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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
Our education system is like our train network, a fucking fragmented mess. The unions have tried desperately to prevent this fragmentation over the years but the tories couldn't resist to do to schools what they did to hospitals, trains etc... Divide to conquer.
How can we genuinely have free schools set up by parents or people who know f. all about education. I may as well start up my own nuclear power station or doctor surgery.  |
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I've had a look at the first thread. What I can say is that the school I work for has probably done everything we can. We anticipated closing (indeed our head was tipped off a few days early) and began talking about how we could deliver lessons remotely. Several departments including mine were already using online resources to complement lessons and online homework systems. So initially we were able to use these while we spent the first two weeks after closing creating our own online resources. I am in Science, and we have a full set of Powerpoint presentations, Word documents, videos and web links for each and every topic in years 7-13. It's taken time and every teacher and member of support staff has been working their bums off to achieve this. About three weeks in, teachers began teaching lessons to their students via Microsoft Teams. This has been expanded and to every teacher and is intended to complement the other materials.
Now, you can lead a horse to water but cannot make it drink. Some classes have 90% attendance for Teams lessons and for set tasks ("homework"). Others have 40% and there are myriad reasons. It could be the family don't own sufficient laptops/tablets for each kid to use one. It could be that the kids relied on help while at school (eg language skills, teaching assistants). And in some cases the kids are probably not motivated to learn. It's no full substitute for school but the staff have been working really hard to give the children resources that they can access in their own time as well as scheduled lessons.
In my 20 years working in education it has been very rare to encounter a teacher who is not dedicated to the kids they teach. Most teachers are as unhappy with the system as anyone else is and continue to do their best year after year. As a science technician I try to inject fun and excitement into the lessons, as well as using my tech skills to help everyone in these difficult times with electronic resources. The countless hours I've spent editing videos of science experiments, editing PDF and word documents to suit the school's way of teaching and the different ability levels we provide for....
I know the Daily Mail likes to think of us all as lazy people who get long holidays and work 9-3. I work the fucking holidays and I don't know any teacher who is able to leave before 6pm , and even then they take work home with them. During holidays teachers typically teach "intervention lessons" and plan the next term. While I clear up 15 laboratories from the mess of a term, check all the chemicals and apparatus and prepare for the next term...while assisting the teachers with their plans.
During the pandemic, as far as I am aware every school has been trying to get resources to the children they are responsible for. Some may do better than others. We were lucky in that we had a head start with some of the technology and the tip off about closing. But they're all working their butts off. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Our education system is like our train network, a fucking fragmented mess. The unions have tried desperately to prevent this fragmentation over the years but the tories couldn't resist to do to schools what they did to hospitals, trains etc... Divide to conquer.
How can we genuinely have free schools set up by parents or people who know f. all about education. I may as well start up my own nuclear power station or doctor surgery. "
Or become a recognised and qualified Critic of Government.
Of course free schools can exist because they still have to satisfy Ofsted of their educaional output and standards. In order to do so they employ education specialists to guide the schools policy in line with the countries requirement and standards of education. |
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"I've had a look at the first thread. What I can say is that the school I work for has probably done everything we can. We anticipated closing (indeed our head was tipped off a few days early) and began talking about how we could deliver lessons remotely. Several departments including mine were already using online resources to complement lessons and online homework systems. So initially we were able to use these while we spent the first two weeks after closing creating our own online resources. I am in Science, and we have a full set of Powerpoint presentations, Word documents, videos and web links for each and every topic in years 7-13. It's taken time and every teacher and member of support staff has been working their bums off to achieve this. About three weeks in, teachers began teaching lessons to their students via Microsoft Teams. This has been expanded and to every teacher and is intended to complement the other materials.
Now, you can lead a horse to water but cannot make it drink. Some classes have 90% attendance for Teams lessons and for set tasks ("homework"). Others have 40% and there are myriad reasons. It could be the family don't own sufficient laptops/tablets for each kid to use one. It could be that the kids relied on help while at school (eg language skills, teaching assistants). And in some cases the kids are probably not motivated to learn. It's no full substitute for school but the staff have been working really hard to give the children resources that they can access in their own time as well as scheduled lessons.
In my 20 years working in education it has been very rare to encounter a teacher who is not dedicated to the kids they teach. Most teachers are as unhappy with the system as anyone else is and continue to do their best year after year. As a science technician I try to inject fun and excitement into the lessons, as well as using my tech skills to help everyone in these difficult times with electronic resources. The countless hours I've spent editing videos of science experiments, editing PDF and word documents to suit the school's way of teaching and the different ability levels we provide for....
I know the Daily Mail likes to think of us all as lazy people who get long holidays and work 9-3. I work the fucking holidays and I don't know any teacher who is able to leave before 6pm , and even then they take work home with them. During holidays teachers typically teach "intervention lessons" and plan the next term. While I clear up 15 laboratories from the mess of a term, check all the chemicals and apparatus and prepare for the next term...while assisting the teachers with their plans.
During the pandemic, as far as I am aware every school has been trying to get resources to the children they are responsible for. Some may do better than others. We were lucky in that we had a head start with some of the technology and the tip off about closing. But they're all working their butts off."
You should be proud and I bet there are countless others like you.
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Full credit to the dedicated staff and unions who have worked tirelessly as ever to support provision of a good education to our children 
But the foundations of the system have been undermined by the very people who should be accountable and trustworthy for the masses but aren't. The country's leader was given a gold standard start to his life via Eton but it could do little with his limited intelligence and lack of empathy for others. Unlike our teachers, he's as lazy as they come, shirking effort and responsibility. It's the people of his ilk who have relished the chance to slash and grab the superb assets we've had, benefitting the few. They have no interest in anything more than the wellbeing of the very few. This virus has shown us how inept and uncaring that they are. See the unravelling of even worse as they continue with their style. Children's education should not be disposable or optional. |
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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Our education system is like our train network, a fucking fragmented mess. The unions have tried desperately to prevent this fragmentation over the years but the tories couldn't resist to do to schools what they did to hospitals, trains etc... Divide to conquer.
How can we genuinely have free schools set up by parents or people who know f. all about education. I may as well start up my own nuclear power station or doctor surgery.
Or become a recognised and qualified Critic of Government.
Of course free schools can exist because they still have to satisfy Ofsted of their educaional output and standards. In order to do so they employ education specialists to guide the schools policy in line with the countries requirement and standards of education. "
I disagree completely with the idea of free schools. I also disagree with the concept that people can teach with a light touch training which is what the tories have been trying to implement for years. Teaching is a highly qualified job that not everyone can and should do. The typical one liner ‘successful businessmen’ can sort out school is utter tosh.
Free schools are just a way to fragment the school system even more than it is. Free schools shouldn’t exist more than free doctor surgeries exist. Let parents bring up their children properly at hone, and equip them with the right skills, be school governors and let the people who are qualified to run schools and the system.
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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
Instead of opening free schools and pouring money into them, they should make sure that the schools we already have have enough funds to function properly. No point in playing politics by opening a few schools here and there and let thousand of other schools struggle or close. |
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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Full credit to the dedicated staff and unions who have worked tirelessly as ever to support provision of a good education to our children
But the foundations of the system have been undermined by the very people who should be accountable and trustworthy for the masses but aren't. The country's leader was given a gold standard start to his life via Eton but it could do little with his limited intelligence and lack of empathy for others. Unlike our teachers, he's as lazy as they come, shirking effort and responsibility. It's the people of his ilk who have relished the chance to slash and grab the superb assets we've had, benefitting the few. They have no interest in anything more than the wellbeing of the very few. This virus has shown us how inept and uncaring that they are. See the unravelling of even worse as they continue with their style. Children's education should not be disposable or optional. "
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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago
Cardiff |
From what I can see some teachers are working flat out preparing remote lessons talking to the pupils on zoom and some are doing absolutely nothing.
I don't understand how the teachers who are not doing anything are getting a full wage |
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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago
South Wales |
I have nothing but good things to say about my children’s School.
They don’t set an impossible amount of work, but the work they do set is interesting and engaging. I then top up their work with “basic” maths and english, spelling and handwriting stuff as well as reading as my youngest has ASD and i have to adapt his set classwork to work for him.
But the School and the Teachers have been very good, they have rung to check in on them, i had a concern with regard to my youngest, emailed the School and they got back to me asap with advice and suggestions.
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After reading the first thread, it all depends on the School...
Ours (year 3, academy) has been disappointing. We are sent links to free educational websites at the beginning of each week. No regular contact, no set work, monitoring or marking. Class teacher has called once, and only then because several parents complained about not having any contact.
Two Teacher friends have different year groups (foundation and year 6) at different schools, but both part of the same academy.
Until this week they have been in school one day every other week on a rota and then doing a few hours each day from home - setting work on an online platform, recording themselves reading, making lesson videos, phoning the kids in their class etc.
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