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"So the herd immunity comment then?
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?" Should’ve gone Barnard Castle. | |||
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok? Should’ve gone Barnard Castle." Appears he would have been fine to see it. | |||
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"So the herd immunity comment then?
Nerd immunity? "Turns out he didn’t mention it (allegedly)
Oh the outrage a few months back.
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?" Almost as good as It’s physically impossible for me to sweat. | |||
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok? Should’ve gone Barnard Castle. Appears he would have been fine to see it." See what ? | |||
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok? Should’ve gone Barnard Castle. Appears he would have been fine to see it. See what ?" Barnard Castle. | |||
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"Flipping heck this still banging on ? "Yep, they must find something to be mad about! | |||
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"Flipping heck this still banging on ?
Yep, they must find something to be mad about! "Impotent rage. | |||
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok? Should’ve gone Barnard Castle. Appears he would have been fine to see it. See what ? Barnard Castle." It's a town | |||
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"Flipping heck this still banging on ? "that was my thoughts. Plenty more important things to discuss What About all the positive news that means social distancing may soon be able to be lifted between small groups of people... or that greece and Spain are trying to encourage British tourists back from July. Or that due to such low numbers of infection the vaccine is not able to be tested sufficiently x | |||
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok? Should’ve gone Barnard Castle. Appears he would have been fine to see it. See what ? Barnard Castle. It's a town "All this fuss about it I might stop and see it on my way to Northumberland. | |||
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok? Should’ve gone Barnard Castle. Appears he would have been fine to see it. See what ? Barnard Castle. It's a town
All this fuss about it I might stop and see it on my way to Northumberland. "It's a nice market town. | |||
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok? Should’ve gone Barnard Castle. Appears he would have been fine to see it. See what ? Barnard Castle. It's a town "Ok never been. | |||
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"Flipping heck this still banging on ?
Yep, they must find something to be mad about! "Baldrick in Black Adder goes forth . His poem with changed words , moan moan moan , MOAN MOAN MOAN | |||
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"Flipping heck this still banging on ? that was my thoughts. Plenty more important things to discuss
What About all the positive news that means social distancing may soon be able to be lifted between small groups of people... or that greece and Spain are trying to encourage British tourists back from July. Or that due to such low numbers of infection the vaccine is not able to be tested sufficiently x"Yes the Spain thing is good news. | |||
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"Flipping heck this still banging on ? that was my thoughts. Plenty more important things to discuss
What About all the positive news that means social distancing may soon be able to be lifted between small groups of people... or that greece and Spain are trying to encourage British tourists back from July. Or that due to such low numbers of infection the vaccine is not able to be tested sufficiently x"Come on , that’s intelligent reporting That’s boring | |||
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?" Yes... if you don’t feel you’re likely to have COVID-19, you’re allowed a half bottle of brandy instead to test the theory  | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. " If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly. | |||
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"Anyone see the numbers today. I know it’s a bank holiday and not the full picture. But encouraging. " Yep, I really think we are heading in the right direction   | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. " All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown. | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. " His statement just raised even more questions. | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly. " OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing. | |||
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"Who wants an ice cream ? " Ooo yes please, I wouldn't mind one of those raspberry magnums | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. His statement just raised even more questions." I don't think so. | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown." Precisely | |||
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"Who wants an ice cream ? Ooo yes please, I wouldn't mind one of those raspberry magnums "There you go nice & cold enjoy | |||
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"Who wants an ice cream ? Ooo yes please, I wouldn't mind one of those raspberry magnums
There you go nice & cold enjoy "Thanks! | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. His statement just raised even more questions. I don't think so. " Good for you | |||
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"Flipping heck this still banging on ?
Yep, they must find something to be mad about!
Impotent rage. "Lack of sex | |||
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok? Should’ve gone Barnard Castle. Appears he would have been fine to see it. See what ? Barnard Castle. It's a town
Ok never been."... one street couple Old style bars and antique shops Etc etc you get the style of it. | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly. OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing. " That doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote. | |||
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"So on the basis of his wife being slightly ill he took his family 260 miles away. None of them have been tested or confirmed to have had Covid-19. A quick internet search will tell you that his wife was born on April 12th. Rather than drive back, due to his poor eyesight, which he tested by driving to a tourist attraction exposing him and his family and the public in general to the dangers of an accident, he could've used public transport. First class all the way to london on the train." . Anyone ask or know if his wife can drive ??????? | |||
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"So on the basis of his wife being slightly ill he took his family 260 miles away. None of them have been tested or confirmed to have had Covid-19. A quick internet search will tell you that his wife was born on April 12th. Rather than drive back, due to his poor eyesight, which he tested by driving to a tourist attraction exposing him and his family and the public in general to the dangers of an accident, he could've used public transport. First class all the way to london on the train." | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. " Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does? | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly. OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing. That doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote. " Yes it does, you said you don't think it was an exceptional circumstance, I said I don't think what he did was wrong. I disagreed with you, protecting your child is not wrong and it is an exceptional circumstance. | |||
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"So on the basis of his wife being slightly ill he took his family 260 miles away. None of them have been tested or confirmed to have had Covid-19. A quick internet search will tell you that his wife was born on April 12th. Rather than drive back, due to his poor eyesight, which he tested by driving to a tourist attraction exposing him and his family and the public in general to the dangers of an accident, he could've used public transport. First class all the way to london on the train.. Anyone ask or know if his wife can drive ??????? " His wife cannot drive, well thats what he thinks apparently  | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does?" I didn't say he couldn't comment, stop trying to cause problems. | |||
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"The one thing I feel sorry for Boris about....he wanted this job so much, now he has it, nobody believes he is actually running the show. He will forever go down as the PM who's adviser did all the PM'ing!! "Watch yourself, you're talking about our new Churchill! No sympathy. I have enough respect for myself not to apply for jobs I couldn't do. This guy is a thicko who thinks that because he can come up with ten quotations in Latin, he is clever. Sorry, that may do for the Daily Mil readers but it doesn't cut it for me. | |||
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"Flipping heck this still banging on ? that was my thoughts. Plenty more important things to discuss
What About all the positive news that means social distancing may soon be able to be lifted between small groups of people... or that greece and Spain are trying to encourage British tourists back from July. Or that due to such low numbers of infection the vaccine is not able to be tested sufficiently x"I was looking for your quarantine thread earlier. I wanted to post the good news about Spain.
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown." | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does? I didn't say he couldn't comment, stop trying to cause problems. " So what has having children got to do with anything, why would you ask if he had them? | |||
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"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself " Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly! | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does? I didn't say he couldn't comment, stop trying to cause problems. So what has having children got to do with anything, why would you ask if he had them?" Because he's commenting on whether he thinks it was exceptional circumstances, until you have kids you can't possibly understand how it feels to be in a situation where you worry about them. | |||
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"So on the basis of his wife being slightly ill he took his family 260 miles away. None of them have been tested or confirmed to have had Covid-19. A quick internet search will tell you that his wife was born on April 12th. Rather than drive back, due to his poor eyesight, which he tested by driving to a tourist attraction exposing him and his family and the public in general to the dangers of an accident, he could've used public transport. First class all the way to london on the train. " | |||
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"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly! "I don’t understand how anyone can accept that excuse? | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly. OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing. That doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote. Yes it does, you said you don't think it was an exceptional circumstance, I said I don't think what he did was wrong. I disagreed with you, protecting your child is not wrong and it is an exceptional circumstance." The phrase 'exceptional circumstance' usually means one that is highly unusual. In this case, being a parent who thinks they might have covid19 is not highly unusual. If you want, you can interpret 'exceptional circumstance' to mean 'extremely important to you' As I said, I don't that is how the vast majority of people would have interpreted it, because loads of parents have very obviously thought they needed to stay at home whilst dealing with covid19, and have done so. But the situation has now changed, and parents should take advantage of this. That was the sum total of my post. I'll make this my last response to you on this subject - I don't have patience to have to explain my post a third time, as I suspect will happen. | |||
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"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself " apparently there are... I'd have more respect for him if he just came out and said "i look my wife out on her birthday and the kid to barnard castle for a day out" I get it... anyone who has been there will tell you its a lovely place!!! they whole eye blurry test drive business, i am surprised he kept a straight face | |||
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"Thinks more of his kids than he does about his parents anyway They are in the at risk group not his kids" Why he never crossed paths with them | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does? I didn't say he couldn't comment, stop trying to cause problems. So what has having children got to do with anything, why would you ask if he had them? Because he's commenting on whether he thinks it was exceptional circumstances, until you have kids you can't possibly understand how it feels to be in a situation where you worry about them. " And I’m saying that unless you are a man you can’t possibly understand anything we do or say and our reasons for it. | |||
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"Rather than having reasonable justification he seemed to give just a few excuses for spreading a virus potentially 300m." Here's what happened.. The wife felt a bit iffy, they knew they were going to have to isolate and thought "here, I know! let's go to the folk`s place, it'll be a lot nicer doing it up there than in London.." and that's what they did, and had a jolly nice time with a nice day trip thrown in. We all know it. All the rest of this is just pure fucking spin to make it look less shit. Is it a hanging offence? No. Is it a resignation offence? In his position, yes | |||
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"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself apparently there are... I'd have more respect for him if he just came out and said "i look my wife out on her birthday and the kid to barnard castle for a day out" I get it... anyone who has been there will tell you its a lovely place!!! they whole eye blurry test drive business, i am surprised he kept a straight face" I'm just surprised they didn't call to the pizza Express...oh hang on it doesn't have one | |||
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"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly!
I don’t understand how anyone can accept that excuse?"His lack of contrition and humility and parts of the public willing to except that is what I find hardest to believe. The support for him seems to be people agreeing they would do something similar for their family...if you want to admit you guilt fine. But this guy is the chief advisor the prime minister and actually created thai policy and days later decided parts of it where open tennis interpretation | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly. OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing. " ..that's fine, but there are consequences to those actions. | |||
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"Rather than having reasonable justification he seemed to give just a few excuses for spreading a virus potentially 300m. Here's what happened.. The wife felt a bit iffy, they knew they were going to have to isolate and thought "here, I know! let's go to the folk`s place, it'll be a lot nicer doing it up there than in London.." and that's what they did, and had a jolly nice time with a nice day trip thrown in. We all know it. All the rest of this is just pure fucking spin to make it look less shit. Is it a hanging offence? No. Is it a resignation offence? In his position, yes" Nail accurately planted on the head! | |||
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"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly! "...to a well known beauty spot...on your wife's birthday | |||
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"Thinks more of his kids than he does about his parents anyway They are in the at risk group not his kids Why he never crossed paths with them " Indeed It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to. The media have not had their blood yet so expect it to go on longer. D.C. has made his statement of events and seems to have caught the media of guard as they nearly all asked the same question. | |||
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". I just think he should have done the statement earlier than he has done, rather than come across as he did, maybe lessons will be learnt? " ..and maybe have asked his employer beforehand how a 260 mile round trip (with stops/detours) in order to self isolate near his family might look if revealed to the public! | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. " Not a chance
He's trying desperately to spin it, which is his job. What he did was at the height of the epidemic, when it was most important that people stayed put. Driving hundreds of miles, just in case something might happen, isn't even an emergency. Everyone else locked down because the government told us to, especially over Easter.
His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.
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"Does The Gov websites need a new warning about dodgy eyes after having Covid? And if so do we need to go to Barnard Castle to make sure they are OK? " It's going to be a new centre of excellence for visual acuity | |||
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". I just think he should have done the statement earlier than he has done, rather than come across as he did, maybe lessons will be learnt? ..and maybe have asked his employer beforehand how a 260 mile round trip (with stops/detours) in order to self isolate near his family might look if revealed to the public! "I totally agree! Like I said I'm not a fan nor a parent, I just know that maybe my dad might just have done the same thing, I do know it is bullshit, but I can't comment any further. | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. Not a chance
He's trying desperately to spin it, which is his job. What he did was at the height of the epidemic, when it was most important that people stayed put. Driving hundreds of miles, just in case something might happen, isn't even an emergency. Everyone else locked down because the government told us to, especially over Easter.
His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.
His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll. "Ironically the hate filled people harassing him outside his home have given him the excuse to travel. If they had not behaved in that way he would not of had the excuse. Self inflicted on their part. | |||
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" Indeed It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to. " We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes. Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said! | |||
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"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself apparently there are... I'd have more respect for him if he just came out and said "i look my wife out on her birthday and the kid to barnard castle for a day out" I get it... anyone who has been there will tell you its a lovely place!!! they whole eye blurry test drive business, i am surprised he kept a straight face" Best choice of excuses that they could use and it took at least an extra half an hour to pick the best of a bad bunch . | |||
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" Indeed It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to. We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes. Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said! "Exactly! All those details are laughable. He almost told us how many branches the tree above the bench they sat on had. Pathetic! | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. Not a chance
He's trying desperately to spin it, which is his job. What he did was at the height of the epidemic, when it was most important that people stayed put. Driving hundreds of miles, just in case something might happen, isn't even an emergency. Everyone else locked down because the government told us to, especially over Easter.
His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.
His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll.
Ironically the hate filled people harassing him outside his home have given him the excuse to travel. If they had not behaved in that way he would not of had the excuse. Self inflicted on their part.
"All those rabblerousers outside his house during lockdown. When the coppers were nicking any more then 2 people together. I wander how they missed them eh | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. Not a chance
He's trying desperately to spin it, which is his job. What he did was at the height of the epidemic, when it was most important that people stayed put. Driving hundreds of miles, just in case something might happen, isn't even an emergency. Everyone else locked down because the government told us to, especially over Easter.
His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.
His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll. " | |||
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" Indeed It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to. We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes. Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said! "Well who better than the accused to say what happened. I struggled with some aspects of it but he has accounted for all the sightings/trips and openly saying many of the media reports were totally false-shock horror. The reporters obviously forgot to have a chat beforehand as they mostly asked the same question. I expect many will not believe it but its up to them to prove it especially when trying to get someone sacked. If they can prove his events are false then fair enough sack him. If not move on | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. Not a chance
He's trying desperately to spin it, which is his job. What he did was at the height of the epidemic, when it was most important that people stayed put. Driving hundreds of miles, just in case something might happen, isn't even an emergency. Everyone else locked down because the government told us to, especially over Easter.
His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.
His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll.
Ironically the hate filled people harassing him outside his home have given him the excuse to travel. If they had not behaved in that way he would not of had the excuse. Self inflicted on their part.
All those rabblerousers outside his house during lockdown. When the coppers were nicking any more then 2 people together.
I wander how they missed them eh "Must be the same coppers that missed the reporters | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. Not a chance
He's trying desperately to spin it, which is his job. What he did was at the height of the epidemic, when it was most important that people stayed put. Driving hundreds of miles, just in case something might happen, isn't even an emergency. Everyone else locked down because the government told us to, especially over Easter.
His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.
His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll.
Ironically the hate filled people harassing him outside his home have given him the excuse to travel. If they had not behaved in that way he would not of had the excuse. Self inflicted on their part.
"Cummings and his mates have made the life of hundreds of thousands of EU citizens pretty miserable for four years. This clown has also contributed to racism and hatred that have gone up since the Brexit thing. I’m not going to feel sorry for this leech because he has ten journalists around his car for 40 secs. He can get lost and tell his fairy tales to whoever believes them. | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. Not a chance
He's trying desperately to spin it, which is his job. What he did was at the height of the epidemic, when it was most important that people stayed put. Driving hundreds of miles, just in case something might happen, isn't even an emergency. Everyone else locked down because the government told us to, especially over Easter.
His flimsiest of excuses are pathetic, when he's been attending the SAGE emergency committee influencing the country on how to behave.
His judgment is severely deficient and he should be sacked from our payroll.
Ironically the hate filled people harassing him outside his home have given him the excuse to travel. If they had not behaved in that way he would not of had the excuse. Self inflicted on their part.
Cummings and his mates have made the life of hundreds of thousands of EU citizens pretty miserable for four years. This clown has also contributed to racism and hatred that have gone up since the Brexit thing. I’m not going to feel sorry for this leech because he has ten journalists around his car for 40 secs. He can get lost and tell his fairy tales to whoever believes them. "With most if not all of the press and opposition parties baying for his blood they should be able to prove he is guilty and lied. SKS is a legal expert so would like to hear from him. If he can't prove it then move on. For the record I thought he should have resigned to avoid what's happened for the last few days | |||
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"Rather than having reasonable justification he seemed to give just a few excuses for spreading a virus potentially 300m. Here's what happened.. The wife felt a bit iffy, they knew they were going to have to isolate and thought "here, I know! let's go to the folk`s place, it'll be a lot nicer doing it up there than in London.." and that's what they did, and had a jolly nice time with a nice day trip thrown in. We all know it. All the rest of this is just pure fucking spin to make it look less shit. Is it a hanging offence? No. Is it a resignation offence? In his position, yes" Totally this | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. Interesting idea, so that would mean you cannot comment on anything a man says or does? I didn't say he couldn't comment, stop trying to cause problems. So what has having children got to do with anything, why would you ask if he had them? Because he's commenting on whether he thinks it was exceptional circumstances, until you have kids you can't possibly understand how it feels to be in a situation where you worry about them. " Seriously forget the original reasons for the trip up north for a second. Do You Honestly believe it was right for him to travel 30 miles in the wrong direction to Barnard Castle a known bueaty spot to then exit the car with his family for a walk down the by river on his wife's birthday no less!!!! FML Does he think we are stupid enough to buy his shitty excuse that it was a test drive due to eyesight issues? KJ x | |||
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" Indeed It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to. We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes. Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said! "Yes I have done something very similar when driving trucks, if I had been ill I would go for a drive in my car to be sure I was fit before getting in the truck. It was only the journalist who made the test run about eyesight, he said his illness had made him weak and effected his eyesight not that her drove the car to test his eyesight. But that is their job to try to big up non stories | |||
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" Indeed It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to. We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes. Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said!
Yes I have done something very similar when driving trucks, if I had been ill I would go for a drive in my car to be sure I was fit before getting in the truck.
It was only the journalist who made the test run about eyesight, he said his illness had made him weak and effected his eyesight not that her drove the car to test his eyesight.
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok? Almost as good as It’s physically impossible for me to sweat. " | |||
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"This is far more important than what dominic Cummings as done or not. Can you focus on the real shit we are in. Which no one as any answers. He without sin cast the first stone. Just a thought" My behaviour throughout this has been beyond reproach Fucking right I'm casting stones | |||
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?" ... With my 4yrold child in the car, my all consuming concern for whom made me drive 260 miles in the first place.. It's fucking laughable | |||
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" Yes I have done something very similar when driving trucks, if I had been ill I would go for a drive in my car to be sure I was fit before getting in the truck. It was only the journalist who made the test run about eyesight, he said his illness had made him weak and effected his eyesight not that her drove the car to test his eyesight. But that is their job to try to big up non stories" Most normal people who are unsure whether theyre fit to drive wouldn't test whether theyre fit to drive by going for a drive.. illogical and seriously dangerous. | |||
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"Let's just face it, this country is broken. '5th largest economy in the world' we are constantly told, yet we have had a horrendous death toll. Boris said we had magnificent testing facilities at the start of this, it was clearly bullshit. At the moment, I'm really not caring what Cummings did or didn't do, I'm more concerned that the truth about any of this virus can ever be gotten to. People have died that didn't need to a lot of families will never get the answers they deserve. Two things things we have lost over this whole thing. Firstly, the notion that we are a great country is in tatters and, any small shred of integrity we had in our politics has just gone. These really are sad times." Too true and well said | |||
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"Let's just face it, this country is broken. '5th largest economy in the world' we are constantly told, yet we have had a horrendous death toll. Boris said we had magnificent testing facilities at the start of this, it was clearly bullshit. At the moment, I'm really not caring what Cummings did or didn't do, I'm more concerned that the truth about any of this virus can ever be gotten to. People have died that didn't need to a lot of families will never get the answers they deserve. Two things things we have lost over this whole thing. Firstly, the notion that we are a great country is in tatters and, any small shred of integrity we had in our politics has just gone. These really are sad times." I couldn’t agree more with the whole of your post especially the last paragraph. However, the image of this country has been severely damaged for a few years now. I often go to the continent for work and I can promise you that people are laughing their heads off at our politicians and at this country. The UK has always been well respected by a lot of countries especially in Europe but I know for sure that we have become a laughing stock over there. As as country, we’ve always had a tendency to believe that we are better than other countries for some reason ( the war, the war, the War, the war etc...) but these are sobering moments. The calibre of the people In this gvt is nothing short of abysmal! I mean we’ve known incompetent politicians in the past but this lot are really different league. Good job they can shit on the EU now and then to deflect attention but still, there are a scary bunch of clowns! | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly. OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing. That doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote. Yes it does, you said you don't think it was an exceptional circumstance, I said I don't think what he did was wrong. I disagreed with you, protecting your child is not wrong and it is an exceptional circumstance. The phrase 'exceptional circumstance' usually means one that is highly unusual. In this case, being a parent who thinks they might have covid19 is not highly unusual. If you want, you can interpret 'exceptional circumstance' to mean 'extremely important to you' As I said, I don't that is how the vast majority of people would have interpreted it, because loads of parents have very obviously thought they needed to stay at home whilst dealing with covid19, and have done so. But the situation has now changed, and parents should take advantage of this. That was the sum total of my post. I'll make this my last response to you on this subject - I don't have patience to have to explain my post a third time, as I suspect will happen. " At the risk of dragging this all up again... the exceptional circumstance thing was written up mostly for victims of domestic or child abuse, after people were being killed/abused. That would be a definition of an exceptional circumstance that requires you to leave your maun residence. Not catching a virus in a pandemic. | |||
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"If you can listen to the 'eye test' story and say "yes that sounds reasonable to me.." you are either an idiot or a fucking liar! Allow me to elaborate.. 1 if you think you may be unfit to drive you don't test the hypothesis with your family in the car 2 if you think you may be unfit to drive and you decide to test it by going for a drive potentially putting other drivers and pedestrians at risk you deserve to be jailed 3 his wife could have driven 4 the government could have sent a car to take them to London 5 on this 'test drive' they stopped to sightsee not once, but TWICE Its laughable" This.. | |||
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"The calibre of the people In this government is nothing short of abysmal! I mean we’ve known incompetent politicians in the past but this lot are really different league." Agreed. On the Radio 4 Six O'Clock News, today, after Cummings' statement/Q&A session, a BBC political correspondent said the following: "It's difficult to understate Mr Cummings' importance to the Boris Johnson administration, one Whitehall insider described him as "the only brain in the building ..."" Taken as an assessment of the capabilities of Boris and his Cabinet, that's not an unsurprising comment. They literally are the dregs of what the Tory Party has to offer and they all owe their current jobs to Cummings' abilities. He even had to engineer the ousting of Sajid Javid because Javid had a spine. Quite a number of tories want Cummings gone because they think he's harming the government - and he is. In which case, he should stay - because the more damage he can do to these amoral, self-absorbed, arrogant fuckwits, the better. | |||
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"Let's just face it, this country is broken. '5th largest economy in the world' we are constantly told, yet we have had a horrendous death toll. Boris said we had magnificent testing facilities at the start of this, it was clearly bullshit. At the moment, I'm really not caring what Cummings did or didn't do, I'm more concerned that the truth about any of this virus can ever be gotten to. People have died that didn't need to a lot of families will never get the answers they deserve. Two things things we have lost over this whole thing. Firstly, the notion that we are a great country is in tatters and, any small shred of integrity we had in our politics has just gone. These really are sad times. I couldn’t agree more with the whole of your post especially the last paragraph. However, the image of this country has been severely damaged for a few years now. I often go to the continent for work and I can promise you that people are laughing their heads off at our politicians and at this country. The UK has always been well respected by a lot of countries especially in Europe but I know for sure that we have become a laughing stock over there. As as country, we’ve always had a tendency to believe that we are better than other countries for some reason ( the war, the war, the War, the war etc...) but these are sobering moments. The calibre of the people In this gvt is nothing short of abysmal! I mean we’ve known incompetent politicians in the past but this lot are really different league. Good job they can shit on the EU now and then to deflect attention but still, there are a scary bunch of clowns! " Couldn't agree more | |||
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"If you can listen to the 'eye test' story and say "yes that sounds reasonable to me.." you are either an idiot or a fucking liar! Allow me to elaborate.. 1 if you think you may be unfit to drive you don't test the hypothesis with your family in the car 2 if you think you may be unfit to drive and you decide to test it by going for a drive potentially putting other drivers and pedestrians at risk you deserve to be jailed 3 his wife could have driven 4 the government could have sent a car to take them to London 5 on this 'test drive' they stopped to sightsee not once, but TWICE Its laughable" I only caught snippets of it in work and couldn't believe some of the stuff that was coming out of the blokes mouth. It was like a comedy sketch but it really isn't meant to be funny  | |||
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"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly!
I don’t understand how anyone can accept that excuse?"And how he even thinks it's an acceptable excuse himself. "Oh my vision was shit, I couldn't see very well so I thought I'd chuck the Mrs and kid in the car and take a 30 mile spin just to see how much or little I could actually see whilst driving" I still cannot believe a seemingly intelligent bloke thinks the whole country will just say "yes ok that's fine, no problem"  | |||
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"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly! "It’s may sound daft but I know several people who would do exactly this! | |||
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"I hope no one is gullible enough to believe the story he told. I think he just made things worse for himself Nothing unbelievable about going for a drive because you can’t see properly!
I don’t understand how anyone can accept that excuse?
And how he even thinks it's an acceptable excuse himself.
"Oh my vision was shit, I couldn't see very well so I thought I'd chuck the Mrs and kid in the car and take a 30 mile spin just to see how much or little I could actually see whilst driving"
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" Indeed It seems some on here only hear the bits they want to. We've only heard Cummings version of events, which he's likely to sanitise for damage limitation purposes. Do you honestly believe that nonsense about his trip to Barnard Castle? The detail in that fairy tale excuse calls into question the veracity in the rest of what he said!
Yes I have done something very similar when driving trucks, if I had been ill I would go for a drive in my car to be sure I was fit before getting in the truck.
It was only the journalist who made the test run about eyesight, he said his illness had made him weak and effected his eyesight not that her drove the car to test his eyesight.
But that is their job to try to big up non stories"Are you mental? That’s like having a drink then going for a drive to check if your not too pissed to drive . And your a truck driver ? | |||
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"@_hetalkingstove Not cheap at all, if you don't have children you don't know what it's like to be concerned about your child's welfare. If you want to disagree with my initial post please do so by engaging with what I said directly. OK, I think taking his child to somewhere he might have more support wasn't wrong and as a parent I'd have done the same thing. " And driving with his kids in the car whilst testing his eyesight is ok though? Cool! | |||
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"Just how many “celebs” escaped from London to lesser inhabited parts of the country ?????namely south west /Devon Cornwall And drove back to London on a few occasions once to pick up his daughters boyfriend up as “I can’t do lockdown without him “ ... And the other time to sort out his staff ... any papers screaming about that ???? Cummings fucked up. But he’s not the only one. " It's not the fucking up, it's hypocrisy of HIM fucking up. And it's the damage it has done to the government's message | |||
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"Just how many “celebs” escaped from London to lesser inhabited parts of the country ?????namely south west /Devon Cornwall And drove back to London on a few occasions once to pick up his daughters boyfriend up as “I can’t do lockdown without him “ ... And the other time to sort out his staff ... any papers screaming about that ???? Cummings fucked up. But he’s not the only one. It's not the fucking up, it's hypocrisy of HIM fucking up. And it's the damage it has done to the government's message" Agreed. Loads of celebrities and non celebrities have broken lockdown rules. Difference is they didn’t help make the rules. Can’t make rules break the rules you’ve made and get caught breaking them | |||
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"Ok let me get this straight, if my eyesight is bad I drive thirty miles to see if it ok?" No..you misunderstood. You drive 30 miles to a secret castle where a group of wizards mix up spells to make you see again. Then you are cured of the blindness thingy but you are sworn to secrecy and cannot tell anyone or at least not the whole truth. I tried it, put a blindfold on, drove a bit and crashed, didn't work for me, will just wear glasses in future. | |||
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"Just how many “celebs” escaped from London to lesser inhabited parts of the country ?????namely south west /Devon Cornwall And drove back to London on a few occasions once to pick up his daughters boyfriend up as “I can’t do lockdown without him “ ... And the other time to sort out his staff ... any papers screaming about that ???? Cummings fucked up. But he’s not the only one. " He and the wife had covid19 When they decided to flee... spreading out a potentially deadly virus
What really fucks most of us up, is that he was one of the high ranks who had to promote this message for all of us idiots to follow. And he’s the first to bend the rules as he wishes ...
All his excuses are such BS excuses, someone who’s basically a millionaire, isn’t able to find aid for his kids in London? Are you kidding me?
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"Just how many “celebs” escaped from London to lesser inhabited parts of the country ?????namely south west /Devon Cornwall And drove back to London on a few occasions once to pick up his daughters boyfriend up as “I can’t do lockdown without him “ ... And the other time to sort out his staff ... any papers screaming about that ???? Cummings fucked up. But he’s not the only one. He and the wife had covid19 When they decided to flee... spreading out a potentially deadly virus
What really fucks most of us up, is that he was one of the high ranks who had to promote this message for all of us idiots to follow. And he’s the first to bend the rules as he wishes ...
All his excuses are such BS excuses, someone who’s basically a millionaire, isn’t able to find aid for his kids in London? Are you kidding me?
I’m beyond outraged at this farse and how some just accepts it! Btw some who ended up meeting people (like the Guy working for SAGE) decided to step down, rightfully so ... "...has it come out tha they both had covid ??? Don’t think it did. Symptoms yes. ..., | |||
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"My mate put it best last night... The barnard castle story reminds me of the bloke in a&e trying to explain how a Light bulb just happened to get stuck in his arse .... He had to hit all the main points In the story because of the Durham police investigation.... The question now is... was it plausible enough that Durham police don’t charge him? If yes... then he gets away with it! If no... then Johnson will have to sack him! So.... test drive..... or jolly for his wife’s birthday " The press conference was in all likelihood put back to try and ensure they knew what it was they had to have a story for.. That he's basically said he test drove for a 60 mile round trip as he wasn't sure he was safe to but with his wife and child in the car raises issues that the police will look at.. If in doing so any other trips out come to light then he will have to tell boris another BS story and boris will have to nod and say yes Dom.. | |||
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"My mate put it best last night... The barnard castle story reminds me of the bloke in a&e trying to explain how a Light bulb just happened to get stuck in his arse .... He had to hit all the main points In the story because of the Durham police investigation.... The question now is... was it plausible enough that Durham police don’t charge him? If yes... then he gets away with it! If no... then Johnson will have to sack him! So.... test drive..... or jolly for his wife’s birthday " It depends if the bloke in A+E was uncle Fester
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The bit about the wife taking the kid to hospital when he was "unwell" being one of them. I'm surprised they are not digging to find where he was then,as it feels a cover story to me.
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown. Precisely" True that most of us would do anything to protect our kids. Which in Cummings case, the way to protect his kid, would be to pick up the phone and make a call. He could have had all the assistance he needed at his home within minutes. He is not a single parent working 50 hours a week on minimum wage. He is a man with more resources than most people in this country can dream of. Instead he deliberately endangered the life of his child by making multiple unnecessary and unjustifiable long journeys, several of which he has openly admitted he made while unsure whether he was well enough to drive. I think that if most ordinary people did this they would be charged with reckless endangerment, and social services would start investigating. | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown. Precisely True that most of us would do anything to protect our kids. Which in Cummings case, the way to protect his kid, would be to pick up the phone and make a call. He could have had all the assistance he needed at his home within minutes. He is not a single parent working 50 hours a week on minimum wage. He is a man with more resources than most people in this country can dream of. Instead he deliberately endangered the life of his child by making multiple unnecessary and unjustifiable long journeys, several of which he has openly admitted he made while unsure whether he was well enough to drive. I think that if most ordinary people did this they would be charged with reckless endangerment, and social services would start investigating." | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown. Precisely True that most of us would do anything to protect our kids. Which in Cummings case, the way to protect his kid, would be to pick up the phone and make a call. He could have had all the assistance he needed at his home within minutes. He is not a single parent working 50 hours a week on minimum wage. He is a man with more resources than most people in this country can dream of. Instead he deliberately endangered the life of his child by making multiple unnecessary and unjustifiable long journeys, several of which he has openly admitted he made while unsure whether he was well enough to drive. I think that if most ordinary people did this they would be charged with reckless endangerment, and social services would start investigating." Exactly this. He did absolutely nothing to determine whether travelling was truly his only option. He just did it. | |||
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" Back to Cummins though....of course he was just filling in the pointers that he knew were in the public domain. The bit about the wife taking the kid to hospital when he was "unwell" being one of them. I'm surprised they are not digging to find where he was then,as it feels a cover story to me. . According to his wife Writing in the spectator about the lock down , she said he got ill on the 28th and was for ten days laying "doggo in bed with a high fever and spasms that made the muscles lump and twitch in his legs " I am not sure how he would be well enough to drive on the 2nd April as she said he was so ill in bed , which one is lying? Him or her? I bet she gets thrown under the bus I suppose it would be easy for the police to check if he was actually at the hospital picking up his wife and kid but it did look like he was making sure him driving off somewhere was being covered by him , I really hope he isn't using a sick kid to cover up a story. Sadly because of the contradictions in the story you wouldn't know which part is true As she said she became ill the day before him, wouldn't she have still been in isolation? Would the hospital have let her in the Hospital with symptoms? Now before anyone shouts yes but you would want to go to Hospital with your child, yes, we all would, but the whole point of them going to Durham was to get childcare if the worse happens. If both of you are in isolation because of Covid then this was the time to use the childcare ( the 17 year old niece )they say they drove 260 miles to get So many holes in this story that it is like a colander. " A small detour to a well known pharmaceutical company maybe | |||
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" Back to Cummins though....of course he was just filling in the pointers that he knew were in the public domain. The bit about the wife taking the kid to hospital when he was "unwell" being one of them. I'm surprised they are not digging to find where he was then,as it feels a cover story to me. . According to his wife Writing in the spectator about the lock down , she said he got ill on the 28th and was for ten days laying "doggo in bed with a high fever and spasms that made the muscles lump and twitch in his legs " I am not sure how he would be well enough to drive on the 2nd April as she said he was so ill in bed , which one is lying? Him or her? I bet she gets thrown under the bus I suppose it would be easy for the police to check if he was actually at the hospital picking up his wife and kid but it did look like he was making sure him driving off somewhere was being covered by him , I really hope he isn't using a sick kid to cover up a story. Sadly because of the contradictions in the story you wouldn't know which part is true As she said she became ill the day before him, wouldn't she have still been in isolation? Would the hospital have let her in the Hospital with symptoms? Now before anyone shouts yes but you would want to go to Hospital with your child, yes, we all would, but the whole point of them going to Durham was to get childcare if the worse happens. If both of you are in isolation because of Covid then this was the time to use the childcare ( the 17 year old niece )they say they drove 260 miles to get So many holes in this story that it is like a colander. " My point on that was he seemed quick to point out why he wasn't at the hospital. It didn't seem it needed a explanation unless he was trying to cover for being somewhere else. | |||
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"At this stage it's his character that's in question. Everyone knows he's either lied or bent the truth to a shocking degree, using his child as justification. And the sole aim is to save his own ass. Do you want a man who thinks and act like this at the top of government? It's Trumpian to the Nth degree" YouGov poll just out. 59% think he should go 27% stay 14% dont know. | |||
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"My mate put it best last night... The barnard castle story reminds me of the bloke in a&e trying to explain how a Light bulb just happened to get stuck in his arse .... He had to hit all the main points In the story because of the Durham police investigation.... The question now is... was it plausible enough that Durham police don’t charge him? If yes... then he gets away with it! If no... then Johnson will have to sack him! So.... test drive..... or jolly for his wife’s birthday The press conference was in all likelihood put back to try and ensure they knew what it was they had to have a story for.. That he's basically said he test drove for a 60 mile round trip as he wasn't sure he was safe to but with his wife and child in the car raises issues that the police will look at.. If in doing so any other trips out come to light then he will have to tell boris another BS story and boris will have to nod and say yes Dom.. " The press conference was held up so the lawyers could go over his statement again. The whole thing read like a witness statement. | |||
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" Back to Cummins though....of course he was just filling in the pointers that he knew were in the public domain. The bit about the wife taking the kid to hospital when he was "unwell" being one of them. I'm surprised they are not digging to find where he was then,as it feels a cover story to me. if his wife could drive the child to hospital when he was ill, why did she not drive them back to London if his eyesight was dodgy. There would have been no need to drive a beauty spot at Barnard Castle on his wife's birthday to "test his eye sight". Absolute Total cock and bull story, not a word of truth in it. According to his wife Writing in the spectator about the lock down , she said he got ill on the 28th and was for ten days laying "doggo in bed with a high fever and spasms that made the muscles lump and twitch in his legs " I am not sure how he would be well enough to drive on the 2nd April as she said he was so ill in bed , which one is lying? Him or her? I bet she gets thrown under the bus I suppose it would be easy for the police to check if he was actually at the hospital picking up his wife and kid but it did look like he was making sure him driving off somewhere was being covered by him , I really hope he isn't using a sick kid to cover up a story. Sadly because of the contradictions in the story you wouldn't know which part is true As she said she became ill the day before him, wouldn't she have still been in isolation? Would the hospital have let her in the Hospital with symptoms? Now before anyone shouts yes but you would want to go to Hospital with your child, yes, we all would, but the whole point of them going to Durham was to get childcare if the worse happens. If both of you are in isolation because of Covid then this was the time to use the childcare ( the 17 year old niece )they say they drove 260 miles to get So many holes in this story that it is like a colander. My point on that was he seemed quick to point out why he wasn't at the hospital. It didn't seem it needed a explanation unless he was trying to cover for being somewhere else." | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown. Precisely True that most of us would do anything to protect our kids. Which in Cummings case, the way to protect his kid, would be to pick up the phone and make a call. He could have had all the assistance he needed at his home within minutes. He is not a single parent working 50 hours a week on minimum wage. He is a man with more resources than most people in this country can dream of. Instead he deliberately endangered the life of his child by making multiple unnecessary and unjustifiable long journeys, several of which he has openly admitted he made while unsure whether he was well enough to drive. I think that if most ordinary people did this they would be charged with reckless endangerment, and social services would start investigating." Exactly, that man has plenty of resources, he could have found ways to find pay for help in London or get the nieces to London instead... but no, he drove Ill to isolate 300 miles away from London They really think everyone buys the BS coming out his mouth and that we are stupid Urgh I feel sorry for all those who lost someone and couldn’t be there for them | |||
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3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead. | |||
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"4 facts: 1,they failed to get him to resign, 2,they failed to get Boris to fire him, 3, they didn't get their apology, 4,Ed Davey is irrelevant.
3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead. "Front pages, TV and radio news full of it today, junior minister resignation, Bojo personal rating drops 20 points.. This is very far from dead | |||
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"4 facts: 1,they failed to get him to resign, 2,they failed to get Boris to fire him, 3, they didn't get their apology, 4,Ed Davey is irrelevant.
3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead. "Trouble is, it isn't. The political damage from this will continue for Boris until Cummings erm.. goes! People are really angry about this. | |||
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"My mate put it best last night... The barnard castle story reminds me of the bloke in a&e trying to explain how a Light bulb just happened to get stuck in his arse .... He had to hit all the main points In the story because of the Durham police investigation.... The question now is... was it plausible enough that Durham police don’t charge him? If yes... then he gets away with it! If no... then Johnson will have to sack him! So.... test drive..... or jolly for his wife’s birthday The press conference was in all likelihood put back to try and ensure they knew what it was they had to have a story for.. That he's basically said he test drove for a 60 mile round trip as he wasn't sure he was safe to but with his wife and child in the car raises issues that the police will look at.. If in doing so any other trips out come to light then he will have to tell boris another BS story and boris will have to nod and say yes Dom.. The press conference was held up so the lawyers could go over his statement again. The whole thing read like a witness statement." He made up the bit about the blog last year on pandemics, R4 looked at it and it was in April this year.. Tbh I missed that part so don't even know why it was claimed by him but when something is so easily found to be wrong it begs further questions.. | |||
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"4 facts: 1,they failed to get him to resign, 2,they failed to get Boris to fire him, 3, they didn't get their apology, 4,Ed Davey is irrelevant.
3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead.
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"It’s not the first time a well connected rich person has bent the rules and it won’t be the last. I’m not really sure why people are so shocked by it. They most probably are going to weather it out I’d be surprised if he resigns." By having this sort of attitude is a reason why they keep getting away with it.. because of people who don’t care and say well it is what it is | |||
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"4 facts: 1,they failed to get him to resign, 2,they failed to get Boris to fire him, 3, they didn't get their apology, 4,Ed Davey is irrelevant.
3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead. "The story is far from dead, much as you might want it to be it's going to run and run, a government minister has resigned over it today. | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown." Absolutely this....... | |||
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"He made up the bit about the blog last year on pandemics, R4 looked at it and it was in April this year.. Tbh I missed that part so don't even know why it was claimed by him but when something is so easily found to be wrong it begs further questions.. " Because he can't help himself, he just has to show everyone how clever he is. | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown. Absolutely this......." Sooo.. You'd drive to the ends of the earth for your child.. Would you drive 60 miles with your child to see if you were blind or not? | |||
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"4 facts: 1,they failed to get him to resign, 2,they failed to get Boris to fire him, 3, they didn't get their apology, 4,Ed Davey is irrelevant.
3 nill. Nice try. Move on. The story is dead.
Trouble is, it isn't. The political damage from this will continue for Boris until Cummings erm.. goes! People are really angry about this.
And rightfully so! This is not on and won’t be the end just because some people accept that stupid explanation "Only the brainwashed and members of the Boris & Dom cult believe the explanation. I hope he stays and continues to weaken Boris and his government | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown. Absolutely this....... Sooo.. You'd drive to the ends of the earth for your child.. Would you drive 60 miles with your child to see if you were blind or not? " So now he was blind? | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown. Absolutely this....... Sooo.. You'd drive to the ends of the earth for your child.. Would you drive 60 miles with your child to see if you were blind or not? So now he was blind? "Do you believe his eye test drive story?? | |||
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"Can everyone agree he shouldn't lose his job and that it's over and done now. All our kids are up and away now . But if one was still young and we thought we were both going to fall Ill. We would drive to the end of the earth to make sure our child was safe. Never mind 250 mile. Lockdown or no lockdown. Absolutely this....... Sooo.. You'd drive to the ends of the earth for your child.. Would you drive 60 miles with your child to see if you were blind or not? So now he was blind? "Eyesight impaired...but the best part is he think all the british electorate are thick. Only a few are it seems by the YouGov polls | |||
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