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"And point out to them that we never got above 50% of the ICU beds occupied and currently only 12% are being used at the moment."
That makes it ok then.
It makes the fact that several NHS staff died due to this virus, but it wasn't all bad as not all ICU beds were full. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nust hope they dont secretly inject you or worse"
You not much of a "fun" guy are you....
The number of ICU/ITU beds used is sort of irrelevant...the ONS has confirmed in all its stats..there has been more deaths in this period...full stop...
No go back under your bridge ..where Trolls belong.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My best friend is currently recovering from covid. Nurse on a full covid (not icu) ward. And the reason we thankfully do not have full icu wards is thanks to lockdown. To protect not just the nhs from being overwhelmed but to ensure that lives if need be can actually be saved. The other option was a lottery on how much a person contributes to society. Fact! |
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And stats show more black/Asia people under sixty have died, because they are more vulnerable. Only 5,000 so far have died in India out of a population of over a billion people. Stats are failing there? |
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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago
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"My best friend is currently recovering from covid. Nurse on a full covid (not icu) ward. And the reason we thankfully do not have full icu wards is thanks to lockdown. To protect not just the nhs from being overwhelmed but to ensure that lives if need be can actually be saved. The other option was a lottery on how much a person contributes to society. Fact!"
That !!
Medical secretary here. Any one who's foolish enough to blow off COVID19 has a serious failing in the capacity to think independently. Please think independently and not just follow what you wish to be true or what sounds "cool" (i.e., the American Trump bandwagon). WE have less than full ICUs because of the lockdown. The virus was and still is lethal - not to everyone but 1-1.5% is the general figure. That means 1 in 100 grandmothers and grandfathers or parents (keep the young ones who also get sick but in far fewer numbers aside). The UK has a huge elderly population. Also minorities (BAME) seem to be disproportionately affected.
Keeping aside those who are mouthing someone else's talking points, the only people who truly and independently think we should "get on with it" and let the virus spread everywhere are those who regard our elders as "expendable" or those who are racist enough to hope the virus will get the non-whites and somehow "bleach" the UK. |
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"And stats show more black/Asia people under sixty have died, because they are more vulnerable. Only 5,000 so far have died in India out of a population of over a billion people. Stats are failing there?"
So that stats are incorrect? Made up? Why?  |
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"And stats show more black/Asia people under sixty have died, because they are more vulnerable. Only 5,000 so far have died in India out of a population of over a billion people. Stats are failing there?
So that stats are incorrect? Made up? Why? "
Don't be a "Trump". Stats for infection rates and deaths and recovery are wholely dependant on the accurate and truthful recording of figures .
If you want to understand how horrible this virus is...take the time to speak with NHS staff working it...yes they are used to working with contagious illnesses and viruses...take the time to actually listen to them and their experiences..
Without a doubt those working with this are seeing more patients die... seeing them die faster.... seeing people die without any underlying health issues (not unknown...but simply people who should live..that don't)
Spend some time supporting them and their mental health..then you can pass comments as you wish and imply its not that bad...
But if you ain't don't that..in my opinion you can just f*CK off.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Nust hope they dont secretly inject you or worse
Weird post.
Are you saying that Covid-19 doesn't exist?"
You grasp of language isnt your strong point is it |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"And point out to them that we never got above 50% of the ICU beds occupied and currently only 12% are being used at the moment.
That makes it ok then.
It makes the fact that several NHS staff died due to this virus, but it wasn't all bad as not all ICU beds were full."
BECAUSE lockdown HAS reduced the spread Thinking not your strong point is it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Lost the plot you "
I do believe and this is just my own personal view that’s it’s hard to lose something that you never had but I agree with you wholeheartedly!!!!
Stay frosty out there!!!!!!
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And stats show more black/Asia people under sixty have died, because they are more vulnerable. Only 5,000 so far have died in India out of a population of over a billion people. Stats are failing there?
So that stats are incorrect? Made up? Why?
Don't be a "Trump". Stats for infection rates and deaths and recovery are wholely dependant on the accurate and truthful recording of figures .
If you want to understand how horrible this virus is...take the time to speak with NHS staff working it...yes they are used to working with contagious illnesses and viruses...take the time to actually listen to them and their experiences..
Without a doubt those working with this are seeing more patients die... seeing them die faster.... seeing people die without any underlying health issues (not unknown...but simply people who should live..that don't)
Spend some time supporting them and their mental health..then you can pass comments as you wish and imply its not that bad...
But if you ain't don't that..in my opinion you can just f*CK off.."
You need to learn how to read? I was asking someone else why they thought the stats were ‘made up’ . You have made yourself look a bit silly  |
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"Nust hope they dont secretly inject you or worse"
Look at someone fighting to breathe or on a vent.
I do understand that when the sun shines and the birds sing louder as little background noise from cars or planes, it's easy to be led into a false sense of security, I wish it was gone for good, a vaccine approved, a tablet to cure it, but there ain't.
If this virus floated in the air over long distances, was coloured purple and could be seen adhered to tables, chairs, doorhandles and millions of other places maybe some people would take a different view.
But nothing stranger than folk....as the saying goes.
Take care everyone. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Nust hope they dont secretly inject you or worse
Weird post.
Are you saying that Covid-19 doesn't exist?
You grasp of language isnt your strong point is it"
Nice fighty response, but what the hell are you talking about?
You think that:
"Tell a nurse or a doc that the virus isn't real. Nust hope they don't secretly inject you"
is good use of language?
I am trying to guess what your word salad means.
Are you saying that some people do not believe that the virus is real and this makes medical staff angry enough to inject you virus as that is the personality type attracted to medicine? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It is real but it will mostly be affected by those woth underlying conditions and defeciencys such as vitamin d, did you know that 20 to 50% of the cases have diabetes? I would say that it rather is a metabolic pandemic. |
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"It is real but it will mostly be affected by those woth underlying conditions and defeciencys such as vitamin d, did you know that 20 to 50% of the cases have diabetes? I would say that it rather is a metabolic pandemic."
Predominantly anyone with an auto immune disease is in the shielding category. RA, Addison, IBS, MS to name a few. Type 1 is, type 2 unsure if that’s metabolic or auto immune. |
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"It is real but it will mostly be affected by those woth underlying conditions and defeciencys such as vitamin d, did you know that 20 to 50% of the cases have diabetes? I would say that it rather is a metabolic pandemic.
Predominantly anyone with an auto immune disease is in the shielding category. RA, Addison, IBS, MS to name a few. Type 1 is, type 2 unsure if that’s metabolic or auto immune. "
IBS ?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It seems some people would only be convinced and, dare I say happy  , if the ICU wards were full, hospitals turning folk away and people literally dying in the street.
"Yipee! You were right....it is pretty serious!"  |
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" And the reason we thankfully do not have full icu wards is thanks to lockdown. "
There is no evidence for that association at all. Virtually all the non lockdown countries have done better than the UK. Recent ONS figures show clearly that lockdown is now killing thousands in collateral damage.(Because people are not getting normal investigations and treatments).
Add to that deaths from the oncoming recession and the cure will cause substantially more deaths than the disease. All the science is clear that CV19 has a fatality rate similar to flu. |
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"All the science is clear that CV19 has a fatality rate similar to flu."
Simply not true. Covid is acccepted to be a least 3 times deadlier than flu. We also have vaccines for flu. There at least twice the number of covid deaths in the us than flu deaths in any recent year. There will be a 2nd wave for certain how bad it will be no one knows. The death rate may be lower as the virus has already killed a lot of the most susceptible people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I get shocked by this type post, I made a post at weekend which vanished but not before I had people inbox me abuse that I get frustrated at people saying it’s fake and doing meets when there is a deadly virus and in lockdown.
For people who say not real tell that to the people who I had to watch take last breaths. This virus affects anyone and does not care about age, gender or other medical things yes it does impact easier on people with health issues but it does impact health people also. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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" And the reason we thankfully do not have full icu wards is thanks to lockdown.
There is no evidence for that association at all. Virtually all the non lockdown countries have done better than the UK. Recent ONS figures show clearly that lockdown is now killing thousands in collateral damage.(Because people are not getting normal investigations and treatments).
Add to that deaths from the oncoming recession and the cure will cause substantially more deaths than the disease. All the science is clear that CV19 has a fatality rate similar to flu."
Sometimes it feels like people willfully misread data or only look at what they want to.
The countries that did not lockdown and have not have high mortality rates are the ones that follows WHO guidance.
Test, track and trace from day 1.
Of course there will be additional damage due to reduced hospital treatment but not as bad as if the hospital's were overwhelmed in an infection and admission spike. It would also of hit even more of our NHS staff.
We were woefully under-equipped even with the delay that lockdown brought us.
None of the data indicates that Covid-19 has mortality equivalent to flu. It is three times as deadly and spreads far more quickly.
What internet cul-de-sac are you getting your information from? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And point out to them that we never got above 50% of the ICU beds occupied and currently only 12% are being used at the moment."
Have you included the Nightingale Beds in these figures ?
I think you have havent you .
Tut tut tut |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" And the reason we thankfully do not have full icu wards is thanks to lockdown.
There is no evidence for that association at all. Virtually all the non lockdown countries have done better than the UK. Recent ONS figures show clearly that lockdown is now killing thousands in collateral damage.(Because people are not getting normal investigations and treatments).
Add to that deaths from the oncoming recession and the cure will cause substantially more deaths than the disease. All the science is clear that CV19 has a fatality rate similar to flu."
Laughable, When you say similar, what figures do you mean? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is real but it will mostly be affected by those woth underlying conditions and defeciencys such as vitamin d, did you know that 20 to 50% of the cases have diabetes? I would say that it rather is a metabolic pandemic.
Predominantly anyone with an auto immune disease is in the shielding category. RA, Addison, IBS, MS to name a few. Type 1 is, type 2 unsure if that’s metabolic or auto immune.
IBS ? "
Sorry IBD |
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"It is real but it will mostly be affected by those woth underlying conditions and defeciencys such as vitamin d, did you know that 20 to 50% of the cases have diabetes? I would say that it rather is a metabolic pandemic.
Predominantly anyone with an auto immune disease is in the shielding category. RA, Addison, IBS, MS to name a few. Type 1 is, type 2 unsure if that’s metabolic or auto immune. "
You state people with Type 1 diabetes are in the shielding category.
Can you let me know where you obtained this information as my daughter has type 1 and is still working front line NHS.
If there is written evidence to support your claim we would love to show her as obviously we are extremely worried.
Thanks. |
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"It is real but it will mostly be affected by those woth underlying conditions and defeciencys such as vitamin d, did you know that 20 to 50% of the cases have diabetes? I would say that it rather is a metabolic pandemic.
Predominantly anyone with an auto immune disease is in the shielding category. RA, Addison, IBS, MS to name a few. Type 1 is, type 2 unsure if that’s metabolic or auto immune.
You state people with Type 1 diabetes are in the shielding category.
Can you let me know where you obtained this information as my daughter has type 1 and is still working front line NHS.
If there is written evidence to support your claim we would love to show her as obviously we are extremely worried.
Thanks."
Ring your GP and ask for her status reviewing. |
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"It is real but it will mostly be affected by those woth underlying conditions and defeciencys such as vitamin d, did you know that 20 to 50% of the cases have diabetes? I would say that it rather is a metabolic pandemic.
Predominantly anyone with an auto immune disease is in the shielding category. RA, Addison, IBS, MS to name a few. Type 1 is, type 2 unsure if that’s metabolic or auto immune.
You state people with Type 1 diabetes are in the shielding category.
Can you let me know where you obtained this information as my daughter has type 1 and is still working front line NHS.
If there is written evidence to support your claim we would love to show her as obviously we are extremely worried.
Thanks.
Ring your GP and ask for her status reviewing. "
Thanks |
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" And the reason we thankfully do not have full icu wards is thanks to lockdown.
There is no evidence for that association at all. Virtually all the non lockdown countries have done better than the UK. Recent ONS figures show clearly that lockdown is now killing thousands in collateral damage.(Because people are not getting normal investigations and treatments).
Add to that deaths from the oncoming recession and the cure will cause substantially more deaths than the disease. All the science is clear that CV19 has a fatality rate similar to flu."
Like Sweden you mean! A country twice the size of the UK with a population of just 10 million who should have been able to keep infection rates as low as New Zealand but now have the highest death rate per head of population in the world. |
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" And the reason we thankfully do not have full icu wards is thanks to lockdown.
There is no evidence for that association at all. Virtually all the non lockdown countries have done better than the UK. Recent ONS figures show clearly that lockdown is now killing thousands in collateral damage.(Because people are not getting normal investigations and treatments).
Add to that deaths from the oncoming recession and the cure will cause substantially more deaths than the disease. All the science is clear that CV19 has a fatality rate similar to flu."
Can you report posts on fabs for outright lying? |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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" And the reason we thankfully do not have full icu wards is thanks to lockdown.
There is no evidence for that association at all. Virtually all the non lockdown countries have done better than the UK. Recent ONS figures show clearly that lockdown is now killing thousands in collateral damage.(Because people are not getting normal investigations and treatments).
Add to that deaths from the oncoming recession and the cure will cause substantially more deaths than the disease. All the science is clear that CV19 has a fatality rate similar to flu.
Can you report posts on fabs for outright lying? "
Only for linking to a non-approved website, which means that he cannot share his "data" |
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