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over a year ago
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Thousands of people (large proportion BAME....who are known to be at higher risk) protesting in London ove death of George Floyd. No attempt at social distancing.
Fully understand their a ger and disgust but surely not the most sensible thing to be doing?
The "plan" by the organisers was meant to be a (socially distanced) march around Hyde Park but now gone much further. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Thousands of people (large proportion BAME....who are known to be at higher risk) protesting in London ove death of George Floyd. No attempt at social distancing.
Fully understand their a ger and disgust but surely not the most sensible thing to be doing?
The "plan" by the organisers was meant to be a (socially distanced) march around Hyde Park but now gone much further."
How many people were reported to be at beaches at the weekend? There are lots of things going on where people are risking g a second spike.
To be honest singling out a specific event makes it more about the event than the action of people gathering. I'm fairly confident that will be reflected in the replies |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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Just seen it on tv, no social distancing and at the protests over the weekend. I fully understand and appreciate why people want to do this and in normal times, would support it, but there should be no mass gatherings,for obvious reasons |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Thousands of people (large proportion BAME....who are known to be at higher risk) protesting in London ove death of George Floyd. No attempt at social distancing.
Fully understand their a ger and disgust but surely not the most sensible thing to be doing?
The "plan" by the organisers was meant to be a (socially distanced) march around Hyde Park but now gone much further.
How many people were reported to be at beaches at the weekend? There are lots of things going on where people are risking g a second spike.
To be honest singling out a specific event makes it more about the event than the action of people gathering. I'm fairly confident that will be reflected in the replies"
Any mass gatherings shouldn't be happening and they should control of close the beaches  |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Thousands of people (large proportion BAME....who are known to be at higher risk) protesting in London ove death of George Floyd. No attempt at social distancing.
Fully understand their a ger and disgust but surely not the most sensible thing to be doing?
The "plan" by the organisers was meant to be a (socially distanced) march around Hyde Park but now gone much further.
How many people were reported to be at beaches at the weekend? There are lots of things going on where people are risking g a second spike.
To be honest singling out a specific event makes it more about the event than the action of people gathering. I'm fairly confident that will be reflected in the replies
Any mass gatherings shouldn't be happening and they should control of close the beaches "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Expect to see a lot of McDonald's drive through operatives moving in the high risk groups.. the blockage on the roads today is absolutely crazy.
You can always rely on the British public eh... |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Expect to see a lot of McDonald's drive through operatives moving in the high risk groups.. the blockage on the roads today is absolutely crazy.
You can always rely on the British public eh..."
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"Expect to see a lot of McDonald's drive through operatives moving in the high risk groups.. the blockage on the roads today is absolutely crazy.
You can always rely on the British public eh..."
The police have had to attend the Droitwich store as they were blocking traffic that badly that it was backing up onto the motorway.
And all for a rubber burger  |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Thousands of people (large proportion BAME....who are known to be at higher risk) protesting in London ove death of George Floyd. No attempt at social distancing.
Fully understand their a ger and disgust but surely not the most sensible thing to be doing?
The "plan" by the organisers was meant to be a (socially distanced) march around Hyde Park but now gone much further.
How many people were reported to be at beaches at the weekend? There are lots of things going on where people are risking g a second spike.
To be honest singling out a specific event makes it more about the event than the action of people gathering. I'm fairly confident that will be reflected in the replies"
There was a thread about the overcrowded beaches |
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Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead |
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"Expect to see a lot of McDonald's drive through operatives moving in the high risk groups.. the blockage on the roads today is absolutely crazy.
You can always rely on the British public eh...
The police have had to attend the Droitwich store as they were blocking traffic that badly that it was backing up onto the motorway.
And all for a rubber burger "
People would eat dog shit in a bun if they didn’t have to cook it all drive thro should be closed in my option lazy people should be made to walk to buy that garbage
Sad plastic food for sad plastic people I think
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead "
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
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How do we stop mass gatherings? |
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
How do we stop mass gatherings? "
No idea, Maybe by telling people to stay away from beaches or you will be fined, Block roads off etc, They are warning people not to go near football grounds when the league starts again but the numbers won't be anywhere near what have been going the beaches or marching through London |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
How do we stop mass gatherings?
No idea, Maybe by telling people to stay away from beaches or you will be fined, Block roads off etc, They are warning people not to go near football grounds when the league starts again but the numbers won't be anywhere near what have been going the beaches or marching through London "
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
How do we stop mass gatherings?
No idea, Maybe by telling people to stay away from beaches or you will be fined, Block roads off etc, They are warning people not to go near football grounds when the league starts again but the numbers won't be anywhere near what have been going the beaches or marching through London "
The bigger fear when the football restarts should be people inviting there mates round to watch the match and have a beer |
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
How do we stop mass gatherings?
No idea, Maybe by telling people to stay away from beaches or you will be fined, Block roads off etc, They are warning people not to go near football grounds when the league starts again but the numbers won't be anywhere near what have been going the beaches or marching through London
The bigger fear when the football restarts should be people inviting there mates round to watch the match and have a beer"
Yeah work along side them all week but you're not watching the footy with me at the weekend that would be crazy |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
How do we stop mass gatherings?
No idea, Maybe by telling people to stay away from beaches or you will be fined, Block roads off etc, They are warning people not to go near football grounds when the league starts again but the numbers won't be anywhere near what have been going the beaches or marching through London
The bigger fear when the football restarts should be people inviting there mates round to watch the match and have a beer"
That happens already in our area! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thousands of people (large proportion BAME....who are known to be at higher risk) protesting in London ove death of George Floyd. No attempt at social distancing.
Fully understand their a ger and disgust but surely not the most sensible thing to be doing?
The "plan" by the organisers was meant to be a (socially distanced) march around Hyde Park but now gone much further.
How many people were reported to be at beaches at the weekend? There are lots of things going on where people are risking g a second spike.
To be honest singling out a specific event makes it more about the event than the action of people gathering. I'm fairly confident that will be reflected in the replies"
Thank you!!!
The protest this weekend I agree wasn’t the best idea considering, but even if the protesting didn’t happen how many people have breached the rules by going to the beaches etc with their friends and family. |
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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago
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The protest this weekend I agree wasn’t the best idea considering, but even if the protesting didn’t happen how many people have breached the rules by going to the beaches etc with their friends and family. "
People are allowed to go to the Beach with friends and family, but only in groups of six.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Expect to see a lot of McDonald's drive through operatives moving in the high risk groups.. the blockage on the roads today is absolutely crazy.
You can always rely on the British public eh...
The police have had to attend the Droitwich store as they were blocking traffic that badly that it was backing up onto the motorway.
And all for a rubber burger
People would eat dog shit in a bun if they didn’t have to cook it all drive thro should be closed in my option lazy people should be made to walk to buy that garbage
Sad plastic food for sad plastic people I think
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Oooh dear bit harsh. Sad plastic people. I happen to like one occasionally and i think im a very intelligent, classy lady . So please dnt tar everyone with the same brush. If you dont like it fair enough but dnt run people down who do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The protest this weekend I agree wasn’t the best idea considering, but even if the protesting didn’t happen how many people have breached the rules by going to the beaches etc with their friends and family.
People are allowed to go to the Beach with friends and family, but only in groups of six. "
I was referring who travelled to beaches and parks BEFORE Boris stated those rules and those have travelled to the beaches and not maintained social distancing |
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By *emmabTV/TS
over a year ago
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Yes there was loads of people on the beaches and now a large gathering protesting. However it is outside. Compared to the main reason London had such a high level of infection early March was the the tube and buses. Million of people on the move at the same time crammed cheek to cheek on hot airless train carriages and buses for up to an hour in the morning and again in the evening. I really think it will not create the same level of infection.
Plus our world beating track and trace will some sort out any increase in infection |
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"Yes there was loads of people on the beaches and now a large gathering protesting. However it is outside. Compared to the main reason London had such a high level of infection early March was the the tube and buses. Million of people on the move at the same time crammed cheek to cheek on hot airless train carriages and buses for up to an hour in the morning and again in the evening. I really think it will not create the same level of infection.
Plus our world beating track and trace will some sort out any increase in infection "
So how exactly do you thing all of these thousands of people attended the protest today?
A lot by tube and buses, plus outside is OK with social distancing. Unfortunately that seems to have not been maintained today. |
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By *lan157Man
over a year ago
a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex |
"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead "
Because I don't want to live in a police state . |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"I have a lot more sympathy for the protesters than the beach goers."
And also lots of the people protesting today were wearing masks.
The crowds we saw at the beach were not wearing masks, higher chance of transmission among those at the beach. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You are free. Free to be what ever you want. Do pretty much anything you like as long as its not hurting others. I always hear that point. But what is it that the police state is stopping you doing. Apart from the obvious illegal stuff. Most illegal stuff is pretty much common sense anyway. |
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"I have a lot more sympathy for the protesters than the beach goers."
most of the beach stories were vastly exaggerated and ignored the fact that most were 2m apart or more. Dont believe all the photos you see. As some pointed out on other threads.. some of the photos are old.. and some taken in a way that makes it look less than 2m.
The protesters were always going to end up not social distancing x |
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"I have a lot more sympathy for the protesters than the beach goers. most of the beach stories were vastly exaggerated and ignored the fact that most were 2m apart or more. Dont believe all the photos you see. As some pointed out on other threads.. some of the photos are old.. and some taken in a way that makes it look less than 2m.
The protesters were always going to end up not social distancing x"
To the extent anyone was breaking social distancing I have more sympathy for protesters. I stayed at home, myself. |
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"I have a lot more sympathy for the protesters than the beach goers. most of the beach stories were vastly exaggerated and ignored the fact that most were 2m apart or more. Dont believe all the photos you see. As some pointed out on other threads.. some of the photos are old.. and some taken in a way that makes it look less than 2m.
The protesters were always going to end up not social distancing x
To the extent anyone was breaking social distancing I have more sympathy for protesters. I stayed at home, myself."
I was in my garden or local river gardens. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You are free. Free to be what ever you want. Do pretty much anything you like as long as its not hurting others. I always hear that point. But what is it that the police state is stopping you doing. Apart from the obvious illegal stuff. Most illegal stuff is pretty much common sense anyway. "
who else read that and instantly got oasis in their head |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You are free. Free to be what ever you want. Do pretty much anything you like as long as its not hurting others. I always hear that point. But what is it that the police state is stopping you doing. Apart from the obvious illegal stuff. Most illegal stuff is pretty much common sense anyway.
who else read that and instantly got oasis in their head"
I'm beginning to think that half the population of the UK have got an oasis in their heads. There's certainly room for one anyway.
Actually, not just the UK. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have a lot more sympathy for the protesters than the beach goers."
Why? Do the protestors in London honestly think Trump would give a shit how many people cram into Hyde Park when he has tear gassed people in his own country. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Just seen it on tv, no social distancing and at the protests over the weekend. I fully understand and appreciate why people want to do this and in normal times, would support it, but there should be no mass gatherings,for obvious reasons"
The problem is if the police broke it up the government would be accused of racism,bias towards Trump and more so as long as no trouble the police could do nothing.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nearly 40 k deaths and still hundred plus deaths daily !!!... we are still paying for May Day ..V E Day and Bank holiday Monday .....Boris Johnson should have TOLD people to stay indoors ..not advised all the time !!!.....As a nation sometimes we seem to just do what we want ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Thousands of people (large proportion BAME....who are known to be at higher risk) protesting in London ove death of George Floyd. No attempt at social distancing.
Fully understand their a ger and disgust but surely not the most sensible thing to be doing?
The "plan" by the organisers was meant to be a (socially distanced) march around Hyde Park but now gone much further.
How many people were reported to be at beaches at the weekend? There are lots of things going on where people are risking g a second spike.
To be honest singling out a specific event makes it more about the event than the action of people gathering. I'm fairly confident that will be reflected in the replies"
Fair play.
So many people prepared to facilitate the spread of covid for some sun, a march or to 'meet' a friend. Fucking deluded.
And don't get me started on the number of people whose main priority is a fucking summer holiday still. Fuck getting sick or bringing disease back with them as long as they get their fortnight on the beach.
Fucking morons. |
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Can't have sympathy for people who have no regard for others safety. We are still under restrictive rules here in Wales, empty beaches and parks, police turning people around if not local. To see what's happening in England is a joke.. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Nearly 40 k deaths and still hundred plus deaths daily !!!... we are still paying for May Day ..V E Day and Bank holiday Monday .....Boris Johnson should have TOLD people to stay indoors ..not advised all the time !!!.....As a nation sometimes we seem to just do what we want ... "
Yes we are to soft but if it was enforced people would say we lived in a dictatorship the government cannot win and the opposition and media would attack Boris even more.He is a bit soft though
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It does annoy me! Especially when we've been abiding strictly by the rules.. I value my health and others..so I stay home.
The pandemic is not over, there are other ways to show support. |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
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I will say, I was horrified at both the scenes at the beaches and especially at Hyde Park today, I couldn't believe that people in the UK were behaving this way!
But then hey, I'll look after me, and I suppose that's how everyone else is thinking?
In the mean time, I am quietly working from home during the day, if I need goods I go in the evening after work, I don't need to que and I can be as vigilant as much as possible, I wont say I am paranoid, but I don't know why people seem to think the virus has disappeared and congregating in crowds, I just don't get it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I will say, I was horrified at both the scenes at the beaches and especially at Hyde Park today, I couldn't believe that people in the UK were behaving this way!
But then hey, I'll look after me, and I suppose that's how everyone else is thinking?
In the mean time, I am quietly working from home during the day, if I need goods I go in the evening after work, I don't need to que and I can be as vigilant as much as possible, I wont say I am paranoid, but I don't know why people seem to think the virus has disappeared and congregating in crowds, I just don't get it "
It's gone nowhere foxy...a MP went down with it in parliament today.
I hope it shakes them up a little but I doubt it as it seems its wealth not health is the order of the day  |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
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"I will say, I was horrified at both the scenes at the beaches and especially at Hyde Park today, I couldn't believe that people in the UK were behaving this way!
But then hey, I'll look after me, and I suppose that's how everyone else is thinking?
In the mean time, I am quietly working from home during the day, if I need goods I go in the evening after work, I don't need to que and I can be as vigilant as much as possible, I wont say I am paranoid, but I don't know why people seem to think the virus has disappeared and congregating in crowds, I just don't get it
It's gone nowhere foxy...a MP went down with it in parliament today.
I hope it shakes them up a little but I doubt it as it seems its wealth not health is the order of the day "
But the pictures of the beaches and at Hyde Park, has nothing to do with wealth!
I've no idea where you get that from!  |
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By *xhib12Man
over a year ago
Blyth |
"Expect to see a lot of McDonald's drive through operatives moving in the high risk groups.. the blockage on the roads today is absolutely crazy.
You can always rely on the British public eh...
The police have had to attend the Droitwich store as they were blocking traffic that badly that it was backing up onto the motorway.
And all for a rubber burger "
And a McVirus! |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Yes there was loads of people on the beaches and now a large gathering protesting. However it is outside. Compared to the main reason London had such a high level of infection early March was the the tube and buses. Million of people on the move at the same time crammed cheek to cheek on hot airless train carriages and buses for up to an hour in the morning and again in the evening. I really think it will not create the same level of infection.
Plus our world beating track and trace will some sort out any increase in infection
So how exactly do you thing all of these thousands of people attended the protest today?
A lot by tube and buses, plus outside is OK with social distancing. Unfortunately that seems to have not been maintained today."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The virus like this and no daubt by all these protests and gatherings the 2nd wave could come quicker and as a result those who are at risk is putting more preasure on the nhs staff which isnt fair on them who are already under big preasure from this as well, they dont need the extra work from that. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
It's crazy Shag. I'm abiding by the rules, as many are. Today it was our grandsons 18th birthday. There are 6 in their family. We sat in the rain with 4 of them, whilst the other 2 were at their bedroom windows...why do we bother... |
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"It's crazy Shag. I'm abiding by the rules, as many are. Today it was our grandsons 18th birthday. There are 6 in their family. We sat in the rain with 4 of them, whilst the other 2 were at their bedroom windows...why do we bother..."
That is good you were and yes you do wonder as well why we bother with it too.
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Can't have sympathy for people who have no regard for others safety. We are still under restrictive rules here in Wales, empty beaches and parks, police turning people around if not local. To see what's happening in England is a joke.. "
You are right, it is a joke... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's crazy Shag. I'm abiding by the rules, as many are. Today it was our grandsons 18th birthday. There are 6 in their family. We sat in the rain with 4 of them, whilst the other 2 were at their bedroom windows...why do we bother...That is good you were and yes you do wonder as well why we bother with it too."
It is crazy but it feels good if you follow the rules as well.
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"It's crazy Shag. I'm abiding by the rules, as many are. Today it was our grandsons 18th birthday. There are 6 in their family. We sat in the rain with 4 of them, whilst the other 2 were at their bedroom windows...why do we bother...That is good you were and yes you do wonder as well why we bother with it too."
I'm trying to protect my family Shag, no one else will.. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Not just in London either, there were 100's of people in town earlier, saw it on the news. We have a very high number of cases to "
What's the matter with people? No doubt we'll end up with a stricter lockdown...
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Thanks Samiss, our police were turning buses from Birmingham around on the m4 over the weekend. We've lovely beaches here, and on Sunday, maybe a dozen people on a stretch a half mile long. We love the beach, and it's so nice just to amble along... |
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Will the same people Planning protests up and down the U.K. this weekend be happy to sign disclaimers waiving their right to receive medical treatment in the event they contract Covid19 at these demonstrations?
It’s funny how many celebs including Gary Lineker actively supporting these riots only days after quite rightly lambasting others for their idiotic actions. A complete and utter hypocrite, and a complete and utter bell end into the bargain
Then we have the labour MPs who don’t have a single backbone between them lapping events up, they are desperate for a second wave just to say “we told you so” |
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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"Not just in London either, there were 100's of people in town earlier, saw it on the news. We have a very high number of cases to
What's the matter with people? No doubt we'll end up with a stricter lockdown...
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that's what I thought after VE Day, so many people seemed to be celebrating and drinking together and forgetting to keep apart, but so far luckily no evidence of the spike happening. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Not just in London either, there were 100's of people in town earlier, saw it on the news. We have a very high number of cases to
What's the matter with people? No doubt we'll end up with a stricter lockdown...
that's what I thought after VE Day, so many people seemed to be celebrating and drinking together and forgetting to keep apart, but so far luckily no evidence of the spike happening."
We are talking thousands of people here, over several days and who knows how many more days. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I listened to someone's thoughts today on the protesters.
It did make me think...
People with darker skin suffering a higher fatality rate due to covid 19 pandemic. Yet they are out protesting , not just in America but all over the world for the black lives matters campaign..
If racism is so high could these protest be lead by someone taking advantage of the current situation with the intention of a cull on the black community?
It's a thought along the lines of did China release this virus upon the world to rule the world? |
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Can it truly be said that there was no attempt at social distancing? People there are people like us, as concerned about others and their own health, so will have been taking the same restrictions that we all have been.
It's unlikely that we can know how things were there either, as media depictions are selective and biased.
Better to focus on yourself and helping others as much as you can |
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"...No attempt at social distancing.
...The "plan" by the organisers was meant to be a (socially distanced) march around Hyde Park but now gone much further."
Which is it? There was either a plan, that was not stuck to, or there was no attempt at social distancing.
Not sure why you wrote "plan" like that. |
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"If racism is so high could these protest be lead by someone taking advantage of the current situation with the intention of a cull on the black community?"
I think it's more likely that the protests and marches were organised and attended by people with broken hearts, but souls ablaze, sick to death of systemic and justified racism.
But I guess your theory could be true. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
chelmsford |
"Can it truly be said that there was no attempt at social distancing? People there are people like us, as concerned about others and their own health, so will have been taking the same restrictions that we all have been.
It's unlikely that we can know how things were there either, as media depictions are selective and biased.
Better to focus on yourself and helping others as much as you can"
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They may have attempted it, but it was quite clear they didn't achieve it. |
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We try not to watch the news and read about protests beaches and social distancing as it just winds us up .we are just keeping ourselves safe and well and the people we care about.
Cant control the actions of others |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If racism is so high could these protest be lead by someone taking advantage of the current situation with the intention of a cull on the black community?
I think it's more likely that the protests and marches were organised and attended by people with broken hearts, but souls ablaze, sick to death of systemic and justified racism.
But I guess your theory could be true."
A black man killed on camera for the world to see. Not being stopped by the other police officers nor was he publicly striped of his badge and arrested immediately. It's a very strange thing to happen. If the police could kill a man , they could of taken the phone off the one filming it but they chose not to. They knew the reaction it would have. |
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"If racism is so high could these protest be lead by someone taking advantage of the current situation with the intention of a cull on the black community?
I think it's more likely that the protests and marches were organised and attended by people with broken hearts, but souls ablaze, sick to death of systemic and justified racism.
But I guess your theory could be true.
A black man killed on camera for the world to see. Not being stopped by the other police officers nor was he publicly striped of his badge and arrested immediately. It's a very strange thing to happen. If the police could kill a man , they could of taken the phone off the one filming it but they chose not to. They knew the reaction it would have."
Do you not follow US news much? They have a President endorsed by David Duke, ffs!
I doubt it would have occured to them to take the phone away. It probably never crossed their minds that they wouldn't get away with it! |
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"If racism is so high could these protest be lead by someone taking advantage of the current situation with the intention of a cull on the black community?
I think it's more likely that the protests and marches were organised and attended by people with broken hearts, but souls ablaze, sick to death of systemic and justified racism.
But I guess your theory could be true.
A black man killed on camera for the world to see. Not being stopped by the other police officers nor was he publicly striped of his badge and arrested immediately. It's a very strange thing to happen. If the police could kill a man , they could of taken the phone off the one filming it but they chose not to. They knew the reaction it would have.
Do you not follow US news much? They have a President endorsed by David Duke, ffs!
I doubt it would have occured to them to take the phone away. It probably never crossed their minds that they wouldn't get away with it! "
No I don't follow US news much at all. Just someone else's opinion, one that never crossed my mind, made me question it. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
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"I have a lot more sympathy for the protesters than the beach goers. most of the beach stories were vastly exaggerated and ignored the fact that most were 2m apart or more. Dont believe all the photos you see. As some pointed out on other threads.. some of the photos are old.. and some taken in a way that makes it look less than 2m.
The protesters were always going to end up not social distancing x"
very true the beach here had loads of people enjoying themselves but all social distancing by what I saw. |
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
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Its the governments fault that they allow people to go on there jollies to the beach hundreds of miles from there home. |
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"I will say, I was horrified at both the scenes at the beaches and especially at Hyde Park today, I couldn't believe that people in the UK were behaving this way!
But then hey, I'll look after me, and I suppose that's how everyone else is thinking?
In the mean time, I am quietly working from home during the day, if I need goods I go in the evening after work, I don't need to que and I can be as vigilant as much as possible, I wont say I am paranoid, but I don't know why people seem to think the virus has disappeared and congregating in crowds, I just don't get it
It's gone nowhere foxy...a MP went down with it in parliament today.
I hope it shakes them up a little but I doubt it as it seems its wealth not health is the order of the day
But the pictures of the beaches and at Hyde Park, has nothing to do with wealth!
I've no idea where you get that from! "
My point was more about the messages that are being put out by governments...we are far from getting out of this pandemic but we are lifting restrictions so quick that you will see more and more scenarios like this.
Other countries are coming out of lockdown....but they have managed to get it under control first. We are still in 3 figure death rates...and being run by billy smarts circus clowns who are now looking to wealth and fuck the health |
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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago
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"I will say, I was horrified at both the scenes at the beaches and especially at Hyde Park today, I couldn't believe that people in the UK were behaving this way!
But then hey, I'll look after me, and I suppose that's how everyone else is thinking?
In the mean time, I am quietly working from home during the day, if I need goods I go in the evening after work, I don't need to que and I can be as vigilant as much as possible, I wont say I am paranoid, but I don't know why people seem to think the virus has disappeared and congregating in crowds, I just don't get it
It's gone nowhere foxy...a MP went down with it in parliament today.
I hope it shakes them up a little but I doubt it as it seems its wealth not health is the order of the day
But the pictures of the beaches and at Hyde Park, has nothing to do with wealth!
I've no idea where you get that from!
My point was more about the messages that are being put out by governments...we are far from getting out of this pandemic but we are lifting restrictions so quick that you will see more and more scenarios like this.
Other countries are coming out of lockdown....but they have managed to get it under control first. We are still in 3 figure death rates...and being run by billy smarts circus clowns who are now looking to wealth and fuck the health "
Dead on. The only possible conclusion is that they want the infection rate to rise, or at least they’re not concerned if it does. |
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Anyone who thinks the UK/specifically england, did 2well during lockdown is delusional.
How could we have so many deaths if people actually adhered to lockdown rules?! Lol
I work in a hospital, with many BAMEs and myself as one. We risk ourselves as frontline staff, we arent dying because we are genetically weaker but because we are front liners!
Remember the incidents of people with covid spitting at workers!
I know me and many BAME staff appreciate the protests because... and this might shock you, we face racism too! This is also a protest that racism towards black people here should be stopped.
Police brutality isnt the same here because they dont carry guns but the discrimination and racism is very real. |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Anyone who thinks the UK/specifically england, did 2well during lockdown is delusional.
How could we have so many deaths if people actually adhered to lockdown rules?! Lol
I work in a hospital, with many BAMEs and myself as one. We risk ourselves as frontline staff, we arent dying because we are genetically weaker but because we are front liners!
Remember the incidents of people with covid spitting at workers!
I know me and many BAME staff appreciate the protests because... and this might shock you, we face racism too! This is also a protest that racism towards black people here should be stopped.
Police brutality isnt the same here because they dont carry guns but the discrimination and racism is very real."
I respect what you are saying .were you ok with the protests in London with very little social distancing? |
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I wonder how many protesters there would have been if it was pissing it down....
The 'lets have a jolly in the sun brigade' fucking morons.
Ive been tested and i have got covid and ive been careful. i hope it doesnt develop in to the full blown illness..
I now cannot have tests for other serious medical problems for 28 days thanks to morons like those people spreading the fucking virus |
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By *rumalexMan
over a year ago
Birmingham |
"I wonder how many protesters there would have been if it was pissing it down....
The 'lets have a jolly in the sun brigade' fucking morons.
Ive been tested and i have got covid and ive been careful. i hope it doesnt develop in to the full blown illness..
I now cannot have tests for other serious medical problems for 28 days thanks to morons like those people spreading the fucking virus"
quotes like this piss me off, first you can only spread it if you have it, you dont know anyone on the march definately has the virus, we had these spike fears in April when people wrere out, we had the spike fears on the VE day bank holiday, now a month later where is the spike?
I don't doubt we will probably get another one at some point , but will most likely be due to people getting out again going about normal business like shopping, i assume you havent been on a march or on the beach but still you managed to get covid going about your normal business |
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over a year ago
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"I wonder how many protesters there would have been if it was pissing it down....
The 'lets have a jolly in the sun brigade' fucking morons.
Ive been tested and i have got covid and ive been careful. i hope it doesnt develop in to the full blown illness..
I now cannot have tests for other serious medical problems for 28 days thanks to morons like those people spreading the fucking virus"
I'm sorry to hear that.Good luck with your tests. These people are selfish, as regards to the potential spread of the virus. With all the thousands of people, there must have been some with the virus.
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"I wonder how many protesters there would have been if it was pissing it down....
The 'lets have a jolly in the sun brigade' fucking morons.
Ive been tested and i have got covid and ive been careful. i hope it doesnt develop in to the full blown illness..
I now cannot have tests for other serious medical problems for 28 days thanks to morons like those people spreading the fucking virus
quotes like this piss me off, first you can only spread it if you have it, you dont know anyone on the march definately has the virus, we had these spike fears in April when people wrere out, we had the spike fears on the VE day bank holiday, now a month later where is the spike?
I don't doubt we will probably get another one at some point , but will most likely be due to people getting out again going about normal business like shopping, i assume you havent been on a march or on the beach but still you managed to get covid going about your normal business"
Thing is you see i havnt been going about my normal bussines.
I have probably caught this from someone who didnt/doesnt know they have it .
Worse i may have un willingly passed it on before i knew i have it and thats scarey.. i could have been a contributing factor in someone elese illness or death.
Before i tested possitive i was the only one in my household going shopping. I probably got this from a shopping trolley or tin of beans.
So thousands of people together wether thats ve-day, on a beach or whatever is just fooking stupid on a biblical scale
See the bigger picture....this is lives morons are playing with! |
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By *ixenhixCouple
over a year ago
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"We had an issue at the weekend, near us, people gathering in large groups, some drUnk and no social distancing. Today they have fenced it all off, so no one can go now.
You live near the House of Parliament then ??
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By *rumalexMan
over a year ago
Birmingham |
"I wonder how many protesters there would have been if it was pissing it down....
The 'lets have a jolly in the sun brigade' fucking morons.
Ive been tested and i have got covid and ive been careful. i hope it doesnt develop in to the full blown illness..
I now cannot have tests for other serious medical problems for 28 days thanks to morons like those people spreading the fucking virus
quotes like this piss me off, first you can only spread it if you have it, you dont know anyone on the march definately has the virus, we had these spike fears in April when people wrere out, we had the spike fears on the VE day bank holiday, now a month later where is the spike?
I don't doubt we will probably get another one at some point , but will most likely be due to people getting out again going about normal business like shopping, i assume you havent been on a march or on the beach but still you managed to get covid going about your normal business
Thing is you see i havnt been going about my normal bussines.
I have probably caught this from someone who didnt/doesnt know they have it .
Worse i may have un willingly passed it on before i knew i have it and thats scarey.. i could have been a contributing factor in someone elese illness or death.
Before i tested possitive i was the only one in my household going shopping. I probably got this from a shopping trolley or tin of beans.
So thousands of people together wether thats ve-day, on a beach or whatever is just fooking stupid on a biblical scale
See the bigger picture....this is lives morons are playing with!"
if you read what i put i stated will most likely catch it going about normal business like shopping, you reckon you may have got it from a shopping trolley or something, like i said normal business, i dont doubt there will be another spike, i just think its lazy to assume people automatically get it because they're on a beach or on a march, if no one on the beach or on the march has the virus, then there is nothing to spread, there is a chance some may have it, but when you think there are 68 million in the Uk, and officially less than 400,000 are infected, then there is a possibility that in a crowd of people , none can have the virus |
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"I will say, I was horrified at both the scenes at the beaches and especially at Hyde Park today, I couldn't believe that people in the UK were behaving this way!
But then hey, I'll look after me, and I suppose that's how everyone else is thinking?
In the mean time, I am quietly working from home during the day, if I need goods I go in the evening after work, I don't need to que and I can be as vigilant as much as possible, I wont say I am paranoid, but I don't know why people seem to think the virus has disappeared and congregating in crowds, I just don't get it "
I'm with you or not as the case may be.
Lots of disregard for others by gathering in numbers.
Don't need alot of heavy policing just block off areas. Get the Police Tape out, not the Police State.
Otherwise it's out with the water cannons.
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"We had an issue at the weekend, near us, people gathering in large groups, some drUnk and no social distancing. Today they have fenced it all off, so no one can go now.
You live near the House of Parliament then ??
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I don't, no, but they have managed to spoil it for everyone else |
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I completely understand and respect people's decision to protect themselves and stay indoors, but just exactly how long do you expect young healthy, largely unaffected people to put their lives on hold considering new daily cases are in the region of 0.00003% of the population ?
Yes I,or we, will continue to keep our distance but we will not hide in fear of this any longer.
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"I completely understand and respect people's decision to protect themselves and stay indoors, but just exactly how long do you expect young healthy, largely unaffected people to put their lives on hold considering new daily cases are in the region of 0.00003% of the population ?
Yes I,or we, will continue to keep our distance but we will not hide in fear of this any longer.
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"I completely understand and respect people's decision to protect themselves and stay indoors, but just exactly how long do you expect young healthy, largely unaffected people to put their lives on hold considering new daily cases are in the region of 0.00003% of the population ?
Yes I,or we, will continue to keep our distance but we will not hide in fear of this any longer.
What changed your mind from 15 minutes ago...when you were going to stay in until winter? "
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"I completely understand and respect people's decision to protect themselves and stay indoors, but just exactly how long do you expect young healthy, largely unaffected people to put their lives on hold considering new daily cases are in the region of 0.00003% of the population ?
Yes I,or we, will continue to keep our distance but we will not hide in fear of this any longer.
What changed your mind from 15 minutes ago...when you were going to stay in until winter? "
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Yes. Probably worse in London, but elsewhere too.
Let's face it, the ONLY things that have reduced deaths and infections are lockdown and distancing.
There is no vaccine. There is no cure. There are no really effective treatments.
ANY relaxation of lockdown therefore MUST lead to increased death rates.
Government is just experimenting to see how bad they can let things get before we really take notice.
They need the economy more than they need the lives of a few hundred of us plebs per day. |
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One good thing that will come out of the London riots that have been taking place this week and probably all weekend, it will prove one way or another if there is such a thing called the "second wave" let's see..... |
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
How do we stop mass gatherings?
No idea, Maybe by telling people to stay away from beaches or you will be fined, Block roads off etc, They are warning people not to go near football grounds when the league starts again but the numbers won't be anywhere near what have been going the beaches or marching through London "
You think that fans won't go to celebrate when Liverpool and Leeds win their leagues (unfortunately!)
Wake up!!!! There will be thousands of them. Neither has had success for years and the majority of fans won't care. |
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"Expect to see a lot of McDonald's drive through operatives moving in the high risk groups.. the blockage on the roads today is absolutely crazy.
You can always rely on the British public eh...
The police have had to attend the Droitwich store as they were blocking traffic that badly that it was backing up onto the motorway.
And all for a rubber burger "
As a rare treat, I'm quite looking forward to a cheeseburger meal. However the prospect of queuing that long for one is certainly not going to happen! Muppets!!? |
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"One good thing that will come out of the London riots that have been taking place this week and probably all weekend, it will prove one way or another if there is such a thing called the "second wave" let's see..... "
I'm not sure it will, any vunerable and elderly surely wouldn't risk their health for a protest after shielding for so long, I can see a rise in asymptomatic cases among the youngsters though, little pockets of virus bubbling along but not enough for a second wave, not just yet anyway |
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
How do we stop mass gatherings?
No idea, Maybe by telling people to stay away from beaches or you will be fined, Block roads off etc, They are warning people not to go near football grounds when the league starts again but the numbers won't be anywhere near what have been going the beaches or marching through London
You think that fans won't go to celebrate when Liverpool and Leeds win their leagues (unfortunately!)
Wake up!!!! There will be thousands of them. Neither has had success for years and the majority of fans won't care. "
People will go and celebrate I don't doubt that but the outcry from the media and social media will be a lot worse the what they have said about the others
The majority of fans won't care about what ? Social distancing ?
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"One good thing that will come out of the London riots that have been taking place this week and probably all weekend, it will prove one way or another if there is such a thing called the "second wave" let's see..... "
Riots ??? |
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
How do we stop mass gatherings?
No idea, Maybe by telling people to stay away from beaches or you will be fined, Block roads off etc, They are warning people not to go near football grounds when the league starts again but the numbers won't be anywhere near what have been going the beaches or marching through London
You think that fans won't go to celebrate when Liverpool and Leeds win their leagues (unfortunately!)
Wake up!!!! There will be thousands of them. Neither has had success for years and the majority of fans won't care.
People will go and celebrate I don't doubt that but the outcry from the media and social media will be a lot worse the what they have said about the others
The majority of fans won't care about what ? Social distancing ?
When they win their respective leagues the fans will celebrate together. Even now you see them planning where to go and watch the games and after around the ground, city centre, parks. They will get together, you think they will all be 2M apart??? And be responsible??
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
How do we stop mass gatherings?
No idea, Maybe by telling people to stay away from beaches or you will be fined, Block roads off etc, They are warning people not to go near football grounds when the league starts again but the numbers won't be anywhere near what have been going the beaches or marching through London
You think that fans won't go to celebrate when Liverpool and Leeds win their leagues (unfortunately!)
Wake up!!!! There will be thousands of them. Neither has had success for years and the majority of fans won't care.
People will go and celebrate I don't doubt that but the outcry from the media and social media will be a lot worse the what they have said about the others
The majority of fans won't care about what ? Social distancing ?
When they win their respective leagues the fans will celebrate together. Even now you see them planning where to go and watch the games and after around the ground, city centre, parks. They will get together, you think they will all be 2M apart??? And be responsible??
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But after whats been happening the last few weeks why should they, It will be no different then going the beach or marching in London |
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
How do we stop mass gatherings?
No idea, Maybe by telling people to stay away from beaches or you will be fined, Block roads off etc, They are warning people not to go near football grounds when the league starts again but the numbers won't be anywhere near what have been going the beaches or marching through London
You think that fans won't go to celebrate when Liverpool and Leeds win their leagues (unfortunately!)
Wake up!!!! There will be thousands of them. Neither has had success for years and the majority of fans won't care.
People will go and celebrate I don't doubt that but the outcry from the media and social media will be a lot worse the what they have said about the others
The majority of fans won't care about what ? Social distancing ?
When they win their respective leagues the fans will celebrate together. Even now you see them planning where to go and watch the games and after around the ground, city centre, parks. They will get together, you think they will all be 2M apart??? And be responsible??
But after whats been happening the last few weeks why should they, It will be no different then going the beach or marching in London "
True but that's down to the strength of the law and the commitment of the government to enforse it. If the authority wanted to close beaches and stop the protests due to the 2M rule they have the law to fall back on but they rely on 'responsible' actions of the individual. The truth of the matter is when it comes to individuals doing 'what they want' in their own time they majority don't give a damm only when it suit's them!! |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
It's not the governments fault is it. People have been told not to be less than 2M from each other.
I also don't believe we should ask the police to put themselves at risk and go into crowds of people to who are breaking the social distancing rules.
How do we stop mass gatherings?
No idea, Maybe by telling people to stay away from beaches or you will be fined, Block roads off etc, They are warning people not to go near football grounds when the league starts again but the numbers won't be anywhere near what have been going the beaches or marching through London
You think that fans won't go to celebrate when Liverpool and Leeds win their leagues (unfortunately!)
Wake up!!!! There will be thousands of them. Neither has had success for years and the majority of fans won't care.
People will go and celebrate I don't doubt that but the outcry from the media and social media will be a lot worse the what they have said about the others
The majority of fans won't care about what ? Social distancing ?
When they win their respective leagues the fans will celebrate together. Even now you see them planning where to go and watch the games and after around the ground, city centre, parks. They will get together, you think they will all be 2M apart??? And be responsible??
But after whats been happening the last few weeks why should they, It will be no different then going the beach or marching in London
True but that's down to the strength of the law and the commitment of the government to enforse it. If the authority wanted to close beaches and stop the protests due to the 2M rule they have the law to fall back on but they rely on 'responsible' actions of the individual. The truth of the matter is when it comes to individuals doing 'what they want' in their own time they majority don't give a damm only when it suit's them!! "
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One minute there are huge cries about 'when will lockdown be eased?' Then there are shouts of 'lockdown not being carried out correctly'
We have people doing their own thing because they use the calculation that since it is unlikely it won't happen to them.
We have people using politically motivated views to decry the Government and its handling of the whole issue.
We have the health v the economy arguement going on too.
Sadly, due to humans being self motivated and with traits of greed and abandonment for their fellow beings there is never likely to be an ideal scenario that suits everyone.
The worst aspect of all of this though, is that those who are not in the position to make key decisions or those who simply want to advance their own self worth use hindsight to make their arguement fit or use hindsight to criticise.
Nobody has experience of this pandemic, nobody has all of the answers and nobody knows better than anyone else.
Common sense therefore should tell us that the elected Government are responsible for advising us using more experts, data and information than anyone else can be privy to.
Do what is advised, be patient, be empathetic toward others and eventually all will be resolved.
People forget how fragile life is until they or their nearest and dearest are affected.
Listen to what we are told, it is all we have. If not do as you will and have what you deserve! |
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"One minute there are huge cries about 'when will lockdown be eased?' Then there are shouts of 'lockdown not being carried out correctly'
We have people doing their own thing because they use the calculation that since it is unlikely it won't happen to them.
We have people using politically motivated views to decry the Government and its handling of the whole issue.
We have the health v the economy arguement going on too.
Sadly, due to humans being self motivated and with traits of greed and abandonment for their fellow beings there is never likely to be an ideal scenario that suits everyone.
The worst aspect of all of this though, is that those who are not in the position to make key decisions or those who simply want to advance their own self worth use hindsight to make their arguement fit or use hindsight to criticise.
Nobody has experience of this pandemic, nobody has all of the answers and nobody knows better than anyone else.
Common sense therefore should tell us that the elected Government are responsible for advising us using more experts, data and information than anyone else can be privy to.
Do what is advised, be patient, be empathetic toward others and eventually all will be resolved.
People forget how fragile life is until they or their nearest and dearest are affected.
Listen to what we are told, it is all we have. If not do as you will and have what you deserve!"
The problem is that even though we have the law set out by government it is not being enforsed. When people see its a weak law they ignore it and put others at risk. Government and law enforcement needs to be stronger.
In Europe law has been enforsed because people respect it, here they scoff at it! |
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"One minute there are huge cries about 'when will lockdown be eased?' Then there are shouts of 'lockdown not being carried out correctly'
We have people doing their own thing because they use the calculation that since it is unlikely it won't happen to them.
We have people using politically motivated views to decry the Government and its handling of the whole issue.
We have the health v the economy arguement going on too.
Sadly, due to humans being self motivated and with traits of greed and abandonment for their fellow beings there is never likely to be an ideal scenario that suits everyone.
The worst aspect of all of this though, is that those who are not in the position to make key decisions or those who simply want to advance their own self worth use hindsight to make their arguement fit or use hindsight to criticise.
Nobody has experience of this pandemic, nobody has all of the answers and nobody knows better than anyone else.
Common sense therefore should tell us that the elected Government are responsible for advising us using more experts, data and information than anyone else can be privy to.
Do what is advised, be patient, be empathetic toward others and eventually all will be resolved.
People forget how fragile life is until they or their nearest and dearest are affected.
Listen to what we are told, it is all we have. If not do as you will and have what you deserve!
The problem is that even though we have the law set out by government it is not being enforsed. When people see its a weak law they ignore it and put others at risk. Government and law enforcement needs to be stronger.
In Europe law has been enforsed because people respect it, here they scoff at it! "
Not true, in other countries they mostly do as they are asked and use common sense
In the UK. .... |
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"One minute there are huge cries about 'when will lockdown be eased?' Then there are shouts of 'lockdown not being carried out correctly'
We have people doing their own thing because they use the calculation that since it is unlikely it won't happen to them.
We have people using politically motivated views to decry the Government and its handling of the whole issue.
We have the health v the economy arguement going on too.
Sadly, due to humans being self motivated and with traits of greed and abandonment for their fellow beings there is never likely to be an ideal scenario that suits everyone.
The worst aspect of all of this though, is that those who are not in the position to make key decisions or those who simply want to advance their own self worth use hindsight to make their arguement fit or use hindsight to criticise.
Nobody has experience of this pandemic, nobody has all of the answers and nobody knows better than anyone else.
Common sense therefore should tell us that the elected Government are responsible for advising us using more experts, data and information than anyone else can be privy to.
Do what is advised, be patient, be empathetic toward others and eventually all will be resolved.
People forget how fragile life is until they or their nearest and dearest are affected.
Listen to what we are told, it is all we have. If not do as you will and have what you deserve!
The problem is that even though we have the law set out by government it is not being enforsed. When people see its a weak law they ignore it and put others at risk. Government and law enforcement needs to be stronger.
In Europe law has been enforsed because people respect it, here they scoff at it!
Not true, in other countries they mostly do as they are asked and use common sense
In the UK. ...."
I go on what people I know live out in Spain and France and what people I know have family in thoes areas and Turkey.
They have a stronger enforcement and people appear to respect it. |
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As the OP I'd just like to come back. Appreciate the comments a d the arguments on both sides.
Firstly Black Lives Matter...of course they do. ALL lives matter and what happened to George Floyd was disgusting and without foubt racist. However we are talking one life.
These dozens of non-social distanced protests with thousands of people at each could lead to many, many more infections and deaths. A large proportion of the protesters were black/BAME whom we know are more likely to succumb to the virus. If black lives matter then why take such risks which could lead to losing so many more lives?
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"I would be interested to know if there are many nhs workers among the protesters, afterall, they will be the ones dealing with the new cases of the virus."
I have come to the conclusion that it's brilliant.
If a load of them get sick well they've brought it on themselves, yes they could infect others but if we each look after ourselves we won't get it.
But if there's no increase then masks work, end lockdown and go back about our business. Just the guinea pigs we need |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"I would be interested to know if there are many nhs workers among the protesters, afterall, they will be the ones dealing with the new cases of the virus.
I have come to the conclusion that it's brilliant.
If a load of them get sick well they've brought it on themselves, yes they could infect others but if we each look after ourselves we won't get it.
But if there's no increase then masks work, end lockdown and go back about our business. Just the guinea pigs we need "
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Those on packed beaches and those on the demos...
I hope you have not helped Corona spread..I hope that when you went home on tubes and buses that you did not infect others. I hope that you have not caught Corona and then bring it home to your loved ones and relatives...
I hope that if you have done any of these things that you do not feel a sense of social injustice...
The numbers of deaths from Corona have fallen.. some restrictions have been lifted...it does not mean it's safe to indulge in these protests but it does mean that there is a bed in ICU if you need it..
Stay Safe People's...
Vulnerable Group Lives Matter Too |
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"Those on packed beaches and those on the demos...
I hope you have not helped Corona spread..I hope that when you went home on tubes and buses that you did not infect others. I hope that you have not caught Corona and then bring it home to your loved ones and relatives...
I hope that if you have done any of these things that you do not feel a sense of social injustice...
The numbers of deaths from Corona have fallen.. some restrictions have been lifted...it does not mean it's safe to indulge in these protests but it does mean that there is a bed in ICU if you need it..
Stay Safe People's...
Vulnerable Group Lives Matter Too"
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead "
And you believe the number quoted by the government? As the daily totally was say 67 but they slide another 450 odd deaths to main total, as they were done by private autopsies not goverment |
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By *amissCouple
over a year ago
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"Those on packed beaches and those on the demos...
I hope you have not helped Corona spread..I hope that when you went home on tubes and buses that you did not infect others. I hope that you have not caught Corona and then bring it home to your loved ones and relatives...
I hope that if you have done any of these things that you do not feel a sense of social injustice...
The numbers of deaths from Corona have fallen.. some restrictions have been lifted...it does not mean it's safe to indulge in these protests but it does mean that there is a bed in ICU if you need it..
Stay Safe People's...
Vulnerable Group Lives Matter Too"
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"Those on packed beaches and those on the demos...
I hope you have not helped Corona spread..I hope that when you went home on tubes and buses that you did not infect others. I hope that you have not caught Corona and then bring it home to your loved ones and relatives...
I hope that if you have done any of these things that you do not feel a sense of social injustice...
The numbers of deaths from Corona have fallen.. some restrictions have been lifted...it does not mean it's safe to indulge in these protests but it does mean that there is a bed in ICU if you need it..
Stay Safe People's...
Vulnerable Group Lives Matter Too"
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Racism, sexism, various fobias, intolerance to anything that doesnt fit your particular mind set! Gone on for hundreds of years, the bloody snow flakes that destroy shit and go oh look at me (selfi) bullshit, i would stand by any underdog being bullied any day of the week on my own two feet without resorting to anarchy, hope you also ready for the tax hikes to cover furlough and oh surely not the wages and damages of the riots |
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"Either the government know we won't get another spike or its another massive fuck up by them, Why allow people to go the beaches knowing with the heat wave we had people would go in there thousands, Same for allowing the protests in London and other cites to go ahead
And you believe the number quoted by the government? As the daily totally was say 67 but they slide another 450 odd deaths to main total, as they were done by private autopsies not goverment"
I don't see what you're getting at ?
Surely by adding in extra deaths they are trying to be honest ? What do you want ? |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
borehamwood |
"One minute there are huge cries about 'when will lockdown be eased?' Then there are shouts of 'lockdown not being carried out correctly'
We have people doing their own thing because they use the calculation that since it is unlikely it won't happen to them.
We have people using politically motivated views to decry the Government and its handling of the whole issue.
We have the health v the economy arguement going on too.
Sadly, due to humans being self motivated and with traits of greed and abandonment for their fellow beings there is never likely to be an ideal scenario that suits everyone.
The worst aspect of all of this though, is that those who are not in the position to make key decisions or those who simply want to advance their own self worth use hindsight to make their arguement fit or use hindsight to criticise.
Nobody has experience of this pandemic, nobody has all of the answers and nobody knows better than anyone else.
Common sense therefore should tell us that the elected Government are responsible for advising us using more experts, data and information than anyone else can be privy to.
Do what is advised, be patient, be empathetic toward others and eventually all will be resolved.
People forget how fragile life is until they or their nearest and dearest are affected.
Listen to what we are told, it is all we have. If not do as you will and have what you deserve!
The problem is that even though we have the law set out by government it is not being enforsed. When people see its a weak law they ignore it and put others at risk. Government and law enforcement needs to be stronger.
In Europe law has been enforsed because people respect it, here they scoff at it!
Not true, in other countries they mostly do as they are asked and use common sense
In the UK. ....
I go on what people I know live out in Spain and France and what people I know have family in thoes areas and Turkey.
They have a stronger enforcement and people appear to respect it. "
lived in spain for two years in a non tourist area and yea the spanish do have a lot more respect for the law.the reaso. they respect it a lot more is the police in spain are shall we say a lot more robust.and the gaurdia lets just say they make our police look like pussycats.same as the police in france they take no bollox from anyone |
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"One minute there are huge cries about 'when will lockdown be eased?' Then there are shouts of 'lockdown not being carried out correctly'
We have people doing their own thing because they use the calculation that since it is unlikely it won't happen to them.
We have people using politically motivated views to decry the Government and its handling of the whole issue.
We have the health v the economy arguement going on too.
Sadly, due to humans being self motivated and with traits of greed and abandonment for their fellow beings there is never likely to be an ideal scenario that suits everyone.
The worst aspect of all of this though, is that those who are not in the position to make key decisions or those who simply want to advance their own self worth use hindsight to make their arguement fit or use hindsight to criticise.
Nobody has experience of this pandemic, nobody has all of the answers and nobody knows better than anyone else.
Common sense therefore should tell us that the elected Government are responsible for advising us using more experts, data and information than anyone else can be privy to.
Do what is advised, be patient, be empathetic toward others and eventually all will be resolved.
People forget how fragile life is until they or their nearest and dearest are affected.
Listen to what we are told, it is all we have. If not do as you will and have what you deserve!
The problem is that even though we have the law set out by government it is not being enforsed. When people see its a weak law they ignore it and put others at risk. Government and law enforcement needs to be stronger.
In Europe law has been enforsed because people respect it, here they scoff at it!
Not true, in other countries they mostly do as they are asked and use common sense
In the UK. ....
I go on what people I know live out in Spain and France and what people I know have family in thoes areas and Turkey.
They have a stronger enforcement and people appear to respect it.
lived in spain for two years in a non tourist area and yea the spanish do have a lot more respect for the law.the reaso. they respect it a lot more is the police in spain are shall we say a lot more robust.and the gaurdia lets just say they make our police look like pussycats.same as the police in france they take no bollox from anyone"
Be that the case, France has been dealing with the 'yellow jacket' protests off and on so the ro ust approach hasn't helped them with that.
Right or wrong, our police are looking increasingly weaker with every protest and it seems any goes on these mass protests, there are repercussions what so ever. We're becoming a laughing stock, with these let's face it, riots, and our record on the virus, it's been one crap half of the year, and we're still no where near Brexit so it's looking bleak for the UK at the moment. |
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"One minute there are huge cries about 'when will lockdown be eased?' Then there are shouts of 'lockdown not being carried out correctly'
We have people doing their own thing because they use the calculation that since it is unlikely it won't happen to them.
We have people using politically motivated views to decry the Government and its handling of the whole issue.
We have the health v the economy arguement going on too.
Sadly, due to humans being self motivated and with traits of greed and abandonment for their fellow beings there is never likely to be an ideal scenario that suits everyone.
The worst aspect of all of this though, is that those who are not in the position to make key decisions or those who simply want to advance their own self worth use hindsight to make their arguement fit or use hindsight to criticise.
Nobody has experience of this pandemic, nobody has all of the answers and nobody knows better than anyone else.
Common sense therefore should tell us that the elected Government are responsible for advising us using more experts, data and information than anyone else can be privy to.
Do what is advised, be patient, be empathetic toward others and eventually all will be resolved.
People forget how fragile life is until they or their nearest and dearest are affected.
Listen to what we are told, it is all we have. If not do as you will and have what you deserve!
The problem is that even though we have the law set out by government it is not being enforsed. When people see its a weak law they ignore it and put others at risk. Government and law enforcement needs to be stronger.
In Europe law has been enforsed because people respect it, here they scoff at it!
Not true, in other countries they mostly do as they are asked and use common sense
In the UK. ....
I go on what people I know live out in Spain and France and what people I know have family in thoes areas and Turkey.
They have a stronger enforcement and people appear to respect it.
lived in spain for two years in a non tourist area and yea the spanish do have a lot more respect for the law.the reaso. they respect it a lot more is the police in spain are shall we say a lot more robust.and the gaurdia lets just say they make our police look like pussycats.same as the police in france they take no bollox from anyone
Be that the case, France has been dealing with the 'yellow jacket' protests off and on so the ro ust approach hasn't helped them with that.
Right or wrong, our police are looking increasingly weaker with every protest and it seems any goes on these mass protests, there are repercussions what so ever. We're becoming a laughing stock, with these let's face it, riots, and our record on the virus, it's been one crap half of the year, and we're still no where near Brexit so it's looking bleak for the UK at the moment. "
i was just pointing out to someone the reason that the spanish and french respect the law more than in the uk is there policing is a lot more heavy handed than ours.although if you listen to a lot of people at the momment our old bill are worse than the gestapo |
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You can almost guarantee that when the police find any individuals involved in the trouble at these riots (yes riots) because that’s what they became
There will be some dick head do goodie lawyer
Probably being payed for by legal aid
Who will get them off with less than a slap
!!!
Sadly
As for the social distancing
We had a so called march yesterday in our town
Just feet away from a group of teenagers who have been cuddling and sitting next to each other every day for a month
Police arrive
Chat
Then go away
Get ready for the next wave!!!!
Stay safe
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By *xelciscoMan
over a year ago
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"Thousands of people (large proportion BAME....who are known to be at higher risk) protesting in London ove death of George Floyd. No attempt at social distancing.
Fully understand their a ger and disgust but surely not the most sensible thing to be doing?
The "plan" by the organisers was meant to be a (socially distanced) march around Hyde Park but now gone much further."
Understood.. But..It was madness. I predict a second spike in the UK by July and still avoid people.
And I expect spain France and the US to be hit too.
The government has no idea because thr scientific leadership is weak and Vallance is incompetent.
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"Thousands of people (large proportion BAME....who are known to be at higher risk) protesting in London ove death of George Floyd. No attempt at social distancing.
Fully understand their a ger and disgust but surely not the most sensible thing to be doing?
The "plan" by the organisers was meant to be a (socially distanced) march around Hyde Park but now gone much further.
Understood.. But..It was madness. I predict a second spike in the UK by July and still avoid people.
And I expect spain France and the US to be hit too.
The government has no idea because thr scientific leadership is weak and Vallance is incompetent.
Axel.
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Your best bet is to hide in your house for 2-5 years and avoid forums
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By *j48Man
over a year ago
Wigan |
Shoot all virus carriers, they are infected, anyone seen anywhere not 2 metres away from another person. Shoot them dead too. In fact shoot both or all dead.
Virus gone in 3 days lol
What a load of bollocks this had been turned into now..
It's passed, the vulnerable that have caught it are dead or have recovered
Normality required now before we all sink with no return
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"And even then, police are asking if we are local..
You are very lucky that your police have it under control, wish we had the same here.
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Here in Manorbier police are largely not bothered. Seen 1 patrol the whole lockdown. They didnt stop despite quite a few cars parked up. This is a holiday village and people are holidaying here. Police doing nothing. They stop them arriving if lucky but once here, nothing.
Dont get me started on anglers and surfers that think nothing of having 5 or 6 household excursions that are again ignored.
I know there have been 1 or 2 times police have done something but minimal with the breaches that happen daily. Just glad we are remote. |
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"Apparently the virus was brought into this country on 1300 separate occasions
BBC news"
Yes the nhs study is fascinating 33.6% infections from Spain and 28.5% from France, apparently we were having 30,000 people daily flying in from spain
Check out cogconsortium for the study, to be peer reviewed. |
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"And even then, police are asking if we are local..
You are very lucky that your police have it under control, wish we had the same here.
Here in Manorbier police are largely not bothered. Seen 1 patrol the whole lockdown. They didnt stop despite quite a few cars parked up. This is a holiday village and people are holidaying here. Police doing nothing. They stop them arriving if lucky but once here, nothing.
Dont get me started on anglers and surfers that think nothing of having 5 or 6 household excursions that are again ignored.
I know there have been 1 or 2 times police have done something but minimal with the breaches that happen daily. Just glad we are remote."
The warm weather has brought predators closer to the shore.. there should be police patrol boats.. armed |
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