the risk of transmission.
Who knows what that means "
That’s a Good question.
I’m not sure everyone understands what that means, and I think Boris should have made it more clear. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Yes opening from 4th July,1 metre SD along with hotels, B&B's, caravan parks
Actually it's 1m +
Following a review, the Prime Minister has also set out that where it is not possible to stay two metres apart, guidance will allow people to keep a social distance of ‘one metre plus’. This means staying one metre apart, plus mitigations which reduce the risk of transmission.
Who knows what that means
That’s a Good question.
I’m not sure everyone understands what that means, and I think Boris should have made it more clear. "
By Mask wearing or/and gloves - or/and not staying long in the company of - or/and Handwashing . . .
I thought it was pretty clear.  |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"I cannot wait for the 4th July now, it defo wont go back to normal straight away but its a good start at least
I agree. Hopefully people will abide by the rules, so we don't find ourselves being overwhelmed by the virus again. "
I hope so too, that people will abide by them.
That will explains why Boris said these new rules are conditional and reversible. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"Yes opening from 4th July,1 metre SD along with hotels, B&B's, caravan parks
Actually it's 1m +
Following a review, the Prime Minister has also set out that where it is not possible to stay two metres apart, guidance will allow people to keep a social distance of ‘one metre plus’. This means staying one metre apart, plus mitigations which reduce the risk of transmission.
Who knows what that means
That’s a Good question.
I’m not sure everyone understands what that means, and I think Boris should have made it more clear.
By Mask wearing or/and gloves - or/and not staying long in the company of - or/and Handwashing . . .
I thought it was pretty clear. "
Is that what 1M+ means ? |
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"Should keep them closed.
Its been lovely venturing to the centre on a Saturday to do some shopping and not have to deal with Organ wasting bellends causing world war 3 everywhere
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Nearly spat my coffee out then! Organ wasting bellends lol |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Yes opening from 4th July,1 metre SD along with hotels, B&B's, caravan parks
Actually it's 1m +
Following a review, the Prime Minister has also set out that where it is not possible to stay two metres apart, guidance will allow people to keep a social distance of ‘one metre plus’. This means staying one metre apart, plus mitigations which reduce the risk of transmission.
Who knows what that means
That’s a Good question.
I’m not sure everyone understands what that means, and I think Boris should have made it more clear.
By Mask wearing or/and gloves - or/and not staying long in the company of - or/and Handwashing . . .
I thought it was pretty clear.
Is that what 1M+ means ?"
What he was saying was - Stay at 2 meters if you can.
1 metre+ means . . . Use things like Masks or don't stay long in the company of another stranger or use barriers like screens in restaurents or handwash etc etc |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"Yes opening from 4th July,1 metre SD along with hotels, B&B's, caravan parks
Actually it's 1m +
Following a review, the Prime Minister has also set out that where it is not possible to stay two metres apart, guidance will allow people to keep a social distance of ‘one metre plus’. This means staying one metre apart, plus mitigations which reduce the risk of transmission.
Who knows what that means
That’s a Good question.
I’m not sure everyone understands what that means, and I think Boris should have made it more clear.
By Mask wearing or/and gloves - or/and not staying long in the company of - or/and Handwashing . . .
I thought it was pretty clear.
Is that what 1M+ means ?
What he was saying was - Stay at 2 meters if you can.
1 metre+ means . . . Use things like Masks or don't stay long in the company of another stranger or use barriers like screens in restaurents or handwash etc etc "
Ok thanks for the clarification as I did not understand it properly , but understand it better now. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Yes opening from 4th July,1 metre SD along with hotels, B&B's, caravan parks
Actually it's 1m +
Following a review, the Prime Minister has also set out that where it is not possible to stay two metres apart, guidance will allow people to keep a social distance of ‘one metre plus’. This means staying one metre apart, plus mitigations which reduce the risk of transmission.
Who knows what that means
That’s a Good question.
I’m not sure everyone understands what that means, and I think Boris should have made it more clear.
By Mask wearing or/and gloves - or/and not staying long in the company of - or/and Handwashing . . .
I thought it was pretty clear.
Is that what 1M+ means ?
What he was saying was - Stay at 2 meters if you can.
1 metre+ means . . . Use things like Masks or don't stay long in the company of another stranger or use barriers like screens in restaurents or handwash etc etc
Ok thanks for the clarification as I did not understand it properly , but understand it better now. "
Also - for example in a restaurant if tables can't be at 2 meters then a screen could be put between. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"Yes opening from 4th July,1 metre SD along with hotels, B&B's, caravan parks
Actually it's 1m +
Following a review, the Prime Minister has also set out that where it is not possible to stay two metres apart, guidance will allow people to keep a social distance of ‘one metre plus’. This means staying one metre apart, plus mitigations which reduce the risk of transmission.
Who knows what that means
That’s a Good question.
I’m not sure everyone understands what that means, and I think Boris should have made it more clear.
By Mask wearing or/and gloves - or/and not staying long in the company of - or/and Handwashing . . .
I thought it was pretty clear.
Is that what 1M+ means ?
What he was saying was - Stay at 2 meters if you can.
1 metre+ means . . . Use things like Masks or don't stay long in the company of another stranger or use barriers like screens in restaurents or handwash etc etc
Ok thanks for the clarification as I did not understand it properly , but understand it better now.
Also - for example in a restaurant if tables can't be at 2 meters then a screen could be put between. "
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"Christ i cant believe people do not understand simple guidance. "
I understand the guidance and guidelines in general, I just did not understand the term: “1M+”
When in doubt, I prefer to ask, than assume. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Christ i cant believe people do not understand simple guidance.
I understand the guidance and guidelines in general, I just did not understand the term: “1M+”
When in doubt, I prefer to ask, than assume. "
Me too and I didn't hear him say what 1m+ meant, I thought it meant at least a metre and more if possible. |
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"Christ i cant believe people do not understand simple guidance.
I understand the guidance and guidelines in general, I just did not understand the term: “1M+”
When in doubt, I prefer to ask, than assume.
Me too and I didn't hear him say what 1m+ meant, I thought it meant at least a metre and more if possible."
1m+ means businesses and people should obey 2m distancing unless not possible. I doubt any business will observe this. No pub is going to obey the 2m even though they could. Economically they will just go with a max of 1m. |
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over a year ago
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"Christ i cant believe people do not understand simple guidance.
I understand the guidance and guidelines in general, I just did not understand the term: “1M+”
When in doubt, I prefer to ask, than assume.
Me too and I didn't hear him say what 1m+ meant, I thought it meant at least a metre and more if possible.
1m+ means businesses and people should obey 2m distancing unless not possible. I doubt any business will observe this. No pub is going to obey the 2m even though they could. Economically they will just go with a max of 1m."
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Yes and there is talk of the perspex screens, table service etc I hope it works for everyone |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life "
how will we ever know how safe it is if we dont try? Obviously people should still be cautious but I for one am happy to try to live some kind of normality again. I have extremely vulnerable family members too who I am naturally avoiding seeing them close up. |
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"I cannot wait for the 4th July now, it defo wont go back to normal straight away but its a good start at least
I agree. Hopefully people will abide by the rules, so we don't find ourselves being overwhelmed by the virus again. "
But we know they won't,as many haven't been abiding by any rules in recent weeks.
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over a year ago
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"I cannot wait for the 4th July now, it defo wont go back to normal straight away but its a good start at least
I agree. Hopefully people will abide by the rules, so we don't find ourselves being overwhelmed by the virus again.
But we know they won't,as many haven't been abiding by any rules in recent weeks.
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life "
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Sounds like some halfwitted surreal poem from the dark ages, either that or a line or three from some pretentious goom-bah song............(?!)
My opinion....., naturally.
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life
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Sounds like some halfwitted surreal poem from the dark ages, either that or a line or three from some pretentious goom-bah song............(?!)
My opinion....., naturally.
Eva X "
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"Should keep them closed.
Its been lovely venturing to the centre on a Saturday to do some shopping and not have to deal with Organ wasting bellends causing world war 3 everywhere
Nearly spat my coffee out then! Organ wasting bellends lol "
LoL nobody likes a pisscan though |
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"Christ i cant believe people do not understand simple guidance.
People choose to listen to what suits them.
Thy will interpritate the guidlines to best suit thier own personal needs.
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I think what the government is saying, keep your distance if you can and don't mix with strangers for to long. In other words stay safe and look after yourself, they can't hold your hand forever. |
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"Christ i cant believe people do not understand simple guidance.
People choose to listen to what suits them.
Thy will interpritate the guidlines to best suit thier own personal needs.
I think what the government is saying, keep your distance if you can and don't mix with strangers for to long. In other words stay safe and look after yourself, they can't hold your hand forever. "
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"The government has drip fed us that physical distancing changes will be announced this week, reducing from 2m to 1m. These would likely be introduced from the July 4th date that pubs and restaurants can open, helping them to be more likely profitable.
We don't know for sure until it's announced but it could be launched earlier, such as later today, Tuesday. It would give a couple of weeks or so for pubs to alter their layouts, get new signs and training done.
1m is going to be a little similar to some prior habits, away from places that were rammed.
They've thrown the option of customer registration around. It could be viewed as a way of calming those who are concerned about sustained gatherings of people this soon. "
It's been announced that we can have 1m distance, via 1m+ as Johnson calls it, if there are mitigating factors, such as screens.
I think the pubs have been installing these ready. Not long until the 4th July.
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Some woman on sky news now worrying about pubs/restaurant and GDPR....
They will need to know who is in and when for track and trace reasons ...obviously
Dunno about you...but if I book a table at restaurant...they always ask for name and number anyway.
I tend to drink in 2 (occasionally a 3rd) pub....most people there know my name and a fair few my number....where's the problem? |
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life
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Sounds like some halfwitted surreal poem from the dark ages, either that or a line or three from some pretentious goom-bah song............(?!)
My opinion....., naturally.
Eva X "
This same quote has been posted on about 58 different threads by same person (green arrows are great) would have thought admin would have sorted by now? |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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"Some woman on sky news now worrying about pubs/restaurant and GDPR....
They will need to know who is in and when for track and trace reasons ...obviously
Dunno about you...but if I book a table at restaurant...they always ask for name and number anyway.
I tend to drink in 2 (occasionally a 3rd) pub....most people there know my name and a fair few my number....where's the problem?"
Hmmm as a club we are legally required to register with ICO for data protection - I'll bet not many pubs or Restaurants are.
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If people feel so strongly about this and catching it, then they should stick to shielding, not going to the pub.
Personally I'm not too bothered about the pubs, but I understand some love them. We're all getting to the stage people should make their own judgements about what they deem safe and what is not. I enjoy some extreme sports and take the risk everytime, but it's a risk I enjoy taking.
The virus is not one I would enjoy risking and t for those more at risk then I can't understand why they would take that risk, I'd be doing everything I could to shield myself.
Not worth it for a pint, I'm sorry |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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mist perps i know are happy to jwep drinking in the garden and with neighbours at the mo.its cheaper u can smoke have the music as loud as ya want and ya not being fleeced.unless the summer turns shit i think peeps will prefer the garden than a pub what wiv all the rules that will be in place |
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I expect The Westminster Arms in Storeys Gate SW1 will be busy. Open for those little trysts away from the Houses of Parliament campus and the bars that have ears! I'll bet there are any number of our representatives and peers wanting a libation. And of course the politicos of our wonderful press for off-message mistakes. 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Before covid i was in the pub most days - to eat or drink tea and read as i dont drink
when going through tough times it was one way of me to get out of the house and have some food (i dont cook)
Obviously over last few weeks have had to change that
i wont be rushing back to pubs but at times still miss - esp if was meeting a friend for lunch and a decent catch up
everyone has to make their own decisions
in the same way that for someone who used to to the cinema three or four times a month i wont be rushing back there either
but i hope the changes work |
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