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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Speaking to my doctor yesterday (I’m in hospital) and she thinks the 2nd wave will be in October and three times or more bigger than the first wave.
Then she said but I’m no expert.!!!!!!
But it’s coming and I’m glad that we live in the middle of no where and not in a city.
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over a year ago
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Well if it does come then it does...not a lot we can do about it..doubt the world will sit in lockdown for ever...so need to be realistic and get on with life...enjoy the summer we might die in the autumn...we definitely won't get out of life alive thats for sure... |
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"And it will be big
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021 "
Have you got any links to these claims, because none of the experts I've seen making comments have suggested anything like this.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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At the end of the day we can’t stop it from re appearing we can just try to limit the rate of infection and slow it down from statistics if they are correct there are a fair few who could already be immune for the time being for how long we won’t know but that could make this so called second wave of it dose happen quite mild we will just never know until that time
I say just stop with the if buts and maybes and we will just have to cross that bridge when we get to it as there’s no point panicking now and wasting time just live life to the full enjoy the time you have and treat everyday like it’s your last and make sure everyone that matters in your life knows you love them
Then if the worst dose happen you know you’ve done all you can |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There will be a second wave everyone agrees that. But it will be significantly different. Because when it hits as a society social distancing will be the norm, hospitals and doctors will know what to expect, businesses will know what to expect. It will be handled very differently and none of us on here know anywhere near enough time say what impact those differences will have |
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By *estivalMan
over a year ago
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"All I know about things at the moment is this lockdown did bring some amazing weather didn’t it what all your thoughts on that instead  "
ive got a great tan and exploring on the bike thanks to the sun god ra |
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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago
Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria |
They are still preparing for another wave as the NHS are still taking delivery of hundreds of extra beds, suppose they have to because if they don’t half of the country will be saying why weren’t they prepared after last time, so beds and PPE will be stacked high.
Certainly hope it doesn’t come back with a vengeance in autumn/winter, imagine everyone queuing outside the shops in the cold and pouring rain, I think that will add to extra illness alone  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I know the sun has been amazing I’ve seen so many out on there bikes and been able to listen to the wildlife more
Everything seems to have come alive out there it’s lovely really  |
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
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"Well if it does come then it does...not a lot we can do about it..doubt the world will sit in lockdown for ever...so need to be realistic and get on with life...enjoy the summer we might die in the autumn...we definitely won't get out of life alive thats for sure..."
Agree totally.
Lots of things out there waiting to end our time on this rock. We put control measures and treatments in place to deal with them and get on with life. Covid will be another on the list of things we live with soon.
Only Sir Cliff is immortal.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There’d better be zombies in the second wave ... this apocalypse has been crap so far ! "
Try telling that to a friend of my mum's....husband and son both dead, having to isolate on her own . At least your ok though fella with your 'crap apocalypse'.... |
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"There’d better be zombies in the second wave ... this apocalypse has been crap so far !
Try telling that to a friend of my mum's....husband and son both dead, having to isolate on her own . At least your ok though fella with your 'crap apocalypse'...."
I think it will be humour x |
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"And it will be big
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021 "
And it will be big - who says? reveal your sources.
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021 - who are the 'some'.
talk about a drama queen post
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Mystic meg fauci says second wave in Autumn and he'll be right just like he "predicted" this pandemic.
Gates says vaccine could be ready for January, being the fastest designed vaccine ever, just in time for this second wave |
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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago
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"All I can add is that my daughter is a nurse in Devon . They are still in the process of building a nightingale hospital because they are expecting the second wave to hit autumn this year . "
Is this why they were built in such a rush and at a massive expense, I know guys who have worked on some of these projects and money was no object just get them done, the majority are yet to be used which is a good thing but this was on advice from experts! |
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"All I can add is that my daughter is a nurse in Devon . They are still in the process of building a nightingale hospital because they are expecting the second wave to hit autumn this year . "
they also expected that these nightingale hospitals would be full of covid patients this wave and they wasn't infact the London one has been stepped down and is empty of patients
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If you make claims, especially as many may find them alarming op, it's better to post the references to them. If it's just personal speculation, it's perhaps wiser to see if other topics are doing the same.
Like many, I'm being selective with news stories and information, preferring to source projections and medical data from reputable sources.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I do think it will be sooner than that for Covid and then the flu after that wave looking at the amount of people who are just partying away and then going home to families |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Speaking to my doctor yesterday (I’m in hospital) and she thinks the 2nd wave will be in October and three times or more bigger than the first wave.
Then she said but I’m no expert.!!!!!!
But it’s coming and I’m glad that we live in the middle of no where and not in a city.
T"
So 2nd wave is coming just cause the scientist and government tell us it is. I wonder if there crystal ball can tell me the lottery numbers |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well if it does come then it does...not a lot we can do about it..doubt the world will sit in lockdown for ever...so need to be realistic and get on with life...enjoy the summer we might die in the autumn...we definitely won't get out of life alive thats for sure..."
Well said, we take risks every day and our immune system is fighting things from us all the time without us realizing it.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And it will be big
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021
Have you got any links to these claims, because none of the experts I've seen making comments have suggested anything like this.
Cal"
I've got this link to official government website that's says it was downgraded as not a high-consequence-infectious-diseases-from 19th March if that helps
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There will be a second wave everyone agrees that. But it will be significantly different. Because when it hits as a society social distancing will be the norm, hospitals and doctors will know what to expect, businesses will know what to expect. It will be handled very differently and none of us on here know anywhere near enough time say what impact those differences will have"
Second wave of a not a highly infectious virus
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"exactly... if the chief medical officer doesn't say it then no point listening to crap off facebook"
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There’d better be zombies in the second wave ... this apocalypse has been crap so far ! "
It is https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well if it does come then it does...not a lot we can do about it..doubt the world will sit in lockdown for ever...so need to be realistic and get on with life...enjoy the summer we might die in the autumn...we definitely won't get out of life alive thats for sure...
Agree totally.
Lots of things out there waiting to end our time on this rock. We put control measures and treatments in place to deal with them and get on with life. Covid will be another on the list of things we live with soon.
Only Sir Cliff is immortal. "
Covid19 is part of the Coronavirus family of which the common cold is a part of, do your own research people don't just trust what the government tell you |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Mystic meg fauci says second wave in Autumn and he'll be right just like he "predicted" this pandemic.
Gates says vaccine could be ready for January, being the fastest designed vaccine ever, just in time for this second wave"
And Gates also said the side effects from the rushed vaccine won't be know for at least 2 years, good luck if you have it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All I can add is that my daughter is a nurse in Devon . They are still in the process of building a nightingale hospital because they are expecting the second wave to hit autumn this year .
Is this why they were built in such a rush and at a massive expense, I know guys who have worked on some of these projects and money was no object just get them done, the majority are yet to be used which is a good thing but this was on advice from experts! "
Do you own research and find out what they put in vaccines |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All I can add is that my daughter is a nurse in Devon . They are still in the process of building a nightingale hospital because they are expecting the second wave to hit autumn this year . they also expected that these nightingale hospitals would be full of covid patients this wave and they wasn't infact the London one has been stepped down and is empty of patients"
Yeah funny that ain't it, deaths from other causes have been falsified to get the numbers up and double counted from taking a swab from the nose and throat |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Mystic meg fauci says second wave in Autumn and he'll be right just like he "predicted" this pandemic.
Gates says vaccine could be ready for January, being the fastest designed vaccine ever, just in time for this second wave
And Gates also said the side effects from the rushed vaccine won't be know for at least 2 years, good luck if you have it"
If I have it? You must be joking, I wouldn't touch anything from depopulater gates.
He's very proud that it will be the world's quickest ever vaccine, even though it takes at least 5 years to produce and properly test a safe vaccine. |
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There is a possibility this will be seasonal forever, we cant spend the rest of our lives social distancing. There may never be a complete vaccination. We are going to get back to life normality asap, we refuse to let it control us and yes more will die ut that's an unfortunate part of life. It could be us or someone close to us but we wont allow our life to be conditioned by the virus, government or the righteous. You may not agree and I'm not asking you too, just let us do us and you do you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They are still preparing for another wave as the NHS are still taking delivery of hundreds of extra beds, suppose they have to because if they don’t half of the country will be saying why weren’t they prepared after last time, so beds and PPE will be stacked high.
Certainly hope it doesn’t come back with a vengeance in autumn/winter, imagine everyone queuing outside the shops in the cold and pouring rain, I think that will add to extra illness alone "
If there is any sign of a second wave coming that time of year the brollies will be the new big roll... 
Expect local corner shop owners to snap up all the stock from Wilkos amd knock them out for a tenner a go from a temporary shelter outside the local supermarket... 
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"There’d better be zombies in the second wave ... this apocalypse has been crap so far !
Try telling that to a friend of my mum's....husband and son both dead, having to isolate on her own . At least your ok though fella with your 'crap apocalypse'...."
If there’s zombies they might get a chance to see them again ! |
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"And it will be big
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021
Have you got any links to these claims, because none of the experts I've seen making comments have suggested anything like this.
Cal
I've got this link to official government website that's says it was downgraded as not a high-consequence-infectious-diseases-from 19th March if that helps
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid"
And this was known on these forums in March. Nothing was hidden by the government. Just because you are two and a half months behind doesn't make it a conspiracy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There is a possibility this will be seasonal forever, we cant spend the rest of our lives social distancing. There may never be a complete vaccination. We are going to get back to life normality asap, we refuse to let it control us and yes more will die ut that's an unfortunate part of life. It could be us or someone close to us but we wont allow our life to be conditioned by the virus, government or the righteous. You may not agree and I'm not asking you too, just let us do us and you do you."
You've the nail right on the head but people keeping glued to the news, the elderly have a new flu vaccine every year because the new strains come out every year so we will be in permanent lockdown and constantly tracked and traced why are they employing track and tracers, people seriously need to wake up what this means for there freedom as a civilian |
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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago
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"They are still preparing for another wave as the NHS are still taking delivery of hundreds of extra beds, suppose they have to because if they don’t half of the country will be saying why weren’t they prepared after last time, so beds and PPE will be stacked high.
Certainly hope it doesn’t come back with a vengeance in autumn/winter, imagine everyone queuing outside the shops in the cold and pouring rain, I think that will add to extra illness alone
If there is any sign of a second wave coming that time of year the brollies will be the new big roll...
Expect local corner shop owners to snap up all the stock from Wilkos amd knock them out for a tenner a go from a temporary shelter outside the local supermarket...
B"
Very true, blooming profiteering, so much for the government saying its not allowed, I will have to get my ski wear out of the attic and check my brolly situation just in case as probably won’t get a supermarket delivery...thinking about it might see if I can book a Christmas slot now (joking) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And it will be big
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021
Have you got any links to these claims, because none of the experts I've seen making comments have suggested anything like this.
Cal
I've got this link to official government website that's says it was downgraded as not a high-consequence-infectious-diseases-from 19th March if that helps
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid
And this was known on these forums in March. Nothing was hidden by the government. Just because you are two and a half months behind doesn't make it a conspiracy"
Who are the ones being locked down, threatened with mandatory vaccine and tracking apps, queuing outside a supermarket for over 30 mins or more your living in the conspiracy and you can't see it |
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"And it will be big
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021
Have you got any links to these claims, because none of the experts I've seen making comments have suggested anything like this.
Cal
I've got this link to official government website that's says it was downgraded as not a high-consequence-infectious-diseases-from 19th March if that helps
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid
And this was known on these forums in March. Nothing was hidden by the government. Just because you are two and a half months behind doesn't make it a conspiracy
Who are the ones being locked down, threatened with mandatory vaccine and tracking apps, queuing outside a supermarket for over 30 mins or more your living in the conspiracy and you can't see it"
well you can so good for you. You can come back here everyday and say "I told you so". I await your message in early 2021 |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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Looking at the knobheads that were congregated around the two air ambulances at Durdle Door in Dorset to look at three other stupid prats who decided to "tombstone" of Durdle Door and got badly injured it will be sooner than that!
Durdle Door, Lulworth and the rest of that area is now closed for everyone apart from residents. |
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"Looking at the knobheads that were congregated around the two air ambulances at Durdle Door in Dorset to look at three other stupid prats who decided to "tombstone" of Durdle Door and got badly injured it will be sooner than that!
Durdle Door, Lulworth and the rest of that area is now closed for everyone apart from residents."
How many times can you get Durdle Door in a post... |
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"Looking at the knobheads that were congregated around the two air ambulances at Durdle Door in Dorset to look at three other stupid prats who decided to "tombstone" of Durdle Door and got badly injured it will be sooner than that!
Durdle Door, Lulworth and the rest of that area is now closed for everyone apart from residents.How many times can you get Durdle Door in a post..."
I counted 3  |
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"Looking at the knobheads that were congregated around the two air ambulances at Durdle Door in Dorset to look at three other stupid prats who decided to "tombstone" of Durdle Door and got badly injured it will be sooner than that!
Durdle Door, Lulworth and the rest of that area is now closed for everyone apart from residents.How many times can you get Durdle Door in a post...
I counted 3 "
Actually 4 on your re-post |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Looking at the knobheads that were congregated around the two air ambulances at Durdle Door in Dorset to look at three other stupid prats who decided to "tombstone" of Durdle Door and got badly injured it will be sooner than that!
Durdle Door, Lulworth and the rest of that area is now closed for everyone apart from residents.How many times can you get Durdle Door in a post...
I counted 3
Actually 4 on your re-post "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Looking at the knobheads that were congregated around the two air ambulances at Durdle Door in Dorset to look at three other stupid prats who decided to "tombstone" of Durdle Door and got badly injured it will be sooner than that!
Durdle Door, Lulworth and the rest of that area is now closed for everyone apart from residents.How many times can you get Durdle Door in a post...
I counted 3
Actually 4 on your re-post "
Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Oh and Durdle Door. I win. |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack! |
"Looking at the knobheads that were congregated around the two air ambulances at Durdle Door in Dorset to look at three other stupid prats who decided to "tombstone" of Durdle Door and got badly injured it will be sooner than that!
Durdle Door, Lulworth and the rest of that area is now closed for everyone apart from residents.How many times can you get Durdle Door in a post...
I counted 3
Actually 4 on your re-post "
Sorry guys and gals! Alkeyhole working hard! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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IF....the 2nd wave hits in the autumn....it will be dark nights and colder weather.....people won’t be able to escape it by sunbathing and going outdoors all day ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Looking at the knobheads that were congregated around the two air ambulances at Durdle Door in Dorset to look at three other stupid prats who decided to "tombstone" of Durdle Door and got badly injured it will be sooner than that!
Durdle Door, Lulworth and the rest of that area is now closed for everyone apart from residents.How many times can you get Durdle Door in a post...
I counted 3
Actually 4 on your re-post "
Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Oh and Durdle Door. I win. |
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"Looking at the knobheads that were congregated around the two air ambulances at Durdle Door in Dorset to look at three other stupid prats who decided to "tombstone" of Durdle Door and got badly injured it will be sooner than that!
Durdle Door, Lulworth and the rest of that area is now closed for everyone apart from residents.How many times can you get Durdle Door in a post...
I counted 3
Actually 4 on your re-post Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Oh and Durdle Door. I win."
Wtf is a doodle door |
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By *etsomeMan
over a year ago
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if we don't get the second wave of this we could get the first waave of some other chyna bat plague
we can't live our lives in the expection of waves and waves of bat viruses - or what is the point |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"IF....the 2nd wave hits in the autumn....it will be dark nights and colder weather.....people won’t be able to escape it by sunbathing and going outdoors all day ..."
Expect those corner shop owners to snap up all the shit "made only for small garden" fireworks and flog them off "2 sets for a tonne" as well...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The UK public dont listen or respect the rules. What a world we live in. Big virus killing 10,000s and they don't give too hoots. So what do we expect will happen? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The UK public dont listen or respect the rules. What a world we live in. Big virus killing 10,000s and they don't give too hoots. So what do we expect will happen?
Darwinism. "
It's absolutely stupid. |
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By *aulj69Man
over a year ago
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Doctor and television presenter Alexander Myasnikov was appointed in April to his new role of informing Russians about coronavirus treatment and prevention methods and to battle “fake news” about Covid-19. After calling the country’s reported low death rate a “Russian miracle,” Myasnikov said last week that “those meant to die will die” from it.
In an interview that aired Wednesday, Myasnikov gestured for the cameras to stop running and said candidly: “It’s all bullsh*t.”
“It’s all exaggerated. It’s an acute respiratory disease with minimal mortality,” he told television personality Ksenia Sobchak in the interview for her YouTube project.
“Why has the whole world been destroyed? That I don’t know,” Myasnikov said, adding that he’s more concerned about a second wave that he claimed “we’re unprepared for.” |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Looking at the knobheads that were congregated around the two air ambulances at Durdle Door in Dorset to look at three other stupid prats who decided to "tombstone" of Durdle Door and got badly injured it will be sooner than that!
Durdle Door, Lulworth and the rest of that area is now closed for everyone apart from residents.How many times can you get Durdle Door in a post...
I counted 3
Actually 4 on your re-post Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Durdle Door. Oh and Durdle Door. I win.
Wtf is a doodle door"
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It's an outside loo door for scribbling on whilst one sees to his/her 'business'........
Apparently.
Hope this helps(!)
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"Doctor and television presenter Alexander Myasnikov was appointed in April to his new role of informing Russians about coronavirus treatment and prevention methods and to battle “fake news” about Covid-19. After calling the country’s reported low death rate a “Russian miracle,” Myasnikov said last week that “those meant to die will die” from it.
In an interview that aired Wednesday, Myasnikov gestured for the cameras to stop running and said candidly: “It’s all bullsh*t.”
“It’s all exaggerated. It’s an acute respiratory disease with minimal mortality,” he told television personality Ksenia Sobchak in the interview for her YouTube project.
“Why has the whole world been destroyed? That I don’t know,” Myasnikov said, adding that he’s more concerned about a second wave that he claimed “we’re unprepared for.”"
Russia just annoyed because they have lost a fortune in oil money. And it may have a low death rate but the rate of spread is high so kind of cancels itself out. |
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Nice little party in East London last night and a couple of demos with more planned for today. (Only one demo social distanced)
Then look at the beaches and beauty spots crammed.
Wouldn’t surprise me if another wave came sooner. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Be more scared if I was you !
When the Xmas shopping kick's off !
It's gonna take hour's of queuing with all the Santa caper's bullshit combined with Covid 19 it's going to be a nightmare ! |
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By * F 2018Couple
over a year ago
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Cant believe some people they dont care if we have a second wave not if they can pack the beaches .the parks and such like leaving their rubbish where they had their picnic..disposable bar b cue starting fires cause the ground is so dry ! Having people to their houses ..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And it will be big
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021 "
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"We could be in the 2nd wave now?
I think we would know if there was a second wave happening now."
How we could be in 3rd wave, no one is really sure when this started. |
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"We could be in the 2nd wave now?
I think we would know if there was a second wave happening now.How we could be in 3rd wave, no one is really sure when this started. "
True.
I guess I dont really know what "2nd wave" actually means. |
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"We could be in the 2nd wave now?
I think we would know if there was a second wave happening now.How we could be in 3rd wave, no one is really sure when this started.
True.
I guess I dont really know what "2nd wave" actually means. "
The second wave is when the daily deaths/hospital admissions/itu admissions all start to rapidly increase day on on day like they sod at the start of the first lockdown.
Those flippantly suggesting that we could be in a second or third wave while the figures are clearly decreasing are the ones who don't know what a second wave is |
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"We could be in the 2nd wave now?
I think we would know if there was a second wave happening now.How we could be in 3rd wave, no one is really sure when this started.
True.
I guess I dont really know what "2nd wave" actually means.
The second wave is when the daily deaths/hospital admissions/itu admissions all start to rapidly increase day on on day like they sod at the start of the first lockdown.
Those flippantly suggesting that we could be in a second or third wave while the figures are clearly decreasing are the ones who don't know what a second wave is "
Some experts are saying first wave was February and the 2nd wave hit us mid April. Only time will tell. |
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"We could be in the 2nd wave now?
I think we would know if there was a second wave happening now.How we could be in 3rd wave, no one is really sure when this started.
True.
I guess I dont really know what "2nd wave" actually means.
The second wave is when the daily deaths/hospital admissions/itu admissions all start to rapidly increase day on on day like they sod at the start of the first lockdown.
Those flippantly suggesting that we could be in a second or third wave while the figures are clearly decreasing are the ones who don't know what a second wave is Some experts are saying first wave was February and the 2nd wave hit us mid April. Only time will tell. "
Do you have a link for a source to that? I'm intrigued how we had a wave with nothing really happening? |
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"We could be in the 2nd wave now?
I think we would know if there was a second wave happening now.How we could be in 3rd wave, no one is really sure when this started.
True.
I guess I dont really know what "2nd wave" actually means.
The second wave is when the daily deaths/hospital admissions/itu admissions all start to rapidly increase day on on day like they sod at the start of the first lockdown.
Those flippantly suggesting that we could be in a second or third wave while the figures are clearly decreasing are the ones who don't know what a second wave is "
Okay
I wasnt arguing either way.
But sure. Thay definition of second wave makes sense.
Then, to me, it doesnt feel like we've had the second wave. |
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"We could be in the 2nd wave now?
I think we would know if there was a second wave happening now.How we could be in 3rd wave, no one is really sure when this started.
True.
I guess I dont really know what "2nd wave" actually means.
The second wave is when the daily deaths/hospital admissions/itu admissions all start to rapidly increase day on on day like they sod at the start of the first lockdown.
Those flippantly suggesting that we could be in a second or third wave while the figures are clearly decreasing are the ones who don't know what a second wave is
Okay
I wasnt arguing either way.
But sure. Thay definition of second wave makes sense.
Then, to me, it doesnt feel like we've had the second wave."
And we may not have a serious one, social distancing is the key. national geographic have just published a study on Spanish flu in america and lots of the cities didn't have large second waves as they stuck to social distancing, so it's possible but down to us to be responsible and keep distancing and washing hands properly |
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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago
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"We could be in the 2nd wave now?
I think we would know if there was a second wave happening now.How we could be in 3rd wave, no one is really sure when this started.
True.
I guess I dont really know what "2nd wave" actually means.
The second wave is when the daily deaths/hospital admissions/itu admissions all start to rapidly increase day on on day like they sod at the start of the first lockdown.
Those flippantly suggesting that we could be in a second or third wave while the figures are clearly decreasing are the ones who don't know what a second wave is Some experts are saying first wave was February and the 2nd wave hit us mid April. Only time will tell.
Do you have a link for a source to that? I'm intrigued how we had a wave with nothing really happening?"
Perhaps the tide was out when the second wave came. |
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By *69BANMan
over a year ago
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"I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a mutated version of this virus towards the end of this year which will cause a second bigger spike "
Upon what do you base that?
I ask because if a mutated version were to do that we would be dealing with a new virus not SARS-2 which we currently have. And that's not going to happen. Mutations happen frequently in RNA viruses, many coding for junk and if it does affect structures important for virulence a mutation can just as easily code for a decrease rather than am increase. |
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"Yes flue which kills doctors and nurses"
Yes influenza similar to cov19 can and does kill anyone including doctors and nurses
They need better ppe and practices regardless of the existence of another harmful pathogen
It's sad to took this one for people to begin to care x |
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"They are still preparing for another wave as the NHS are still taking delivery of hundreds of extra beds, suppose they have to because if they don’t half of the country will be saying why weren’t they prepared after last time, so beds and PPE will be stacked high.
Certainly hope it doesn’t come back with a vengeance in autumn/winter, imagine everyone queuing outside the shops in the cold and pouring rain, I think that will add to extra illness alone "
And where does this bold statement come from?
As someone working in a Manchester Covid treating hospital I can assure you we still have plenty of patients despite slight decreases. We are still woefully short of PPE which is supplied with varying quality and intermittently. We are ‘stockpiling’ zero items.
Beds??? Nobody is stock piling beds, there’s around 4000 unused in the various hibernated Nightingales along with 500 ventilators.
If you read any of the medical journals (the BMJ for example) the concern is we have exited lockdown too early. We may have the weather on our side currently but the great concern currently is spikes in infection especially in the cities. There’s too many cases in the population to effectively trace, most northern/midlands cities are sat on an R rating of 0.8 or 0.9, London itself is only a 0.7... there’s very little sign of a significant respite as lockdown eases.
The most concerning shortage in the NHS is for ICU qualified staff, that will give long before bed space does. That’s why the London, Birmingham Etc Nightingale hospitals saw no real use... we didn’t and still don’t have the staff to man them.
Yes Winter may peak again but there’s a strong argument to say we will still be dealing with significantly high infection numbers in the interim. |
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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago
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"They are still preparing for another wave as the NHS are still taking delivery of hundreds of extra beds, suppose they have to because if they don’t half of the country will be saying why weren’t they prepared after last time, so beds and PPE will be stacked high.
Certainly hope it doesn’t come back with a vengeance in autumn/winter, imagine everyone queuing outside the shops in the cold and pouring rain, I think that will add to extra illness alone
And where does this bold statement come from?
As someone working in a Manchester Covid treating hospital I can assure you we still have plenty of patients despite slight decreases. We are still woefully short of PPE which is supplied with varying quality and intermittently. We are ‘stockpiling’ zero items.
Beds??? Nobody is stock piling beds, there’s around 4000 unused in the various hibernated Nightingales along with 500 ventilators.
If you read any of the medical journals (the BMJ for example) the concern is we have exited lockdown too early. We may have the weather on our side currently but the great concern currently is spikes in infection especially in the cities. There’s too many cases in the population to effectively trace, most northern/midlands cities are sat on an R rating of 0.8 or 0.9, London itself is only a 0.7... there’s very little sign of a significant respite as lockdown eases.
The most concerning shortage in the NHS is for ICU qualified staff, that will give long before bed space does. That’s why the London, Birmingham Etc Nightingale hospitals saw no real use... we didn’t and still don’t have the staff to man them.
Yes Winter may peak again but there’s a strong argument to say we will still be dealing with significantly high infection numbers in the interim. "
I didn’t say there wasn’t patients now did I, please read what I said. I said preparing for another wave, the government themselves said about how much PPE had now been arranged for manufacture going forward so there are stocks in future and it’s a bold statement on the beds being ordered as I know it’s correct, I know what’s been ordered and delivered to where. There’s more to the country than London, Birmingham and Manchester. You seem to think I’m having a go for some reason, I’m not, I’m saying there is preparation for another wave. |
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"And it will be big
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021 "
Be nice to come on the forum and STOP seeing these threads. One after another. No one knows anything its all guess work. If we all knew what was going to happen in the next 4 months or more we would all be worth a fortune. Life is hard though without constantly guessworking the future.
How about some nice threads instead of COVID COVID COVID. |
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"And it will be big
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021
Be nice to come on the forum and STOP seeing these threads. One after another. No one knows anything its all guess work. If we all knew what was going to happen in the next 4 months or more we would all be worth a fortune. Life is hard though without constantly guessworking the future.
How about some nice threads instead of COVID COVID COVID."
Lol you are seeking solace in the wrong group sweetie …. this is the COVID COVID COVID group |
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"And it will be big
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021
Be nice to come on the forum and STOP seeing these threads. One after another. No one knows anything its all guess work. If we all knew what was going to happen in the next 4 months or more we would all be worth a fortune. Life is hard though without constantly guessworking the future.
How about some nice threads instead of COVID COVID COVID.
Lol you are seeking solace in the wrong group sweetie …. this is the COVID COVID COVID group"
Oh my mistake thought it was one of the 50 threads sweetie.dnt need to seek solace im perfectly fine but thank you for info. Much appreciated. Thank you thank you |
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"I think we are already in the second wave. As for nightingale hospitals, who is going to staff them? Surely it would be more cost effective to reopen closed wards on existing hospitals?"
You realise when you say ‘closed wards’ these are spaces being used by Covid-19 patients... not empty rooms.
As for Nightingale’s, you’re right. With the exception of Manchester’s which follows a step down model the others hoped to staff with ICU teams from other hospitals doing additional shifts. The reality is nobody had enough time to give as their own hospitals demands where too great, as time has gone on I think there’s also an argument the ‘frontline’ is literally exhausted.
All the Nightingale’s need to be shifted to our model in Manchester, that frees up ICU’s for the critical, re-introduces ward space for ‘other services’. |
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"And it will be big
Some say the biggest will be autumn winter 2021
Be nice to come on the forum and STOP seeing these threads. One after another. No one knows anything its all guess work. If we all knew what was going to happen in the next 4 months or more we would all be worth a fortune. Life is hard though without constantly guessworking the future.
How about some nice threads instead of COVID COVID COVID.
Lol you are seeking solace in the wrong group sweetie …. this is the COVID COVID COVID group
Oh my mistake thought it was one of the 50 threads sweetie.dnt need to seek solace im perfectly fine but thank you for info. Much appreciated. Thank you thank you"
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I am still pretty convinced that this was the 2nd wave... was I know loads of people that had a none descript viral infection that was pretty much as covid is described. I was told I didnt have flu .. which is what I thought it was...
Even my doctor thinks it was in hindsight probably covid 19. Even more so with the fact I'd been in Italy before I got sock |
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"I am still pretty convinced that this was the 2nd wave... was I know loads of people that had a none descript viral infection that was pretty much as covid is described. I was told I didnt have flu .. which is what I thought it was...
Even my doctor thinks it was in hindsight probably covid 19. Even more so with the fact I'd been in Italy before I got sock"
I think this is the case, but we will never know unless the Chinese come clean about when it first started, which they wont. |
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"I am still pretty convinced that this was the 2nd wave... was I know loads of people that had a none descript viral infection that was pretty much as covid is described. I was told I didnt have flu .. which is what I thought it was...
Even my doctor thinks it was in hindsight probably covid 19. Even more so with the fact I'd been in Italy before I got sock
I think this is the case, but we will never know unless the Chinese come clean about when it first started, which they wont."
It appears to me the concept of waves is misunderstood
Contagion is exponential
We have only had one lockdown
Waves are caused because the exponential growth is halted and then restarts
The second wave will occur because the exponential growth was stunted by a lockdown
The hospital admissions grossed up by 10 fold still suggest less than 5 percent of the population has had it
IF , IF ,
IF it existed before Jan it's totally bizarre that so many had it yet hospital icus were not reflective of this
And even then if it existed then due to the above concept of lockdown stopping growth we would still be in first wave
The alleged first wave makes zero logic
"Yeah there was a first wave loads a people got it every one I know had this nasty virus no one went to icu though then it stopped on it's own still with loads left to infect then started a second wave where people started to die more "
Erm no
A nasty lil bug certainly seemed to make a lot of people quite ill there are hundreds to choose from. cov-SARS2 it almost certainly was not
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"I am still pretty convinced that this was the 2nd wave... was I know loads of people that had a none descript viral infection that was pretty much as covid is described. I was told I didnt have flu .. which is what I thought it was...
Even my doctor thinks it was in hindsight probably covid 19. Even more so with the fact I'd been in Italy before I got sock
I think this is the case, but we will never know unless the Chinese come clean about when it first started, which they wont.
It appears to me the concept of waves is misunderstood
Contagion is exponential
We have only had one lockdown
Waves are caused because the exponential growth is halted and then restarts
The second wave will occur because the exponential growth was stunted by a lockdown
The hospital admissions grossed up by 10 fold still suggest less than 5 percent of the population has had it
IF , IF ,
IF it existed before Jan it's totally bizarre that so many had it yet hospital icus were not reflective of this
And even then if it existed then due to the above concept of lockdown stopping growth we would still be in first wave
The alleged first wave makes zero logic
"Yeah there was a first wave loads a people got it every one I know had this nasty virus no one went to icu though then it stopped on it's own still with loads left to infect then started a second wave where people started to die more "
Erm no
A nasty lil bug certainly seemed to make a lot of people quite ill there are hundreds to choose from. cov-SARS2 it almost certainly was not
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If your saying because no one was in ICU in January it could not be Cv19. In that case did all 39,000 who died go through ICU? |
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"I am still pretty convinced that this was the 2nd wave... was I know loads of people that had a none descript viral infection that was pretty much as covid is described. I was told I didnt have flu .. which is what I thought it was...
Even my doctor thinks it was in hindsight probably covid 19. Even more so with the fact I'd been in Italy before I got sock
I think this is the case, but we will never know unless the Chinese come clean about when it first started, which they wont.
It appears to me the concept of waves is misunderstood
Contagion is exponential
We have only had one lockdown
Waves are caused because the exponential growth is halted and then restarts
The second wave will occur because the exponential growth was stunted by a lockdown
The hospital admissions grossed up by 10 fold still suggest less than 5 percent of the population has had it
IF , IF ,
IF it existed before Jan it's totally bizarre that so many had it yet hospital icus were not reflective of this
And even then if it existed then due to the above concept of lockdown stopping growth we would still be in first wave
The alleged first wave makes zero logic
"Yeah there was a first wave loads a people got it every one I know had this nasty virus no one went to icu though then it stopped on it's own still with loads left to infect then started a second wave where people started to die more "
Erm no
A nasty lil bug certainly seemed to make a lot of people quite ill there are hundreds to choose from. cov-SARS2 it almost certainly was not
If your saying because no one was in ICU in January it could not be Cv19. In that case did all 39,000 who died go through ICU? "
No but the 5 fold who did not die absolutely did
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"I am still pretty convinced that this was the 2nd wave... was I know loads of people that had a none descript viral infection that was pretty much as covid is described. I was told I didnt have flu .. which is what I thought it was...
Even my doctor thinks it was in hindsight probably covid 19. Even more so with the fact I'd been in Italy before I got sock
I think this is the case, but we will never know unless the Chinese come clean about when it first started, which they wont.
It appears to me the concept of waves is misunderstood
Contagion is exponential
We have only had one lockdown
Waves are caused because the exponential growth is halted and then restarts
The second wave will occur because the exponential growth was stunted by a lockdown
The hospital admissions grossed up by 10 fold still suggest less than 5 percent of the population has had it
IF , IF ,
IF it existed before Jan it's totally bizarre that so many had it yet hospital icus were not reflective of this
And even then if it existed then due to the above concept of lockdown stopping growth we would still be in first wave
The alleged first wave makes zero logic
"Yeah there was a first wave loads a people got it every one I know had this nasty virus no one went to icu though then it stopped on it's own still with loads left to infect then started a second wave where people started to die more "
Erm no
A nasty lil bug certainly seemed to make a lot of people quite ill there are hundreds to choose from. cov-SARS2 it almost certainly was not
If your saying because no one was in ICU in January it could not be Cv19. In that case did all 39,000 who died go through ICU? "
No hes saying that if it was covid-19 it was the gradual start of the first wave which is still ongoing.
There was no spike in deaths. No spike in hospital admissions. No spike in ITU admissions. |
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"I am still pretty convinced that this was the 2nd wave... was I know loads of people that had a none descript viral infection that was pretty much as covid is described. I was told I didnt have flu .. which is what I thought it was...
Even my doctor thinks it was in hindsight probably covid 19. Even more so with the fact I'd been in Italy before I got sock
I think this is the case, but we will never know unless the Chinese come clean about when it first started, which they wont.
It appears to me the concept of waves is misunderstood
Contagion is exponential
We have only had one lockdown
Waves are caused because the exponential growth is halted and then restarts
The second wave will occur because the exponential growth was stunted by a lockdown
The hospital admissions grossed up by 10 fold still suggest less than 5 percent of the population has had it
IF , IF ,
IF it existed before Jan it's totally bizarre that so many had it yet hospital icus were not reflective of this
And even then if it existed then due to the above concept of lockdown stopping growth we would still be in first wave
The alleged first wave makes zero logic
"Yeah there was a first wave loads a people got it every one I know had this nasty virus no one went to icu though then it stopped on it's own still with loads left to infect then started a second wave where people started to die more "
Erm no
A nasty lil bug certainly seemed to make a lot of people quite ill there are hundreds to choose from. cov-SARS2 it almost certainly was not
"
you maybe right.. I maybe right but Italy and France are now finding cases in 2019 that were covid 19... I was in Italy at the end of 2019. They have already said that sometime in Feb the virus mutated to a much nastier version... which then most of Europe had from Feb till may.. they are suggesting its mutated again to be less vicious. So the early cases could have very well been covid 19.
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"I am still pretty convinced that this was the 2nd wave... was I know loads of people that had a none descript viral infection that was pretty much as covid is described. I was told I didnt have flu .. which is what I thought it was...
Even my doctor thinks it was in hindsight probably covid 19. Even more so with the fact I'd been in Italy before I got sock
I think this is the case, but we will never know unless the Chinese come clean about when it first started, which they wont.
It appears to me the concept of waves is misunderstood
Contagion is exponential
We have only had one lockdown
Waves are caused because the exponential growth is halted and then restarts
The second wave will occur because the exponential growth was stunted by a lockdown
The hospital admissions grossed up by 10 fold still suggest less than 5 percent of the population has had it
IF , IF ,
IF it existed before Jan it's totally bizarre that so many had it yet hospital icus were not reflective of this
And even then if it existed then due to the above concept of lockdown stopping growth we would still be in first wave
The alleged first wave makes zero logic
"Yeah there was a first wave loads a people got it every one I know had this nasty virus no one went to icu though then it stopped on it's own still with loads left to infect then started a second wave where people started to die more "
Erm no
A nasty lil bug certainly seemed to make a lot of people quite ill there are hundreds to choose from. cov-SARS2 it almost certainly was not
If your saying because no one was in ICU in January it could not be Cv19. In that case did all 39,000 who died go through ICU?
No hes saying that if it was covid-19 it was the gradual start of the first wave which is still ongoing.
There was no spike in deaths. No spike in hospital admissions. No spike in ITU admissions."
Exactly and it would not correlate with the exponential hospital curve directly evidenced |
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"I am still pretty convinced that this was the 2nd wave... was I know loads of people that had a none descript viral infection that was pretty much as covid is described. I was told I didnt have flu .. which is what I thought it was...
Even my doctor thinks it was in hindsight probably covid 19. Even more so with the fact I'd been in Italy before I got sock
I think this is the case, but we will never know unless the Chinese come clean about when it first started, which they wont.
It appears to me the concept of waves is misunderstood
Contagion is exponential
We have only had one lockdown
Waves are caused because the exponential growth is halted and then restarts
The second wave will occur because the exponential growth was stunted by a lockdown
The hospital admissions grossed up by 10 fold still suggest less than 5 percent of the population has had it
IF , IF ,
IF it existed before Jan it's totally bizarre that so many had it yet hospital icus were not reflective of this
And even then if it existed then due to the above concept of lockdown stopping growth we would still be in first wave
The alleged first wave makes zero logic
"Yeah there was a first wave loads a people got it every one I know had this nasty virus no one went to icu though then it stopped on it's own still with loads left to infect then started a second wave where people started to die more "
Erm no
A nasty lil bug certainly seemed to make a lot of people quite ill there are hundreds to choose from. cov-SARS2 it almost certainly was not
you maybe right.. I maybe right but Italy and France are now finding cases in 2019 that were covid 19... I was in Italy at the end of 2019. They have already said that sometime in Feb the virus mutated to a much nastier version... which then most of Europe had from Feb till may.. they are suggesting its mutated again to be less vicious. So the early cases could have very well been covid 19.
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That would not make evolutionary sense
Host killing or immobility is not in the best interests of a virus
But maybe I guess possible??? |
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"I am still pretty convinced that this was the 2nd wave... was I know loads of people that had a none descript viral infection that was pretty much as covid is described. I was told I didnt have flu .. which is what I thought it was...
Even my doctor thinks it was in hindsight probably covid 19. Even more so with the fact I'd been in Italy before I got sock
I think this is the case, but we will never know unless the Chinese come clean about when it first started, which they wont.
It appears to me the concept of waves is misunderstood
Contagion is exponential
We have only had one lockdown
Waves are caused because the exponential growth is halted and then restarts
The second wave will occur because the exponential growth was stunted by a lockdown
The hospital admissions grossed up by 10 fold still suggest less than 5 percent of the population has had it
IF , IF ,
IF it existed before Jan it's totally bizarre that so many had it yet hospital icus were not reflective of this
And even then if it existed then due to the above concept of lockdown stopping growth we would still be in first wave
The alleged first wave makes zero logic
"Yeah there was a first wave loads a people got it every one I know had this nasty virus no one went to icu though then it stopped on it's own still with loads left to infect then started a second wave where people started to die more "
Erm no
A nasty lil bug certainly seemed to make a lot of people quite ill there are hundreds to choose from. cov-SARS2 it almost certainly was not
you maybe right.. I maybe right but Italy and France are now finding cases in 2019 that were covid 19... I was in Italy at the end of 2019. They have already said that sometime in Feb the virus mutated to a much nastier version... which then most of Europe had from Feb till may.. they are suggesting its mutated again to be less vicious. So the early cases could have very well been covid 19.
That would not make evolutionary sense
Host killing or immobility is not in the best interests of a virus
But maybe I guess possible???"
hey it's what they said had happened that the virus mutated to be the more nasty one that we have had.. and that the one previous was milder. I just read the medical journals... not do them. I am 99.9% sure it will show I had it back in December |
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It's quickly becoming 1 of the most tedious subjects going, folk predicting when the 2nd wave will come and how big it will be as if they are some sort of expert. Fact is nobody knows when it will come or even if it will come at all for certain. All we know is that we can't stay in lockdown waiting for it and this continual speculation does nothing but maintain the fear factor preventing many from getting on with their lives. |
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"Will I have time stock pile on toilet rolls, flour,pasta an beans."
fill ya boots might be wave 3 4 aqnd 5 yet with all the doommongers on here 1 life live it as many have found out it can be halted instantly |
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