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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The government are thinking of opening pubs in the near future. But other places like zoos and wildlife parks are to remain shut.
Don't see the sense in that at alot of these places are facing crippling debts. But hay as long as we can still go get pissed it's all ok?? |
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"The government are thinking of opening pubs in the near future. But other places like zoos and wildlife parks are to remain shut.
Don't see the sense in that at alot of these places are facing crippling debts. But hay as long as we can still go get pissed it's all ok??"
No point opening them, all the animals will be down the pub lol |
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The alcohol lobby is stronger than the animal one.
Gyms and other fitness places originally were going to be closed for a lot longer then the current plan, but people spoke up and now they 'might' be able to open in July.
So you'll be able to get a pint and a McDonalds, but you can't go to the gym. After it has been said that the bigger youbare, the more likely you are to suffer ill effects. |
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By *hongguyMan
over a year ago
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its all about money but that will be every country think about the billions that the government are pouring into the country to try keep everyone happy but think of the lost revenue of taxes etc its a no win situation for the gov slowly have us die on our feet or try get the country up and running again we cant all sit at home for ever on handouts like many do |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You don't have to go if they do open. You can still self isolate."
The trouble is most people seem to think that if the government says you can now do something, it's law you have to lol
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"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x ,
Me too, good for families too  "
they could have managed social distancing far more than in clubs x |
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By *arksxMan
over a year ago
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"The government are thinking of opening pubs in the near future. But other places like zoos and wildlife parks are to remain shut.
Don't see the sense in that at alot of these places are facing crippling debts. But hay as long as we can still go get pissed it's all ok??
No point opening them, all the animals will be down the pub lol"
Or in parliament |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x ,
Me too, good for families too they could have managed social distancing far more than in clubs x "
Yes they could |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x "
Me too. Its ridiculous as a number of zoos are set and ready to go with social distancing provisions already in place |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x ,
Me too, good for families too they could have managed social distancing far more than in clubs x
Yes they could "
Reads a little like hob the builder  |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x
Me too. Its ridiculous as a number of zoos are set and ready to go with social distancing provisions already in place"
and like many, they are struggling financially
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x ,
Me too, good for families too they could have managed social distancing far more than in clubs x
Yes they could
Reads a little like hob the builder "
'yes he can' ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x
Me too. Its ridiculous as a number of zoos are set and ready to go with social distancing provisions already in place
and like many, they are struggling financially
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I think most are losing between a half to a million pounds a month. Keepers cant be furloughed and huge running costs to be met. A few are fearing that they may not survive |
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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago
Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria |
"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x
Me too. Its ridiculous as a number of zoos are set and ready to go with social distancing provisions already in place
and like many, they are struggling financially
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Heard the government have told Chester Zoo they may have to close indefinitely due to the amount of debt that will occur if lockdown of it carry’s on much longer even though social distancing can be achieved now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x
Me too. Its ridiculous as a number of zoos are set and ready to go with social distancing provisions already in place
and like many, they are struggling financially
I think most are losing between a half to a million pounds a month. Keepers cant be furloughed and huge running costs to be met. A few are fearing that they may not survive"
If garden centres can open with social distancing I can't see why zoos can't...all it requires is no inside animals atm ,like reptile houses. But the vast majority of the zoo could be open...be it with limited numbers allowed in at one time |
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Pubs are likely to be a centre for virus transmission, greater employment and tax, I'm assuming. The virus is less important to some.
I'd prefer zoos first and they make more sense, though a few threads seem to think everything should be open yesterday, as the closures are going to kill more and create a recession like nothing in the universe |
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It's disgraceful!!
Call me cynical, but zoos are charities and the government get very little tax from them. There is a massive debt to pay, so the businesses that pay the most tax will be opening first! |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x
Me too. Its ridiculous as a number of zoos are set and ready to go with social distancing provisions already in place
and like many, they are struggling financially
I think most are losing between a half to a million pounds a month. Keepers cant be furloughed and huge running costs to be met. A few are fearing that they may not survive"
It's a shame... |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x
Me too. Its ridiculous as a number of zoos are set and ready to go with social distancing provisions already in place
and like many, they are struggling financially
I think most are losing between a half to a million pounds a month. Keepers cant be furloughed and huge running costs to be met. A few are fearing that they may not survive
If garden centres can open with social distancing I can't see why zoos can't...all it requires is no inside animals atm ,like reptile houses. But the vast majority of the zoo could be open...be it with limited numbers allowed in at one time "
Definitely! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Pubs are likely to be a centre for virus transmission, greater employment and tax, I'm assuming. The virus is less important to some.
I'd prefer zoos first and they make more sense, though a few threads seem to think everything should be open yesterday, as the closures are going to kill more and create a recession like nothing in the universe "
They make me laugh...but sometimes make me sad with the lack of empathy.
Maggie would be proud of them though eh.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I cannot see for the life of me the problem of opening zoo's and wildlife parks. These places are vast and surely staff can control the visitors in areas that people find more interesting than others.
I can't see why pubs with outside access should be shut. With correct controls in place a pub is no more dangerous than standing in a bus queue.
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"I cannot see for the life of me the problem of opening zoo's and wildlife parks. These places are vast and surely staff can control the visitors in areas that people find more interesting than others.
I can't see why pubs with outside access should be shut. With correct controls in place a pub is no more dangerous than standing in a bus queue.
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It could work with a smaller capacity and table service and not allowing people to become drUnk. However, they still have overheads and a reduced financial turnover, so isn't financially viable for all |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"its all about money but that will be every country think about the billions that the government are pouring into the country to try keep everyone happy but think of the lost revenue of taxes etc its a no win situation for the gov slowly have us die on our feet or try get the country up and running again we cant all sit at home for ever on handouts like many do "
So happy your not going to sit at home on handouts at your age.
In four years might have one less Tory s vote for the Nasty party every vote counts.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I cannot see for the life of me the problem of opening zoo's and wildlife parks. These places are vast and surely staff can control the visitors in areas that people find more interesting than others.
I can't see why pubs with outside access should be shut. With correct controls in place a pub is no more dangerous than standing in a bus queue.
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The only downside with pubs is that
alcohol is know to lose ones inhibitions...so maybe a more measured limit needs to be introduced for a while even with outside drinking joints |
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"I cannot see for the life of me the problem of opening zoo's and wildlife parks. These places are vast and surely staff can control the visitors in areas that people find more interesting than others.
I can't see why pubs with outside access should be shut. With correct controls in place a pub is no more dangerous than standing in a bus queue.
The only downside with pubs is that
alcohol is know to lose ones inhibitions...so maybe a more measured limit needs to be introduced for a while even with outside drinking joints "
Maybe a 2 pint maximum and only if you buy a meal  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I cannot see for the life of me the problem of opening zoo's and wildlife parks. These places are vast and surely staff can control the visitors in areas that people find more interesting than others.
I can't see why pubs with outside access should be shut. With correct controls in place a pub is no more dangerous than standing in a bus queue.
The only downside with pubs is that
alcohol is know to lose ones inhibitions...so maybe a more measured limit needs to be introduced for a while even with outside drinking joints
Maybe a 2 pint maximum and only if you buy a meal "
Sounds good just so long as it's not 2 pints of gin |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"So essentially treat the public like children because they can't be trusted to follow the guidlines.
The either open them or don't.
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The government have said there is likely to still be 2m SD, also suggest that no one can go to the bar to order drinks, table service only. Can the public
be trusted? Some can't...like some at the mass gatherings who didn't SD
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So essentially treat the public like children because they can't be trusted to follow the guidlines.
The either open them or don't.
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Yes don't need more rules that can be bent. Like 2 drinks in one pub then walk down the road and have 2 more. |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"Can’t wait for them to open we have great music in our locals "
I work in Hospitality, including Licensing, for which advance data out already is suggesting that pubs won't be permitted to return to musical nights or themed events for some time.
Pubs will be drinks and food only, with social distancing enforced.
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"So essentially treat the public like children because they can't be trusted to follow the guidlines.
The either open them or don't.
Yes don't need more rules that can be bent. Like 2 drinks in one pub then walk down the road and have 2 more. "
I'm not sure it needs to be a specific limit, as long as people aren't drUnk. As the pubs are likely to have a limited capacity it's unlikely you will be able to wander in and out of pubs, as we can now. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Can’t wait for them to open we have great music in our locals
I work in Hospitality, including Licensing, for which advance data out already is suggesting that pubs won't be permitted to return to musical nights or themed events for some time.
Pubs will be drinks and food only, with social distancing enforced.
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"So essentially treat the public like children because they can't be trusted to follow the guidlines.
The either open them or don't.
Yes don't need more rules that can be bent. Like 2 drinks in one pub then walk down the road and have 2 more. "
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"So essentially treat the public like children because they can't be trusted to follow the guidlines.
The either open them or don't.
Yes don't need more rules that can be bent. Like 2 drinks in one pub then walk down the road and have 2 more. "
Maybe not bend the rules? |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"So essentially treat the public like children because they can't be trusted to follow the guidlines.
The either open them or don't.
Yes don't need more rules that can be bent. Like 2 drinks in one pub then walk down the road and have 2 more.
I'm not sure it needs to be a specific limit, as long as people aren't drUnk. As the pubs are likely to have a limited capacity it's unlikely you will be able to wander in and out of pubs, as we can now."
Should have read 'as we used to' |
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"Can’t wait for them to open we have great music in our locals
I work in Hospitality, including Licensing, for which advance data out already is suggesting that pubs won't be permitted to return to musical nights or themed events for some time.
Pubs will be drinks and food only, with social distancing enforced.
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Yup this has been hinted by our council too |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Can’t wait for them to open we have great music in our locals
I work in Hospitality, including Licensing, for which advance data out already is suggesting that pubs won't be permitted to return to musical nights or themed events for some time.
Pubs will be drinks and food only, with social distancing enforced.
Yup this has been hinted by our council too "
I think it's the way it has to go at the moment |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
Just being reported on West Midlands news bulletins that Marstons Brewery chain with lots of pubs in its portfolio, predict that if the 2 Metre social distancing rule is enforced, then 70% of their pubs won't open!
Multiply that across the UK with all chain & independent pubs and the losses of jobs could be immense. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Can’t wait for them to open we have great music in our locals
I work in Hospitality, including Licensing, for which advance data out already is suggesting that pubs won't be permitted to return to musical nights or themed events for some time.
Pubs will be drinks and food only, with social distancing enforced.
Yup this has been hinted by our council too "
I hope this means that TH is going to have a restaurant night. Theme nights with naked waiters and waitresses? hehe |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Just being reported on West Midlands news bulletins that Marstons Brewery chain with lots of pubs in its portfolio, predict that if the 2 Metre social distancing rule is enforced, then 70% of their pubs won't open!
Multiply that across the UK with all chain & independent pubs and the losses of jobs could be immense."
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Quite right Iain, I'm sure you'll agree we can't have people piling into pubs again, at the moment and yes it will be a massive problem for many pubs. Many businesses, of all sizes are affected. |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"Just being reported on West Midlands news bulletins that Marstons Brewery chain with lots of pubs in its portfolio, predict that if the 2 Metre social distancing rule is enforced, then 70% of their pubs won't open!
Multiply that across the UK with all chain & independent pubs and the losses of jobs could be immense.,
Quite right Iain, I'm sure you'll agree we can't have people piling into pubs again, at the moment and yes it will be a massive problem for many pubs. Many businesses, of all sizes are affected."
One of the proposed rules will be no standing at the bar except to order and receive drinks. That's to keep Bar staff safe.
In our premises, our function rooms will likely to be limited to 40% of capacity. Thus a function intended for 100, will only be allowed for 40 under new rules. We have about 40 functions intended for March through to end of this month, which have been put back to November and onwards. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Problem with zoos is people travel from far and wide to visit "
As long as they are in a car to get there, then bugger off home after going....I dont see a problem.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just being reported on West Midlands news bulletins that Marstons Brewery chain with lots of pubs in its portfolio, predict that if the 2 Metre social distancing rule is enforced, then 70% of their pubs won't open!
Multiply that across the UK with all chain & independent pubs and the losses of jobs could be immense.,
Quite right Iain, I'm sure you'll agree we can't have people piling into pubs again, at the moment and yes it will be a massive problem for many pubs. Many businesses, of all sizes are affected.
One of the proposed rules will be no standing at the bar except to order and receive drinks. That's to keep Bar staff safe.
In our premises, our function rooms will likely to be limited to 40% of capacity. Thus a function intended for 100, will only be allowed for 40 under new rules. We have about 40 functions intended for March through to end of this month, which have been put back to November and onwards."
I think by November....if not before we will see a lot more restrictions coming back sadly. |
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"Can’t wait for them to open we have great music in our locals
I work in Hospitality, including Licensing, for which advance data out already is suggesting that pubs won't be permitted to return to musical nights or themed events for some time.
Pubs will be drinks and food only, with social distancing enforced.
In that case thousands of pubs won’t survive if there’s no atmosphere might as well have friends round in the garden with music better atmosphere shame be the death of such a great British tradition
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"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x "
There is anything imposed by the government that make sense?
Quarantine on returning from countries with 10 time lower infection rate, face make made compulsory now and not during the peak (they actually said that they were not effective).
Honestly they should get a grip! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x
There is anything imposed by the government that make sense?
Quarantine on returning from countries with 10 time lower infection rate, face make made compulsory now and not during the peak (they actually said that they were not effective).
Honestly they should get a grip!"
I agree. But we are a long way from getting out of the deep end yet...the trouble is this government knows that with the lifting of restrictions.
So I hate to use one of thier phrases...but we bloody do need to stay alert with the way things are heading  |
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Last time I went to a zoo a monkey gave me the finger, last time I went to a pub the bar man gave me a finger.
Let the animals go free, after all wasn't all this kerfuffle started with couped up animals in some form.
The goverment should buy everyone a drink, men, women, babies and put it on Mr Cummings tab.
I'll have what Prince Charles is on.
The press should hold a press conference with the bats in London zoo to see what what they think of all this.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Last time I went to a zoo a monkey gave me the finger, last time I went to a pub the bar man gave me a finger.
Let the animals go free, after all wasn't all this kerfuffle started with couped up animals in some form.
The goverment should buy everyone a drink, men, women, babies and put it on Mr Cummings tab.
I'll have what Prince Charles is on.
The press should hold a press conference with the bats in London zoo to see what what they think of all this.
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If you were on what prince Charles was on....you would need plenty of foundation one that big red nose  |
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"Last time I went to a zoo a monkey gave me the finger, last time I went to a pub the bar man gave me a finger.
Let the animals go free, after all wasn't all this kerfuffle started with couped up animals in some form.
The goverment should buy everyone a drink, men, women, babies and put it on Mr Cummings tab.
I'll have what Prince Charles is on.
The press should hold a press conference with the bats in London zoo to see what what they think of all this.
If you were on what prince Charles was on....you would need plenty of foundation one that big red nose "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x "
We’ve said this also, doesn’t make any sense not to open them,
They need the revenue, it’s easy to social distance and at least it’s something for families to get out and about a little |
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By *EloveMan
over a year ago
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"Can’t wait for them to open we have great music in our locals
I work in Hospitality, including Licensing, for which advance data out already is suggesting that pubs won't be permitted to return to musical nights or themed events for some time.
Pubs will be drinks and food only, with social distancing enforced.
Yup this has been hinted by our council too "
Oh bollocks I'm so looking forward to some social distancing at your pub 
Maybe some light nibbles too 
Seems a long way off then  |
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"The government are thinking of opening pubs in the near future. But other places like zoos and wildlife parks are to remain shut.
Don't see the sense in that at alot of these places are facing crippling debts. But hay as long as we can still go get pissed it's all ok??"
Think of the staff involved that may be on furlough?(or am I just being cynical and thinking of the taxes they're missing out on and the pressure from the large brewers?) Relatively speaking the others mentioned are small fry? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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To be fair, I can't imagine zoo being safe for social distancing with children, especially younger ones or ones with autism or learning difficulties. So I can see why a zoo may be singled out. But on the other side they still have to feed the animals, maintain a huge area of land etc. So they are going to have to do something to get revenue up. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"To be fair, I can't imagine zoo being safe for social distancing with children, especially younger ones or ones with autism or learning difficulties. So I can see why a zoo may be singled out. But on the other side they still have to feed the animals, maintain a huge area of land etc. So they are going to have to do something to get revenue up."
So your saying it would be easier for adults to social distance in a pub?? |
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"To be fair, I can't imagine zoo being safe for social distancing with children, especially younger ones or ones with autism or learning difficulties. So I can see why a zoo may be singled out. But on the other side they still have to feed the animals, maintain a huge area of land etc. So they are going to have to do something to get revenue up."
it would be very easy to make a zoo social distancing safe.
Btw for those that love the zoos etc.. most are still accepting donations or adopting animals etc |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To be fair, I can't imagine zoo being safe for social distancing with children, especially younger ones or ones with autism or learning difficulties. So I can see why a zoo may be singled out. But on the other side they still have to feed the animals, maintain a huge area of land etc. So they are going to have to do something to get revenue up. it would be very easy to make a zoo social distancing safe.
Btw for those that love the zoos etc.. most are still accepting donations or adopting animals etc "
May be easy for adults but not for children. Also have you not seen how the public behave at beeches which have far bigger land masses? |
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"To be fair, I can't imagine zoo being safe for social distancing with children, especially younger ones or ones with autism or learning difficulties. So I can see why a zoo may be singled out. But on the other side they still have to feed the animals, maintain a huge area of land etc. So they are going to have to do something to get revenue up. it would be very easy to make a zoo social distancing safe.
Btw for those that love the zoos etc.. most are still accepting donations or adopting animals etc
May be easy for adults but not for children. Also have you not seen how the public behave at beeches which have far bigger land masses? "
so you believe that most of the beaches were filled and no sd going on... many many of the photos were just taken in a way to make it look that social distancing wasnt going on... or they were old photos. I'm not being funny but even before the virus. I've never sat closer than 2m from another family oh the beach.
And if a zoo marked it off right the kids would manage with supervision |
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"To be fair, I can't imagine zoo being safe for social distancing with children, especially younger ones or ones with autism or learning difficulties. So I can see why a zoo may be singled out. But on the other side they still have to feed the animals, maintain a huge area of land etc. So they are going to have to do something to get revenue up. it would be very easy to make a zoo social distancing safe.
Btw for those that love the zoos etc.. most are still accepting donations or adopting animals etc
May be easy for adults but not for children. Also have you not seen how the public behave at beeches which have far bigger land masses? "
Would it be too much to ask the children's parents actually take responsibility for their children |
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"To be fair, I can't imagine zoo being safe for social distancing with children, especially younger ones or ones with autism or learning difficulties. So I can see why a zoo may be singled out. But on the other side they still have to feed the animals, maintain a huge area of land etc. So they are going to have to do something to get revenue up. it would be very easy to make a zoo social distancing safe.
Btw for those that love the zoos etc.. most are still accepting donations or adopting animals etc
May be easy for adults but not for children. Also have you not seen how the public behave at beeches which have far bigger land masses?
Would it be too much to ask the children's parents actually take responsibility for their children"
Do you have young children?
Easier said than done. |
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"To be fair, I can't imagine zoo being safe for social distancing with children, especially younger ones or ones with autism or learning difficulties. So I can see why a zoo may be singled out. But on the other side they still have to feed the animals, maintain a huge area of land etc. So they are going to have to do something to get revenue up. it would be very easy to make a zoo social distancing safe.
Btw for those that love the zoos etc.. most are still accepting donations or adopting animals etc
May be easy for adults but not for children. Also have you not seen how the public behave at beeches which have far bigger land masses?
Would it be too much to ask the children's parents actually take responsibility for their children"
That's just crazy talk. Personal responsibility, never going to take off!
Also a very clear if you don't follow social distancing you'll be asked to leave policy and actually enforce it. |
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"The alcohol lobby is stronger than the animal one.
Gyms and other fitness places originally were going to be closed for a lot longer then the current plan, but people spoke up and now they 'might' be able to open in July.
So you'll be able to get a pint and a McDonalds, but you can't go to the gym. After it has been said that the bigger youbare, the more likely you are to suffer ill effects."
Well said. Exactly |
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"To be fair, I can't imagine zoo being safe for social distancing with children, especially younger ones or ones with autism or learning difficulties. So I can see why a zoo may be singled out. But on the other side they still have to feed the animals, maintain a huge area of land etc. So they are going to have to do something to get revenue up. it would be very easy to make a zoo social distancing safe.
Btw for those that love the zoos etc.. most are still accepting donations or adopting animals etc
May be easy for adults but not for children. Also have you not seen how the public behave at beeches which have far bigger land masses?
Would it be too much to ask the children's parents actually take responsibility for their children
Do you have young children?
Easier said than done."
I had young children and if I didn't think I was enough of an adult to protect them I wouldn't take them to the zoo. However I wouldn't want my lack of parenting skills to force a zoo out of business. |
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"To be fair, I can't imagine zoo being safe for social distancing with children, especially younger ones or ones with autism or learning difficulties. So I can see why a zoo may be singled out. But on the other side they still have to feed the animals, maintain a huge area of land etc. So they are going to have to do something to get revenue up. it would be very easy to make a zoo social distancing safe.
Btw for those that love the zoos etc.. most are still accepting donations or adopting animals etc
May be easy for adults but not for children. Also have you not seen how the public behave at beeches which have far bigger land masses?
Would it be too much to ask the children's parents actually take responsibility for their children
Do you have young children?
Easier said than done.
I had young children and if I didn't think I was enough of an adult to protect them I wouldn't take them to the zoo. However I wouldn't want my lack of parenting skills to force a zoo out of business."
Exactly this. I'm not sure just because some parents cant control their kids is a reason to keep places closed |
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"I cannot see for the life of me the problem of opening zoo's and wildlife parks. These places are vast and surely staff can control the visitors in areas that people find more interesting than others.
I can't see why pubs with outside access should be shut. With correct controls in place a pub is no more dangerous than standing in a bus queue.
The only downside with pubs is that
alcohol is know to lose ones inhibitions...so maybe a more measured limit needs to be introduced for a while even with outside drinking joints
Maybe a 2 pint maximum and only if you buy a meal "
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"So essentially treat the public like children because they can't be trusted to follow the guidlines.
The either open them or don't.
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I'd treat the public like children..then again, maybe not, as children tend to be ok following very basic, easy to understand rules |
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Hundreds of people attended secret all-night raves in London in May, despite social distancing rules and lockdown restrictions.
But organisers say "it's actually people exercising to house music".
You just need to know where to look
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"The government are thinking of opening pubs in the near future. But other places like zoos and wildlife parks are to remain shut.
Don't see the sense in that at alot of these places are facing crippling debts. But hay as long as we can still go get pissed it's all ok??"
I don't go to pubs but it's hardly sensible |
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"Hundreds of people attended secret all-night raves in London in May, despite social distancing rules and lockdown restrictions.
But organisers say "it's actually people exercising to house music".
You just need to know where to look
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"Guy on tv from British institute of innkeeping. Saying it's unclear how many pubs will come through this. Biggest challenge is the 2m rule, obviously."
2007 the smoking ban...2020 the pub ban.
Yeah it's not looking good. |
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"The government are thinking of opening pubs in the near future. But other places like zoos and wildlife parks are to remain shut.
Don't see the sense in that at alot of these places are facing crippling debts. But hay as long as we can still go get pissed it's all ok??
No point opening them, all the animals will be down the pub lol"
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"Guy on tv from British institute of innkeeping. Saying it's unclear how many pubs will come through this. Biggest challenge is the 2m rule, obviously.
2007 the smoking ban...2020 the pub ban.
Yeah it's not looking good."
It's not looking good and it is a shame. Pubs especially in villages, are the hub of these places. Feel sorry for the landlords. |
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over a year ago
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"Guy on tv from British institute of innkeeping. Saying it's unclear how many pubs will come through this. Biggest challenge is the 2m rule, obviously.
2007 the smoking ban...2020 the pub ban.
Yeah it's not looking good.
It's not looking good and it is a shame. Pubs especially in villages, are the hub of these places. Feel sorry for the landlords."
The future of pubs is on the line. Those which have outside gardens or patio space stand a chance of surviving. Those which are of a building only format face challenges as keeping everyone 2 metres apart is the difficulty!
In my town, there are a number of pubs around the main square; that's ok in good weather, as they can space seating apart. But in bad weather, where do those people sit or stand?
In my work, we're a hotel; we can ensure people sit in different lounges, but with only one bar, that's our pinch-point & that makes us vulnerable unless the 2 metre rule is reduced. We have no outside space.
The licensing trade is saying it's in dire straits unless rules are eased and quickly. |
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"Guy on tv from British institute of innkeeping. Saying it's unclear how many pubs will come through this. Biggest challenge is the 2m rule, obviously.
2007 the smoking ban...2020 the pub ban.
Yeah it's not looking good.
It's not looking good and it is a shame. Pubs especially in villages, are the hub of these places. Feel sorry for the landlords.
The future of pubs is on the line. Those which have outside gardens or patio space stand a chance of surviving. Those which are of a building only format face challenges as keeping everyone 2 metres apart is the difficulty!
In my town, there are a number of pubs around the main square; that's ok in good weather, as they can space seating apart. But in bad weather, where do those people sit or stand?
In my work, we're a hotel; we can ensure people sit in different lounges, but with only one bar, that's our pinch-point & that makes us vulnerable unless the 2 metre rule is reduced. We have no outside space.
The licensing trade is saying it's in dire straits unless rules are eased and quickly."
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"If everyone has to follow the 2m rule there's no point in going to the pub for most people. You don't go to the pub to drink,you go to socialise. "
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"If everyone has to follow the 2m rule there's no point in going to the pub for most people. You don't go to the pub to drink,you go to socialise. "
You can pretend you're on the phone
I can hear people 20m away when they are talking on the phone in a noisy pub |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"If everyone has to follow the 2m rule there's no point in going to the pub for most people. You don't go to the pub to drink,you go to socialise. "
I thought of that too. Not easy to socialise with a 2m distance. |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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town im in has seven pubs.with social distancing and yhe rules there gona put in place im guessing that probably two of them will be able to open.the others are so small u will prob be allowed ten at a time in and that aint gona work financially for the snaller pubs.wouldnt make enough to pay staff. let alone the electric and the rates.so will prob end up with the two bigger pubs one being a wetherspoins the other being a toby carvery so will end up with no proper pubs in my town |
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Zoos could reopen via advanced bookings, to manage levels of people. I think everyone is aware that physical distancing measures need to be in place everywhere. We've seen it in stores, got used to queuing and waiting. I think a lot of closed places have probably already designed measures to keep people apart, for when they reopen.
I don't know if they didn't cover having a phased relaxation, such as only diners with drinks at first and only via table service. We can start to do things, just a little differently.
I'm sure some in government want to reduce the 2m rule. If they do, it will probably be just slipped in to a list of other measures that could endanger us or swell tax levels for a while |
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"The alcohol lobby is stronger than the animal one.
Gyms and other fitness places originally were going to be closed for a lot longer then the current plan, but people spoke up and now they 'might' be able to open in July.
So you'll be able to get a pint and a McDonalds, but you can't go to the gym. After it has been said that the bigger youbare, the more likely you are to suffer ill effects."
Fuck it, just open everything up now.
You go in shops, no one is social distancing, people go on beaches, no social distancing. People still want to meet for fun. The message is not getting across
Let individuals decide if it is safe to go out. Then if we get a second spike, I will be safe at home following the guidelines. |
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over a year ago
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"The alcohol lobby is stronger than the animal one.
Gyms and other fitness places originally were going to be closed for a lot longer then the current plan, but people spoke up and now they 'might' be able to open in July.
So you'll be able to get a pint and a McDonalds, but you can't go to the gym. After it has been said that the bigger youbare, the more likely you are to suffer ill effects.
Fuck it, just open everything up now.
You go in shops, no one is social distancing, people go on beaches, no social distancing. People still want to meet for fun. The message is not getting across
Let individuals decide if it is safe to go out. Then if we get a second spike, I will be safe at home following the guidelines."
You have a point, Rachel |
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over a year ago
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"So essentially treat the public like children because they can't be trusted to follow the guidlines.
The either open them or don't.
The government have said there is likely to still be 2m SD, also suggest that no one can go to the bar to order drinks, table service only. Can the public
be trusted? Some can't...like some at the mass gatherings who didn't SD
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Problem is the trade is also putting pressure on the government to reduce social distancing to 1m as they reckon at that figure they could return to 70% of pre lockdown business. People seen to have no idea what 2m is now, before having a drink. I won't be going for the foreseeable |
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"So essentially treat the public like children because they can't be trusted to follow the guidlines.
The either open them or don't.
The government have said there is likely to still be 2m SD, also suggest that no one can go to the bar to order drinks, table service only. Can the public
be trusted? Some can't...like some at the mass gatherings who didn't SD
Problem is the trade is also putting pressure on the government to reduce social distancing to 1m as they reckon at that figure they could return to 70% of pre lockdown business. People seen to have no idea what 2m is now, before having a drink. I won't be going for the foreseeable "
We're not pub people, but I have to confess I would be guilty of forgetting SD, which is why I won't go. I do feel for those who want to get back to the pubs though , some people are on their own and this is where they socialise , especially the older generation |
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over a year ago
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"If pubs don’t open soon so many will go under, surely as adults we can decide all by ourselves if we want to go to a pub if you don’t want to then don’t go if like us you do want pubs open then go"
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"If pubs don’t open soon so many will go under, surely as adults we can decide all by ourselves if we want to go to a pub if you don’t want to then don’t go if like us you do want pubs open then go
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I can't wait for pubs to reopen, but it's not just a case of 'don't go if you don't want to'. Opening too soon will increase the spread, which is then taken out of pubs. It's not like infection remains inside the pub boundaries. |
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"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x "
Totally agree and it involves children as well..they re desperate to be out..many are too young to understand this. |
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"If pubs don’t open soon so many will go under, surely as adults we can decide all by ourselves if we want to go to a pub if you don’t want to then don’t go if like us you do want pubs open then go
I can't wait for pubs to reopen, but it's not just a case of 'don't go if you don't want to'. Opening too soon will increase the spread, which is then taken out of pubs. It's not like infection remains inside the pub boundaries."
How’s it any worse that going in shops ? |
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"If pubs don’t open soon so many will go under, surely as adults we can decide all by ourselves if we want to go to a pub if you don’t want to then don’t go if like us you do want pubs open then go
I can't wait for pubs to reopen, but it's not just a case of 'don't go if you don't want to'. Opening too soon will increase the spread, which is then taken out of pubs. It's not like infection remains inside the pub boundaries. How’s it any worse that going in shops ? "
The implication is that shops will better manage SD and limited numbers. Shops full of d*unk people would be just as bad, for sure. |
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"If pubs don’t open soon so many will go under, surely as adults we can decide all by ourselves if we want to go to a pub if you don’t want to then don’t go if like us you do want pubs open then go
I can't wait for pubs to reopen, but it's not just a case of 'don't go if you don't want to'. Opening too soon will increase the spread, which is then taken out of pubs. It's not like infection remains inside the pub boundaries. How’s it any worse that going in shops ?
The implication is that shops will better manage SD and limited numbers. Shops full of d*unk people would be just as bad, for sure."
They might as well open the pubs tomorrow after all the lack of social distancing at the protests all over the country yesterday. |
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All about the economy now.
As cynical as that sounds it's true. Bnq open before you can have a f2f gp appointmnet? All been done backwards if you ask me. Whole lock down process has been farcical. |
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"If pubs don’t open soon so many will go under, surely as adults we can decide all by ourselves if we want to go to a pub if you don’t want to then don’t go if like us you do want pubs open then go
I can't wait for pubs to reopen, but it's not just a case of 'don't go if you don't want to'. Opening too soon will increase the spread, which is then taken out of pubs. It's not like infection remains inside the pub boundaries. How’s it any worse that going in shops ?
The implication is that shops will better manage SD and limited numbers. Shops full of d*unk people would be just as bad, for sure.
They might as well open the pubs tomorrow after all the lack of social distancing at the protests all over the country yesterday."
But it wasn't all over the country was it. whereas pubs are all over the country. So not the best comparison |
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"I have a friend who owns a pub... he says it looks like September... when the schools restart in full... they wont open one without the other"
Drop the kids at school then off to the pub to recover from having the little barstewards at home |
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"If pubs don’t open soon so many will go under, surely as adults we can decide all by ourselves if we want to go to a pub if you don’t want to then don’t go if like us you do want pubs open then go
I can't wait for pubs to reopen, but it's not just a case of 'don't go if you don't want to'. Opening too soon will increase the spread, which is then taken out of pubs. It's not like infection remains inside the pub boundaries. How’s it any worse that going in shops ?
The implication is that shops will better manage SD and limited numbers. Shops full of d*unk people would be just as bad, for sure.
They might as well open the pubs tomorrow after all the lack of social distancing at the protests all over the country yesterday.
But it wasn't all over the country was it. whereas pubs are all over the country. So not the best comparison "
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over a year ago
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"They say alcohol is the biggest cause of violence and antisocial behaviour, but look what happened in London yesterday, and all the pubs were closed!"
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Hmmmmm people can still consume alcohol they buy from an off license or supermarket.
So some out there yesterday could have been acting under the influence of alcohol |
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"If pubs don’t open soon so many will go under, surely as adults we can decide all by ourselves if we want to go to a pub if you don’t want to then don’t go if like us you do want pubs open then go
I can't wait for pubs to reopen, but it's not just a case of 'don't go if you don't want to'. Opening too soon will increase the spread, which is then taken out of pubs. It's not like infection remains inside the pub boundaries. How’s it any worse that going in shops ?
The implication is that shops will better manage SD and limited numbers. Shops full of d*unk people would be just as bad, for sure.
They might as well open the pubs tomorrow after all the lack of social distancing at the protests all over the country yesterday.
But it wasn't all over the country was it. whereas pubs are all over the country. So not the best comparison
Hmm yes it was ."
Hmm no it wasn’t. It was in some cities and towns but not in all cities and towns. Whereas there are pubs in all cities and towns.
So not the best comparison. |
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"If pubs don’t open soon so many will go under, surely as adults we can decide all by ourselves if we want to go to a pub if you don’t want to then don’t go if like us you do want pubs open then go
I can't wait for pubs to reopen, but it's not just a case of 'don't go if you don't want to'. Opening too soon will increase the spread, which is then taken out of pubs. It's not like infection remains inside the pub boundaries. How’s it any worse that going in shops ?
The implication is that shops will better manage SD and limited numbers. Shops full of d*unk people would be just as bad, for sure.
They might as well open the pubs tomorrow after all the lack of social distancing at the protests all over the country yesterday.
But it wasn't all over the country was it. whereas pubs are all over the country. So not the best comparison
Hmm yes it was .
Hmm no it wasn’t. It was in some cities and towns but not in all cities and towns. Whereas there are pubs in all cities and towns.
So not the best comparison."
So from london to Newcastle is not all over the country .
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"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x ,
Me too, good for families too they could have managed social distancing far more than in clubs x "
They also need the income, feeding the animals is costing them dearly and something has to give! Mostly you keep distances from others at zoos anyway! Can’t recall last tome I went and stood right next to a stranger, while looking at the lions!!! Also drive through zoos! Where’s the risk? |
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"I would have thought zoos and such like as they are mostly outdoors would have made sense to open x ,
Me too, good for families too they could have managed social distancing far more than in clubs x
They also need the income, feeding the animals is costing them dearly and something has to give! Mostly you keep distances from others at zoos anyway! Can’t recall last tome I went and stood right next to a stranger, while looking at the lions!!! Also drive through zoos! Where’s the risk? "
I was wondering why safari parks can open x |
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over a year ago
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Pubs will be a difficult one to manage, alchahol makes you more confident and social distance will simply not happen, most pubs will not be suitable to open as it won't be viable for them to having to provide smoking area's with social distance as well will be very difficult also if they cannot serve food it's not going to be worth them putting beer in the pipes unfortunately! |
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"Pubs will be a difficult one to manage, alchahol makes you more confident and social distance will simply not happen, most pubs will not be suitable to open as it won't be viable for them to having to provide smoking area's with social distance as well will be very difficult also if they cannot serve food it's not going to be worth them putting beer in the pipes unfortunately! "
Stay indoors then
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"To be fair, I can't imagine zoo being safe for social distancing with children, especially younger ones or ones with autism or learning difficulties. So I can see why a zoo may be singled out. But on the other side they still have to feed the animals, maintain a huge area of land etc. So they are going to have to do something to get revenue up. it would be very easy to make a zoo social distancing safe.
Btw for those that love the zoos etc.. most are still accepting donations or adopting animals etc
May be easy for adults but not for children. Also have you not seen how the public behave at beeches which have far bigger land masses?
Would it be too much to ask the children's parents actually take responsibility for their children
Do you have young children?
Easier said than done."
Not anymore,just one small grandchild. However I'd like to think that mine, and my grandson have manners. If told,they never wander off,also in areas such as zoo's they always held hands for safety reasons. If there's one thing that I hate it's unruly,unsupervised children running around anywhere. Screaming at them and threats do little good just good old fashioned discipline and love should keep any child under control? |
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"If pubs don’t open soon so many will go under, surely as adults we can decide all by ourselves if we want to go to a pub if you don’t want to then don’t go if like us you do want pubs open then go
I can't wait for pubs to reopen, but it's not just a case of 'don't go if you don't want to'. Opening too soon will increase the spread, which is then taken out of pubs. It's not like infection remains inside the pub boundaries. How’s it any worse that going in shops ? "
Nobody sits in the shops for hours at a time ? |
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"The government are thinking of opening pubs in the near future. But other places like zoos and wildlife parks are to remain shut.
Don't see the sense in that at alot of these places are facing crippling debts. But hay as long as we can still go get pissed it's all ok??"
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