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 for the past couple of months I can’t even give my mum a hug at my garden gate so i didn’t think I could invite someone round for a threesome anyway  but illegal?
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"How can they enforce that lol "
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"How can they enforce that lol
D."lol just do they have the right to say who can come into your house or not ? | |||
"How can they enforce that lol
D. lol just do they have the right to say who can come into your house or not ? "I’m not sure, even that would be hard to police
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"Oh look another sensationalist headline from the bullshit / fear machine that is the media ." Yep, can't imagine that being on the six o'clock briefing! | |||
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"The actual guidance says in england you can walk through a person's house to access their garden and you can use their toilet. So my excuse is I'm having a major shit." and need help to achieve it  | |||
"The actual guidance says in england you can walk through a person's house to access their garden and you can use their toilet. So my excuse is I'm having a major shit.and need help to achieve it "That's called 'manual manipulation' or ... anal? Hmm | |||
"The actual guidance says in england you can walk through a person's house to access their garden and you can use their toilet. So my excuse is I'm having a major shit.and need help to achieve it
That's called 'manual manipulation' or ... anal? Hmm"yes, we've found a loop HOLE   | |||
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"What a load of twaddle, they can’t even police/enforce what happens outdoors let alone indoors " oooooo i know | |||
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"What a load of twaddle, they can’t even police/enforce what happens outdoors let alone indoors oooooo i know "Ohhh I know for a fact they can  | |||
"What a load of twaddle, they can’t even police/enforce what happens outdoors let alone indoors oooooo i know
Ohhh I know for a fact they can "lol hey you're an arresting sight | |||
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"None of it makes sense. All the rules contradict each other. "  | |||
"How can they enforce that lol
D. lol just do they have the right to say who can come into your house or not ?
I’m not sure, even that would be hard to police
D."trust me some police would join in Haha. | |||
"Even if you are caught and fined it's only £50 if you pay it in first 2 weeks. Compare that to price of hotel room for example and there's many that won't find that much of a deterrent " none of the hotels are open though not even mine | |||
"Even if you are caught and fined it's only £50 if you pay it in first 2 weeks. Compare that to price of hotel room for example and there's many that won't find that much of a deterrent none of the hotels are open though not even mine "Oh it was just a price comparison as to level of fine not being a big deterrent for many | |||
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"Yet kids are allowed to go from one parents house to the others" And soon to return to school in classes of 15 | |||
"Yet kids are allowed to go from one parents house to the others" exactly and the schools are reopening | |||
"What a load of twaddle, they can’t even police/enforce what happens outdoors let alone indoors oooooo i know
Ohhh I know for a fact they can lol hey you're an arresting sight ""Freeze, put em up" | |||
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"Yet kids are allowed to go from one parents house to the othersexactly and the schools are reopening "my kids don't go from house to house so their dad visits them here. Its not the first time I've broke the law and it won't be the last. Lol | |||
"Yet kids are allowed to go from one parents house to the othersexactly and the schools are reopening my kids don't go from house to house so their dad visits them here. Its not the first time I've broke the law and it won't be the last. Lol "hey but keep it to yourself you don't know whos reading lol | |||
"What a load of twaddle, they can’t even police/enforce what happens outdoors let alone indoors oooooo i know
Ohhh I know for a fact they can lol hey you're an arresting sight
"Freeze, put em up" "pud em uuuuuuup | |||
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"http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/558/pdfs/uksi_20200558_en.pdf Regulation 7 (starting on page 4) - any 'gathering' not on that list of exclusions will be illegal after 11.30am.." It's a regulation, not a law. Laws are enforceable regulations aren't. Nowhere does it state the word illegal. | |||
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"Oh according to some people they can tell you what to do in your own home. Well a police officer did try that with me, stopped him at my front gate and said your jurisdiction stops there. He mentioned something about obtaining a court warrant if he had to. I told him to make sure he brought the insurance certificate that secures the warrant because if he doesn't, then he is personally liable for the trespass on my property. He looked confused so I put it to him in plain English, if I take my car a private vehicle onto a public road, it has to be insured, some thing applies if a public servant wishes to come onto my private property, he must be insured. With that he left, this is how I know this works. Governments work for us we employ them, they don't do as they are told then it's P45 time. Your home is your castle you do what you want in your private home" | |||
"Oh according to some people they can tell you what to do in your own home. Well a police officer did try that with me, stopped him at my front gate and said your jurisdiction stops there. He mentioned something about obtaining a court warrant if he had to. I told him to make sure he brought the insurance certificate that secures the warrant because if he doesn't, then he is personally liable for the trespass on my property. He looked confused so I put it to him in plain English, if I take my car a private vehicle onto a public road, it has to be insured, some thing applies if a public servant wishes to come onto my private property, he must be insured. With that he left, this is how I know this works. Governments work for us we employ them, they don't do as they are told then it's P45 time. Your home is your castle you do what you want in your private home" | |||
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"http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/558/pdfs/uksi_20200558_en.pdf Regulation 7 (starting on page 4) - any 'gathering' not on that list of exclusions will be illegal after 11.30am.. It's a regulation, not a law. Laws are enforceable regulations aren't. Nowhere does it state the word illegal. " Sorry but regulations are enforceable in law & sit alongside Acts. | |||
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"The actual guidance says in england you can walk through a person's house to access their garden and you can use their toilet. So my excuse is I'm having a major shit." They'll demand to see the evidence! | |||
"Oh according to some people they can tell you what to do in your own home. Well a police officer did try that with me, stopped him at my front gate and said your jurisdiction stops there. He mentioned something about obtaining a court warrant if he had to. I told him to make sure he brought the insurance certificate that secures the warrant because if he doesn't, then he is personally liable for the trespass on my property. He looked confused so I put it to him in plain English, if I take my car a private vehicle onto a public road, it has to be insured, some thing applies if a public servant wishes to come onto my private property, he must be insured. With that he left, this is how I know this works. Governments work for us we employ them, they don't do as they are told then it's P45 time. Your home is your castle you do what you want in your private home" There's so much bull in that fairytale we're no going to even start.. maybe open up with once upon a time for the next one. And were not surprised the copper looked confused.. it wasn't with your clearly superior grasp of the law though | |||
"Even if you are caught and fined it's only £50 if you pay it in first 2 weeks. Compare that to price of hotel room for example and there's many that won't find that much of a deterrent " Ha ha very true, they clearly didn't consider swingers who pay that anyway for a space to have a little romp about lol Although if you do it in your garden, it's perfectly within the rules, only broken rule is not observing social distancing. Too many loopholes, and too many people have had enough of lock down for various reasons | |||
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"None of it makes sense. All the rules contradict each other. " Indeed. I can't sit in the canteen at work with colleagues, or make a cup of tea as they can't clean the kettle between use but I can sit in a packed tube, cheek by jowl with other commuters. Good thing I have an iq higher than my shoe size to apply commonsense and protect myself as best I can. | |||
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"Even if you are caught and fined it's only £50 if you pay it in first 2 weeks. Compare that to price of hotel room for example and there's many that won't find that much of a deterrent Ha ha very true, they clearly didn't consider swingers who pay that anyway for a space to have a little romp about lol Although if you do it in your garden, it's perfectly within the rules, only broken rule is not observing social distancing. Too many loopholes, and too many people have had enough of lock down for various reasons " Doing it in your garden is still 'potentially' illegal. It's a public decency offence. | |||
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"nelson Mandela was caged for over 20 years he survived and become the leader of the country that imprisoned him........... what does that say "Google RSA and see what has happened to a once civilised country and its people under the "civilising" influence of Mandella and his cronies. | |||
"Even if you are caught and fined it's only £50 if you pay it in first 2 weeks. Compare that to price of hotel room for example and there's many that won't find that much of a deterrent Ha ha very true, they clearly didn't consider swingers who pay that anyway for a space to have a little romp about lol Although if you do it in your garden, it's perfectly within the rules, only broken rule is not observing social distancing. Too many loopholes, and too many people have had enough of lock down for various reasons Doing it in your garden is still 'potentially' illegal. It's a public decency offence. " A public Indecency offence also comes with its own loopholes... One being that someone needs to have seen it and been offended by it.... So dont offend your neighbors, invite them round to watch lol | |||
"Even if you are caught and fined it's only £50 if you pay it in first 2 weeks. Compare that to price of hotel room for example and there's many that won't find that much of a deterrent Ha ha very true, they clearly didn't consider swingers who pay that anyway for a space to have a little romp about lol Although if you do it in your garden, it's perfectly within the rules, only broken rule is not observing social distancing. Too many loopholes, and too many people have had enough of lock down for various reasons Doing it in your garden is still 'potentially' illegal. It's a public decency offence. A public Indecency offence also comes with its own loopholes... One being that someone needs to have seen it and been offended by it.... So dont offend your neighbors, invite them round to watch lol " Ha ha. Depends if you fancy your neighbours doesn't it. 
They don't need to have seen it by the way. Only that someone could see it. Obviously it would require someone to see it to report it though ha ha | |||
"nelson Mandela was caged for over 20 years he survived and become the leader of the country that imprisoned him........... what does that say
Google RSA and see what has happened to a once civilised country and its people under the "civilising" influence of Mandella and his cronies. "As a south African who lived through the 1994 elections, Mandela didn't run the country long enough for his vision to be realised, he was too old to run a country by the time he was released.... So no the uncivilised unrest is nothing to do with him.... It went tits up with Jacob Zuma and his cronies over threw Mandela's choice replacement Thabo Mbeki.... Zuma won the popularity vote amongst people while Mbeki was out of the country trying to build investment relationships, and convinced people that Mbeki was an absent president because he wasnt out shaking hands with joe blog.... And that's my political history lesson for the day | |||
"Even if you are caught and fined it's only £50 if you pay it in first 2 weeks. Compare that to price of hotel room for example and there's many that won't find that much of a deterrent Ha ha very true, they clearly didn't consider swingers who pay that anyway for a space to have a little romp about lol Although if you do it in your garden, it's perfectly within the rules, only broken rule is not observing social distancing. Too many loopholes, and too many people have had enough of lock down for various reasons Doing it in your garden is still 'potentially' illegal. It's a public decency offence. A public Indecency offence also comes with its own loopholes... One being that someone needs to have seen it and been offended by it.... So dont offend your neighbors, invite them round to watch lol Ha ha. Depends if you fancy your neighbours doesn't it.
They don't need to have seen it by the way. Only that someone could see it. Obviously it would require someone to see it to report it though ha ha"We'll tbh my elderly neighbors may have a heart attack from the excitement lol.... They are both lovely though | |||
"Even if you are caught and fined it's only £50 if you pay it in first 2 weeks. Compare that to price of hotel room for example and there's many that won't find that much of a deterrent Ha ha very true, they clearly didn't consider swingers who pay that anyway for a space to have a little romp about lol Although if you do it in your garden, it's perfectly within the rules, only broken rule is not observing social distancing. Too many loopholes, and too many people have had enough of lock down for various reasons Doing it in your garden is still 'potentially' illegal. It's a public decency offence. A public Indecency offence also comes with its own loopholes... One being that someone needs to have seen it and been offended by it.... So dont offend your neighbors, invite them round to watch lol Ha ha. Depends if you fancy your neighbours doesn't it.
They don't need to have seen it by the way. Only that someone could see it. Obviously it would require someone to see it to report it though ha ha
We'll tbh my elderly neighbors may have a heart attack from the excitement lol.... They are both lovely though "Sweet of you to consider their wellbeing before romping in the garden. Hopefully they don't catch you and they're not hospitalised as a result of the 'over excitement' | |||
"Even if you are caught and fined it's only £50 if you pay it in first 2 weeks. Compare that to price of hotel room for example and there's many that won't find that much of a deterrent Ha ha very true, they clearly didn't consider swingers who pay that anyway for a space to have a little romp about lol Although if you do it in your garden, it's perfectly within the rules, only broken rule is not observing social distancing. Too many loopholes, and too many people have had enough of lock down for various reasons Doing it in your garden is still 'potentially' illegal. It's a public decency offence. A public Indecency offence also comes with its own loopholes... One being that someone needs to have seen it and been offended by it.... So dont offend your neighbors, invite them round to watch lol Ha ha. Depends if you fancy your neighbours doesn't it.
They don't need to have seen it by the way. Only that someone could see it. Obviously it would require someone to see it to report it though ha ha
We'll tbh my elderly neighbors may have a heart attack from the excitement lol.... They are both lovely though
Sweet of you to consider their wellbeing before romping in the garden. Hopefully they don't catch you and they're not hospitalised as a result of the 'over excitement' "Of course I do, Im a good neighbour | |||
"What the fuck, I use looking forward to having some naughty 3somes. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sex-your-house-person-another-22117105" Has been from day one | |||
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"This alleged ban can only be temporary as hotels already saying they are reopening from 4th July - various hotel chains already emailed me saying re-opening in accordance with Govt guidelines. So if hotels open sometime in July how does the state stop 2 adults meeting up even if pretending to be Mr & Mrs X" Precisely why it makes no sense at all lol. | |||
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"Well they've clear not dont anything about it on the estate we live on Having parties and people just walking in to other peoples houses " And they would still expect to be looked after by the NHS if they caught the virus badly enough! The social distance was put in place for a reason | |||
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"The police haven't been given the power to enter your home in order to enforce that or any other lockdown 'rule', so they wouldn't be able to do anything about it even if they wanted to From the Mirror article that the original poster linked to: ''No10 added officers have no powers to enter someone's home for breaking the lockdown rules - unless they suspect "serious" crime''" Best make sure no one screams too loudly then | |||
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"Well they've clear not dont anything about it on the estate we live on Having parties and people just walking in to other peoples houses And they would still expect to be looked after by the NHS if they caught the virus badly enough! The social distance was put in place for a reason " It was, and the reason is still valid, but I could sit with my son at his house or mine and have a beer with him 2 metres from him better than I can stay 2 metres away from customers at work and him at his place of work the same. why is meeting family a greater risk that being in a supermarket with loads of random people. I agree house parties would be silly, but visiting family and close friends being dangerous - really ! take away the 'sex is illegal' line and what they are saying is you cant visit friends its dangerous … yeh right, I am sure all those nice MP's are happily visiting ! | |||
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"What a load of twaddle, they can’t even police/enforce what happens outdoors let alone indoors " That’s true | |||
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"It's not going to stop anyone, they're going to do it anyway especially those you should see in the north east they're banging left right and center yet complaining not to meet yet they're doing it themselves who knows right?"Err i live in the north east and i can assure theres no banging going on in my household. Not for 3 months or more so speak for yourself | |||
"Yet kids are allowed to go from one parents house to the othersexactly and the schools are reopening my kids don't go from house to house so their dad visits them here. Its not the first time I've broke the law and it won't be the last. Lol "Just a troublemaker you. Miss DM100 hahahs | |||
"nelson Mandela was caged for over 20 years he survived and become the leader of the country that imprisoned him........... what does that say
Google RSA and see what has happened to a once civilised country and its people under the "civilising" influence of Mandella and his cronies. "South Africa was 'civilised' pre Mandela? | |||
"Well I'd take a chance on a fit copper coming to handcuff me for breaking the rules. I'd take his punishment if it suited me " | |||
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"nelson Mandela was caged for over 20 years he survived and become the leader of the country that imprisoned him........... what does that say
Google RSA and see what has happened to a once civilised country and its people under the "civilising" influence of Mandella and his cronies. "Say WHAT!!!!! | |||
"nelson Mandela was caged for over 20 years he survived and become the leader of the country that imprisoned him........... what does that say
Google RSA and see what has happened to a once civilised country and its people under the "civilising" influence of Mandella and his cronies.
South Africa was 'civilised' pre Mandela?"WTF r u talking about?  | |||
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"How can they enforce that lol " through your phone they have the technology they can track you to a home you don't live at and with satellite watch you enter front door, you have by virtue of the fact you don't live there committed the crime but they then use heat imagery technology to follow you in the home as soon as two bodies merge into one they know one person is on top of the other copulating, the swat team move in with the fines book, on the spot £100 fine if you can't pay they take you away | |||
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"How can they enforce that lol through your phone they have the technology they can track you to a home you don't live at and with satellite watch you enter front door, you have by virtue of the fact you don't live there committed the crime but they then use heat imagery technology to follow you in the home as soon as two bodies merge into one they know one person is on top of the other copulating, the swat team move in with the fines book, on the spot £100 fine if you can't pay they take you away "Song from the 1966 which you are too young to remember: They're coming to take me away Ha Ha They're coming to take me away Ho Ho Hee Hee Ha Haaa To the funny farm Where life is beautiful all the time... | |||
"Sorry officer, I was merely checking if my eyes still worked...yes, it's a cock
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"Oh according to some people they can tell you what to do in your own home. Well a police officer did try that with me, stopped him at my front gate and said your jurisdiction stops there. He mentioned something about obtaining a court warrant if he had to. I told him to make sure he brought the insurance certificate that secures the warrant because if he doesn't, then he is personally liable for the trespass on my property. He looked confused so I put it to him in plain English, if I take my car a private vehicle onto a public road, it has to be insured, some thing applies if a public servant wishes to come onto my private property, he must be insured. With that he left, this is how I know this works. Governments work for us we employ them, they don't do as they are told then it's P45 time. Your home is your castle you do what you want in your private home There's so much bull in that fairytale we're no going to even start.. maybe open up with once upon a time for the next one. And were not surprised the copper looked confused.. it wasn't with your clearly superior grasp of the law though "Hey I'm not stopping you allowing your Government to tell you what to do in your own home, if you feel comfortable thinking the Government is there to look after you and protect you then that's good with me. As for my knowledge on the law, well I've had so many comments like yours in the past by others, only to prove those others they were wrong. | |||
"How can they enforce that lol " Lol i guess the nosey neighbours will finally have something to do | |||
"The point i think is being missed. Infection pure and simple. Do people go out to get aids or any std. Imagine, you cant keep away till it is safe? You meet someone for a quick shag etc. then a week or so later you feel unwell, see where i am going here. You het worse, you end up with Covid. You die and the nurse whom has selflessly been at you bed side speaks to, your mum or dad, nan or granddad or sun or daughter. They ask how did they contract Covid 19? You are told he/she where swingers. Bang. " I'm sorry but it's not just swingers being affected. And many people are now suffering with the lack of physical human contact... not just the sex | |||
"nelson Mandela was caged for over 20 years he survived and become the leader of the country that imprisoned him........... what does that say
Google RSA and see what has happened to a once civilised country and its people under the "civilising" influence of Mandella and his cronies. "Let me guess, you and your family must have benefited from Apartheid. Your sound like a sour Boer | |||
"The point i think is being missed. Infection pure and simple. Do people go out to get aids or any std. Imagine, you cant keep away till it is safe? You meet someone for a quick shag etc. then a week or so later you feel unwell, see where i am going here. You het worse, you end up with Covid. You die and the nurse whom has selflessly been at you bed side speaks to, your mum or dad, nan or granddad or sun or daughter. They ask how did they contract Covid 19? You are told he/she where swingers. Bang. I'm sorry but it's not just swingers being affected. And many people are now suffering with the lack of physical human contact... not just the sex" Possibly, not sure why the glib headlines are being bandied around so readily and unchallenged. Certainly every TV advert is telling me I must be suffering with mental health issues now I've been in my house for 10 weeks. We are intelligent adults right? We know what the disease can do to some people and we know how to stay safe from it. Make your own minds up. | |||
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"As I said over in the other thread on this subject, the new legislation could present a problem for Fab - and all similar sites - as until such time as it is repealed, facilitating meets would be encouraging/condoning an illegal activity..." surely it is only till lockdown is removed x | |||
"surely it is only till lockdown is removed x " Yes, whenever that might be - but after 10 weeks they've felt it necessary to clarify specifics, so those restrictions are obviously not being eased anytime soon... ....staus updates and cryptic messages indicate that some people here are still actively seeking meets - the issue may arise if someone's caught and evidence obtained showing arrangements were made through Fab (or the like)... | |||
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"nelson Mandela was caged for over 20 years he survived and become the leader of the country that imprisoned him........... what does that say
Google RSA and see what has happened to a once civilised country and its people under the "civilising" influence of Mandella and his cronies.
Let me guess, you and your family must have benefited from Apartheid. Your sound like a sour Boer "boer never boo'd in my life I'm a cheerer | |||
"surely it is only till lockdown is removed x Yes, whenever that might be - but after 10 weeks they've felt it necessary to clarify specifics, so those restrictions are obviously not being eased anytime soon... ....staus updates and cryptic messages indicate that some people here are still actively seeking meets - the issue may arise if someone's caught and evidence obtained showing arrangements were made through Fab (or the like)..." I think it's about youngsters meeting, let's face it 10 weeks and no meets for a teenager is a lifetime. It's also not fair for randy people to be bottled up? | |||
"Oh according to some people they can tell you what to do in your own home. Well a police officer did try that with me, stopped him at my front gate and said your jurisdiction stops there. He mentioned something about obtaining a court warrant if he had to. I told him to make sure he brought the insurance certificate that secures the warrant because if he doesn't, then he is personally liable for the trespass on my property. He looked confused so I put it to him in plain English, if I take my car a private vehicle onto a public road, it has to be insured, some thing applies if a public servant wishes to come onto my private property, he must be insured. With that he left, this is how I know this works. Governments work for us we employ them, they don't do as they are told then it's P45 time. Your home is your castle you do what you want in your private home There's so much bull in that fairytale we're no going to even start.. maybe open up with once upon a time for the next one. And were not surprised the copper looked confused.. it wasn't with your clearly superior grasp of the law though
Hey I'm not stopping you allowing your Government to tell you what to do in your own home, if you feel comfortable thinking the Government is there to look after you and protect you then that's good with me.
As for my knowledge on the law, well I've had so many comments like yours in the past by others, only to prove those others they were wrong.
"Ok... prove us wrong? Firstly explain why the police need insurance to step on your property... and where is this documented? Trespass is also a civil offence.. so good luck with that one... and if a person entering the boundary of another persons property was case for possible liable action should something go wrong.. well royal mail and parcel force would be leaving your parcels on the street. Various laws from section 32 / 17 / and common law grant them entry without a warrant on certain conditions. Then there's section 8 warrants, again obtained at a court with a power of entry.. and nope.. no insurance certificate or swimming badge needed for those. Driving insurance has jack all to do with a power of entry and is a terrible comparison .. your logic then dictates if you want to go into ASDA and buy some shopping you have to be insured in case you damage a shelf.. Also like all organisations they have standing public liability insurance. But thankfully we've never had the police come to our door (that's a lie, they did warn us about recent thefts in the area and offered advice) and we've never had to explain this to them.. oddly the police don't have any reason to come to our door and I don't have to pretend I know what i'm talking about.. And also.. it ain't my government. I simply subscribe to knowledge is power and like to know what people can and can't do should the situation ever arise. Try searching google.. that'll give you a helping hand and probably stop you building a moat for your castle, unless you want a moat.. but beware you need planning permission for em.. pesky government. | |||
"nelson Mandela was caged for over 20 years he survived and become the leader of the country that imprisoned him........... what does that say
Google RSA and see what has happened to a once civilised country and its people under the "civilising" influence of Mandella and his cronies.
As a south African who lived through the 1994 elections, Mandela didn't run the country long enough for his vision to be realised, he was too old to run a country by the time he was released.... So no the uncivilised unrest is nothing to do with him.... It went tits up with Jacob Zuma and his cronies over threw Mandela's choice replacement Thabo Mbeki.... Zuma won the popularity vote amongst people while Mbeki was out of the country trying to build investment relationships, and convinced people that Mbeki was an absent president because he wasnt out shaking hands with joe blog.... And that's my political history lesson for the day "Well said. Most people like to talk about what they've read. We lived it and experienced it first hand. AMANDLA ? | |||
"nelson Mandela was caged for over 20 years he survived and become the leader of the country that imprisoned him........... what does that say
Google RSA and see what has happened to a once civilised country and its people under the "civilising" influence of Mandella and his cronies.
Let me guess, you and your family must have benefited from Apartheid. Your sound like a sour Boer boer never boo'd in my life I'm a cheerer "My comment was directed to the person who responded to yours | |||
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"Oh according to some people they can tell you what to do in your own home. Well a police officer did try that with me, stopped him at my front gate and said your jurisdiction stops there. He mentioned something about obtaining a court warrant if he had to. I told him to make sure he brought the insurance certificate that secures the warrant because if he doesn't, then he is personally liable for the trespass on my property. He looked confused so I put it to him in plain English, if I take my car a private vehicle onto a public road, it has to be insured, some thing applies if a public servant wishes to come onto my private property, he must be insured. With that he left, this is how I know this works. Governments work for us we employ them, they don't do as they are told then it's P45 time. Your home is your castle you do what you want in your private home There's so much bull in that fairytale we're no going to even start.. maybe open up with once upon a time for the next one. And were not surprised the copper looked confused.. it wasn't with your clearly superior grasp of the law though
Hey I'm not stopping you allowing your Government to tell you what to do in your own home, if you feel comfortable thinking the Government is there to look after you and protect you then that's good with me.
As for my knowledge on the law, well I've had so many comments like yours in the past by others, only to prove those others they were wrong.
Ok...
prove us wrong?
Firstly explain why the police need insurance to step on your property... and where is this documented?
Trespass is also a civil offence.. so good luck with that one... and if a person entering the boundary of another persons property was case for possible liable action should something go wrong.. well royal mail and parcel force would be leaving your parcels on the street.
Various laws from section 32 / 17 / and common law grant them entry without a warrant on certain conditions.
Then there's section 8 warrants, again obtained at a court with a power of entry.. and nope.. no insurance certificate or swimming badge needed for those.
Driving insurance has jack all to do with a power of entry and is a terrible comparison .. your logic then dictates if you want to go into ASDA and buy some shopping you have to be insured in case you damage a shelf..
Also like all organisations they have standing public liability insurance.
But thankfully we've never had the police come to our door (that's a lie, they did warn us about recent thefts in the area and offered advice) and we've never had to explain this to them.. oddly the police don't have any reason to come to our door and I don't have to pretend I know what i'm talking about..
And also.. it ain't my government. I simply subscribe to knowledge is power and like to know what people can and can't do should the situation ever arise.
Try searching google.. that'll give you a helping hand and probably stop you building a moat for your castle, unless you want a moat.. but beware you need planning permission for em.. pesky government.
"Ok if they step foot on your property and they cause damage or harm to your property, if the warrant isnt insured then the police officer is personally liable. Parcel Force and Royal mail arent coming to your property telling you what to do on your own property are they? Asda will have public liability insurance in case you damage a shelf. Now back to t warrant, if as you say their public insurance covers them to come onto Private Property and inflict damage or perform an assualt or battery on you to say for example to drag you into court because you havent paid a fine? then they should present a copy of that insurance document, ever wondered why they dont produce the insurance document, because it doesnt cover them to come onto PRIVATE property, thats why, and because 95% of the people dont challenge it then they will continue to try to get away with it whilst the 95% of people think they have that right to do so. If it isnt your Government, why are you rolling over and dancing to their tune??? | |||
"Oh according to some people they can tell you what to do in your own home. Well a police officer did try that with me, stopped him at my front gate and said your jurisdiction stops there. He mentioned something about obtaining a court warrant if he had to. I told him to make sure he brought the insurance certificate that secures the warrant because if he doesn't, then he is personally liable for the trespass on my property. He looked confused so I put it to him in plain English, if I take my car a private vehicle onto a public road, it has to be insured, some thing applies if a public servant wishes to come onto my private property, he must be insured. With that he left, this is how I know this works. Governments work for us we employ them, they don't do as they are told then it's P45 time. Your home is your castle you do what you want in your private home There's so much bull in that fairytale we're no going to even start.. maybe open up with once upon a time for the next one. And were not surprised the copper looked confused.. it wasn't with your clearly superior grasp of the law though
Hey I'm not stopping you allowing your Government to tell you what to do in your own home, if you feel comfortable thinking the Government is there to look after you and protect you then that's good with me.
As for my knowledge on the law, well I've had so many comments like yours in the past by others, only to prove those others they were wrong.
Ok...
prove us wrong?
Firstly explain why the police need insurance to step on your property... and where is this documented?
Trespass is also a civil offence.. so good luck with that one... and if a person entering the boundary of another persons property was case for possible liable action should something go wrong.. well royal mail and parcel force would be leaving your parcels on the street.
Various laws from section 32 / 17 / and common law grant them entry without a warrant on certain conditions.
Then there's section 8 warrants, again obtained at a court with a power of entry.. and nope.. no insurance certificate or swimming badge needed for those.
Driving insurance has jack all to do with a power of entry and is a terrible comparison .. your logic then dictates if you want to go into ASDA and buy some shopping you have to be insured in case you damage a shelf..
Also like all organisations they have standing public liability insurance.
But thankfully we've never had the police come to our door (that's a lie, they did warn us about recent thefts in the area and offered advice) and we've never had to explain this to them.. oddly the police don't have any reason to come to our door and I don't have to pretend I know what i'm talking about..
And also.. it ain't my government. I simply subscribe to knowledge is power and like to know what people can and can't do should the situation ever arise.
Try searching google.. that'll give you a helping hand and probably stop you building a moat for your castle, unless you want a moat.. but beware you need planning permission for em.. pesky government.
Ok if they step foot on your property and they cause damage or harm to your property, if the warrant isnt insured then the police officer is personally liable.
Parcel Force and Royal mail arent coming to your property telling you what to do on your own property are they? Asda will have public liability insurance in case you damage a shelf.
Now back to t warrant, if as you say their public insurance covers them to come onto Private Property and inflict damage or perform an assualt or battery on you to say for example to drag you into court because you havent paid a fine? then they should present a copy of that insurance document, ever wondered why they dont produce the insurance document, because it doesnt cover them to come onto PRIVATE property, thats why, and because 95% of the people dont challenge it then they will continue to try to get away with it whilst the 95% of people think they have that right to do so.
If it isnt your Government, why are you rolling over and dancing to their tune???
"So your response to fact is to give your opinion. It's a fact they don't need to produce a certificate. It's a fact that should they damage something inside your house the public liability insurance they have covers that. You deflect the arguement you posted about people stepping onto your property by changing the context of your arguement. Firstly you say stepping onto your property, now you say to assault you and damage your property. I doubt royal mail wants to punch you.. well.. Oh and do you honestly think some of the most organised crime gangs in the uk don't research the law.. and when the police turn up at the door with a warrant just happen to have missed this amazing insurance certificate defence you have stumbled on... nooooo... why.. because that's not a thing. Plus if you have insurance you don't need to carry a copy of the certificate with you everywhere you go.. if you're insured.. well you're insured.. Also the police don't enforce fines.. the court passes them on to the court bailiffs.. so that's nonsense. So far none of what you have said makes any sense. But hey if you want to believe you took a stand, puffed your chest out and scared the nasty police man away.. well power to you. We're yet to find ourselves corrected by your lack of facts and poor examples. And as for dancing to the government's tune, as stated before power is knowledge.. we would rather be armed with the facts than giving the cops a good laugh as we scream get out of my castle and where is the direct line insurance form. We simply can't stand people posting complete rubbish and others taking it for fact, so we prefer to challenge and correct so others don't get taken in by utter rubbish and fantasy. | |||
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"Oh according to some people they can tell you what to do in your own home. Well a police officer did try that with me, stopped him at my front gate and said your jurisdiction stops there. He mentioned something about obtaining a court warrant if he had to. I told him to make sure he brought the insurance certificate that secures the warrant because if he doesn't, then he is personally liable for the trespass on my property. He looked confused so I put it to him in plain English, if I take my car a private vehicle onto a public road, it has to be insured, some thing applies if a public servant wishes to come onto my private property, he must be insured. With that he left, this is how I know this works. Governments work for us we employ them, they don't do as they are told then it's P45 time. Your home is your castle you do what you want in your private home" Not really sure where to start with that one to be honest.. I guess I'll just say no lol | |||
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"So that means I can't see my girlfriend or my wife anymore because I don't live in the same household with neither of them ?? what should I do now? Any ideas?" You can see them but you can't be in the same house unless one of you is using the toilet or walking through to the garden. | |||
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"So that means I can't see my girlfriend or my wife anymore because I don't live in the same household with neither of them ?? what should I do now? Any ideas? You can see them but you can't be in the same house unless one of you is using the toilet or walking through to the garden. " As said above, you can see them but follow the Government rules. | |||
"the fine is £1000 it was sad on this morning and the law also meeting out side for sex " That's more rubbish then There is no possible enforcement of social distancing outside, although if your caught by the police having sex outside that might be the least of your worries For a group labelling themselves swingers many of whom have been risking sex outdoors for years you're overthinking this Of course we won't be for a while but it sure as fk isn't because of a farticle in the daily fail or whatever | |||
"the fine is £1000 it was sad on this morning and the law also meeting out side for sex " its always sad...... this morning | |||
"You can send your kids to school and go to the beach ,can even have barbecues with your friends in garden ,say they get d*unk do they have to drive home or get taxi or just pass out on sofa lol the government has no idea whats it doing " we do though eh | |||
"The actual guidance says in england you can walk through a person's house to access their garden and you can use their toilet. So my excuse is I'm having a major shit." can I cum and use your loo | |||
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