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"So the hospitality industry is pushing for social distancing of 1 metre. Now I understand they are struggling and I get a little where they are coming from but...is it really advisable to rush into this at this stage. Your thoughts" 3m is a more sensible option i mean do you want to die for your food | |||
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"So the hospitality industry is pushing for social distancing of 1 metre. Now I understand they are struggling and I get a little where they are coming from but...is it really advisable to rush into this at this stage. Your thoughts3m is a more sensible option i mean do you want to die for your food " Good point! ... and it wouldn't even be because of gluttony! | |||
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"So the hospitality industry is pushing for social distancing of 1 metre. Now I understand they are struggling and I get a little where they are coming from but...is it really advisable to rush into this at this stage. Your thoughts3m is a more sensible option i mean do you want to die for your food Good point! ... and it wouldn't even be because of gluttony! " trueit would be because of distance | |||
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"1m is absolutely fine. I’m surprised they are not doing temp checks though, it’s very common in other countries. Also if food is served they will have a proper testing system of staff in place before I’ll eat there " nope no testing the food will be cold its fcuk it and see | |||
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"How about 0 metres, I'm old enough to remember when they said lockdown was for hospital capacity and to flattern the curve. Life has risk,always has and always will. its time to get back to normal, NOT THE NEW NORMAL. " Tbh I’m happy with 0.5m it will stop coughs and colds and COVID-19. Wouldn’t ever want to go back to zero , health has become an asset in 2020 | |||
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"1m is absolutely fine. I’m surprised they are not doing temp checks though, it’s very common in other countries. Also if food is served they will have a proper testing system of staff in place before I’ll eat there nope no testing the food will be cold its fcuk it and see " The restaurants I’ll eat in will test staff | |||
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"Happy to go to one metre. If anything tbh" All this talk of having to stay 2 metres apart makes me nervous....when can I go back to my customary 5 m? | |||
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"Studies show that the M2 needed are a valuable method of evaluation, based on how people move. It's not as if we're unpacked from sealed boxes and put at the table seats, until packed away again. I think they're planning barriers between tables too. We're rushing in to this, so must be cautious. 2m is reasonable to start with and to monitor things, with potential reductions after a month or so, if it is shown not to be causing increases in R" That's my thoughts too | |||
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"Happy to go to one metre. If anything tbh All this talk of having to stay 2 metres apart makes me nervous....when can I go back to my customary 5 m?" Ha ha | |||
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"So the hospitality industry is pushing for social distancing of 1 metre. Now I understand they are struggling and I get a little where they are coming from but...is it really advisable to rush into this at this stage. Your thoughts" Ridiculous as if covid know the difference between 1 or 2 metres lol | |||
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"So the hospitality industry is pushing for social distancing of 1 metre. Now I understand they are struggling and I get a little where they are coming from but...is it really advisable to rush into this at this stage. Your thoughts" They probably need it to be at 1m to allow for sitting opposite each other at tables | |||
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"I'm guessing that most folks on this thread won't ever again be attending a music _estival or even a smaller gig then, unless a vaccine is available, which it probably won't. Gonna be a lot of re sale tickets, maybe I'll be able to get my hands on sold out killers ticket from a social distance forever warrior who is to scared to go, no thought not " Or maybe athe world has rapidly changed and things we used to do...will no longer be permissible. Not everyone is commenting on their emotion you can use logic too | |||
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"I'm guessing that most folks on this thread won't ever again be attending a music _estival or even a smaller gig then, unless a vaccine is available, which it probably won't. Gonna be a lot of re sale tickets, maybe I'll be able to get my hands on sold out killers ticket from a social distance forever warrior who is to scared to go, no thought not " We were supposed to see the killers last Friday. Tickets are valid for next year now | |||
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"Be interesting to see if there is a spike after these demo`s. If there isn't, then that must make an argument for scrapping it altogether. At the moment, we queue at 2m to enter a shop, then rub shoulders with others in side, and the numbers are still dropping." It's confusing. No spike after the first bank holiday groups on beaches. Or nothing reported anyway. | |||
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"Studies show that the M2 needed are a valuable method of evaluation, based on how people move. It's not as if we're unpacked from sealed boxes and put at the table seats, until packed away again. I think they're planning barriers between tables too. We're rushing in to this, so must be cautious. 2m is reasonable to start with and to monitor things, with potential reductions after a month or so, if it is shown not to be causing increases in R" | |||
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"The fact that most places say two metres or 6 feet makes a mockery of it anyway. 6 foot is 183cm. " Remind me how many of Boris's fridge widths is this? | |||
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"So the hospitality industry is pushing for social distancing of 1 metre. Now I understand they are struggling and I get a little where they are coming from but...is it really advisable to rush into this at this stage. Your thoughts" WHO recommendation, 2 metres is what scientists told our government to recommend. | |||
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"It doesn't make any difference if you are 1m or 2m apart if you are in an enclosed room and someone sneezes, I'll stick to takeaways." Maybe someone making your takeaway coughs or sneezes eh | |||
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"I think in Germany it's 2.5 metres. They're not doing too shabbily. " Germany is actually 1.5 metres according to there latest guidance. | |||
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"I think whatever distance is advised, people will always naturally end up closer unless they are really paying attention, it's easy and natural to move closer without realising when talking to someone. At least 2m is a far enough distance that you have to consciously think about it, whereas 1m is close enough to a normal conversational distance that I suspect people would easily forget and just drift into 'normal' mode. " I'm with you on that one as people will always push the limits and if the bar is set at 2 metres it has a chance. I just think as it's coming down now it's best not to change things for another few weeks | |||
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"Be interesting to see if there is a spike after these demo`s. If there isn't, then that must make an argument for scrapping it altogether. At the moment, we queue at 2m to enter a shop, then rub shoulders with others in side, and the numbers are still dropping." This | |||
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"I would say that standing 1 metre from someone else is standard distance most of is talk to each other before all the shite started, so if it's 1 meter then basically we're all back to normal any closer than that I'd say whoever you're talking to is invading your personal space!! " Doesn't make a lot of difference inside but no reason why people can it sit back to back at much less than 2m and 1 or 2 m when facing each other outdoors that would allow tables to be closer to each other like you can't really cough out of the back of your head | |||
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"I don't think many countries are using 2 m anymore, time to start moving on. " I agree x | |||
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"I would say that standing 1 metre from someone else is standard distance most of is talk to each other before all the shite started, so if it's 1 meter then basically we're all back to normal any closer than that I'd say whoever you're talking to is invading your personal space!! Doesn't make a lot of difference inside but no reason why people can it sit back to back at much less than 2m and 1 or 2 m when facing each other outdoors that would allow tables to be closer to each other like you can't really cough out of the back of your head " Not wanting to teach a granny how suck eggs but I'm assuming that you know the virus is airborne and goes in any direction, so sitting back to back wouldn't make an ounce of difference..also I refer to my previous comments about the staff having to handle a customer's spit covered utensils, glasses, cups and spit covered napkins etc, there is literally zero thought as to how the staff can staff and how we could even possibly serve you food without coming within a few inches of space. | |||
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"How about 0 metres, I'm old enough to remember when they said lockdown was for hospital capacity and to flattern the curve. Life has risk,always has and always will. its time to get back to normal, NOT THE NEW NORMAL. " Agree | |||
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"I would say that standing 1 metre from someone else is standard distance most of is talk to each other before all the shite started, so if it's 1 meter then basically we're all back to normal any closer than that I'd say whoever you're talking to is invading your personal space!! Doesn't make a lot of difference inside but no reason why people can it sit back to back at much less than 2m and 1 or 2 m when facing each other outdoors that would allow tables to be closer to each other like you can't really cough out of the back of your head Not wanting to teach a granny how suck eggs but I'm assuming that you know the virus is airborne and goes in any direction, so sitting back to back wouldn't make an ounce of difference..also I refer to my previous comments about the staff having to handle a customer's spit covered utensils, glasses, cups and spit covered napkins etc, there is literally zero thought as to how the staff can staff and how we could even possibly serve you food without coming within a few inches of space. " Hi Granny. Of course the virus is airborne, and outdoors it disperses extremely quickly so unless there's a mouth as well as eyes in the back of people's heads it's much safer 0m behind than 2m in front. And if it's a short duration it applies inside as well. Think about it Btw what's the difference being served in bar / restaurant than a take away ? Both involve handling and serving | |||
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"I don't think many countries are using 2 m anymore, time to start moving on. " I think we are 1 of just 3 countries (if you count USA at 6') who are at 2m. Germany 1.5, most of rest of Europe at 1m. I think Spain are/were 2m? WHO experts say 1m is fine but our SAGE "experts" are saying 2m but not releasing the "science" it's based on. Pubs etc. Can't operate at 2m so unless it changes they will stay shut....many for ever? | |||
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"I don't think many countries are using 2 m anymore, time to start moving on. I think we are 1 of just 3 countries (if you count USA at 6') who are at 2m. Germany 1.5, most of rest of Europe at 1m. I think Spain are/were 2m? WHO experts say 1m is fine but our SAGE "experts" are saying 2m but not releasing the "science" it's based on. Pubs etc. Can't operate at 2m so unless it changes they will stay shut....many for ever?" The science it is based on, is a study from the 1930`s that measured how far a cough or sneeze will travel, before falling to the ground. | |||
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"How about 0 metres, I'm old enough to remember when they said lockdown was for hospital capacity and to flattern the curve. Life has risk,always has and always will. its time to get back to normal, NOT THE NEW NORMAL. " Life has risks but it doesn’t mean that we should take more risks because life is risky. Would you go bareback with somebody you have never met because life has risks. Watch your right, there’s hardly any room left... I | |||
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"I don't think many countries are using 2 m anymore, time to start moving on. I think we are 1 of just 3 countries (if you count USA at 6') who are at 2m. Germany 1.5, most of rest of Europe at 1m. I think Spain are/were 2m? WHO experts say 1m is fine but our SAGE "experts" are saying 2m but not releasing the "science" it's based on. Pubs etc. Can't operate at 2m so unless it changes they will stay shut....many for ever? The science it is based on, is a study from the 1930`s that measured how far a cough or sneeze will travel, before falling to the ground." It also begs the questin exactly how many people are out and about couching and sneezing. I now try and fart to cover a cough. | |||
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"I don't think many countries are using 2 m anymore, time to start moving on. I think we are 1 of just 3 countries (if you count USA at 6') who are at 2m. Germany 1.5, most of rest of Europe at 1m. I think Spain are/were 2m? WHO experts say 1m is fine but our SAGE "experts" are saying 2m but not releasing the "science" it's based on. Pubs etc. Can't operate at 2m so unless it changes they will stay shut....many for ever? The science it is based on, is a study from the 1930`s that measured how far a cough or sneeze will travel, before falling to the ground. It also begs the questin exactly how many people are out and about couching and sneezing. I now try and fart to cover a cough. " Several people have publically stated on here that if they catch the virus they will not isolate as they won't accept sick pay and will continue to travel and to work | |||
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"Fauci changes tune, now says second COVID-19 wave may never happen — and mask-wearing is symbolic " That's because he a is a man of science who is updating his (opinion) on a brand new evolving virus and situation. Unlike a politician who dogmaticaly sticks to one doctrine and ideology. Wether it's right or wrong. Because they can't loose face and be questioned. Its 2020 time to accept no one person or system has all the answers to life. | |||
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"I would say that standing 1 metre from someone else is standard distance most of is talk to each other before all the shite started, so if it's 1 meter then basically we're all back to normal any closer than that I'd say whoever you're talking to is invading your personal space!! Doesn't make a lot of difference inside but no reason why people can it sit back to back at much less than 2m and 1 or 2 m when facing each other outdoors that would allow tables to be closer to each other like you can't really cough out of the back of your head Not wanting to teach a granny how suck eggs but I'm assuming that you know the virus is airborne and goes in any direction, so sitting back to back wouldn't make an ounce of difference..also I refer to my previous comments about the staff having to handle a customer's spit covered utensils, glasses, cups and spit covered napkins etc, there is literally zero thought as to how the staff can staff and how we could even possibly serve you food without coming within a few inches of space. Hi Granny. Of course the virus is airborne, and outdoors it disperses extremely quickly so unless there's a mouth as well as eyes in the back of people's heads it's much safer 0m behind than 2m in front. And if it's a short duration it applies inside as well. Think about it Btw what's the difference being served in bar / restaurant than a take away ? Both involve handling and serving " When people talk, cough, sneeze etc the virus obviously comes out so your suggestion of sitting back to back wouldn't work unless there is absolutely zero wind movement, and if it they decide to open indoor venues then the virus doesn't decrease for sometime (science based info) You talk of a short duration ?? Do you go to a pub or restaurant and only stay for maximum of 15 mins ? I'd say probably not!! I work in this industry and have which I believe a lot of knowledge on how restaurants work and it really isn't going to work, as I said before say I pour you a drink or make you some food, one of my staff has to deliver it to your table indoors or outdoors you eat with a knife and fork, your spit is over the objects who've used then I or a other person has to handle said objects then without even thinking about it picks up another plate or glass and pours you another drink it doesn't matter how much training you've had mistakes happen and I could potentially pass that viral load on to you. I understand the risk is low but it could happen!! Take away is slightly better because you are taking your spit covered items away with you so less chance of cross contamination and you're not sitting with or within the area where each member of my team will have to work for 8-10 hrs at a time. I will always stand by my views because as I said I work in restaurants and it really isn't doable, not yet anyway. Also on a side note the MPs don't want to be in work because of the 2 meter rule and they may spread it so why should we be put a risk and not them. We work when they all work less than 2 metres and back at hoc | |||
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"I would say that standing 1 metre from someone else is standard distance most of is talk to each other before all the shite started, so if it's 1 meter then basically we're all back to normal any closer than that I'd say whoever you're talking to is invading your personal space!! Doesn't make a lot of difference inside but no reason why people can it sit back to back at much less than 2m and 1 or 2 m when facing each other outdoors that would allow tables to be closer to each other like you can't really cough out of the back of your head Not wanting to teach a granny how suck eggs but I'm assuming that you know the virus is airborne and goes in any direction, so sitting back to back wouldn't make an ounce of difference..also I refer to my previous comments about the staff having to handle a customer's spit covered utensils, glasses, cups and spit covered napkins etc, there is literally zero thought as to how the staff can staff and how we could even possibly serve you food without coming within a few inches of space. Hi Granny. Of course the virus is airborne, and outdoors it disperses extremely quickly so unless there's a mouth as well as eyes in the back of people's heads it's much safer 0m behind than 2m in front. And if it's a short duration it applies inside as well. Think about it Btw what's the difference being served in bar / restaurant than a take away ? Both involve handling and serving When people talk, cough, sneeze etc the virus obviously comes out so your suggestion of sitting back to back wouldn't work unless there is absolutely zero wind movement, and if it they decide to open indoor venues then the virus doesn't decrease for sometime (science based info) You talk of a short duration ?? Do you go to a pub or restaurant and only stay for maximum of 15 mins ? I'd say probably not!! I work in this industry and have which I believe a lot of knowledge on how restaurants work and it really isn't going to work, as I said before say I pour you a drink or make you some food, one of my staff has to deliver it to your table indoors or outdoors you eat with a knife and fork, your spit is over the objects who've used then I or a other person has to handle said objects then without even thinking about it picks up another plate or glass and pours you another drink it doesn't matter how much training you've had mistakes happen and I could potentially pass that viral load on to you. I understand the risk is low but it could happen!! Take away is slightly better because you are taking your spit covered items away with you so less chance of cross contamination and you're not sitting with or within the area where each member of my team will have to work for 8-10 hrs at a time. I will always stand by my views because as I said I work in restaurants and it really isn't doable, not yet anyway. Also on a side note the MPs don't want to be in work because of the 2 meter rule and they may spread it so why should we be put a risk and not them. We work when they all work less than 2 metres and back at hoc " You're way overthinking it. You need to lock yourself awaw for a few years and the rest of us will enjoy reality | |||
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"I would say that standing 1 metre from someone else is standard distance most of is talk to each other before all the shite started, so if it's 1 meter then basically we're all back to normal any closer than that I'd say whoever you're talking to is invading your personal space!! Doesn't make a lot of difference inside but no reason why people can it sit back to back at much less than 2m and 1 or 2 m when facing each other outdoors that would allow tables to be closer to each other like you can't really cough out of the back of your head Not wanting to teach a granny how suck eggs but I'm assuming that you know the virus is airborne and goes in any direction, so sitting back to back wouldn't make an ounce of difference..also I refer to my previous comments about the staff having to handle a customer's spit covered utensils, glasses, cups and spit covered napkins etc, there is literally zero thought as to how the staff can staff and how we could even possibly serve you food without coming within a few inches of space. Hi Granny. Of course the virus is airborne, and outdoors it disperses extremely quickly so unless there's a mouth as well as eyes in the back of people's heads it's much safer 0m behind than 2m in front. And if it's a short duration it applies inside as well. Think about it Btw what's the difference being served in bar / restaurant than a take away ? Both involve handling and serving When people talk, cough, sneeze etc the virus obviously comes out so your suggestion of sitting back to back wouldn't work unless there is absolutely zero wind movement, and if it they decide to open indoor venues then the virus doesn't decrease for sometime (science based info) You talk of a short duration ?? Do you go to a pub or restaurant and only stay for maximum of 15 mins ? I'd say probably not!! I work in this industry and have which I believe a lot of knowledge on how restaurants work and it really isn't going to work, as I said before say I pour you a drink or make you some food, one of my staff has to deliver it to your table indoors or outdoors you eat with a knife and fork, your spit is over the objects who've used then I or a other person has to handle said objects then without even thinking about it picks up another plate or glass and pours you another drink it doesn't matter how much training you've had mistakes happen and I could potentially pass that viral load on to you. I understand the risk is low but it could happen!! Take away is slightly better because you are taking your spit covered items away with you so less chance of cross contamination and you're not sitting with or within the area where each member of my team will have to work for 8-10 hrs at a time. I will always stand by my views because as I said I work in restaurants and it really isn't doable, not yet anyway. Also on a side note the MPs don't want to be in work because of the 2 meter rule and they may spread it so why should we be put a risk and not them. We work when they all work less than 2 metres and back at hoc You're way overthinking it. You need to lock yourself awaw for a few years and the rest of us will enjoy reality " And read what I put. It says OUTSIDE | |||
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"So the hospitality industry is pushing for social distancing of 1 metre. Now I understand they are struggling and I get a little where they are coming from but...is it really advisable to rush into this at this stage. Your thoughts" Open any medical textbook at the virus page and see that when you exhale particles can travel beyond 2m and stay in air for minutes depending on place wind etc. A sneezed particle travels up to 4m. They are pushing So they can rsume business ans the government seeks to minimize bankruptcy.. The reality is that it will remain unsafe until we have some cure or application. Axel | |||
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"I would say that standing 1 metre from someone else is standard distance most of is talk to each other before all the shite started, so if it's 1 meter then basically we're all back to normal any closer than that I'd say whoever you're talking to is invading your personal space!! Doesn't make a lot of difference inside but no reason why people can it sit back to back at much less than 2m and 1 or 2 m when facing each other outdoors that would allow tables to be closer to each other like you can't really cough out of the back of your head Not wanting to teach a granny how suck eggs but I'm assuming that you know the virus is airborne and goes in any direction, so sitting back to back wouldn't make an ounce of difference..also I refer to my previous comments about the staff having to handle a customer's spit covered utensils, glasses, cups and spit covered napkins etc, there is literally zero thought as to how the staff can staff and how we could even possibly serve you food without coming within a few inches of space. Hi Granny. Of course the virus is airborne, and outdoors it disperses extremely quickly so unless there's a mouth as well as eyes in the back of people's heads it's much safer 0m behind than 2m in front. And if it's a short duration it applies inside as well. Think about it Btw what's the difference being served in bar / restaurant than a take away ? Both involve handling and serving When people talk, cough, sneeze etc the virus obviously comes out so your suggestion of sitting back to back wouldn't work unless there is absolutely zero wind movement, and if it they decide to open indoor venues then the virus doesn't decrease for sometime (science based info) You talk of a short duration ?? Do you go to a pub or restaurant and only stay for maximum of 15 mins ? I'd say probably not!! I work in this industry and have which I believe a lot of knowledge on how restaurants work and it really isn't going to work, as I said before say I pour you a drink or make you some food, one of my staff has to deliver it to your table indoors or outdoors you eat with a knife and fork, your spit is over the objects who've used then I or a other person has to handle said objects then without even thinking about it picks up another plate or glass and pours you another drink it doesn't matter how much training you've had mistakes happen and I could potentially pass that viral load on to you. I understand the risk is low but it could happen!! Take away is slightly better because you are taking your spit covered items away with you so less chance of cross contamination and you're not sitting with or within the area where each member of my team will have to work for 8-10 hrs at a time. I will always stand by my views because as I said I work in restaurants and it really isn't doable, not yet anyway. Also on a side note the MPs don't want to be in work because of the 2 meter rule and they may spread it so why should we be put a risk and not them. We work when they all work less than 2 metres and back at hoc " I think you better go for a career change. | |||
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"Is social distance in gone to fuck now with all the protesting going on. " It will be interesting to see if the contamination rates go up! | |||
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"So the hospitality industry is pushing for social distancing of 1 metre. Now I understand they are struggling and I get a little where they are coming from but...is it really advisable to rush into this at this stage. Your thoughts Open any medical textbook at the virus page and see that when you exhale particles can travel beyond 2m and stay in air for minutes depending on place wind etc. A sneezed particle travels up to 4m. They are pushing So they can rsume business ans the government seeks to minimize bankruptcy.. The reality is that it will remain unsafe until we have some cure or application. Axel" Thank you for this as it really does explain my thoughts on here too. | |||
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"I would say that standing 1 metre from someone else is standard distance most of is talk to each other before all the shite started, so if it's 1 meter then basically we're all back to normal any closer than that I'd say whoever you're talking to is invading your personal space!! Doesn't make a lot of difference inside but no reason why people can it sit back to back at much less than 2m and 1 or 2 m when facing each other outdoors that would allow tables to be closer to each other like you can't really cough out of the back of your head Not wanting to teach a granny how suck eggs but I'm assuming that you know the virus is airborne and goes in any direction, so sitting back to back wouldn't make an ounce of difference..also I refer to my previous comments about the staff having to handle a customer's spit covered utensils, glasses, cups and spit covered napkins etc, there is literally zero thought as to how the staff can staff and how we could even possibly serve you food without coming within a few inches of space. Hi Granny. Of course the virus is airborne, and outdoors it disperses extremely quickly so unless there's a mouth as well as eyes in the back of people's heads it's much safer 0m behind than 2m in front. And if it's a short duration it applies inside as well. Think about it Btw what's the difference being served in bar / restaurant than a take away ? Both involve handling and serving When people talk, cough, sneeze etc the virus obviously comes out so your suggestion of sitting back to back wouldn't work unless there is absolutely zero wind movement, and if it they decide to open indoor venues then the virus doesn't decrease for sometime (science based info) You talk of a short duration ?? Do you go to a pub or restaurant and only stay for maximum of 15 mins ? I'd say probably not!! I work in this industry and have which I believe a lot of knowledge on how restaurants work and it really isn't going to work, as I said before say I pour you a drink or make you some food, one of my staff has to deliver it to your table indoors or outdoors you eat with a knife and fork, your spit is over the objects who've used then I or a other person has to handle said objects then without even thinking about it picks up another plate or glass and pours you another drink it doesn't matter how much training you've had mistakes happen and I could potentially pass that viral load on to you. I understand the risk is low but it could happen!! Take away is slightly better because you are taking your spit covered items away with you so less chance of cross contamination and you're not sitting with or within the area where each member of my team will have to work for 8-10 hrs at a time. I will always stand by my views because as I said I work in restaurants and it really isn't doable, not yet anyway. Also on a side note the MPs don't want to be in work because of the 2 meter rule and they may spread it so why should we be put a risk and not them. We work when they all work less than 2 metres and back at hoc I think you better go for a career change." Ok mate I'll do that I'll do what you think is correct because you clearly are in the knowledge with Karen from Facebook | |||
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"I would say that standing 1 metre from someone else is standard distance most of is talk to each other before all the shite started, so if it's 1 meter then basically we're all back to normal any closer than that I'd say whoever you're talking to is invading your personal space!! Doesn't make a lot of difference inside but no reason why people can it sit back to back at much less than 2m and 1 or 2 m when facing each other outdoors that would allow tables to be closer to each other like you can't really cough out of the back of your head Not wanting to teach a granny how suck eggs but I'm assuming that you know the virus is airborne and goes in any direction, so sitting back to back wouldn't make an ounce of difference..also I refer to my previous comments about the staff having to handle a customer's spit covered utensils, glasses, cups and spit covered napkins etc, there is literally zero thought as to how the staff can staff and how we could even possibly serve you food without coming within a few inches of space. Hi Granny. Of course the virus is airborne, and outdoors it disperses extremely quickly so unless there's a mouth as well as eyes in the back of people's heads it's much safer 0m behind than 2m in front. And if it's a short duration it applies inside as well. Think about it Btw what's the difference being served in bar / restaurant than a take away ? Both involve handling and serving When people talk, cough, sneeze etc the virus obviously comes out so your suggestion of sitting back to back wouldn't work unless there is absolutely zero wind movement, and if it they decide to open indoor venues then the virus doesn't decrease for sometime (science based info) You talk of a short duration ?? Do you go to a pub or restaurant and only stay for maximum of 15 mins ? I'd say probably not!! I work in this industry and have which I believe a lot of knowledge on how restaurants work and it really isn't going to work, as I said before say I pour you a drink or make you some food, one of my staff has to deliver it to your table indoors or outdoors you eat with a knife and fork, your spit is over the objects who've used then I or a other person has to handle said objects then without even thinking about it picks up another plate or glass and pours you another drink it doesn't matter how much training you've had mistakes happen and I could potentially pass that viral load on to you. I understand the risk is low but it could happen!! Take away is slightly better because you are taking your spit covered items away with you so less chance of cross contamination and you're not sitting with or within the area where each member of my team will have to work for 8-10 hrs at a time. I will always stand by my views because as I said I work in restaurants and it really isn't doable, not yet anyway. Also on a side note the MPs don't want to be in work because of the 2 meter rule and they may spread it so why should we be put a risk and not them. We work when they all work less than 2 metres and back at hoc You're way overthinking it. You need to lock yourself awaw for a few years and the rest of us will enjoy reality And read what I put. It says OUTSIDE" Not about locking myself away etc it's about reality one that I live in and one that has seen a family member pass away because of it so forgive me for being a little bit worried and as for outdoors the information from scientists is based on outdoors (just saying) | |||
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"No point saying anything on here the people don't listen they are still meeting and no one is doing anything about it. They are putting up veris and the site is trying to keep it quiet it's a disgrace. " how can people put veries up... you cant display any meet veries even historic ones.. or ones you had hidden | |||
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"No point saying anything on here the people don't listen they are still meeting and no one is doing anything about it. They are putting up veris and the site is trying to keep it quiet it's a disgrace. how can people put veries up... you cant display any meet veries even historic ones.. or ones you had hidden " Never let the facts get in the way of a good whinge ? | |||
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"We have the non taxpaying Ryan air Michael O'Leary saying distancing will cost him money, it's ok to fly but don't blame him if you get covid you are just a gulable punter. Will you die of covid if you don't get your summer holiday, restaurant meal or pint in pub? All these industries pushing for reduction of restrictions. They only want your money they are not worried about people" well I'm off on two holidays I hope.. I must be a gullible punter.. after all my hard work for planning a few days away travelling x | |||
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"We have the non taxpaying Ryan air Michael O'Leary saying distancing will cost him money, it's ok to fly but don't blame him if you get covid you are just a gulable punter. Will you die of covid if you don't get your summer holiday, restaurant meal or pint in pub? All these industries pushing for reduction of restrictions. They only want your money they are not worried about people well I'm off on two holidays I hope.. I must be a gullible punter.. after all my hard work for planning a few days away travelling x " Enjoy .. we have a while to wait yet .. | |||
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"To be fair all flights are expecting you to wear masks and doing extra things. I've flown ryan air lots and never had an issue. Perhaps the Italian air staff are just great " Enjoy your holidays when they arrive. Be safe. You have so far. | |||
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"To be fair all flights are expecting you to wear masks and doing extra things. I've flown ryan air lots and never had an issue. Perhaps the Italian air staff are just great Enjoy your holidays when they arrive. Be safe. You have so far. " I will and yes.. I've been keeping safe.. worst bit is I'm hoping anxiety doesnt raise my temperature... I am trying to think now if it does .. as I'm terrified of flying lol x | |||
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"To be fair all flights are expecting you to wear masks and doing extra things. I've flown ryan air lots and never had an issue. Perhaps the Italian air staff are just great Enjoy your holidays when they arrive. Be safe. You have so far. I will and yes.. I've been keeping safe.. worst bit is I'm hoping anxiety doesnt raise my temperature... I am trying to think now if it does .. as I'm terrified of flying lol x " Awww - you will have to practice calm. lol | |||
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"We have the non taxpaying Ryan air Michael O'Leary saying distancing will cost him money, it's ok to fly but don't blame him if you get covid you are just a gulable punter. Will you die of covid if you don't get your summer holiday, restaurant meal or pint in pub? All these industries pushing for reduction of restrictions. They only want your money they are not worried about people" Well said well said indeed | |||
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"We have the non taxpaying Ryan air Michael O'Leary saying distancing will cost him money, it's ok to fly but don't blame him if you get covid you are just a gulable punter. Will you die of covid if you don't get your summer holiday, restaurant meal or pint in pub? All these industries pushing for reduction of restrictions. They only want your money they are not worried about people Well said well said indeed " | |||
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"To be fair all flights are expecting you to wear masks and doing extra things. I've flown ryan air lots and never had an issue. Perhaps the Italian air staff are just great Enjoy your holidays when they arrive. Be safe. You have so far. I will and yes.. I've been keeping safe.. worst bit is I'm hoping anxiety doesnt raise my temperature... I am trying to think now if it does .. as I'm terrified of flying lol x Awww - you will have to practice calm. lol" that's what diazepam is for Back on topic though... looks like the sd gap maybe reduced soon x | |||
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"Regardless of whether its 1m or 2m I'm in no rush to go out to a pub or restaurant anyway. " If enough people think like that - there will be none left | |||
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"Regardless of whether its 1m or 2m I'm in no rush to go out to a pub or restaurant anyway. " Agree! If you treat everyone as if they were suffering from Covid then see how far away you keep, more than 2 metres I bet. | |||
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"Regardless of whether its 1m or 2m I'm in no rush to go out to a pub or restaurant anyway. If enough people think like that - there will be none left" And clearly thinking like you means we will have pubs and restaurants but also plenty of jobs in the hospital bed making sector!! Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? I'm sure I'll get the wisdom of Karen said on Facebook. I don't know your job but I'm going to assume you use a phone, would it be acceptable for 50 people to spit on your phone then you pick it up over the course of the day ? I can hear some of you saying wear gloves!! Great....for 8-10 hrs a day I think not. Pubs and restaurants that close are inevitable but putting people at risk because you want a pint ....quite selfish | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? " And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. " I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. | |||
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"So the hospitality industry is pushing for social distancing of 1 metre. Now I understand they are struggling and I get a little where they are coming from but...is it really advisable to rush into this at this stage. Your thoughts" No. Not advisable. But people want their beer, their holidays, their jobs and businesses to start earning again, and to hell with the greater good. Govt are letting themselves get railroaded into rash actions now. It will not end well | |||
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"World health organisation recommended 1m not 2" Wouldn't trust those lot to run a chip shop.. | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. " Can't wait to sit in a bar or restaurant drinking out of disposable plastic and those forks where the prongs keep snapping... Nobody seemed bothered about the pub industry when they were shutting at a rate of knots before the pandemic.. if it sees more shite chains selling shite food close then I won't be weeping for them.. many have rediscovered cooking and long may it continue.. | |||
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"I just had a lovely lunch sitting outside a restaurant in Paris drinking a cold beer from a glass and eating french cuisine with a metal knife and fork on a china plate. Social distancing is 1m here and guess what, nobody died. " Nobody has died in the whole of Paris.. ? Must be the fine claret and soft cheese.. I have heard that injecting yourself with soft cheese staves off Covid | |||
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"I just had a lovely lunch sitting outside a restaurant in Paris drinking a cold beer from a glass and eating french cuisine with a metal knife and fork on a china plate. Social distancing is 1m here and guess what, nobody died. Nobody has died in the whole of Paris.. ? Must be the fine claret and soft cheese.. I have heard that injecting yourself with soft cheese staves off Covid" I presume he meant since they lifted lockdown, but I presume you presumed that too. | |||
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"I just had a lovely lunch sitting outside a restaurant in Paris drinking a cold beer from a glass and eating french cuisine with a metal knife and fork on a china plate. Social distancing is 1m here and guess what, nobody died. " Yet!!! Jesus these people walk amongst us!! | |||
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"I just had a lovely lunch sitting outside a restaurant in Paris drinking a cold beer from a glass and eating french cuisine with a metal knife and fork on a china plate. Social distancing is 1m here and guess what, nobody died. Nobody has died in the whole of Paris.. ? Must be the fine claret and soft cheese.. I have heard that injecting yourself with soft cheese staves off Covid I presume he meant since they lifted lockdown, but I presume you presumed that too." Presumably... | |||
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" I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. " Where does this drivel come from? | |||
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" I just had a lovely lunch sitting outside a restaurant in Paris drinking a cold beer from a glass and eating french cuisine with a metal knife and fork on a china plate. Social distancing is 1m here and guess what, nobody died. " Yet! | |||
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"People need to take responsibility for themselves, use common sense. Too many people wanting a solid rule structure so they can blame someone else if something goes wrong because they won't think for themselves, everything has to be someone else's fault these days it seems. " Yep -that is exactly right !! | |||
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" People need to take responsibility for themselves, use common sense. Too many people wanting a solid rule structure so they can blame someone else if something goes wrong because they won't think for themselves, everything has to be someone else's fault these days it seems. Yep - that is exactly right !! " Couldn't agree more! | |||
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" I just had a lovely lunch sitting outside a restaurant in Paris drinking a cold beer from a glass and eating french cuisine with a metal knife and fork on a china plate. Social distancing is 1m here and guess what, nobody died. Yet!" The infection numbers are still coming down fast in France with 1m distancing and practically everything is open. The UK just seems to be paralysed with fear, or maybe it's just a vocal minority. | |||
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"When out and about, imagine that everyone has Covid, then see how far you maintain your distance. More than 2 metres I suggest. At only 1 metre you may as well be giving them a hug! " A couple of weeks ago they estimated that 1 in 400 currently had the disease in the UK. With the infection rate going down, it will be even less likely that someone you meet will be infected. This is another example of hyperbole. | |||
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"Based on figures: ONS say less than 0.01% of population currently infected. That was as of last week(many of these will/should be isolating or even in hospital etc?) but many are asymptomatic. So lets take 0.1% as those infected. Chance of picking up infection at 1m stated as 2.6% (1.3% at 2m) currently...as at now being given by professor at Cambridge Uni on BBC news. So your chances of picking up virus at 1m is 0.0026%. Curious how that compares to other risks....?" Complete bollocks - this sort of rubbish gets statistics a bad name . Current infection level cannot be conflated with risk of acquiring virus at distance. | |||
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" I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. Where does this drivel come from? " From someone who has worked in the industry for years. Of however you're referring to my stats.....it's called maths and English literature from news reports other than the ones you accept. | |||
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"I'm guessing I don't walk amongst you because you will hiding away until nobody dies of anything ever." No you certainly don't walk amongst me because if you did I'd teach you how to use the English language (you will be hiding). The very fact you have said I've been for lunch and nobody has died here tells me you are not worthy of my opinion. Good day sir | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. " It doesn't matter how much or how little furlough costs, it stopping and it looks like you'll be changing profession if you want to earn a wage as your not going to accept any compromise or do anything to help yourself. Just don't take up anything to do with money if you think putting beer or latte in a plastic cup will increase the costs by a factor of 2 or 3 lol Good luck in whatever you choose to do. | |||
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"We have the non taxpaying Ryan air Michael O'Leary saying distancing will cost him money, it's ok to fly but don't blame him if you get covid you are just a gulable punter. Will you die of covid if you don't get your summer holiday, restaurant meal or pint in pub? All these industries pushing for reduction of restrictions. They only want your money they are not worried about people" thats nothing new all they ever have wanted is your money as soon as u book and pay for ya holiday there usualy booking someone ekse before your out the shop.why do u think they have ever been intrested in people? its a buisness your a walking wallet | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. " So much crap in one post | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. It doesn't matter how much or how little furlough costs, it stopping and it looks like you'll be changing profession if you want to earn a wage as your not going to accept any compromise or do anything to help yourself. Just don't take up anything to do with money if you think putting beer or latte in a plastic cup will increase the costs by a factor of 2 or 3 lol Good luck in whatever you choose to do. " I'm willing to compromise on this I just don't believe we should be compromising on the social distancing at the moment, it's just to early, case numbers are still to high, ONS say there's still approximately 5000 cases per day and every EU country currently think our death rate is too high too, so yes I am willing to compromise but at this moment not so much. Ps you'll be surprised at how much expendable equipment cost and if people aren't coming in there numbers like before it's gonna have a knock on effect, personally speaking you can't have staff cost of nearly £600 per day then have other overhead cost of nearly £w00-£300 per day in other overheads and then only take £800-£1000 if we're lucky, so staff will have to go or for the time being just keep it as it is until the rates and deaths come down more. | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. So much crap in one post" Sarcasm not allowed up north yeah !! Anyway not here to argue, keep taking the pills and good luck to ya | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. So much crap in one post Sarcasm not allowed up north yeah !! Anyway not here to argue, keep taking the pills and good luck to ya " No pills needed here | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. It doesn't matter how much or how little furlough costs, it stopping and it looks like you'll be changing profession if you want to earn a wage as your not going to accept any compromise or do anything to help yourself. Just don't take up anything to do with money if you think putting beer or latte in a plastic cup will increase the costs by a factor of 2 or 3 lol Good luck in whatever you choose to do. I'm willing to compromise on this I just don't believe we should be compromising on the social distancing at the moment, it's just to early, case numbers are still to high, ONS say there's still approximately 5000 cases per day and every EU country currently think our death rate is too high too, so yes I am willing to compromise but at this moment not so much. Ps you'll be surprised at how much expendable equipment cost and if people aren't coming in there numbers like before it's gonna have a knock on effect, personally speaking you can't have staff cost of nearly £600 per day then have other overhead cost of nearly £w00-£300 per day in other overheads and then only take £800-£1000 if we're lucky, so staff will have to go or for the time being just keep it as it is until the rates and deaths come down more. " If you ever decide to buy disposable equipment I'll sell you all you need at your prices, I'll be millionaire next year | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. It doesn't matter how much or how little furlough costs, it stopping and it looks like you'll be changing profession if you want to earn a wage as your not going to accept any compromise or do anything to help yourself. Just don't take up anything to do with money if you think putting beer or latte in a plastic cup will increase the costs by a factor of 2 or 3 lol Good luck in whatever you choose to do. I'm willing to compromise on this I just don't believe we should be compromising on the social distancing at the moment, it's just to early, case numbers are still to high, ONS say there's still approximately 5000 cases per day and every EU country currently think our death rate is too high too, so yes I am willing to compromise but at this moment not so much. Ps you'll be surprised at how much expendable equipment cost and if people aren't coming in there numbers like before it's gonna have a knock on effect, personally speaking you can't have staff cost of nearly £600 per day then have other overhead cost of nearly £w00-£300 per day in other overheads and then only take £800-£1000 if we're lucky, so staff will have to go or for the time being just keep it as it is until the rates and deaths come down more. If you ever decide to buy disposable equipment I'll sell you all you need at your prices, I'll be millionaire next year " Tell ya what we should go into business together, we would make a bloody fortune | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. It doesn't matter how much or how little furlough costs, it stopping and it looks like you'll be changing profession if you want to earn a wage as your not going to accept any compromise or do anything to help yourself. Just don't take up anything to do with money if you think putting beer or latte in a plastic cup will increase the costs by a factor of 2 or 3 lol Good luck in whatever you choose to do. I'm willing to compromise on this I just don't believe we should be compromising on the social distancing at the moment, it's just to early, case numbers are still to high, ONS say there's still approximately 5000 cases per day and every EU country currently think our death rate is too high too, so yes I am willing to compromise but at this moment not so much. Ps you'll be surprised at how much expendable equipment cost and if people aren't coming in there numbers like before it's gonna have a knock on effect, personally speaking you can't have staff cost of nearly £600 per day then have other overhead cost of nearly £w00-£300 per day in other overheads and then only take £800-£1000 if we're lucky, so staff will have to go or for the time being just keep it as it is until the rates and deaths come down more. If you ever decide to buy disposable equipment I'll sell you all you need at your prices, I'll be millionaire next year Tell ya what we should go into business together, we would make a bloody fortune " I might, you won't | |||
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"How about 0 metres, I'm old enough to remember when they said lockdown was for hospital capacity and to flattern the curve. Life has risk,always has and always will. its time to get back to normal, NOT THE NEW NORMAL. " | |||
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"No point saying anything on here the people don't listen they are still meeting and no one is doing anything about it. They are putting up veris and the site is trying to keep it quiet it's a disgrace. " And yet, somehow, the infection numbers and deaths are reducing. How can that be? | |||
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" No point saying anything on here the people don't listen they are still meeting and no one is doing anything about it. They are putting up veris and the site is trying to keep it quiet it's a disgrace. And yet, somehow, the infection numbers and deaths are reducing. How can that be? " The equivalent of a fully loaded airliner are still dying from this virus every day. Those that refuse to social distance are responsible for some of these deaths! | |||
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" No point saying anything on here the people don't listen they are still meeting and no one is doing anything about it. They are putting up veris and the site is trying to keep it quiet it's a disgrace. And yet, somehow, the infection numbers and deaths are reducing. How can that be? The equivalent of a fully loaded airliner are still dying from this virus every day. Those that refuse to social distance are responsible for some of these deaths! " Can you point to an article that shows how people are still getting infected because the experts at the daily briefings haven’t been able to yet. | |||
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"No point saying anything on here the people don't listen they are still meeting and no one is doing anything about it. They are putting up veris and the site is trying to keep it quiet it's a disgrace. And yet, somehow, the infection numbers and deaths are reducing. How can that be? " Not fast enough for my liking, the numbers are far to high still. | |||
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" No point saying anything on here the people don't listen they are still meeting and no one is doing anything about it. They are putting up veris and the site is trying to keep it quiet it's a disgrace. And yet, somehow, the infection numbers and deaths are reducing. How can that be? The equivalent of a fully loaded airliner are still dying from this virus every day. Those that refuse to social distance are responsible for some of these deaths! " You have no way of knowing that | |||
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" No point saying anything on here the people don't listen they are still meeting and no one is doing anything about it. They are putting up veris and the site is trying to keep it quiet it's a disgrace. And yet, somehow, the infection numbers and deaths are reducing. How can that be? The equivalent of a fully loaded airliner are still dying from this virus every day. Those that refuse to social distance are responsible for some of these deaths! " The equivalent of 3 of your fully loaded airliners die of cancer every day, another fully loaded airliner die of heart failure every day, another two airliners full die of flu a day, everyone is going to die of something. | |||
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" Can you point to an article that shows how people are still getting infected because the experts at the daily briefings haven’t been able to yet." What do you mean by 'article'? The statistics on the infection rate are compiled daily and confirmed at the daily briefings. " The equivalent of a fully loaded airliner are still dying from this virus every day. Those that refuse to social distance are responsible for some of these deaths! You have no way of knowing that " It is a scientific fact that this virus is spread by close contact with other people, therefore those that do not practice social distancing will transmit it, cause illness and in a percentage of cases cause death. " The equivalent of 3 of your fully loaded airliners die of cancer every day, another fully loaded airliner die of heart failure every day, another two airliners full die of flu a day, everyone is going to die of something. " So what you're saying is that we should ignore the scientific advice, not social distance and continue to spread the virus until we are all dead? | |||
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" Can you point to an article that shows how people are still getting infected because the experts at the daily briefings haven’t been able to yet. What do you mean by 'article'? The statistics on the infection rate are compiled daily and confirmed at the daily briefings. The equivalent of a fully loaded airliner are still dying from this virus every day. Those that refuse to social distance are responsible for some of these deaths! You have no way of knowing that It is a scientific fact that this virus is spread by close contact with other people, therefore those that do not practice social distancing will transmit it, cause illness and in a percentage of cases cause death. The equivalent of 3 of your fully loaded airliners die of cancer every day, another fully loaded airliner die of heart failure every day, another two airliners full die of flu a day, everyone is going to die of something. So what you're saying is that we should ignore the scientific advice, not social distance and continue to spread the virus until we are all dead? " So if you are tested positive, are you fined because you couldn't have been social distancing? | |||
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" Can you point to an article that shows how people are still getting infected because the experts at the daily briefings haven’t been able to yet. What do you mean by 'article'? The statistics on the infection rate are compiled daily and confirmed at the daily briefings. The equivalent of a fully loaded airliner are still dying from this virus every day. Those that refuse to social distance are responsible for some of these deaths! You have no way of knowing that It is a scientific fact that this virus is spread by close contact with other people, therefore those that do not practice social distancing will transmit it, cause illness and in a percentage of cases cause death" Actually the daily briefings don’t tell you who is getting infected. The majority could be front line workers who are not able to social distance. I don’t know, you don’t know because we are not being told. | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. " Mmmm sounds delightful. I so look forward to the opportunity go out to eat off paper plates with disposable cutlery and drink out of plastic glasses while being served by a gloved and visored waiter. Who in their right mind is that desperate to eat out? | |||
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"So the hospitality industry is pushing for social distancing of 1 metre. Now I understand they are struggling and I get a little where they are coming from but...is it really advisable to rush into this at this stage. Your thoughts3m is a more sensible option i mean do you want to die for your food " 3M? If they are going to chuck your food at you don't order the soup!! | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. Mmmm sounds delightful. I so look forward to the opportunity go out to eat off paper plates with disposable cutlery and drink out of plastic glasses while being served by a gloved and visored waiter. Who in their right mind is that desperate to eat out?" If you saw the queues for McDonald's you'd not make that statement | |||
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"At the risk of sounding cynical, surely the decision on going from 2m to 1m distance will be easy for the Govt. It will be timed to cover up the latest shambles that has been announced rather than linking to scientific evidence." Shambles, what shambles? | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. Mmmm sounds delightful. I so look forward to the opportunity go out to eat off paper plates with disposable cutlery and drink out of plastic glasses while being served by a gloved and visored waiter. Who in their right mind is that desperate to eat out? If you saw the queues for McDonald's you'd not make that statement " Id rather starve than eat McDonalds tbh | |||
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"How about 0 metres, I'm old enough to remember when they said lockdown was for hospital capacity and to flattern the curve. Life has risk,always has and always will. its time to get back to normal, NOT THE NEW NORMAL. Tbh I’m happy with 0.5m it will stop coughs and colds and COVID-19. Wouldn’t ever want to go back to zero , health has become an asset in 2020" Ah, do no more swinging for you then unless you have discovered a new way of swinging keeping a social distance | |||
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" Also as I've said countless times now the glass you are drinking from or the knife and fork your eating from do you wash them yourself or are you expecting the staff members to deal with your spit covered and potentially virus covered objects ?? And of course the restauranteurs with half an ounce of common sense will use disposable plates, cutlery and plastic beer glasses. Staff would wear face coverings or a simple plastic face shield and wash their hands very frequently. Risk minimised job done. Some others should reserve a nice safe spot in their house for the next few years but I'm not sure how they will manage when the furlough money stops. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to bring up the furlough scheme.....you keep getting your news from the BBC or MSN ...... Furlough has only cost the tax payer the same as our foreign aid has for one year. The government has effectively murdered thousands of OAPs in care homes so they are going to save just on their pension over 120 million a year, but you keep talking about the furlough!! You talk of throw away equipment, clearly you don't know the cost of such items and then the cost of removal of said items and in a time where a lot of previous customers won't be returning to the pub/club/restaurant world there is another cost the business will have to swallow, I know how we can pay for it......put your pint of beer or your latte up to £10-£15 seems fair!? Why should the business suffer ? Why should people loose there job ? The consumer should pay. It doesn't matter how much or how little furlough costs, it stopping and it looks like you'll be changing profession if you want to earn a wage as your not going to accept any compromise or do anything to help yourself. Just don't take up anything to do with money if you think putting beer or latte in a plastic cup will increase the costs by a factor of 2 or 3 lol Good luck in whatever you choose to do. I'm willing to compromise on this I just don't believe we should be compromising on the social distancing at the moment, it's just to early, case numbers are still to high, ONS say there's still approximately 5000 cases per day and every EU country currently think our death rate is too high too, so yes I am willing to compromise but at this moment not so much. Ps you'll be surprised at how much expendable equipment cost and if people aren't coming in there numbers like before it's gonna have a knock on effect, personally speaking you can't have staff cost of nearly £600 per day then have other overhead cost of nearly £w00-£300 per day in other overheads and then only take £800-£1000 if we're lucky, so staff will have to go or for the time being just keep it as it is until the rates and deaths come down more. " Do, you actually agreed with the scientific advice to keep 2 metres apart at the start of lock down but you're not prepared to take the updated scientific advice from the same source now that it doesn't suit you? At the start of the year, nobody had heard or could spell epidemiologist, now everyone is one. If the social distancing is reduced, YOU can increase yours to 5 metres as the reduction isn't compulsory or mandatory as are the wearing of FACE COVERINGS (not masks) in anywhere else but public transport but if you feel better wearing a mask, you can do. It's now not against the law to go into a shop or bank wearing a mask | |||
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