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By *eavenNhell OP Couple
over a year ago
carrbrook stalybridge |
And so it begins! Be vigilant people!
Just to let you know these phone calls are going round.
‘Good morning, I'm calling from the NHS track and trace service. According to our system, you are likely to have been in close proximity to someone who has tested postive for COVID-19. This means that you now need to self-isolate for 7 days and take a COVID-19 test.'
'OK. Can you tell me who that person was?'
'I'm not able to tell you that. That is confidential information.'
'Right. Um... so ....'
'But you do need to be tested within the next 72 hours. So can I just get the best mailing address so that we can send a kit to you?'
'Ok (gives address)'
'Thank you - and I just need to take a payment card so that we can finalise this and send the kit to you.'
'Sorry - a payment card? I though this was all free?'
'No - I'm afraid not. There is a one-off fee of £50 for the kit, and test results. Could you read off the long card number for me, please, when you're ready.'
'No - that's not right. This is part of the NHS so there's no charge.'
'I'm afraid there is. Can you give me the card number please - this is very important, and there are penalties for not complying.'
Puts phone down.
This is how scammers work. And vulnerable people , copy and paste from a mate . |
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"And so it begins! Be vigilant people!
Just to let you know these phone calls are going round.
‘Good morning, I'm calling from the NHS track and trace service. According to our system, you are likely to have been in close proximity to someone who has tested postive for COVID-19. This means that you now need to self-isolate for 7 days and take a COVID-19 test.'
'OK. Can you tell me who that person was?'
'I'm not able to tell you that. That is confidential information.'
'Right. Um... so ....'
'But you do need to be tested within the next 72 hours. So can I just get the best mailing address so that we can send a kit to you?'
'Ok (gives address)'
'Thank you - and I just need to take a payment card so that we can finalise this and send the kit to you.'
'Sorry - a payment card? I though this was all free?'
'No - I'm afraid not. There is a one-off fee of £50 for the kit, and test results. Could you read off the long card number for me, please, when you're ready.'
'No - that's not right. This is part of the NHS so there's no charge.'
'I'm afraid there is. Can you give me the card number please - this is very important, and there are penalties for not complying.'
Puts phone down.
This is how scammers work. And vulnerable people , copy and paste from a mate ."
Yes there should be public service broadcasts to confirm, let your MP and local health authority know it needs stopping immediately |
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get the telephone number used and report it to the telephone preference people and they can get it put out of action.
although my favorite thing to do is see how long I can actually keep them on the line for.
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"Sorry tell the media as well, probably easier and quicker to get the word out"
There was a feature in my daily paper earlier this week on COVID19 related scams.
Additionally, my Bank started putting out warning emails to its customers, warning of these issues.
Just a sad sign of the times that crooks are updating the ways they try to fleece people. |
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By *eroy1000Man
over a year ago
milton keynes |
"And so it begins! Be vigilant people!
Just to let you know these phone calls are going round.
‘Good morning, I'm calling from the NHS track and trace service. According to our system, you are likely to have been in close proximity to someone who has tested postive for COVID-19. This means that you now need to self-isolate for 7 days and take a COVID-19 test.'
'OK. Can you tell me who that person was?'
'I'm not able to tell you that. That is confidential information.'
'Right. Um... so ....'
'But you do need to be tested within the next 72 hours. So can I just get the best mailing address so that we can send a kit to you?'
'Ok (gives address)'
'Thank you - and I just need to take a payment card so that we can finalise this and send the kit to you.'
'Sorry - a payment card? I though this was all free?'
'No - I'm afraid not. There is a one-off fee of £50 for the kit, and test results. Could you read off the long card number for me, please, when you're ready.'
'No - that's not right. This is part of the NHS so there's no charge.'
'I'm afraid there is. Can you give me the card number please - this is very important, and there are penalties for not complying.'
Puts phone down.
This is how scammers work. And vulnerable people , copy and paste from a mate ."
Thanks for the heads up very useful and spreading the word is essential to stopping these vile people |
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The process and communications around it are flawed so it was only a matter of time before the fraudsters capitalised om it.
I think that claiming to be an employee of the NHS when yoh aren't is a criminal offence, so pass the call details and number on to the Police. |
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"The process and communications around it are flawed so it was only a matter of time before the fraudsters capitalised om it.
I think that claiming to be an employee of the NHS when yoh aren't is a criminal offence, so pass the call details and number on to the Police."
In all likelihood the number will be spoofed and untraceable |
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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago
Near Wells |
"Go to Action on Fraud and report it.
Whoops. Change that to Action Fraud.
That's a complete waste of time.
Why is it a waste of time?"
It takes for to get through (pre Covid). Someone eventually answers, you give them all the details and you get a number. That's it, no investigation, no nothing. Not only have you possibly been scammed but you've wasted an hour of your life thinking your doing the right thing. |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"Go to Action on Fraud and report it.
Whoops. Change that to Action Fraud.
That's a complete waste of time.
Why is it a waste of time?
It takes for to get through (pre Covid). Someone eventually answers, you give them all the details and you get a number. That's it, no investigation, no nothing. Not only have you possibly been scammed but you've wasted an hour of your life thinking your doing the right thing. "
But Action Fraud is NOT an investigation unit.
It's developed over the years into a Unit, part of the City of London Police, which started to look at major fraud crime within the financial sectors in the City.
It has developed into one of the world's best regarded as the collation unit of all scams, frauds and so on.
Once they get enough data on specific crimes, they pass it on to the Specialist Squads in various forces across the UK, and act as liaison too with counterpart fraud authorities around the world.
Their work does bring about successful results; the reports they receive do bring down Scammers and Fraudsters across the UK. It's just they don't advertise what they do.
I know how it works, as in 2014, I was targeted by a Scam Gang who tried to extort £35k from me, with appalling threats of violence if I didn't comply.
I reported it to the local Police. Within 2 hours, their Fraud squad were at my side, listening in to the crooks on their next call.
I followed Police advice, then Action Fraud took over, but my local police kept me informed and told me what Action Fraud do.
Six months later, I was told the data collated by A.F. had helped the Serious Fraud Squad launch raids on scam gangs across the UK, netting 20+ crooks, plus computers, drives etc containing over 500,000 names. My name and details were included. The gang ended up getting at least 25 years each.
A.F. does work, but it is behind the scenes. |
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I so hope they ring me. I've been known to keep these types of jokers on the phone for over an hour. Someone rang a couple of days ago about utilities. I said I wasn't on mains electricity as I run a generator. So they asked me about gas, I told them I but propane. Water? I told them I had a well and a septic tank.
Someone rang about the phone once, I told them I didn't have one. "Well how are you speaking to me then?" they asked, I replied, "I'm not, you're imagining it".
I know they are "only doing their job", if they were that good at it, they would suss me out as an awkward get after the first minute. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"get the telephone number used and report it to the telephone preference people and they can get it put out of action.
although my favorite thing to do is see how long I can actually keep them on the line for.
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 longest ive managed to keep one of the our records show you have been in an accident mob on the line is just under 20mins |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"get the telephone number used and report it to the telephone preference people and they can get it put out of action.
although my favorite thing to do is see how long I can actually keep them on the line for.
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My favourite passtime if bored and not busy (as many of us are). Kept one of the "problem with your router" calls on for 19 minutes the other day...speaking to 3 different people. Saved several other peeps from gettin a call....so result! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Go to Action on Fraud and report it.
Whoops. Change that to Action Fraud.
That's a complete waste of time.
Why is it a waste of time?
It takes for to get through (pre Covid). Someone eventually answers, you give them all the details and you get a number. That's it, no investigation, no nothing. Not only have you possibly been scammed but you've wasted an hour of your life thinking your doing the right thing.
But Action Fraud is NOT an investigation unit.
It's developed over the years into a Unit, part of the City of London Police, which started to look at major fraud crime within the financial sectors in the City.
It has developed into one of the world's best regarded as the collation unit of all scams, frauds and so on.
Once they get enough data on specific crimes, they pass it on to the Specialist Squads in various forces across the UK, and act as liaison too with counterpart fraud authorities around the world.
Their work does bring about successful results; the reports they receive do bring down Scammers and Fraudsters across the UK. It's just they don't advertise what they do.
I know how it works, as in 2014, I was targeted by a Scam Gang who tried to extort £35k from me, with appalling threats of violence if I didn't comply.
I reported it to the local Police. Within 2 hours, their Fraud squad were at my side, listening in to the crooks on their next call.
I followed Police advice, then Action Fraud took over, but my local police kept me informed and told me what Action Fraud do.
Six months later, I was told the data collated by A.F. had helped the Serious Fraud Squad launch raids on scam gangs across the UK, netting 20+ crooks, plus computers, drives etc containing over 500,000 names. My name and details were included. The gang ended up getting at least 25 years each.
A.F. does work, but it is behind the scenes."
That's lucky they were UK based. Majority of online/phone based scams are in central African countries using hijacked numbers. |
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"get the telephone number used and report it to the telephone preference people and they can get it put out of action.
although my favorite thing to do is see how long I can actually keep them on the line for.
longest ive managed to keep one of the our records show you have been in an accident mob on the line is just under 20mins"
I kept an ambulance chaser on the line for almost an hour during my lunchbreak at work. He refused to admit that he wanted me to commit an act of fraud, when i told him that a cracked rear light when reversing into someone very slowly did not cause any personal injuries. He kept telling me how insurance companies had set aside money from the accident, just on case of injuries. I ground him down and he eventually said he saw himself as a Robin Hood figure who was only taking money from insurance companies who were robbing us blind. He gave up and rang off eventually. I never put the phone down on them, its too entertaining.  |
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Loads of scams coming from this. Although they are not allowed to tell you who gave them the contact details, so they can't tell you who has put you down as being within close contact in the time period. You should be able to work it out thigh if one of your friends or colleagues come down with coronavirus, it would be obvious and if they are any friend they should let you know anyway. As of yet it's not against the law to not self isolate if contacted, so what's the point, people will just not do it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Line all scams as soon as they mention payments of any kind I just hang up the phone, but if I’m in a devilish mood I say hang on I will just get my card and then I come back 10 mins later just to see if they are still there  
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And so it begins! Be vigilant people!
Just to let you know these phone calls are going round.
‘Good morning, I'm calling from the NHS track and trace service. According to our system, you are likely to have been in close proximity to someone who has tested postive for COVID-19. This means that you now need to self-isolate for 7 days and take a COVID-19 test.'
'OK. Can you tell me who that person was?'
'I'm not able to tell you that. That is confidential information.'
'Right. Um... so ....'
'But you do need to be tested within the next 72 hours. So can I just get the best mailing address so that we can send a kit to you?'
'Ok (gives address)'
'Thank you - and I just need to take a payment card so that we can finalise this and send the kit to you.'
'Sorry - a payment card? I though this was all free?'
'No - I'm afraid not. There is a one-off fee of £50 for the kit, and test results. Could you read off the long card number for me, please, when you're ready.'
'No - that's not right. This is part of the NHS so there's no charge.'
'I'm afraid there is. Can you give me the card number please - this is very important, and there are penalties for not complying.'
Puts phone down.
This is how scammers work. And vulnerable people , copy and paste from a mate ."
What a bunch of wankers |
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By *Wman15Man
over a year ago
Altrincham |
"Use Action Fraud and then report the phone number to the Information Commissioners Office ICO, who take action against spam calls, texts etc. "
It is often possible to do a reverse look up on the number (if it's a UK number) to see who owns it (e.g. BT) and report directly to them
I always ask for bank details pretending that I don't have a payment card and then do a reverse look up on the sort code to find the bank. The bank then will generally suspend the account |
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