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"Lots are meeting already and taking the risks . Lets hope their selfish actions dont kill people" Yes, quite. | |||
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"Most people won't stand for not being able to hug their children, grandparents ect. There comes a time when we are all going to have Make a choice about risk and The need for human contact. Yes at the moment it is too soon but unless we get a vaccine in the next couple of months which looks unlikely. I think people will pretty much take the view it's worth the risk. Personally when it comes to meeting people from here, for me that will not happen until I feel it's safe enough it doesn't matter how long that takes. However I am not single it must be very difficult for people are single and live alone. " It is very difficult for us singles living alone. I haven’t met my FWB since February and I’ve had my birthday last week!  | |||
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"The risks to mental health let alone civil society could possibly be greater than not allowing people to meet the government is doing its maths....and will allow meeeting..already domestic murders have risen in many areas. The press are just playing them down.. " Agreed. It’s not just about sex. We have a biological need for touch and it will get to a point where the impact on mental health will outweigh the risks from the virus. People who live alone would start to need this and break the rules eventually, we are literally fighting human nature. It is easy to label these people as selfish if you don’t live alone and are able to have this fundamental human need met. | |||
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"The risks to mental health let alone civil society could possibly be greater than not allowing people to meet the government is doing its maths....and will allow meeeting..already domestic murders have risen in many areas. The press are just playing them down.. Agreed. It’s not just about sex. We have a biological need for touch and it will get to a point where the impact on mental health will outweigh the risks from the virus. People who live alone would start to need this and break the rules eventually, we are literally fighting human nature. It is easy to label these people as selfish if you don’t live alone and are able to have this fundamental human need met. " Exactly, there's a reason why criminals go to jail, isolation is punishment, and even then the isolation is nothing compared to this, they still allowed to have their family visit and hug them | |||
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"The risks to mental health let alone civil society could possibly be greater than not allowing people to meet the government is doing its maths....and will allow meeeting..already domestic murders have risen in many areas. The press are just playing them down.. Agreed. It’s not just about sex. We have a biological need for touch and it will get to a point where the impact on mental health will outweigh the risks from the virus. People who live alone would start to need this and break the rules eventually, we are literally fighting human nature. It is easy to label these people as selfish if you don’t live alone and are able to have this fundamental human need met. " This completely. It's not about sex its about touch.. companionship.. so we will be allowed to mix this year. Or allowed or not people will. It is easy to judge people selfish but sorry it's just a basic need and actually could do more good than harm. | |||
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year. Soma social outdoor meet with social distancing is already allowed, but being able to touch and play I think will be out for the rest of the year Some however will Play a numbers game and take a risk I suspect " You're entitled to your opinion. We have ours and it's different. | |||
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"It's a waiting game , I too miss the clubs but until this is under control I cant see meets/clubs reopening and I doubt there will be a vaccine for years and if somehow, by some miracle new infections drop to zero I can see them quietly dropping efforts to find one" they are struggling to test the one they are trying out because of lack of infections x | |||
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"if your a cpl then yea u can probably put off meets until nxt year if your single on the other hand well them singles aint gona put up with no physical contact forever.they will take the risk.granted some wont but most will.cant c anyone letting a law stop them having sex if they want to" Phone in one hand while watching porn...I guess you will know what the other hands for uh  | |||
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"If anyone actually thinks that meetings aren't happening "in the real world" they maybe suffering from corona of the brain, and need to stop watching puppetmedia fearmongering television ASAP " | |||
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"If anyone actually thinks that meetings aren't happening "in the real world" they maybe suffering from corona of the brain, and need to stop watching puppetmedia fearmongering television ASAP "I don't agree anyone is suffering from corona of the brain as you put it. We are all aware that some people have been meeting regardless, and some people have pointed that out on this thread. Your television statement is irrelevant, nobody needs a television to know whether people meet or don't meet. | |||
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year. Soma social outdoor meet with social distancing is already allowed, but being able to touch and play I think will be out for the rest of the year Some however will Play a numbers game and take a risk I suspect " I firmly believe that ALL restrictions will be gone before the end of July. Cal | |||
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year. Soma social outdoor meet with social distancing is already allowed, but being able to touch and play I think will be out for the rest of the year Some however will Play a numbers game and take a risk I suspect I firmly believe that ALL restrictions will be gone before the end of July. Cal" Yes need to get the economy moving and stop people cracking up. | |||
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year. Soma social outdoor meet with social distancing is already allowed, but being able to touch and play I think will be out for the rest of the year Some however will Play a numbers game and take a risk I suspect I firmly believe that ALL restrictions will be gone before the end of July. CalYes need to get the economy moving and stop people cracking up. " Yes, and that's why the restrictions are being relax every three weeks, and more relaxations will come as time goes on. I believe that when hospitality opens up on 3rd July they will relax the rules further so people can meet up. If restaurants and hotels are opening up, then people will be expected to go for a meal , and or travel with their partners and stay overnight in a hotel. Clubs are less likely to open in July as I don't think that mass gatherings will be allowed that soon, but they will open sometime later. | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared" This ruling is causing a huge increase in mental health issues. You have couples that for whatever reasons cant cohabit and they are being ripped apart. Some managed to move in at the start ( I initially did this but then realised damn... I dont like having anyone here) but for many.. this is now too long... and then there is the singles who are being forced to have zero physical contact. To be fair I can not see the social distancing staying for too much longer... in a shop.. public places possibly... but I've seen loads of people hugging family this week. Something I'd not seen much of till recently . | |||
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year. Soma social outdoor meet with social distancing is already allowed, but being able to touch and play I think will be out for the rest of the year Some however will Play a numbers game and take a risk I suspect I firmly believe that ALL restrictions will be gone before the end of July. Cal" So mass gatherings will be allowed ie football, concerts etc by the end of July?! | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared" I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance " It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for touch. Touch deprivation is well documented. Granted that the following isn’t from a peer reviewed source, but is written by a therapist https://psychcentral.com/blog/covid-19-and-touch-deprivation/ | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance " I dont mean just sex. I mean any sort of intimacy. It really will be of huge detriment to people. I couldn't give a monkey's about some random shag from a stranger but someone I care for. Holding them.... that's what will impact most | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for touch. Touch deprivation is well documented. Granted that the following isn’t from a peer reviewed source, but is written by a therapist https://psychcentral.com/blog/covid-19-and-touch-deprivation/" If relationships are solid and emotionally intimate, I'm not convinced that being deprived of touch alone would have long lasting devastating consequences | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance I dont mean just sex. I mean any sort of intimacy. It really will be of huge detriment to people. I couldn't give a monkey's about some random shag from a stranger but someone I care for. Holding them.... that's what will impact most " yes lack of physical human contact has terrible effects on the mental and physical health. A hug.. sex.. any form of physical contact helps... silly thing is.. lack of it has been shown to lower immune systems | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance I dont mean just sex. I mean any sort of intimacy. It really will be of huge detriment to people. I couldn't give a monkey's about some random shag from a stranger but someone I care for. Holding them.... that's what will impact most yes lack of physical human contact has terrible effects on the mental and physical health. A hug.. sex.. any form of physical contact helps... silly thing is.. lack of it has been shown to lower immune systems " I know
All this hand sanitizing and washing will reduce immune systems and prevent people from building up healthy immune systems.
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"Most people won't stand for not being able to hug their children, grandparents ect. There comes a time when we are all going to have Make a choice about risk and The need for human contact. Yes at the moment it is too soon but unless we get a vaccine in the next couple of months which looks unlikely. I think people will pretty much take the view it's worth the risk. Personally when it comes to meeting people from here, for me that will not happen until I feel it's safe enough it doesn't matter how long that takes. However I am not single it must be very difficult for people are single and live alone. " As a guy with no siblings and friends all over the place I can confirm that it is almost impossible! The mental anguish of only conversing over the pho e has been difficult | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for touch. Touch deprivation is well documented. Granted that the following isn’t from a peer reviewed source, but is written by a therapist https://psychcentral.com/blog/covid-19-and-touch-deprivation/ If relationships are solid and emotionally intimate, I'm not convinced that being deprived of touch alone would have long lasting devastating consequences " That’s your opinion, but it is contrary to the body of empirical evidence. It’s not necessarily about the strength of a particular relationship either, or maintaining a relationship. E.g. it is particularly profound among older adults, and these are the ones who are more likely to receive minimal amounts of touch, especially during covid times. | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for touch. Touch deprivation is well documented. Granted that the following isn’t from a peer reviewed source, but is written by a therapist https://psychcentral.com/blog/covid-19-and-touch-deprivation/ If relationships are solid and emotionally intimate, I'm not convinced that being deprived of touch alone would have long lasting devastating consequences That’s your opinion, but it is contrary to the body of empirical evidence. It’s not necessarily about the strength of a particular relationship either, or maintaining a relationship. E.g. it is particularly profound among older adults, and these are the ones who are more likely to receive minimal amounts of touch, especially during covid times. " Is there empirical evidence where touch is the only variable being measured? | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for touch. Touch deprivation is well documented. Granted that the following isn’t from a peer reviewed source, but is written by a therapist https://psychcentral.com/blog/covid-19-and-touch-deprivation/ If relationships are solid and emotionally intimate, I'm not convinced that being deprived of touch alone would have long lasting devastating consequences That’s your opinion, but it is contrary to the body of empirical evidence. It’s not necessarily about the strength of a particular relationship either, or maintaining a relationship. E.g. it is particularly profound among older adults, and these are the ones who are more likely to receive minimal amounts of touch, especially during covid times. Is there empirical evidence where touch is the only variable being measured?" Most likely... go and research it. | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for touch. Touch deprivation is well documented. Granted that the following isn’t from a peer reviewed source, but is written by a therapist https://psychcentral.com/blog/covid-19-and-touch-deprivation/ If relationships are solid and emotionally intimate, I'm not convinced that being deprived of touch alone would have long lasting devastating consequences That’s your opinion, but it is contrary to the body of empirical evidence. It’s not necessarily about the strength of a particular relationship either, or maintaining a relationship. E.g. it is particularly profound among older adults, and these are the ones who are more likely to receive minimal amounts of touch, especially during covid times. Is there empirical evidence where touch is the only variable being measured?" Look up Harlow’s monkeys. Although obviously due ethical reasons this isn’t something that can be manipulated as an independent variable in recent research, so research tends to be correlational. To be fair, correlation doesn’t equal causation, but there is a lot of consensus touch deprivation is well established. | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance I dont mean just sex. I mean any sort of intimacy. It really will be of huge detriment to people. I couldn't give a monkey's about some random shag from a stranger but someone I care for. Holding them.... that's what will impact most yes lack of physical human contact has terrible effects on the mental and physical health. A hug.. sex.. any form of physical contact helps... silly thing is.. lack of it has been shown to lower immune systems I know
All this hand sanitizing and washing will reduce immune systems and prevent people from building up healthy immune systems.
"Yes and unfortunately its causing a major relapse in my normally well managed OCD. The effects of this are far reaching. | |||
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"The logic I fail to see is how people can work less than 2m apart yet cant indulge with a Fwb sexually? The mental shit living on your own and having zero connection to the outside world will massively impact some people. There has to be a reason behind this making sex illegal but unsure what. It cant be just health.... the other reasoning has all been financially geared I think if it's just having no sex that is impacting on someone's mental health, the issues go beyond those caused by lockdown. There are still lots of ways to feel connected, especially now we can meet with others, albeit at a distance It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for touch. Touch deprivation is well documented. Granted that the following isn’t from a peer reviewed source, but is written by a therapist https://psychcentral.com/blog/covid-19-and-touch-deprivation/ If relationships are solid and emotionally intimate, I'm not convinced that being deprived of touch alone would have long lasting devastating consequences That’s your opinion, but it is contrary to the body of empirical evidence. It’s not necessarily about the strength of a particular relationship either, or maintaining a relationship. E.g. it is particularly profound among older adults, and these are the ones who are more likely to receive minimal amounts of touch, especially during covid times. Is there empirical evidence where touch is the only variable being measured? Most likely... go and research it. " I have a PhD in this area so I’m nerding out haha | |||
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year. Soma social outdoor meet with social distancing is already allowed, but being able to touch and play I think will be out for the rest of the year Some however will Play a numbers game and take a risk I suspect I firmly believe that ALL restrictions will be gone before the end of July. Cal So mass gatherings will be allowed ie football, concerts etc by the end of July?! " "So mass gatherings will be allowed ie football, concerts etc by the end of July?!" I'm with you on this, I don't believe ALL restrictions would have gone by end of July as the previous poster said. Hopefully meets will take place by then, but Mass gatherings are unlikely to happen until sometime later than July. | |||
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"People do their own risk assessments all the time for things to life. Earlier in this disease, younger men were seen to be the highest breakers of the lockdown rules. Expect that to be reflected sexually too. " Unless these men are gay it's not going to work! People will meet in time if they want to illegal or not it's human nature. | |||
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"Good god ... seriously sex is sex I’m sure it won’t kill anyone to go without. I know for absolute certainly a few years Celibacy won’t kills you it’s purely selfish to claim ‘mental health ‘ or ‘physical intimacy’ ..... Jesus " as already pointed out its not just about sex.. and it's not selfish to claim its mental health either... lack of physical touch is very damaging to many of us.. We are finding that people with no previous mental health issues struggling at present..and by far the biggest problem people seem to be calling up with is the lack of physical contact with others when living alone... suicides are up.. So maybe for you no contact is no big deal... but for majority of people it is. And it is damaging to physical as well as mental health. And I for one wont be waiting years as a single person to be having sex. | |||
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"Most people won't stand for not being able to hug their children, grandparents ect. There comes a time when we are all going to have Make a choice about risk and The need for human contact. Yes at the moment it is too soon but unless we get a vaccine in the next couple of months which looks unlikely. I think people will pretty much take the view it's worth the risk. Personally when it comes to meeting people from here, for me that will not happen until I feel it's safe enough it doesn't matter how long that takes. However I am not single it must be very difficult for people are single and live alone. " Pretty much this. I am single and I'm already at the point where I need that interaction of just a hug. So much so that it's really getting me down now . I can't wait to be able to get one from those closest too me. There is no way I can wait until next year | |||
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"Good god ... seriously sex is sex I’m sure it won’t kill anyone to go without. I know for absolute certainly a few years Celibacy won’t kills you it’s purely selfish to claim ‘mental health ‘ or ‘physical intimacy’ ..... Jesus as already pointed out its not just about sex.. and it's not selfish to claim its mental health either... lack of physical touch is very damaging to many of us.. We are finding that people with no previous mental health issues struggling at present..and by far the biggest problem people seem to be calling up with is the lack of physical contact with others when living alone... suicides are up.. So maybe for you no contact is no big deal... but for majority of people it is. And it is damaging to physical as well as mental health. And I for one wont be waiting years as a single person to be having sex. " | |||
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"It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for physical touch. There was a study carried out by Spitz in the 1940s where babies were separated into two groups, both raised in a sterile environment but one group without physical contact. After 4 months almost half of the babies without touch died and they stopped the experiment Anyone that thinks that touch isn’t important isn’t familiar with the studies in this area " Supposing that prior to coronavirus, someone hasn't been affected by any kind of skin hunger-is 3 months without going to have a profound effect? | |||
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"It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for physical touch. There was a study carried out by Spitz in the 1940s where babies were separated into two groups, both raised in a sterile environment but one group without physical contact. After 4 months almost half of the babies without touch died and they stopped the experiment Anyone that thinks that touch isn’t important isn’t familiar with the studies in this area " That’s not exactly what happened in Spitz’s research. He didn’t experiment on children but observed children under different conditions, with different levels of contact and compared their development. | |||
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"It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for physical touch. There was a study carried out by Spitz in the 1940s where babies were separated into two groups, both raised in a sterile environment but one group without physical contact. After 4 months almost half of the babies without touch died and they stopped the experiment Anyone that thinks that touch isn’t important isn’t familiar with the studies in this area Supposing that prior to coronavirus, someone hasn't been affected by any kind of skin hunger-is 3 months without going to have a profound effect?" yes.. it really will. Not all but I cant imagine these poor people stuck totally alone. I have a housefull since lockdown and did initially have a vanilla fwb move in... I still get to see my kids.. and I actually enjoy the alone time when I nip out. Or like this weekend when my oldest went out to meet mates.. omg it was bliss.. Funny enough I thought it would be much harder to keep my sexual addiction in check but the fact I have no option was awful at first but I've mostly got a handle on that now... but I miss the social and very tactile interactions with my friends... and actually having seen them recently made me feel worse than not seeing them. To be so close but not be able to have a hug.. it was awful. | |||
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"Good god ... seriously sex is sex I’m sure it won’t kill anyone to go without. I know for absolute certainly a few years Celibacy won’t kills you it’s purely selfish to claim ‘mental health ‘ or ‘physical intimacy’ ..... Jesus as already pointed out its not just about sex.. and it's not selfish to claim its mental health either... lack of physical touch is very damaging to many of us.. We are finding that people with no previous mental health issues struggling at present..and by far the biggest problem people seem to be calling up with is the lack of physical contact with others when living alone... suicides are up.. So maybe for you no contact is no big deal... but for majority of people it is. And it is damaging to physical as well as mental health. And I for one wont be waiting years as a single person to be having sex. " ... I prioritise (as a single person) my family and friends over meets with random fab-era for sex. Let’s not romantisise it .. people meeting when conditions are dodgy will be meeting anyone that will have them .... not my kind of ‘physical touch’ if you’re 10th that week. | |||
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"It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for physical touch. There was a study carried out by Spitz in the 1940s where babies were separated into two groups, both raised in a sterile environment but one group without physical contact. After 4 months almost half of the babies without touch died and they stopped the experiment Anyone that thinks that touch isn’t important isn’t familiar with the studies in this area That’s not exactly what happened in Spitz’s research. He didn’t experiment on children but observed children under different conditions, with different levels of contact and compared their development. " Touch is massively important a hug from my kids or my family or my friends absolutely! NSA sex? Nah I’ll live without until I can be sure my sexual appetite won’t put my loved ones at risk. If the only human touch people get is from a site like this that makes me very very sad for that person | |||
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"Most people won't stand for not being able to hug their children, grandparents ect. There comes a time when we are all going to have Make a choice about risk and The need for human contact. Yes at the moment it is too soon but unless we get a vaccine in the next couple of months which looks unlikely. I think people will pretty much take the view it's worth the risk. Personally when it comes to meeting people from here, for me that will not happen until I feel it's safe enough it doesn't matter how long that takes. However I am not single it must be very difficult for people are single and live alone. Pretty much this. I am single and I'm already at the point where I need that interaction of just a hug. So much so that it's really getting me down now . I can't wait to be able to get one from those closest too me. There is no way I can wait until next year " and you’ll find that from an NSA meet? Really? Don’t you have friends family? People that love you and want to be with you in a non sexual physical sense? People that you trust? I wouldn’t trust a fan male one hit wonder with my health that’s a certainty. | |||
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"It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for physical touch. There was a study carried out by Spitz in the 1940s where babies were separated into two groups, both raised in a sterile environment but one group without physical contact. After 4 months almost half of the babies without touch died and they stopped the experiment Anyone that thinks that touch isn’t important isn’t familiar with the studies in this area Supposing that prior to coronavirus, someone hasn't been affected by any kind of skin hunger-is 3 months without going to have a profound effect? yes.. it really will. Not all but I cant imagine these poor people stuck totally alone. I have a housefull since lockdown and did initially have a vanilla fwb move in... I still get to see my kids.. and I actually enjoy the alone time when I nip out. Or like this weekend when my oldest went out to meet mates.. omg it was bliss.. Funny enough I thought it would be much harder to keep my sexual addiction in check but the fact I have no option was awful at first but I've mostly got a handle on that now... but I miss the social and very tactile interactions with my friends... and actually having seen them recently made me feel worse than not seeing them. To be so close but not be able to have a hug.. it was awful. " It is awful not to hug friends isn’t it I almost wish I’d not seen my family as this part is the worst ... I feel you (well I can’t but you know what I mean) | |||
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"Good god ... seriously sex is sex I’m sure it won’t kill anyone to go without. I know for absolute certainly a few years Celibacy won’t kills you it’s purely selfish to claim ‘mental health ‘ or ‘physical intimacy’ ..... Jesus as already pointed out its not just about sex.. and it's not selfish to claim its mental health either... lack of physical touch is very damaging to many of us.. We are finding that people with no previous mental health issues struggling at present..and by far the biggest problem people seem to be calling up with is the lack of physical contact with others when living alone... suicides are up.. So maybe for you no contact is no big deal... but for majority of people it is. And it is damaging to physical as well as mental health. And I for one wont be waiting years as a single person to be having sex. ... I prioritise (as a single person) my family and friends over meets with random fab-era for sex. Let’s not romantisise it .. people meeting when conditions are dodgy will be meeting anyone that will have them .... not my kind of ‘physical touch’ if you’re 10th that week. " I think everyone on here prioritises there family and friends first.. although 99.9% of my friends are on here or swingers... and I disagree with your final statement. As there are a lot of people that are saying they want to meet their regular meets. I'm going without currently because my sexual contact usually comes from club meets only. Although I do have a club buddy and a fwb ( one of my few non fab friends) Not sure why being 10th that day matters though... but then I normally only do group play. | |||
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"Good god ... seriously sex is sex I’m sure it won’t kill anyone to go without. I know for absolute certainly a few years Celibacy won’t kills you it’s purely selfish to claim ‘mental health ‘ or ‘physical intimacy’ ..... Jesus as already pointed out its not just about sex.. and it's not selfish to claim its mental health either... lack of physical touch is very damaging to many of us.. We are finding that people with no previous mental health issues struggling at present..and by far the biggest problem people seem to be calling up with is the lack of physical contact with others when living alone... suicides are up.. So maybe for you no contact is no big deal... but for majority of people it is. And it is damaging to physical as well as mental health. And I for one wont be waiting years as a single person to be having sex. ... I prioritise (as a single person) my family and friends over meets with random fab-era for sex. Let’s not romantisise it .. people meeting when conditions are dodgy will be meeting anyone that will have them .... not my kind of ‘physical touch’ if you’re 10th that week. I think everyone on here prioritises there family and friends first.. although 99.9% of my friends are on here or swingers... and I disagree with your final statement. As there are a lot of people that are saying they want to meet their regular meets. I'm going without currently because my sexual contact usually comes from club meets only. Although I do have a club buddy and a fwb ( one of my few non fab friends) Not sure why being 10th that day matters though... but then I normally only do group play." ... I guess I mean that the people less cautious about these things will be being less cautious in every part of their lives. If physical distancing isn’t a big deal then they’re more than likely have been more exposed. A regular FWB is totally different if you know and trust them but then you wouldn’t need fab meet adverts for that to happen would you? The 10the person would have of course mean you are mixing with 11 possibly infections people rather than 1. For me it’s not worth it for sex. I find it a little disturbing that people’s only form of human contact is from meets on a swinging site. I don’t mean friends originally met on fab as I assume they’re moved to a different platform .. I mean new unknown nsa. | |||
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"It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for physical touch. There was a study carried out by Spitz in the 1940s where babies were separated into two groups, both raised in a sterile environment but one group without physical contact. After 4 months almost half of the babies without touch died and they stopped the experiment Anyone that thinks that touch isn’t important isn’t familiar with the studies in this area That’s not exactly what happened in Spitz’s research. He didn’t experiment on children but observed children under different conditions, with different levels of contact and compared their development. Touch is massively important a hug from my kids or my family or my friends absolutely! NSA sex? Nah I’ll live without until I can be sure my sexual appetite won’t put my loved ones at risk. If the only human touch people get is from a site like this that makes me very very sad for that person "Some people aren't lucky enough to have friends and family | |||
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"It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for physical touch. There was a study carried out by Spitz in the 1940s where babies were separated into two groups, both raised in a sterile environment but one group without physical contact. After 4 months almost half of the babies without touch died and they stopped the experiment Anyone that thinks that touch isn’t important isn’t familiar with the studies in this area That’s not exactly what happened in Spitz’s research. He didn’t experiment on children but observed children under different conditions, with different levels of contact and compared their development. Touch is massively important a hug from my kids or my family or my friends absolutely! NSA sex? Nah I’ll live without until I can be sure my sexual appetite won’t put my loved ones at risk. If the only human touch people get is from a site like this that makes me very very sad for that person
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"Good god ... seriously sex is sex I’m sure it won’t kill anyone to go without. I know for absolute certainly a few years Celibacy won’t kills you it’s purely selfish to claim ‘mental health ‘ or ‘physical intimacy’ ..... Jesus as already pointed out its not just about sex.. and it's not selfish to claim its mental health either... lack of physical touch is very damaging to many of us.. We are finding that people with no previous mental health issues struggling at present..and by far the biggest problem people seem to be calling up with is the lack of physical contact with others when living alone... suicides are up.. So maybe for you no contact is no big deal... but for majority of people it is. And it is damaging to physical as well as mental health. And I for one wont be waiting years as a single person to be having sex. ... I prioritise (as a single person) my family and friends over meets with random fab-era for sex. Let’s not romantisise it .. people meeting when conditions are dodgy will be meeting anyone that will have them .... not my kind of ‘physical touch’ if you’re 10th that week. I think everyone on here prioritises there family and friends first.. although 99.9% of my friends are on here or swingers... and I disagree with your final statement. As there are a lot of people that are saying they want to meet their regular meets. I'm going without currently because my sexual contact usually comes from club meets only. Although I do have a club buddy and a fwb ( one of my few non fab friends) Not sure why being 10th that day matters though... but then I normally only do group play. ... I guess I mean that the people less cautious about these things will be being less cautious in every part of their lives. If physical distancing isn’t a big deal then they’re more than likely have been more exposed. A regular FWB is totally different if you know and trust them but then you wouldn’t need fab meet adverts for that to happen would you? The 10the person would have of course mean you are mixing with 11 possibly infections people rather than 1. For me it’s not worth it for sex. I find it a little disturbing that people’s only form of human contact is from meets on a swinging site. I don’t mean friends originally met on fab as I assume they’re moved to a different platform .. I mean new unknown nsa. " Good Point | |||
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"It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for physical touch. There was a study carried out by Spitz in the 1940s where babies were separated into two groups, both raised in a sterile environment but one group without physical contact. After 4 months almost half of the babies without touch died and they stopped the experiment Anyone that thinks that touch isn’t important isn’t familiar with the studies in this area That’s not exactly what happened in Spitz’s research. He didn’t experiment on children but observed children under different conditions, with different levels of contact and compared their development. Touch is massively important a hug from my kids or my family or my friends absolutely! NSA sex? Nah I’ll live without until I can be sure my sexual appetite won’t put my loved ones at risk. If the only human touch people get is from a site like this that makes me very very sad for that person
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"It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for physical touch. There was a study carried out by Spitz in the 1940s where babies were separated into two groups, both raised in a sterile environment but one group without physical contact. After 4 months almost half of the babies without touch died and they stopped the experiment Anyone that thinks that touch isn’t important isn’t familiar with the studies in this area That’s not exactly what happened in Spitz’s research. He didn’t experiment on children but observed children under different conditions, with different levels of contact and compared their development. Touch is massively important a hug from my kids or my family or my friends absolutely! NSA sex? Nah I’ll live without until I can be sure my sexual appetite won’t put my loved ones at risk. If the only human touch people get is from a site like this that makes me very very sad for that person
Some people aren't lucky enough to have friends and family
That’s really awful xxxxx
For the record, I didn't mean me, I have more family than I know what to do with and I have some wickedly awesome friends "Haha I did check your profile and assumed it wasn’t you - good job I did as I was going to offer to be your friend and look a right tit  | |||
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"It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for physical touch. There was a study carried out by Spitz in the 1940s where babies were separated into two groups, both raised in a sterile environment but one group without physical contact. After 4 months almost half of the babies without touch died and they stopped the experiment Anyone that thinks that touch isn’t important isn’t familiar with the studies in this area That’s not exactly what happened in Spitz’s research. He didn’t experiment on children but observed children under different conditions, with different levels of contact and compared their development. Touch is massively important a hug from my kids or my family or my friends absolutely! NSA sex? Nah I’ll live without until I can be sure my sexual appetite won’t put my loved ones at risk. If the only human touch people get is from a site like this that makes me very very sad for that person
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"Most people won't stand for not being able to hug their children, grandparents ect. There comes a time when we are all going to have Make a choice about risk and The need for human contact. Yes at the moment it is too soon but unless we get a vaccine in the next couple of months which looks unlikely. I think people will pretty much take the view it's worth the risk. Personally when it comes to meeting people from here, for me that will not happen until I feel it's safe enough it doesn't matter how long that takes. However I am not single it must be very difficult for people are single and live alone. Pretty much this. I am single and I'm already at the point where I need that interaction of just a hug. So much so that it's really getting me down now . I can't wait to be able to get one from those closest too me. There is no way I can wait until next year and you’ll find that from an NSA meet? Really? Don’t you have friends family? People that love you and want to be with you in a non sexual physical sense? People that you trust? I wouldn’t trust a fan male one hit wonder with my health that’s a certainty." I'm not saying I'd look for a radom I've had the same friend with benefits for years. I hope to see him | |||
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"It’s not about sex, it’s about a biological need for physical touch. There was a study carried out by Spitz in the 1940s where babies were separated into two groups, both raised in a sterile environment but one group without physical contact. After 4 months almost half of the babies without touch died and they stopped the experiment Anyone that thinks that touch isn’t important isn’t familiar with the studies in this area That’s not exactly what happened in Spitz’s research. He didn’t experiment on children but observed children under different conditions, with different levels of contact and compared their development. Touch is massively important a hug from my kids or my family or my friends absolutely! NSA sex? Nah I’ll live without until I can be sure my sexual appetite won’t put my loved ones at risk. If the only human touch people get is from a site like this that makes me very very sad for that person
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That’s really awful xxxxx
For the record, I didn't mean me, I have more family than I know what to do with and I have some wickedly awesome friends
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year. Soma social outdoor meet with social distancing is already allowed, but being able to touch and play I think will be out for the rest of the year Some however will Play a numbers game and take a risk I suspect " So the governments viewpoint is important ? Does anyone seriously take what is ‘allowed’ and make it part of their life? ..... for those that use this as a filter, we are, we believe socially responsible, sensible people.... but if people expressing views is a filter, crack on! Filter, block. | |||
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"Most people won't stand for not being able to hug their children, grandparents ect. There comes a time when we are all going to have Make a choice about risk and The need for human contact. Yes at the moment it is too soon but unless we get a vaccine in the next couple of months which looks unlikely. I think people will pretty much take the view it's worth the risk. Personally when it comes to meeting people from here, for me that will not happen until I feel it's safe enough it doesn't matter how long that takes. However I am not single it must be very difficult for people are single and live alone. Pretty much this. I am single and I'm already at the point where I need that interaction of just a hug. So much so that it's really getting me down now . I can't wait to be able to get one from those closest too me. There is no way I can wait until next year and you’ll find that from an NSA meet? Really? Don’t you have friends family? People that love you and want to be with you in a non sexual physical sense? People that you trust? I wouldn’t trust a fan male one hit wonder with my health that’s a certainty." Okay so here you are considering whether people should have nsa meets, not whether close contact will be allowed soon. Once close contact with anyone is allowed, then meets will be allowed too. I personally would not want us to be in a situation where some close contact is allowed but there are laws governing who that should be with. This would indeed be a step too far I imagine that once close contact is allowed there will be the same advice as surrounding meeting people outside now- avoid meeting people from multiple households in quick succession I personally will not be using this site as I do during normal times any time in the near future. But as soon as I can meet my fb, then it’s on. Other people will find new meets on here or might use the site to find a covid fwb. Hopefully the majority will use good judgement and won’t meet 10 people in a week, but some will. But having laws dictating the nature of the close contact we have, and who exactly we can have that with, no thanks. | |||
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"The risks to mental health let alone civil society could possibly be greater than not allowing people to meet the government is doing its maths....and will allow meeeting..already domestic murders have risen in many areas. The press are just playing them down.. Agreed. It’s not just about sex. We have a biological need for touch and it will get to a point where the impact on mental health will outweigh the risks from the virus. People who live alone would start to need this and break the rules eventually, we are literally fighting human nature. It is easy to label these people as selfish if you don’t live alone and are able to have this fundamental human need met. " This exactly ! | |||
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"Most people won't stand for not being able to hug their children, grandparents ect. There comes a time when we are all going to have Make a choice about risk and The need for human contact. Yes at the moment it is too soon but unless we get a vaccine in the next couple of months which looks unlikely. I think people will pretty much take the view it's worth the risk. Personally when it comes to meeting people from here, for me that will not happen until I feel it's safe enough it doesn't matter how long that takes. However I am not single it must be very difficult for people are single and live alone. Pretty much this. I am single and I'm already at the point where I need that interaction of just a hug. So much so that it's really getting me down now . I can't wait to be able to get one from those closest too me. There is no way I can wait until next year and you’ll find that from an NSA meet? Really? Don’t you have friends family? People that love you and want to be with you in a non sexual physical sense? People that you trust? I wouldn’t trust a fan male one hit wonder with my health that’s a certainty." I wouldn't trust a Fab one hit wonder either (some of the females are as crazy as some of the men) but this situation really sucks. I think all/most of my physical affection in the last couple of years has been through Fab or people I have known and stayed in touch with via Fab. Right now it is zero with no real prospect of it changing for months, perhaps not this year, and part of me is dying and taking me back to places I have been in the past I don't want to visit again. Right now at home with teenage kids who don't hug Dad as they are teenage kids and soon to be ex-wife from whom I was separated but now stuck together for a little longer. Certainly no hugs from her - on the contrary makes me realise what I miss even more. Even if meet friends and family it is 2 meters apart. No easy answers to this depressing clusterfuck. | |||
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"We agree nothing is going to happen this year . Hopefully the clubs can ride it out till 2021 . "If the existing clubs don't others will open and take their place. More worried about some individuals being able to ride it out until 2021. | |||
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year. Soma social outdoor meet with social distancing is already allowed, but being able to touch and play I think will be out for the rest of the year Some however will Play a numbers game and take a risk I suspect " Where is the fact on this, or is it just an assumption based on fake news? The government can't keep people away from each other for that long as it smacks of 1984 and a dictatorship ruling population growth. Humans need interaction. They can not prevent relationships between people, its not natural. People will break the rules knowing that they will not receive a criminal record (it's only rules). Try telling a fresh new under-twenties couple not to meet and see what happens? | |||
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"I was quite hopeful for aug September till I heard there could still be 8000 new cases a day! " The more of us who actually get it and recover the better, don't sit indoors waiting for a vaccine because it's not happening for a while! | |||
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"Can someone please just give me a straight answer to my question please CAN WE MEET UP WITH A FRIEND NOW AND THEN HAVE SOME SEXY FUN WITH EACH OTHER???" No | |||
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"That's my bloody luck then " Did you not understand the 2m social distancing guideline? | |||
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"If all goes well and statistical predictions are right, UK should see 0 deaths by end of July / beginning of August so hopefully these predictions are correct and we will go wild from August : ) : ) " Oh I hope so! | |||
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"The risks to mental health let alone civil society could possibly be greater than not allowing people to meet the government is doing its maths....and will allow meeeting..already domestic murders have risen in many areas. The press are just playing them down.. Agreed. It’s not just about sex. We have a biological need for touch and it will get to a point where the impact on mental health will outweigh the risks from the virus. People who live alone would start to need this and break the rules eventually, we are literally fighting human nature. It is easy to label these people as selfish if you don’t live alone and are able to have this fundamental human need met. " Agreed | |||
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"I've wrote this year off for that sort of thing. Roll on 2021" Me too. April 2021 is my target date but not counting on it for a sure thing. Saw an incredibly hot lady in the Tesco que recently but thought jut switched off. My biggest fear is loss of condfidence with a new person. Being slightly autistic, going to clubs were a big asset to building my confidence meeting new people and relaxing in a social setting. It's easy and hard for me. I may just stop doing nsa meets and going to swing clubs. | |||
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"Didn't want to start yet another thread to post this. But I have witnessed two brazen examples of total disregard for any risks now. Just now a fem stated which nights she was free for meets and which nights she was working as a key worker! " And the rest of the circumstances are ? | |||
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"Didn't want to start yet another thread to post this. But I have witnessed two brazen examples of total disregard for any risks now. Just now a fem stated which nights she was free for meets and which nights she was working as a key worker! And the rest of the circumstances are ?" you mean the other example? Well according to a screenshot to me from one woman, fab veris for meets can still be left during lockdown, they're simply not published for the time being. This woman had at least four different meets with four different men over the past two months. Again, she admitted to being a key worker. This woman sent me the screen shot then blocked me. I can't work out her agenda but thought fab moderators might like to know but she is still online. | |||
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"Didn't want to start yet another thread to post this. But I have witnessed two brazen examples of total disregard for any risks now. Just now a fem stated which nights she was free for meets and which nights she was working as a key worker! And the rest of the circumstances are ? you mean the other example? Well according to a screenshot to me from one woman, fab veris for meets can still be left during lockdown, they're simply not published for the time being. This woman had at least four different meets with four different men over the past two months. Again, she admitted to being a key worker. This woman sent me the screen shot then blocked me. I can't work out her agenda but thought fab moderators might like to know but she is still online. " Send it to the mods and they will deal with it. | |||
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"Didn't want to start yet another thread to post this. But I have witnessed two brazen examples of total disregard for any risks now. Just now a fem stated which nights she was free for meets and which nights she was working as a key worker! And the rest of the circumstances are ? you mean the other example? Well according to a screenshot to me from one woman, fab veris for meets can still be left during lockdown, they're simply not published for the time being. This woman had at least four different meets with four different men over the past two months. Again, she admitted to being a key worker. This woman sent me the screen shot then blocked me. I can't work out her agenda but thought fab moderators might like to know but she is still online. Send it to the mods and they will deal with it." Already did a week ago but she's been appearing regularly online still. I've taken a screenshot of her screenshot of veris too but nobody has contacted me about it. | |||
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"Didn't want to start yet another thread to post this. But I have witnessed two brazen examples of total disregard for any risks now. Just now a fem stated which nights she was free for meets and which nights she was working as a key worker! And the rest of the circumstances are ? you mean the other example? Well according to a screenshot to me from one woman, fab veris for meets can still be left during lockdown, they're simply not published for the time being. This woman had at least four different meets with four different men over the past two months. Again, she admitted to being a key worker. This woman sent me the screen shot then blocked me. I can't work out her agenda but thought fab moderators might like to know but she is still online. Send it to the mods and they will deal with it.Already did a week ago but she's been appearing regularly online still. I've taken a screenshot of her screenshot of veris too but nobody has contacted me about it. " You seem obsessed with her? The mods will deal with it. | |||
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"I've seen one or two advertising for meets during lockdown. Not good. I have seen loads, meets are happening all the time " Usually arranged through social media, telephone or text messaging, bypassing Fab altogether. | |||
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"Didn't want to start yet another thread to post this. But I have witnessed two brazen examples of total disregard for any risks now. Just now a fem stated which nights she was free for meets and which nights she was working as a key worker! And the rest of the circumstances are ? you mean the other example? Well according to a screenshot to me from one woman, fab veris for meets can still be left during lockdown, they're simply not published for the time being. This woman had at least four different meets with four different men over the past two months. Again, she admitted to being a key worker. This woman sent me the screen shot then blocked me. I can't work out her agenda but thought fab moderators might like to know but she is still online. Send it to the mods and they will deal with it.Already did a week ago but she's been appearing regularly online still. I've taken a screenshot of her screenshot of veris too but nobody has contacted me about it. You seem obsessed with her? The mods will deal with it. " Hardly. I mentioned the new example, someone asked me about the previous example with the screen shots. I merely responded to your suggestion that the mods would act upon reporting which isn't the case here. I think the climate of feeling has shifted since Cummings. The consensus was that if you broke lock down rules you were an idiot and selfish. Now the stance has softened from people being brazen to people being indifferent. | |||
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"Didn't want to start yet another thread to post this. But I have witnessed two brazen examples of total disregard for any risks now. Just now a fem stated which nights she was free for meets and which nights she was working as a key worker! And the rest of the circumstances are ? you mean the other example? Well according to a screenshot to me from one woman, fab veris for meets can still be left during lockdown, they're simply not published for the time being. This woman had at least four different meets with four different men over the past two months. Again, she admitted to being a key worker. This woman sent me the screen shot then blocked me. I can't work out her agenda but thought fab moderators might like to know but she is still online. Send it to the mods and they will deal with it.Already did a week ago but she's been appearing regularly online still. I've taken a screenshot of her screenshot of veris too but nobody has contacted me about it. You seem obsessed with her? The mods will deal with it. Hardly. I mentioned the new example, someone asked me about the previous example with the screen shots. I merely responded to your suggestion that the mods would act upon reporting which isn't the case here. I think the climate of feeling has shifted since Cummings. The consensus was that if you broke lock down rules you were an idiot and selfish. Now the stance has softened from people being brazen to people being indifferent. " People think that taking risks is ok. It’s not. Report her again to the mods if you are this upset about her that you mention her on a thread and the job she does. | |||
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"We can meet who ever we want just do it stop letting the government control your lives haha " | |||
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year. Soma social outdoor meet with social distancing is already allowed, but being able to touch and play I think will be out for the rest of the year Some however will Play a numbers game and take a risk I suspect " The doom & gloom agency strikes again ....: | |||
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year." Bubbles start from tomorrow | |||
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"True, people being able to do whatever they like behind closed doors has been enshrined in common law for centuries. Government can only control what you do in a public place, i.e. when you leave your home. Hence, all new guidelines have been focussed on reasons for leaving home. Everyone will have their own breaking point or risk management level. Mine will be Corvid Alert level 3 ( July ). If you are physically well - no symptoms - you take your temperature everyday - then cannot see problem between two consenting and healthy adults. Support Bubbles will be used as a loophole for sure by horny peeps ... " As Hancock said today -approx 80% of infections are asymptomatic so it's not so simple | |||
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"NEWSFLASH, Gov can't stop folks from meeting in private dwellings, and it certainly can't be policed, folks need to stop watching puppetmedia TV, and take a look around you to what actually happens in the "real world not the media world, they are far removed from reality " | |||
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year. Bubbles start from tomorrow "Yes but only for some people. | |||
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"There seem to be a lot of very overly paranoid people about ..." Do you know anyone who has died? My friend lost her life due to complications of COVID. The infection damaged her lungs, spleen, kidneys and liver, and she died of kidney failure, which is a horrible way to go. She was 25 years old and had a young daughter. When people say 'Oh, it's a hoax' or 'Oh, it's just paranoia'... it seems disrespectful to people who have died, and those who have lost loved ones, and those of us who are high risk. | |||
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"There seem to be a lot of very overly paranoid people about ... Do you know anyone who has died? My friend lost her life due to complications of COVID. The infection damaged her lungs, spleen, kidneys and liver, and she died of kidney failure, which is a horrible way to go. She was 25 years old and had a young daughter. When people say 'Oh, it's a hoax' or 'Oh, it's just paranoia'... it seems disrespectful to people who have died, and those who have lost loved ones, and those of us who are high risk. " Agree. My aunt was infected and my mum's friend died from the coronavirus quite early on in the pandemic. Some reasons for breaking the rules are more understandable than others. Breaking the rules to fuck is hard to accept. | |||
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"There is no evidence anywhere of a second wave, total fearmongering to mind control folks into a state of jello, in fact its actually mutating and weakening. " We have no evidence of either. We are dealing with a relative unknown. | |||
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"There is no evidence anywhere of a second wave, total fearmongering to mind control folks into a state of jello, in fact its actually mutating and weakening. We have no evidence of either. We are dealing with a relative unknown. " If the R rate does not start climbing again after all the protest taking place, then don’t you think it’s time to reduce the social distancing measures. | |||
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"There is no evidence anywhere of a second wave, total fearmongering to mind control folks into a state of jello, in fact its actually mutating and weakening. We have no evidence of either. We are dealing with a relative unknown. If the R rate does not start climbing again after all the protest taking place, then don’t you think it’s time to reduce the social distancing measures." They have already. | |||
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"There is no evidence anywhere of a second wave, total fearmongering to mind control folks into a state of jello, in fact its actually mutating and weakening. We have no evidence of either. We are dealing with a relative unknown. If the R rate does not start climbing again after all the protest taking place, then don’t you think it’s time to reduce the social distancing measures. They have already. " Apologies was more referring to the two meter rule. | |||
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"There is no evidence anywhere of a second wave, total fearmongering to mind control folks into a state of jello, in fact its actually mutating and weakening. We have no evidence of either. We are dealing with a relative unknown. If the R rate does not start climbing again after all the protest taking place, then don’t you think it’s time to reduce the social distancing measures. They have already. Apologies was more referring to the two meter rule." I think for now its better to be safe than sorry. If keeping 2 meters apart helps businesses start operating again its something we are going to have to live with for a bit longer. | |||
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"There is no evidence anywhere of a second wave, total fearmongering to mind control folks into a state of jello, in fact its actually mutating and weakening. We have no evidence of either. We are dealing with a relative unknown. If the R rate does not start climbing again after all the protest taking place, then don’t you think it’s time to reduce the social distancing measures. They have already. Apologies was more referring to the two meter rule. I think for now its better to be safe than sorry. If keeping 2 meters apart helps businesses start operating again its something we are going to have to live with for a bit longer. "I may be confused... But there is an argument for decreasing the distance from 2m to 1.5 or even 1 as other countries have done. Venues operating with 2m distancing means capacity is restricted so operating at a loss. | |||
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"Lots are meeting already and taking the risks . Lets hope their selfish actions dont kill people" Ridiculously sanctimonious post. I bet the second the 'government' says it's okay you'll be back to meeting, regardless of the science behind it. | |||
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"Lots are meeting already and taking the risks . Lets hope their selfish actions dont kill people Ridiculously sanctimonious post. I bet the second the 'government' says it's okay you'll be back to meeting, regardless of the science behind it." Isn't it better to act or be guided by something, even if it is a questionable government, than to act in self-interest. | |||
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"4 cases of ebola in Congo in February 2020. We got flu happening from Sept.. There will be 2nd strain or variation of covid happening again" usually virus mutations weaken thankfully | |||
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"However I cut it or think about it, I cannot see the government allowing anyone from another household meeting another person(s) from another household and not maintain 2m social distancing for at least the rest of this year. Soma social outdoor meet with social distancing is already allowed, but being able to touch and play I think will be out for the rest of the year Some however will Play a numbers game and take a risk I suspect " Bubble rules now allow this as long as one of you is a single adult household.... | |||
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"4 cases of ebola in Congo in February 2020. We got flu happening from Sept.. There will be 2nd strain or variation of covid happening again" Agree. It ain't over yet. Just when you'll think it's safe someting will pop up. | |||
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"When viruses mutate they weaken, it's already happening. Everything will be open by Christmas including discos. " I can wait for the meeting G20 and Cobra meeting | |||
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. " The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to | |||
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. " If you're referring to furlough payments etc. they do NOT finish at the end of August. If you're happy to let the sacrifices made, not only in loss of life, but in other ways go to waste then I sincerely hope nothing more happens.. | |||
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to "... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc.  | |||
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc. "What planet are you on have you seen the idiots running around in London Screaming and spitting on people injuring people and destroying property Get a grip I think it’s a bit late for that now get them all back to work that’s if the great unwashed have ever work a day in there life ffs | |||
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc.
What planet are you on have you seen the idiots running around in London
Screaming and spitting on people injuring people and destroying property
Get a grip
I think it’s a bit late for that now get them all back to work that’s if the great unwashed have ever work a day in there life ffs
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc.
What planet are you on have you seen the idiots running around in London
Screaming and spitting on people injuring people and destroying property
Get a grip
I think it’s a bit late for that now get them all back to work that’s if the great unwashed have ever work a day in there life ffs
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc.
What planet are you on have you seen the idiots running around in London
Screaming and spitting on people injuring people and destroying property
Get a grip
I think it’s a bit late for that now get them all back to work that’s if the great unwashed have ever work a day in there life ffs
Your entitled to your opinion as am I. "Exactly. Its a shame not everyone can give an option without getting their kickers in a twist. | |||
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc. "All the work has just been undone over the course of the last two weekends. | |||
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc.
What planet are you on have you seen the idiots running around in London
Screaming and spitting on people injuring people and destroying property
Get a grip
I think it’s a bit late for that now get them all back to work that’s if the great unwashed have ever work a day in there life ffs
Your entitled to your opinion as am I.
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"Oh to live a life without empathy "The voice of reason as always. | |||
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"Oh to live a life without empathy
The voice of reason as always. "Haha, when was I ever the voice of reason? | |||
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc.
What planet are you on have you seen the idiots running around in London
Screaming and spitting on people injuring people and destroying property
Get a grip
I think it’s a bit late for that now get them all back to work that’s if the great unwashed have ever work a day in there life ffs
Not everyone can go back to work!
"And some don’t want to go back to work as they getting paid to putting a nice arse dint in the sofa And when they do go back and the company folds they will all blame every other person but them selves selfish pricks most of em iv been self employed for over 35 years iv seen it with my own eyes | |||
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc.
What planet are you on have you seen the idiots running around in London
Screaming and spitting on people injuring people and destroying property
Get a grip
I think it’s a bit late for that now get them all back to work that’s if the great unwashed have ever work a day in there life ffs
Not everyone can go back to work!
And some don’t want to go back to work as they getting paid to putting a nice arse dint in the sofa
And when they do go back and the company folds they will all blame every other person but them selves selfish pricks most of em iv been self employed for over 35 years iv seen it with my own eyes
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc.
What planet are you on have you seen the idiots running around in London
Screaming and spitting on people injuring people and destroying property
Get a grip
I think it’s a bit late for that now get them all back to work that’s if the great unwashed have ever work a day in there life ffs
Not everyone can go back to work!
And some don’t want to go back to work as they getting paid to putting a nice arse dint in the sofa
And when they do go back and the company folds they will all blame every other person but them selves selfish pricks most of em iv been self employed for over 35 years iv seen it with my own eyes
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc.
What planet are you on have you seen the idiots running around in London
Screaming and spitting on people injuring people and destroying property
Get a grip
I think it’s a bit late for that now get them all back to work that’s if the great unwashed have ever work a day in there life ffs
Not everyone can go back to work!
And some don’t want to go back to work as they getting paid to putting a nice arse dint in the sofa
And when they do go back and the company folds they will all blame every other person but them selves selfish pricks most of em iv been self employed for over 35 years iv seen it with my own eyes
So people on furlough who can't go back to work are selfish pricks?
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc.
What planet are you on have you seen the idiots running around in London
Screaming and spitting on people injuring people and destroying property
Get a grip
I think it’s a bit late for that now get them all back to work that’s if the great unwashed have ever work a day in there life ffs
Not everyone can go back to work!
And some don’t want to go back to work as they getting paid to putting a nice arse dint in the sofa
And when they do go back and the company folds they will all blame every other person but them selves selfish pricks most of em iv been self employed for over 35 years iv seen it with my own eyes
So people on furlough who can't go back to work are selfish pricks?
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"Most will be up and running by the end of August, that's when the money stops. The money should stop now from Monday everyone should be back at work and get the country moving the protesters need to get back to work to
... and undo all the work done so far to stem the flow of infection etc.
What planet are you on have you seen the idiots running around in London
Screaming and spitting on people injuring people and destroying property
Get a grip
I think it’s a bit late for that now get them all back to work that’s if the great unwashed have ever work a day in there life ffs
Not everyone can go back to work!
And some don’t want to go back to work as they getting paid to putting a nice arse dint in the sofa
And when they do go back and the company folds they will all blame every other person but them selves selfish pricks most of em iv been self employed for over 35 years iv seen it with my own eyes
So people on furlough who can't go back to work are selfish pricks?
I’d say 50% are taking the piss if they not back in Monday
Where did you get that number from?
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"If all goes well and statistical predictions are right, UK should see 0 deaths by end of July / beginning of August so hopefully these predictions are correct and we will go wild from August : ) : ) " 6 weeks on and not looking likely will be able to go "wild" anytime soon, but let's see how it looks like in August | |||
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"If all goes well and statistical predictions are right, UK should see 0 deaths by end of July / beginning of August so hopefully these predictions are correct and we will go wild from August : ) : ) 6 weeks on and not looking likely will be able to go "wild" anytime soon, but let's see how it looks like in August "Last I recall was that m, after huge decline from the earlier major catastrophic levels of springtime, numbers were lower but fairly stable. We obviously need them to be far lower, before winter predicted big increases. As far casual sex, we need levels lower too and not to be increased by all of the relaxed restrictions. | |||
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"Unless these men are gay it's not going to work! People will meet in time if they want to illegal or not it's human nature." Unless these men are gay??? Seriously???? | |||
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"Meeting for sex now is the same as arse fucking in a gay sauna in the 1980s without a condom. Good luck idiots. " By your logic the chances are still low then | |||
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"Meeting for sex now is the same as arse fucking in a gay sauna in the 1980s without a condom. Good luck idiots. " Are you trying to compare Covid19 to HIV and Aids in gay men? You do understand the differences dont you? | |||
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"I'm one of the "selfish" people meeting again. There socials in pubs, which makes me just a "irresponsible" as the millions of other in there, and the millions going to the beach forthe day and going on holiday. Just because at some point we will probably fuck doesn't make difference. " Your correct. You manage you own life. Its obvious the ones meeting are ignoring the doom mongers and making thier own decisions. People making thier own decisions. Who'd have thought it | |||
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