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over a year ago
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I would expect front line staff (NHS and care home staff) to be disproportionately affected by C19 and their mortality rate to be higher.
BUT. Sky news said last night 250 NHS/Care staff have now died with covid. (Out of a total workforce of 2.5+ million) which is 0.01%.
In the population generally somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 have died (depends which stats you go on) With a population of 65 million that works out at between 0.06 and 0.09%.
So on those figures frontline staff have 1/6 to 1/9 less chance of dying from this virus....? Seems odd?
Without attracting conspiracy theories....any ideas? |
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"I would expect front line staff (NHS and care home staff) to be disproportionately affected by C19 and their mortality rate to be higher.
BUT. Sky news said last night 250 NHS/Care staff have now died with covid. (Out of a total workforce of 2.5+ million) which is 0.01%.
In the population generally somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 have died (depends which stats you go on) With a population of 65 million that works out at between 0.06 and 0.09%.
So on those figures frontline staff have 1/6 to 1/9 less chance of dying from this virus....? Seems odd?
Without attracting conspiracy theories....any ideas?"
No one over 80 working in nhs...... Drops the score? I think it is going to be impossible to avoid this virus and not safe for the vulnerable until they get a vaccine...... Think the government are well aware and are just managing death.... But can't really make that announcement! |
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From a police officer friend of mine approximately 60% are believed to have been infected, but they only have a 2.5% sickness rate. I guess age and fitness is their friend |
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"From a police officer friend of mine approximately 60% are believed to have been infected, but they only have a 2.5% sickness rate. I guess age and fitness is their friend "
Yes, part of me is tempted to wonder if covid is a pension reducing scheme ! Then I tell myself not to be ridiculous lol the old slow ill are always more vulnerable. I also wonder if certain groups just have a narrower gene pool than others? |
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Do people realise the vaccine they develop will have covid innit to stimulate the immune systems into killing the virus if it works so when you
Line up for yr magic bullet you so desire you will be all choosing to become infected in the hope Yr immune system is good enough to kill the virus
I’m presuming you do ? |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I would expect front line staff (NHS and care home staff) to be disproportionately affected by C19 and their mortality rate to be higher.
BUT. Sky news said last night 250 NHS/Care staff have now died with covid. (Out of a total workforce of 2.5+ million) which is 0.01%.
In the population generally somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 have died (depends which stats you go on) With a population of 65 million that works out at between 0.06 and 0.09%.
So on those figures frontline staff have 1/6 to 1/9 less chance of dying from this virus....? Seems odd?
Without attracting conspiracy theories....any ideas?"
yes Sky news love to make a story bigger than it is |
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Remind me. Do we have a vaccine for the Common Cold yet? Porton Down was working on that 50 years ago. They've been strangely quiet through this whole episode. Is that due to Official Secrets Acts being signed, or another reason/reasons? |
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"Remind me. Do we have a vaccine for the Common Cold yet? Porton Down was working on that 50 years ago. They've been strangely quiet through this whole episode. Is that due to Official Secrets Acts being signed, or another reason/reasons?"
And do we have a vaccine for HIV yet after nearly 40years? Was promised early on in the pandemic. |
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"Remind me. Do we have a vaccine for the Common Cold yet? Porton Down was working on that 50 years ago. They've been strangely quiet through this whole episode. Is that due to Official Secrets Acts being signed, or another reason/reasons?"
This is true and how many become ill
After the flu jab as there immune system struggles to kill the virus Yr doctoroe nurse has kindly injected you
with
We are never told how the many flu jab has killed among the figures and would we line up for it year after year if we knew how many dies because they took the advice of the medical profession who get paid for giving you it
The covid vaccine will be the same
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I reckon it has to do with how good someones immune system are.
Yes covid-19 attacks T cells to try and overpower the immune system and it's quite good at it"
That is right it does that too  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Remind me. Do we have a vaccine for the Common Cold yet? Porton Down was working on that 50 years ago. They've been strangely quiet through this whole episode. Is that due to Official Secrets Acts being signed, or another reason/reasons?
This is true and how many become ill
After the flu jab as there immune system struggles to kill the virus Yr doctoroe nurse has kindly injected you
with
We are never told how the many flu jab has killed among the figures and would we line up for it year after year if we knew how many dies because they took the advice of the medical profession who get paid for giving you it
The covid vaccine will be the same
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Remove children and elderly people from the population and you'll get a different comparispn. Not all stagg, at all times, are without PPE and some are not involved in frequent patient contact, especially those more likely to have infection. NHS staff were also given better access to the limited testing facilities, which potentially improved their access to isolation or treatment. Many NHS staff are also skilled health professionals, affording them greater insight into the problem and health management.
It would be likely better to compare like for like. Employees by age, with similar public contact time with customers, adjusted for demographics etc. |
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"I would expect front line staff (NHS and care home staff) to be disproportionately affected by C19 and their mortality rate to be higher.
BUT. Sky news said last night 250 NHS/Care staff have now died with covid. (Out of a total workforce of 2.5+ million) which is 0.01%.
In the population generally somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 have died (depends which stats you go on) With a population of 65 million that works out at between 0.06 and 0.09%.
So on those figures frontline staff have 1/6 to 1/9 less chance of dying from this virus....? Seems odd?
Without attracting conspiracy theories....any ideas?"
Are there really 2.5+ million people working in the NHS? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I would expect front line staff (NHS and care home staff) to be disproportionately affected by C19 and their mortality rate to be higher.
BUT. Sky news said last night 250 NHS/Care staff have now died with covid. (Out of a total workforce of 2.5+ million) which is 0.01%.
In the population generally somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 have died (depends which stats you go on) With a population of 65 million that works out at between 0.06 and 0.09%.
So on those figures frontline staff have 1/6 to 1/9 less chance of dying from this virus....? Seems odd?
Without attracting conspiracy theories....any ideas?
Are there really 2.5+ million people working in the NHS? "
AND in front line care. |
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"I would expect front line staff (NHS and care home staff) to be disproportionately affected by C19 and their mortality rate to be higher.
BUT. Sky news said last night 250 NHS/Care staff have now died with covid. (Out of a total workforce of 2.5+ million) which is 0.01%.
In the population generally somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 have died (depends which stats you go on) With a population of 65 million that works out at between 0.06 and 0.09%.
So on those figures frontline staff have 1/6 to 1/9 less chance of dying from this virus....? Seems odd?
Without attracting conspiracy theories....any ideas?"
You're overthinking and underanalysing |
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By *69BANMan
over a year ago
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"Remind me. Do we have a vaccine for the Common Cold yet? Porton Down was working on that 50 years ago. They've been strangely quiet through this whole episode. Is that due to Official Secrets Acts being signed, or another reason/reasons?
This is true and how many become ill
After the flu jab as there immune system struggles to kill the virus Yr doctoroe nurse has kindly injected you
with
We are never told how the many flu jab has killed among the figures and would we line up for it year after year if we knew how many dies because they took the advice of the medical profession who get paid for giving you it
The covid vaccine will be the same
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None of what you wrote is remotely correct or true! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Without attracting conspiracy theories....any ideas?
Not every one of NHS staff have come into contact with it, for the ones that did a lot died."
My thoughts exactly, those staff who have come into have been the ones with the best PPE (even if it isn’t the right PPE) hence why the majority of those that have died have come from A&E or ITU |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would expect front line staff (NHS and care home staff) to be disproportionately affected by C19 and their mortality rate to be higher.
BUT. Sky news said last night 250 NHS/Care staff have now died with covid. (Out of a total workforce of 2.5+ million) which is 0.01%.
In the population generally somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 have died (depends which stats you go on) With a population of 65 million that works out at between 0.06 and 0.09%.
So on those figures frontline staff have 1/6 to 1/9 less chance of dying from this virus....? Seems odd?
Without attracting conspiracy theories....any ideas?"
Because they are wearing PPE! |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"I would expect front line staff (NHS and care home staff) to be disproportionately affected by C19 and their mortality rate to be higher"
You don’t understand COVID-19 then. Mortality rate has nothing to do with infection rate |
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"Do people realise the vaccine they develop will have covid innit to stimulate the immune systems into killing the virus if it works so when you
Line up for yr magic bullet you so desire you will be all choosing to become infected in the hope Yr immune system is good enough to kill the virus
I’m presuming you do ?"
That's not actually how they make vaccines these days. Yes, the very first vaccination against smallpox was the cowpox virus, sufficiently similar to smallpox that contracting it would give protection against smallpox, but not remotely as deadly.
These days however a vaccine aims to give the body a flavour of the proteins that make up the virus, allowing immunity to develop, but with a modified or removed RNA core that does not get replicated so does not actually give you the disease.
The vaccines that turn people into zombies are totally the invention of horror movies. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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A lot of nhs have come into contact with it but correct ppe and infection control procedures have helped minimise the effect of death via work related.
But you can as well catch in supermarket than at work with mixing with others and the glove shopping brigade touching everything. |
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By *69BANMan
over a year ago
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"Do people realise the vaccine they develop will have covid innit to stimulate the immune systems into killing the virus if it works so when you
Line up for yr magic bullet you so desire you will be all choosing to become infected in the hope Yr immune system is good enough to kill the virus
I’m presuming you do ?
That's not actually how they make vaccines these days. Yes, the very first vaccination against smallpox was the cowpox virus, sufficiently similar to smallpox that contracting it would give protection against smallpox, but not remotely as deadly.
These days however a vaccine aims to give the body a flavour of the proteins that make up the virus, allowing immunity to develop, but with a modified or removed RNA core that does not get replicated so does not actually give you the disease.
The vaccines that turn people into zombies are totally the invention of horror movies."
Exactly! I mean why all this wait and research for a vaccine if what was needed was just injecting people with the live virus itself *facepalm* |
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The totals include all tiers of management, admin support so I would say of the 2.5 million 1 million are tiers of non front line management and support staff. It is about time the NHS was run by medical professional and not by people who put profit before patients |
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"I would expect front line staff (NHS and care home staff) to be disproportionately affected by C19 and their mortality rate to be higher.
BUT. Sky news said last night 250 NHS/Care staff have now died with covid. (Out of a total workforce of 2.5+ million) which is 0.01%.
In the population generally somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 have died (depends which stats you go on) With a population of 65 million that works out at between 0.06 and 0.09%.
So on those figures frontline staff have 1/6 to 1/9 less chance of dying from this virus....? Seems odd?
Without attracting conspiracy theories....any ideas?"
I’m in this position so a number of things.
Age and Heath, most NHS staff are working age and have good Heath
Procedures, PPE cleaning processes and policy and a high awareness of infection control, my office stinks of bleach and alcohol wipes as we clean it down at least once a day, especially if someone else uses the desk, wards corridors etc even more so.
Immune systems, this one is a guess, but when you work in an environment where you are exposed to all kinds of stuff everyday you must have quite a high degree of immunity to most things so even though this is new quite a lot of staff have only had mild infections. |
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"I would expect front line staff (NHS and care home staff) to be disproportionately affected by C19 and their mortality rate to be higher.
BUT. Sky news said last night 250 NHS/Care staff have now died with covid. (Out of a total workforce of 2.5+ million) which is 0.01%.
In the population generally somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 have died (depends which stats you go on) With a population of 65 million that works out at between 0.06 and 0.09%.
So on those figures frontline staff have 1/6 to 1/9 less chance of dying from this virus....? Seems odd?
Without attracting conspiracy theories....any ideas?"
I suspect there are several key things.
1. If you work around sick people you build a very strong immune system.
2. Health-care professionals do professional standards of personal hygiene.
3. Health-care professionals not only have better quality PPE, they also use it properly.
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