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“A No 10 SPAD [special adviser] asked her directly how she would answer the Dominic Cummings question and she refused to play along and told them she would answer the same way as Jonathan Van-Tam. She was dropped immediately from the press briefing.”
Breaking story in the Independent now. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"get over it. 
60,000+ families will get over it in time. They need to mourn first.
Public relations is more important than public health."
Right so you are now telling me cummins is responsible for 60,000+ deaths? |
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"get over it.
60,000+ families will get over it in time. They need to mourn first.
Public relations is more important than public health.Right so you are now telling me cummins is responsible for 60,000+ deaths? "
His policies contributed. And his actions shit on the graves of those people. Having the experts at the briefings lends more weight to the scientific messages that they're trying to get across rather that all the bullshit and lies. I trust her or Van Tam to tell me the truth more than the politicians. |
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"And the rioters get a pass! Give me a break.
Of course we can't upset the darling protester thugs. It there right to spread the virus while vandalizing statues. "
Nor the likes of Tommy Robinson, probably a friend of yours... |
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"And the rioters get a pass! Give me a break.
Of course we can't upset the darling protester thugs. It there right to spread the virus while vandalizing statues.
Nor the likes of Tommy Robinson, probably a friend of yours... "
Why do you think he is a friend of mine? |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"And the rioters get a pass! Give me a break.
Of course we can't upset the darling protester thugs. It there right to spread the virus while vandalizing statues.
Nor the likes of Tommy Robinson, probably a friend of yours... "
That's abit of a reach, he was being sarcastic  |
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"And the rioters get a pass! Give me a break. "
The public have a right to expect their leaders to lead by example. Cummings and the rest of them don't believe the rules apply to them, only to the riff raff. Trying to pretend there's any equivalence between the protestors (or the clowns at the beach) and Cummings et al is disingenuous at best |
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"And the rioters get a pass! Give me a break.
The public have a right to expect their leaders to lead by example. Cummings and the rest of them don't believe the rules apply to them, only to the riff raff. Trying to pretend there's any equivalence between the protestors (or the clowns at the beach) and Cummings et al is disingenuous at best"
The rioters should face the law like everyone else and be punished according to the law. What ever they are protesting about does not entitle them to commit crime |
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"get over it.
60,000+ families will get over it in time. They need to mourn first.
Public relations is more important than public health.Right so you are now telling me cummins is responsible for 60,000+ deaths? "
Pretty much. |
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"get over it.
60,000+ families will get over it in time. They need to mourn first.
Public relations is more important than public health.Right so you are now telling me cummins is responsible for 60,000+ deaths?
His policies contributed. And his actions shit on the graves of those people. Having the experts at the briefings lends more weight to the scientific messages that they're trying to get across rather that all the bullshit and lies. I trust her or Van Tam to tell me the truth more than the politicians."
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So let me get this straight...
Cheif Nurse, given said job due to her experience and knowledge has been dropped for not protecting an un-elected advisor who simply has the ear of the Prime minister?
ok... |
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By *hilMan
over a year ago
HOUGHTON LE SPRING |
Government censorship, you get the chop if you try to tell the truth or question government policies or decisions or scrutinise their actions.
Same with daily briefings , using a mute button to cut people off from asking questions. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
Forum Mod O o O oo |
"Still can't find this as anything other than social media gossip?
Is it a 'Karen on Facebook said' or is it a true life story?
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-chief-nurse-dominic-cummings-ruth-may-daily-briefing-downing-street-a9562741.html |
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Just the media trying to stir the pot on a 3 week old story, maybe they should ask some real questions about reports from Italy of the virus mutating and weakening.
Instead of playing for Saturday click bait. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
Forum Mod O o O oo |
"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has.
and still unconfirmed gossip."
You asked where the source was as you said it was Karen on social media rubbish. I gave you the source which was the first hit on google when I searched to see if I could find anything on it.
You obviously don't have to believe it but I doubt everything that is reported is gossip or untrue
They said at the beginning of the year that there was a virus on the way that could kill a good many people, the naysayers called that gossip and untrue then too
I suppose we will all have to wait and see if a lot is true or not |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has.
and still unconfirmed gossip.
You asked where the source was as you said it was Karen on social media rubbish. I gave you the source which was the first hit on google when I searched to see if I could find anything on it.
You obviously don't have to believe it but I doubt everything that is reported is gossip or untrue
They said at the beginning of the year that there was a virus on the way that could kill a good many people, the naysayers called that gossip and untrue then too
I suppose we will all have to wait and see if a lot is true or not"
I saw your link and went to it. TY. But until the story is confirmed it really is still gossip. I think the way to treat the press is have healthy doubt until it's confirmed as true or false by those involved. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
Forum Mod O o O oo |
"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has.
and still unconfirmed gossip.
You asked where the source was as you said it was Karen on social media rubbish. I gave you the source which was the first hit on google when I searched to see if I could find anything on it.
You obviously don't have to believe it but I doubt everything that is reported is gossip or untrue
They said at the beginning of the year that there was a virus on the way that could kill a good many people, the naysayers called that gossip and untrue then too
I suppose we will all have to wait and see if a lot is true or not
I saw your link and went to it. TY. But until the story is confirmed it really is still gossip. I think the way to treat the press is have healthy doubt until it's confirmed as true or false by those involved."
As said in my post "You obviously don't have to believe it" |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has.
and still unconfirmed gossip.
You asked where the source was as you said it was Karen on social media rubbish. I gave you the source which was the first hit on google when I searched to see if I could find anything on it.
You obviously don't have to believe it but I doubt everything that is reported is gossip or untrue
They said at the beginning of the year that there was a virus on the way that could kill a good many people, the naysayers called that gossip and untrue then too
I suppose we will all have to wait and see if a lot is true or not
I saw your link and went to it. TY. But until the story is confirmed it really is still gossip. I think the way to treat the press is have healthy doubt until it's confirmed as true or false by those involved.
As said in my post "You obviously don't have to believe it""
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
science vs politics.... and the amount of people defending "politics" here is sad....
but it is what it is.... and you know this government put the politics of "one" over the science of a nation.... and remember that next time we all go out and vote!
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"science vs politics.... and the amount of people defending "politics" here is sad....
but it is what it is.... and you know this government put the politics of "one" over the science of a nation.... and remember that next time we all go out and vote!
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... only small problem with this is, they did follow the science, and the science advised the timing of lockdown, despite the thought it was the politics determining when and how to deal with it .
The recently released minutes are providing a much clearer picture now, rather than the hearsay and rumour. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has.
and still unconfirmed gossip.
You asked where the source was as you said it was Karen on social media rubbish. I gave you the source which was the first hit on google when I searched to see if I could find anything on it.
You obviously don't have to believe it but I doubt everything that is reported is gossip or untrue
They said at the beginning of the year that there was a virus on the way that could kill a good many people, the naysayers called that gossip and untrue then too
I suppose we will all have to wait and see if a lot is true or not
I saw your link and went to it. TY. But until the story is confirmed it really is still gossip. I think the way to treat the press is have healthy doubt until it's confirmed as true or false by those involved.
As said in my post "You obviously don't have to believe it"
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Confirmed by the Guardian here https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/12/chief-nurse-dropped-from-no-10-briefing-for-not-backing-cummings. I'm sure you know damn well the civil servants, SPADs or politicians concerned will not offer positive confirmation. They haven't denied it either, it's my understanding in these circumstances the absence of a denial is a implicit confirmation. |
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"And the rioters get a pass! Give me a break.
What do you want - to shoot them on sight? "
I was thinkin water cannon with some disinfenctant.
A good soakin didn't hurt anbody.
I can see it now Cummings in his Devil costume spraying them.
Peace?
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has.
and still unconfirmed gossip.
You asked where the source was as you said it was Karen on social media rubbish. I gave you the source which was the first hit on google when I searched to see if I could find anything on it.
You obviously don't have to believe it but I doubt everything that is reported is gossip or untrue
They said at the beginning of the year that there was a virus on the way that could kill a good many people, the naysayers called that gossip and untrue then too
I suppose we will all have to wait and see if a lot is true or not
I saw your link and went to it. TY. But until the story is confirmed it really is still gossip. I think the way to treat the press is have healthy doubt until it's confirmed as true or false by those involved.
As said in my post "You obviously don't have to believe it"
Confirmed by the Guardian here https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/12/chief-nurse-dropped-from-no-10-briefing-for-not-backing-cummings. I'm sure you know damn well the civil servants, SPADs or politicians concerned will not offer positive confirmation. They haven't denied it either, it's my understanding in these circumstances the absence of a denial is a implicit confirmation. "
Many many civil servants advisors et-al have confirmed or denied the truth or untruth of a story.
Quoting the Guardian as a confirmation is not a confirmation of the stories truth. |
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By *exy7Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
"GOOD. You only have the pressers to blame, they shouldn't be trying to drag these folks into the political fray anyhow, they just want to stir the pot for their agenda and click bait. "
Trump’s clone has struck again. Everything that doesn’t tie in your right wing propaganda is fake news. Pretty much the same approach to the press as communist countries... |
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By *exy7Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has."
This is also gossip or bullshit until she really takes part in a press conference. And the press won’t miss the opportunity to ask her the right questions. Hopefully she will be allowed to answer the question and not gagged by Johnson as he did when Whitty and Vallance were asked about Cummings. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has.
and still unconfirmed gossip.
You asked where the source was as you said it was Karen on social media rubbish. I gave you the source which was the first hit on google when I searched to see if I could find anything on it.
You obviously don't have to believe it but I doubt everything that is reported is gossip or untrue
They said at the beginning of the year that there was a virus on the way that could kill a good many people, the naysayers called that gossip and untrue then too
I suppose we will all have to wait and see if a lot is true or not
I saw your link and went to it. TY. But until the story is confirmed it really is still gossip. I think the way to treat the press is have healthy doubt until it's confirmed as true or false by those involved.
As said in my post "You obviously don't have to believe it"
Confirmed by the Guardian here https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/12/chief-nurse-dropped-from-no-10-briefing-for-not-backing-cummings. I'm sure you know damn well the civil servants, SPADs or politicians concerned will not offer positive confirmation. They haven't denied it either, it's my understanding in these circumstances the absence of a denial is a implicit confirmation.
Many many civil servants advisors et-al have confirmed or denied the truth or untruth of a story.
Quoting the Guardian as a confirmation is not a confirmation of the stories truth."
Agree if I see a Guardian link I never click it.
Someone one these forums said it was a centralised newspaper.
I literally pissed myself  |
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"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has.
and still unconfirmed gossip.
You asked where the source was as you said it was Karen on social media rubbish. I gave you the source which was the first hit on google when I searched to see if I could find anything on it.
You obviously don't have to believe it but I doubt everything that is reported is gossip or untrue
They said at the beginning of the year that there was a virus on the way that could kill a good many people, the naysayers called that gossip and untrue then too
I suppose we will all have to wait and see if a lot is true or not
I saw your link and went to it. TY. But until the story is confirmed it really is still gossip. I think the way to treat the press is have healthy doubt until it's confirmed as true or false by those involved.
As said in my post "You obviously don't have to believe it"
Confirmed by the Guardian here https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/12/chief-nurse-dropped-from-no-10-briefing-for-not-backing-cummings. I'm sure you know damn well the civil servants, SPADs or politicians concerned will not offer positive confirmation. They haven't denied it either, it's my understanding in these circumstances the absence of a denial is a implicit confirmation.
Many many civil servants advisors et-al have confirmed or denied the truth or untruth of a story.
Quoting the Guardian as a confirmation is not a confirmation of the stories truth."
Indeed.
Only in time will we know if its true. Newspapers reporting what they think is hardly proof. In the Cummings story they printed stories that turned out to be complete lies and in the end were proven to be lies.
If its true then I share the outrage but prefer to await actual facts first |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has.
and still unconfirmed gossip.
You asked where the source was as you said it was Karen on social media rubbish. I gave you the source which was the first hit on google when I searched to see if I could find anything on it.
You obviously don't have to believe it but I doubt everything that is reported is gossip or untrue
They said at the beginning of the year that there was a virus on the way that could kill a good many people, the naysayers called that gossip and untrue then too
I suppose we will all have to wait and see if a lot is true or not
I saw your link and went to it. TY. But until the story is confirmed it really is still gossip. I think the way to treat the press is have healthy doubt until it's confirmed as true or false by those involved.
As said in my post "You obviously don't have to believe it"
Confirmed by the Guardian here https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/12/chief-nurse-dropped-from-no-10-briefing-for-not-backing-cummings. I'm sure you know damn well the civil servants, SPADs or politicians concerned will not offer positive confirmation. They haven't denied it either, it's my understanding in these circumstances the absence of a denial is a implicit confirmation.
Many many civil servants advisors et-al have confirmed or denied the truth or untruth of a story.
Quoting the Guardian as a confirmation is not a confirmation of the stories truth.
Agree if I see a Guardian link I never click it.
Someone one these forums said it was a centralised newspaper.
I literally pissed myself "
Spontaneous incontinence induced by a internet comment, thats a new one for me. Thanks for sharing your TENA moment. |
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over a year ago
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"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has.
and still unconfirmed gossip.
You asked where the source was as you said it was Karen on social media rubbish. I gave you the source which was the first hit on google when I searched to see if I could find anything on it.
You obviously don't have to believe it but I doubt everything that is reported is gossip or untrue
They said at the beginning of the year that there was a virus on the way that could kill a good many people, the naysayers called that gossip and untrue then too
I suppose we will all have to wait and see if a lot is true or not
I saw your link and went to it. TY. But until the story is confirmed it really is still gossip. I think the way to treat the press is have healthy doubt until it's confirmed as true or false by those involved.
As said in my post "You obviously don't have to believe it"
Confirmed by the Guardian here https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/12/chief-nurse-dropped-from-no-10-briefing-for-not-backing-cummings. I'm sure you know damn well the civil servants, SPADs or politicians concerned will not offer positive confirmation. They haven't denied it either, it's my understanding in these circumstances the absence of a denial is a implicit confirmation.
Many many civil servants advisors et-al have confirmed or denied the truth or untruth of a story.
Quoting the Guardian as a confirmation is not a confirmation of the stories truth.
Agree if I see a Guardian link I never click it.
Someone one these forums said it was a centralised newspaper.
I literally pissed myself
Spontaneous incontinence induced by a internet comment, thats a new one for me. Thanks for sharing your TENA moment."
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By *ikilovesCCouple
over a year ago
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"“A No 10 SPAD [special adviser] asked her directly how she would answer the Dominic Cummings question and she refused to play along and told them she would answer the same way as Jonathan Van-Tam. She was dropped immediately from the press briefing.”
Breaking story in the Independent now."
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Yes saw that, and the way they dropped Van-Tam for speaking up was a absolute disgrace too,
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We're following what the scientists say,
except for when they don't say what we tell them to say |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Government website say that they expect her to contribute in the future as she always has.
and still unconfirmed gossip.
You asked where the source was as you said it was Karen on social media rubbish. I gave you the source which was the first hit on google when I searched to see if I could find anything on it.
You obviously don't have to believe it but I doubt everything that is reported is gossip or untrue
They said at the beginning of the year that there was a virus on the way that could kill a good many people, the naysayers called that gossip and untrue then too
I suppose we will all have to wait and see if a lot is true or not
I saw your link and went to it. TY. But until the story is confirmed it really is still gossip. I think the way to treat the press is have healthy doubt until it's confirmed as true or false by those involved.
As said in my post "You obviously don't have to believe it"
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PS The point of my post was to let you know it isn't just Karen etc on FB who is talking about it
I guess the proof will be in the pudding if she turns up with Van Tam and Harris one day.
If she did refuse to lie ( like Van Tam and Harris )then at least she has some integrity along with the other two mentioned |
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Oh it's all so reminiscent of trumpism, elements of stalinist policies where only those who toe the party line are granted an opportunity to report..
Just have one of the inner cabal flanked by two Churchill type nodding dogs repeating 'oh yes'.. |
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By *exy7Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
First question in the next press conference: When can we expect seeing mr Van Tam again?
This gvt is using all the tricks in the book to escape scrutiny and discredit the media. However 80% of what the Guardian revealed about Cummings was was true. Shutting Parliament was unlawful and the comparisons that we were shown between countries at the start during the press conferences have now been dropped! The fiddling of tests was an interesting manipulation of figures too. And counting a pair of gloves for two items was also disingenuous.
Yet, sone people carry on being brainwashed and refuse to see this gvt for what it really is: a bunch of incompetent liars following Trump’s footsteps. Soon, they will blame the scientists for everything!
In the meantime, keep calm and carry on reading the highly impartial Mail and Express. That’s where the truth is. |
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"Already had one minister try to pin this mess on the scientists. It's coming, don't worry."
There was a piece on the bbc website the other day where some families who have lost someone are calling for an enquiry already |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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In the meantime, keep calm and carry on reading the highly impartial Mail and Express. That’s where the truth is. "
The Truth? Newspapers?
The Daily Mail Rate as LOW because of numerous failed Facts Checks at Media Bias.
The Daily Express only a little better at MIXED and a few poorly checked facts. Also they are into Conspiracy reporting.
That's actually where your problem is. 
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The government would appear more credible if they actually allowed dissent from those experts who disagree with them, rather than giving them the silent treatment. Some of their MPs do it publicly on occasion.
As the USA trade deal gets the UK increasingly subject to all demands, perhaps this US Trump style leadership is a way of breaking the citizens in to full subjugation |
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By *exy7Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
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In the meantime, keep calm and carry on reading the highly impartial Mail and Express. That’s where the truth is.
The Truth? Newspapers?
The Daily Mail Rate as LOW because of numerous failed Facts Checks at Media Bias.
The Daily Express only a little better at MIXED and a few poorly checked facts. Also they are into Conspiracy reporting.
That's actually where your problem is.
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Mmmm, I thought it was obvious my sentence was sarcastic. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
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In the meantime, keep calm and carry on reading the highly impartial Mail and Express. That’s where the truth is.
The Truth? Newspapers?
The Daily Mail Rate as LOW because of numerous failed Facts Checks at Media Bias.
The Daily Express only a little better at MIXED and a few poorly checked facts. Also they are into Conspiracy reporting.
That's actually where your problem is.
Mmmm, I thought it was obvious my sentence was sarcastic. "
Hard to tell really with all the other sarcasm.
But the truth really is - believe NO newspaper until absolutely proven by independant and verifiable no bias sources.
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By *exy7Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
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In the meantime, keep calm and carry on reading the highly impartial Mail and Express. That’s where the truth is.
The Truth? Newspapers?
The Daily Mail Rate as LOW because of numerous failed Facts Checks at Media Bias.
The Daily Express only a little better at MIXED and a few poorly checked facts. Also they are into Conspiracy reporting.
That's actually where your problem is.
Mmmm, I thought it was obvious my sentence was sarcastic.
Hard to tell really with all the other sarcasm.
But the truth really is - believe NO newspaper until absolutely proven by independant and verifiable no bias sources.
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Some papers are far more reliable than others The Mail, the Express, the Mirror and the Sun don’t qualify as newspapers for me. I wouldn’t even use them as toilet paper. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
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Some papers are far more reliable than others The Mail, the Express, the Mirror and the Sun don’t qualify as newspapers for me. I wouldn’t even use them as toilet paper. "
Id rather use loo paper anyways. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"Government censorship, you get the chop if you try to tell the truth or question government policies or decisions or scrutinise their actions.
Same with daily briefings , using a mute button to cut people off from asking questions."
This
Unfortunately that's what modern democracy as come to. |
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By *exy7Man
over a year ago
Bristol |
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Some papers are far more reliable than others The Mail, the Express, the Mirror and the Sun don’t qualify as newspapers for me. I wouldn’t even use them as toilet paper.
Id rather use loo paper anyways. "
I don’t blame you. You’ve got such a nice ass! It deserves quality!  |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke |
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Some papers are far more reliable than others The Mail, the Express, the Mirror and the Sun don’t qualify as newspapers for me. I wouldn’t even use them as toilet paper.
Id rather use loo paper anyways.
I don’t blame you. You’ve got such a nice ass! It deserves quality! "
TY. Nice of you to say. But it needs work ATM. It is in a COVID expansion phase lol. |
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In the meantime, keep calm and carry on reading the highly impartial Mail and Express. That’s where the truth is.
The Truth? Newspapers?
The Daily Mail Rate as LOW because of numerous failed Facts Checks at Media Bias.
The Daily Express only a little better at MIXED and a few poorly checked facts. Also they are into Conspiracy reporting.
That's actually where your problem is.
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I like to get my facts from Private Eye. A much more reliable source of news analysis! |
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