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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So, asking for a friend... no seriously!
With the latest updates regarding those shielding, my friend is a single Pringle who lives in a HMO with someone who is/was shielding.
As of July 6th, can they start to form bubbles or meet with social distancing or???
We’ve tried looking online but it seems a bit confusing x
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If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance |
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance"
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x |
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x "
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house."
Yes I know you can’t mix bubbles 
Thanks sweet, appreciate your time xx |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house."
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP. |
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
Yes I know you can’t mix bubbles
Thanks sweet, appreciate your time xx "
Might be worth hanging around for some other replies, as there may be an alternative interpretation of the Gov advice ... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP. "
That makes it very difficult though...
Not just for us but anyone living with family, renting rooms etc
Clear as the sky lol |
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP. "
Maybe....
The OP could form their bubble and go and stay at the friends household
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP.
Maybe....
The OP could form their bubble and go and stay at the friends household
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Yeah, that would still have the same restrictions though. Nobody else in the home could bubble with anyone else. To be fair, it's not like anyone will check. |
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP. "
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By *on12xxMan
over a year ago
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What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life |
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over a year ago
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP.
That makes it very difficult though...
Not just for us but anyone living with family, renting rooms etc
Clear as the sky lol"
If you are living in same house as sheilding person then you are a household....not a single. So you can only form a "bubble" with a single person, living on their own or with child under 18.
One "half" of any bubble needs to be "single adult household". That part of guidance is clear. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"What value is one life.
Virus hasnt gone away
Everyone acting normally before second spike in october
It appears, vulnerable people's, lives, are not valued
So what value do you put one life???
Someone mum dad grandad grandmum
Or is it I'm OK doesn't matter
So what value do you put on one life "
What is your point?
I have self isolated throughout, I have isolated my son too.
I have made it extremely difficult for both of us to lead a ‘normal’ life during this crisis.
There are many on here who have been meeting up through lockdown with not a care in the world.
I was asking the question... I wasn’t declaring I was going to start knocking on peoples doors or invite people to party at mine.
I simply asked a question!
Look around you.... life HAS to get back to normal at some point somehow.
Someone has to start taking risks so they can be assessed!
I asked a question.....
Oh and if you think we’re going to hit the second spike in October???
Read more... October is flu season, don’t confuse the two!
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP.
That makes it very difficult though...
Not just for us but anyone living with family, renting rooms etc
Clear as the sky lol"
That's kind of the point. They did state that this is so that single adult households can form a support bubble, it's for those people that have had little to no social interaction with other adults for the lockdown.
As you are in a single adult household you can bubble with any other household, however, this means that nobody else in the other household can bubble with anyone else.
Trust me, I understand the frustration, I'm single with a child but I'm my mums carer, she lives with me, I'm desperate for some real adult conversation but I'm just having to wait. |
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP.
That makes it very difficult though...
Not just for us but anyone living with family, renting rooms etc
Clear as the sky lol
That's kind of the point. They did state that this is so that single adult households can form a support bubble, it's for those people that have had little to no social interaction with other adults for the lockdown.
As you are in a single adult household you can bubble with any other household, however, this means that nobody else in the other household can bubble with anyone else.
Trust me, I understand the frustration, I'm single with a child but I'm my mums carer, she lives with me, I'm desperate for some real adult conversation but I'm just having to wait. "
So i guess in this particular situation its ok.
The HMO household is not a single household - they have other people to socialise with.
The OP is in single occupancy and so they can bubble with the HMO.
If I was OP I would get in there quick, and make sure the other folks in the HMO know that you are the only bubble person allowed 
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP.
That makes it very difficult though...
Not just for us but anyone living with family, renting rooms etc
Clear as the sky lol
That's kind of the point. They did state that this is so that single adult households can form a support bubble, it's for those people that have had little to no social interaction with other adults for the lockdown.
As you are in a single adult household you can bubble with any other household, however, this means that nobody else in the other household can bubble with anyone else.
Trust me, I understand the frustration, I'm single with a child but I'm my mums carer, she lives with me, I'm desperate for some real adult conversation but I'm just having to wait. "
I feel you!
To be honest, I just want to hug my best friend, share a few beers together and maybe spoon for that physical contact...
We’ll get there sweet xx |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP.
That makes it very difficult though...
Not just for us but anyone living with family, renting rooms etc
Clear as the sky lol
That's kind of the point. They did state that this is so that single adult households can form a support bubble, it's for those people that have had little to no social interaction with other adults for the lockdown.
As you are in a single adult household you can bubble with any other household, however, this means that nobody else in the other household can bubble with anyone else.
Trust me, I understand the frustration, I'm single with a child but I'm my mums carer, she lives with me, I'm desperate for some real adult conversation but I'm just having to wait.
I feel you!
To be honest, I just want to hug my best friend, share a few beers together and maybe spoon for that physical contact...
We’ll get there sweet xx "
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By *eeleyWoman
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Dudley |
"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP.
That makes it very difficult though...
Not just for us but anyone living with family, renting rooms etc
Clear as the sky lol
That's kind of the point. They did state that this is so that single adult households can form a support bubble, it's for those people that have had little to no social interaction with other adults for the lockdown.
As you are in a single adult household you can bubble with any other household, however, this means that nobody else in the other household can bubble with anyone else.
Trust me, I understand the frustration, I'm single with a child but I'm my mums carer, she lives with me, I'm desperate for some real adult conversation but I'm just having to wait.
So i guess in this particular situation its ok.
The HMO household is not a single household - they have other people to socialise with.
The OP is in single occupancy and so they can bubble with the HMO.
If I was OP I would get in there quick, and make sure the other folks in the HMO know that you are the only bubble person allowed
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"If the friend you are asking for is not shielding then the wider guidance for single adult households applies. They are not shielding .
The shielder in the HMO - their personal environment changes:
From 6 July, the government will be advising:
you may, if you wish, meet in a group of up to 6 people outdoors, including people from different households, while maintaining strict social distancing
you no longer need to observe social distancing with other members of your household
in line with the wider guidance for single adult households (either an adult living alone or with dependent children under 18) in the general population, you may from this date, if you wish, also form a ‘support bubble’ with one other household. All those in a support bubble will be able to spend time together inside each other’s homes, including overnight, without needing to socially distance
So basically they don’t need to Social distance because of their shielding house mate, they are free to come to my house for the weekend?
I’m a single parent with a dependant x
My understanding of the situation would lead me to say yes they can go to your house - as long as you, or the person coming to stay in your house, have not formed a bubble with any other house.
I think house shares etc class as a household. Especially since they share kitchens/toilets etc.
So nobody else in that house would be able to form a bubble with anyone else if the friend came to stay with the OP.
That makes it very difficult though...
Not just for us but anyone living with family, renting rooms etc
Clear as the sky lol
That's kind of the point. They did state that this is so that single adult households can form a support bubble, it's for those people that have had little to no social interaction with other adults for the lockdown.
As you are in a single adult household you can bubble with any other household, however, this means that nobody else in the other household can bubble with anyone else.
Trust me, I understand the frustration, I'm single with a child but I'm my mums carer, she lives with me, I'm desperate for some real adult conversation but I'm just having to wait.
So i guess in this particular situation its ok.
The HMO household is not a single household - they have other people to socialise with.
The OP is in single occupancy and so they can bubble with the HMO.
If I was OP I would get in there quick, and make sure the other folks in the HMO know that you are the only bubble person allowed
Haha, yep, get in there first then there's no choice lol. "
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