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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. " I agree  | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. " You do realise you’ll be shot by the Fab politicians for talking sense  | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle...... "Its over - done and dusted and the t-shirt is on its way to you. 
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle...... "And the evidence is where? | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle...... "Do you have the Twitter handle please, asked on the other thread but it's closed now | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. " It like to know the percentage of people calling for his head who are Red as opposed to Blue. | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. " | |||
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"The keyboard warriors wont think so. "I think they are here *insert slow creepy music and heavy breathing* | |||
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"The keyboard warriors wont think so. "I can see torches & pitchforks in the far distance | |||
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"I'm assuming Boris knows the complete chronology of the visits and still chose to back him." Cummings told him to back him...and do it asap publicly is my guess... | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. " yes I agree. And it's been stated in many media places that the police have spoken to both him and his father... and there were no rules broken. In the other cases they were. I think this is a massive witch hunt. And actually Boris has surprised me by standing his ground over it. When the witch hunt is demanding blood. I was watching a film earlier and in it a woman was apparently seen consorting with the devil...and as she was seen she was sentenced to the ducking stool.. If she drowned she was innocent.. if she survived she was guilty and would be killed. This reminds me of many peoples attitudes right now x | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle......
And the evidence is where?"According to the news - 'Someone who thought they looked like Mr Cummings' No Photos. jst 'Thought they looked like him.#'. | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle...... "You hoping _abio? bet your loving this the man who put the final nail in the remain coffin on the rack.As i said before i dont believe every tom,dick and harry who post on twitter and faceache i would much prefer to rely on facts. | |||
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"Is this fab ? " You think this is bad head lower to the politics section. It’s full of cognitive dissonance these days but used to be fun. | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle......
And the evidence is where?
According to the news - 'Someone who thought they looked like Mr Cummings' No Photos. jst 'Thought they looked like him.#'."Is that the sound of a barrel being scraped? Burn him with fire!!!!!! | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle......
And the evidence is where?
According to the news - 'Someone who thought they looked like Mr Cummings' No Photos. jst 'Thought they looked like him.#'."Precisely. | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. It like to know the percentage of people calling for his head who are Red as opposed to Blue." I think its more like remain or leave rather than red or blue. | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle......
And the evidence is where?"i am going to have a guess at cctv combined with anpr.... licence plates don't lie...  | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. yes I agree. And it's been stated in many media places that the police have spoken to both him and his father... and there were no rules broken. In the other cases they were. I think this is a massive witch hunt. And actually Boris has surprised me by standing his ground over it. When the witch hunt is demanding blood. I was watching a film earlier and in it a woman was apparently seen consorting with the devil...and as she was seen she was sentenced to the ducking stool.. If she drowned she was innocent.. if she survived she was guilty and would be killed. This reminds me of many peoples attitudes right now x " This. ^^ | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle......
And the evidence is where?
i am going to have a guess at cctv combined with anpr.... licence plates don't lie... "You know what happens when you predict and guess now Fabio.
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"There was a boy who died of the virus. His parents followed the rules and didnt go to his funeral Clearly, they were mugs and fools. But I am with the you. Rules are for fools. Follow Boris and Dom - tell everyone else to follow the rules (parents of dead children, the poor) and then do what you want. More fool them ! You’re welcome..." Why wasn’t they allowed to the funeral? That’s seems a little unfair as they let 8 people go. | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle......
And the evidence is where?
According to the news - 'Someone who thought they looked like Mr Cummings' No Photos. jst 'Thought they looked like him.#'.
Is that the sound of a barrel being scraped?
Burn him with fire!!!!!! "Turning into Monty python theme | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. " Exactly this The general public seem to have accepted that schools have been open for key workers But schools are only open 9-3 Have they been open 24/7 to accommodate nurses children? Of course they havent!! So what have key workers been doing with their children over the last few months? Those that have had help from extended family. Should they be sacked too? | |||
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"There was a boy who died of the virus. His parents followed the rules and didnt go to his funeral Clearly, they were mugs and fools. But I am with the you. Rules are for fools. Follow Boris and Dom - tell everyone else to follow the rules (parents of dead children, the poor) and then do what you want. More fool them ! You’re welcome... Why wasn’t they allowed to the funeral? That’s seems a little unfair as they let 8 people go. " That depends on the local authority some let more than 8 some less. | |||
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"There was a boy who died of the virus. His parents followed the rules and didnt go to his funeral Clearly, they were mugs and fools. But I am with the you. Rules are for fools. Follow Boris and Dom - tell everyone else to follow the rules (parents of dead children, the poor) and then do what you want. More fool them ! You’re welcome..." if its the case I'm thinking of they had symptoms themselves.. that's why they didnt go. | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. It like to know the percentage of people calling for his head who are Red as opposed to Blue.I think its more like remain or leave rather than red or blue." I'm leave, so does that mean I should support the flouting of the rules by DC? | |||
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"There was a boy who died of the virus. His parents followed the rules and didnt go to his funeral Clearly, they were mugs and fools. But I am with the you. Rules are for fools. Follow Boris and Dom - tell everyone else to follow the rules (parents of dead children, the poor) and then do what you want. More fool them ! You’re welcome... Why wasn’t they allowed to the funeral? That’s seems a little unfair as they let 8 people go. That depends on the local authority some let more than 8 some less." Are they really so cruel as to not let anyone at all? | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision "It wasn't forbidden.  | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle......
And the evidence is where?
i am going to have a guess at cctv combined with anpr.... licence plates don't lie... "To me the subsequent trips are irrelevant, but proof will shut up some of the posters here. | |||
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"The thing is that the PM & Govt have brought this anger on themselves. If Mr Cummings had an ounce of humility he could have given an address yesterday saying he apologised for not following the Govt's own rules and that he could understand people's anger, but given his reasons why he took his actions however misguided. But by taking the approach of "I Don't care how it looks" and "I have done nothing wrong" , then the whole cabinet and PM basically rewriting lockdown rules to apply to Mr Cummings it has become farcical. The Govt, Mr Cummings & PM have lost massive credibility over this which could have been avoided by a bit of humilty which sadly they are lacking." Mr Cummings and humility do not go hand in hand. See the 350 million NHS claim he made around Brexit time. | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. It like to know the percentage of people calling for his head who are Red as opposed to Blue.I think its more like remain or leave rather than red or blue. I'm leave, so does that mean I should support the flouting of the rules by DC? " Me too but have yet to see any evidence that he has broken any rules,if it turns out that he made a 2nd and 3rd visit then yes sack him but at the moment it is pure speculation and as far as i am aware you are still innocent in this country until proven guilty. | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle......
And the evidence is where?
i am going to have a guess at cctv combined with anpr.... licence plates don't lie...
To me the subsequent trips are irrelevant, but proof will shut up some of the posters here. "I think most people have said that if there's proof of those other trips then he should resign. Nobody has defended those. | |||
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"okay... i'll put up dan hodges who is political editor at the mail..... and remember this is suppose to be the defence.... dan has been defending cummings on twitter! "So I'm told this is what happened. Cummings goes to the parents to isolate. Very ill. Recovers. Does 14 days. Does his daily exercise. Includes trip to Barnard Castle. Returns to London. No two trips." " IF that is true.... the distance between cumming's home in Durham and Bernard Castle is still the best part of 35 miles ish!..... at the height of the stay at home order! | |||
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"okay... i'll put up dan hodges who is political editor at the mail..... and remember this is suppose to be the defence.... dan has been defending cummings on twitter! "So I'm told this is what happened. Cummings goes to the parents to isolate. Very ill. Recovers. Does 14 days. Does his daily exercise. Includes trip to Barnard Castle. Returns to London. No two trips." IF that is true.... the distance between cumming's home in Durham and Bernard Castle is still the best part of 35 miles ish!..... at the height of the stay at home order!" So because you can't get him on the original allegations you're going to pick apart everything he does? Wouldn't that have been BEFORE they said you have to stay local for exercise? | |||
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"okay... i'll put up dan hodges who is political editor at the mail..... and remember this is suppose to be the defence.... dan has been defending cummings on twitter! "So I'm told this is what happened. Cummings goes to the parents to isolate. Very ill. Recovers. Does 14 days. Does his daily exercise. Includes trip to Barnard Castle. Returns to London. No two trips." IF that is true.... the distance between cumming's home in Durham and Bernard Castle is still the best part of 35 miles ish!..... at the height of the stay at home order!" So now its down to travelling to far from home to exercise??????????? | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
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"If there is no actual evidence... would people still be happy to be throwing this at him..... and let's face it there are cameras everywhere if they really want to check... If it's really just the 1st incidence that was within the allowed exceptions... then I think we need to concentrate Although its distracting from the fact that we are suffering that low a level of infections now that the vaccine may not be viable " Indeed with the amount of cameras about it should be easy to prove it beyond all doubt. Personally I would want to see this evidence before passing sentence. Not sure how many on here would be happy being sacked without any evidence of wrong doing. In a way the journalist's outside his house helped as they filmed themselves breaking the rules lol | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not
There was a clause about certain issues that might require leaving home, childcare was one of those issues. "Of which no childcare was sought as he was in a seperate house. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not
There was a clause about certain issues that might require leaving home, childcare was one of those issues.
Of which no childcare was sought as he was in a seperate house. "Because they didn't become unable to take care of him which is what they were concerned about. Tell me, if you thought you were going to become too unwell to take care of your child, wouldn't you want to be close enough to someone who could? | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. Exactly this The general public seem to have accepted that schools have been open for key workers But schools are only open 9-3 Have they been open 24/7 to accommodate nurses children? Of course they havent!! So what have key workers been doing with their children over the last few months? Those that have had help from extended family. Should they be sacked too?" My children have stayed home on their own in the care of the eldest who is 14 for the past 2 months whilst I've gone to work in a care home. Government orders were not to move between households, there was no exception made for childcare, even though my parents are both under 60 and live in the same village. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not
There was a clause about certain issues that might require leaving home, childcare was one of those issues. "Do you have a link to the childcare cause please?? | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not"there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions.. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not
There was a clause about certain issues that might require leaving home, childcare was one of those issues.
Of which no childcare was sought as he was in a seperate house.
Because they didn't become unable to take care of him which is what they were concerned about.
Tell me, if you thought you were going to become too unwell to take care of your child, wouldn't you want to be close enough to someone who could?"Everybody in the whole bloody country who was ill wanted to, but couldn't! | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. It like to know the percentage of people calling for his head who are Red as opposed to Blue.I think its more like remain or leave rather than red or blue. I'm leave, so does that mean I should support the flouting of the rules by DC? Me too but have yet to see any evidence that he has broken any rules,if it turns out that he made a 2nd and 3rd visit then yes sack him but at the moment it is pure speculation and as far as i am aware you are still innocent in this country until proven guilty. " Being in the public eye, you have to be beyond reproach. He flouted the rules. Rules that were never highlighted in the public briefings. When the Scottish medical officer was "found guilty" here, I stated how she and her family could have gone from one home to another without risking anyone else (and they weren't in isolation). I understood why her resignation was imperative though. I see the same here. This travel was made with at least one person infected. I believe DC should suffer the same consequences. | |||
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"okay... i'll put up dan hodges who is political editor at the mail..... and remember this is suppose to be the defence.... dan has been defending cummings on twitter! "So I'm told this is what happened. Cummings goes to the parents to isolate. Very ill. Recovers. Does 14 days. Does his daily exercise. Includes trip to Barnard Castle. Returns to London. No two trips." IF that is true.... the distance between cumming's home in Durham and Bernard Castle is still the best part of 35 miles ish!..... at the height of the stay at home order!So now its down to travelling to far from home to exercise???????????" Yeah, 260 miles to exercise  | |||
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"Mate of a mate of mate whose postman text them just saw DC drive screaming past them in his Range up the A1 blasting out Lynnrd Skynard Freebird. What a bastard. " | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions.."Was there an official exemption for mixing households for childcare as I don't recall one | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions.."Us we took our 13 year old granddaughter in to protect her 6 month old and 2 year old sisters from contracting it. | |||
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"Think everyone is missing the point... he is a wanker, sounds like one, acts like one. He is one arrogant prick. Tag line. Comeuppance required. " That is not the point whatsoever. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions.."But it was drilled into people they musnt see elderly relatives let alone leave them with children . Must not leave their house if symptomatic At All. If these clauses were there then they didnt let anyone else know about them. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
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We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions.."The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70. | |||
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"He broke the rules. It's likely that he was infected by his wife when they were in the car. Seems pretty stupid to me. Very disrespectful to the public that have suffered big time losing family members. The single parents that have had to not see their children. You can't justify this Plenty have broken the rules had fines. Government workers have resigned due to breaking the rules. " Single parents are allowed to see their children. | |||
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"okay... i'll put up dan hodges who is political editor at the mail..... and remember this is suppose to be the defence.... dan has been defending cummings on twitter! "So I'm told this is what happened. Cummings goes to the parents to isolate. Very ill. Recovers. Does 14 days. Does his daily exercise. Includes trip to Barnard Castle. Returns to London. No two trips." IF that is true.... the distance between cumming's home in Durham and Bernard Castle is still the best part of 35 miles ish!..... at the height of the stay at home order! So because you can't get him on the original allegations you're going to pick apart everything he does? Wouldn't that have been BEFORE they said you have to stay local for exercise? " It's bizarre the things people will say in order to not lose face. It's all part of the same thing, the newspapers held back on the second revelation because they wanted the government to bite, and the government did not disappoint. Then they came out with the second part because guess what, it keeps the story going and that's what they want because that's their job. Cummings drove to Durham with his wife and child while apparently on the verge of being incapacitated, he did so coincidentally at the time of his mother's birthday when there were other family members around. The Police spoke to his father and him about it, that is a matter of record, yet the government denied that happened at all. He then took a 70 mile round trip to Barnard Castle for a walk, despite the rules saying you don't travel anywhere to exercise. Then after going back to work in London it is alleged he made a second trip up to Durham a few days later, and possibly even a third. Yet his wife wrote an article in The Spectator about how they bravely toughed it out in London and looked after their child despite being ill. That's an odd one isn't it, why would she do that? I suppose it's heartening for Johnson and Cummings and their ilk that there are so many people ready to tug their forelocks and do their betters bidding. If Boris turned up at your house and shit on your dinner you'd probably thank him for it and tell everyone he had to shit somewhere so you are honoured it was on your dinner plate. It's a good job we didn't have to rely on people like you during the war. | |||
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"Mate of a mate of mate whose postman text them just saw DC drive screaming past them in his Range up the A1 blasting out Lynnrd Skynard Freebird. What a bastard.
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not
There was a clause about certain issues that might require leaving home, childcare was one of those issues.
Do you have a link to the childcare cause please??"The day after lockdown began, 24 March, the deputy chief medical officer for England, Dr Jenny Harries, clarified who could look after a child if both parents or carers were incapacitated. She said: "Clearly if you have adults who are unable to look after a small child, that is an exceptional circumstance. "And if the individuals do not have access to care support - formal care support - or to family, they will be able to work through their local authority hubs." | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
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"He broke the rules. It's likely that he was infected by his wife when they were in the car. Seems pretty stupid to me. Very disrespectful to the public that have suffered big time losing family members. The single parents that have had to not see their children. You can't justify this Plenty have broken the rules had fines. Government workers have resigned due to breaking the rules. " Every one of those paparazzi who mobbed the bloke around his car deserves a fine for sure....... | |||
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" It's bizarre the things people will say in order to not lose face. It's all part of the same thing, the newspapers held back on the second revelation because they wanted the government to bite, and the government did not disappoint. Then they came out with the second part because guess what, it keeps the story going and that's what they want because that's their job. Cummings drove to Durham with his wife and child while apparently on the verge of being incapacitated, he did so coincidentally at the time of his mother's birthday when there were other family members around. The Police spoke to his father and him about it, that is a matter of record, yet the government denied that happened at all. He then took a 70 mile round trip to Barnard Castle for a walk, despite the rules saying you don't travel anywhere to exercise. Then after going back to work in London it is alleged he made a second trip up to Durham a few days later, and possibly even a third. Yet his wife wrote an article in The Spectator about how they bravely toughed it out in London and looked after their child despite being ill. That's an odd one isn't it, why would she do that? I suppose it's heartening for Johnson and Cummings and their ilk that there are so many people ready to tug their forelocks and do their betters bidding. If Boris turned up at your house and shit on your dinner you'd probably thank him for it and tell everyone he had to shit somewhere so you are honoured it was on your dinner plate. It's a good job we didn't have to rely on people like you during the war." agree with everything (except that last sentence... that was harsh dude!!) but yeah... people are twisting in the wind because the parenting excuse in "visit 1" doesn't excuse the rest | |||
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"okay... i'll put up dan hodges who is political editor at the mail..... and remember this is suppose to be the defence.... dan has been defending cummings on twitter! "So I'm told this is what happened. Cummings goes to the parents to isolate. Very ill. Recovers. Does 14 days. Does his daily exercise. Includes trip to Barnard Castle. Returns to London. No two trips." IF that is true.... the distance between cumming's home in Durham and Bernard Castle is still the best part of 35 miles ish!..... at the height of the stay at home order! So because you can't get him on the original allegations you're going to pick apart everything he does? Wouldn't that have been BEFORE they said you have to stay local for exercise? It's bizarre the things people will say in order to not lose face. It's all part of the same thing, the newspapers held back on the second revelation because they wanted the government to bite, and the government did not disappoint. Then they came out with the second part because guess what, it keeps the story going and that's what they want because that's their job. Cummings drove to Durham with his wife and child while apparently on the verge of being incapacitated, he did so coincidentally at the time of his mother's birthday when there were other family members around. The Police spoke to his father and him about it, that is a matter of record, yet the government denied that happened at all. He then took a 70 mile round trip to Barnard Castle for a walk, despite the rules saying you don't travel anywhere to exercise. Then after going back to work in London it is alleged he made a second trip up to Durham a few days later, and possibly even a third. Yet his wife wrote an article in The Spectator about how they bravely toughed it out in London and looked after their child despite being ill. That's an odd one isn't it, why would she do that? I suppose it's heartening for Johnson and Cummings and their ilk that there are so many people ready to tug their forelocks and do their betters bidding. If Boris turned up at your house and shit on your dinner you'd probably thank him for it and tell everyone he had to shit somewhere so you are honoured it was on your dinner plate. It's a good job we didn't have to rely on people like you during the war." Ah, the old resort to sly digs because someone won't back down and allow everyone to bully them into having the same opinion. Playground tactics. Carry on. | |||
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"He broke the rules. It's likely that he was infected by his wife when they were in the car. Seems pretty stupid to me. Very disrespectful to the public that have suffered big time losing family members. The single parents that have had to not see their children. You can't justify this Plenty have broken the rules had fines. Government workers have resigned due to breaking the rules. Every one of those paparazzi who mobbed the bloke around his car deserves a fine for sure....... "Yeah but he didn’t half have some cheek pointing it out. | |||
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"Fact is, DC could run around Westminster licking doorknobs and he wouldn’t get disciplined. He is too important to the Government. I’ve never really understood why this is the case, but they aren’t going to let him go. Surprised they didn’t just push him into the background though, to appease the media if nothing else." If the polls turn against them he will be gone | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. Exactly this The general public seem to have accepted that schools have been open for key workers But schools are only open 9-3 Have they been open 24/7 to accommodate nurses children? Of course they havent!! So what have key workers been doing with their children over the last few months? Those that have had help from extended family. Should they be sacked too? My children have stayed home on their own in the care of the eldest who is 14 for the past 2 months whilst I've gone to work in a care home. Government orders were not to move between households, there was no exception made for childcare, even though my parents are both under 60 and live in the same village." What would you have done if your eldest wasnt 14, but 5? | |||
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" It's bizarre the things people will say in order to not lose face. It's all part of the same thing, the newspapers held back on the second revelation because they wanted the government to bite, and the government did not disappoint. Then they came out with the second part because guess what, it keeps the story going and that's what they want because that's their job. Cummings drove to Durham with his wife and child while apparently on the verge of being incapacitated, he did so coincidentally at the time of his mother's birthday when there were other family members around. The Police spoke to his father and him about it, that is a matter of record, yet the government denied that happened at all. He then took a 70 mile round trip to Barnard Castle for a walk, despite the rules saying you don't travel anywhere to exercise. Then after going back to work in London it is alleged he made a second trip up to Durham a few days later, and possibly even a third. Yet his wife wrote an article in The Spectator about how they bravely toughed it out in London and looked after their child despite being ill. That's an odd one isn't it, why would she do that? I suppose it's heartening for Johnson and Cummings and their ilk that there are so many people ready to tug their forelocks and do their betters bidding. If Boris turned up at your house and shit on your dinner you'd probably thank him for it and tell everyone he had to shit somewhere so you are honoured it was on your dinner plate. It's a good job we didn't have to rely on people like you during the war. agree with everything (except that last sentence... that was harsh dude!!) but yeah... people are twisting in the wind because the parenting excuse in "visit 1" doesn't excuse the rest" I've actually said more than once that if it was proven he hadn't been self isolating during those two weeks and had been driving between London and Durham then he should resign. | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. It like to know the percentage of people calling for his head who are Red as opposed to Blue.I think its more like remain or leave rather than red or blue." Don't forget the yellow SNP, little woman has tweeted her opinion, and blackford has given his opinion Cummings must go. Imagine if Boris had tweeted that little woman should get rid of her health supremo!!!! | |||
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"He broke the rules. It's likely that he was infected by his wife when they were in the car. Seems pretty stupid to me. Very disrespectful to the public that have suffered big time losing family members. The single parents that have had to not see their children. You can't justify this Plenty have broken the rules had fines. Government workers have resigned due to breaking the rules. Every one of those paparazzi who mobbed the bloke around his car deserves a fine for sure....... "And that too! Why has no one mentioned the 20 photographers right next to each other? Blocking his path? | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. It like to know the percentage of people calling for his head who are Red as opposed to Blue.I think its more like remain or leave rather than red or blue. Don't forget the yellow SNP, little woman has tweeted her opinion, and blackford has given his opinion Cummings must go. Imagine if Boris had tweeted that little woman should get rid of her health supremo!!!! " The Tories in Scotland actually did | |||
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"He broke the rules. It's likely that he was infected by his wife when they were in the car. Seems pretty stupid to me. Very disrespectful to the public that have suffered big time losing family members. The single parents that have had to not see their children. You can't justify this Plenty have broken the rules had fines. Government workers have resigned due to breaking the rules. Every one of those paparazzi who mobbed the bloke around his car deserves a fine for sure.......
And that too! Why has no one mentioned the 20 photographers right next to each other?
Blocking his path?"Parasites are immune to the virus | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. " agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol" Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
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"He broke the rules. It's likely that he was infected by his wife when they were in the car. Seems pretty stupid to me. Very disrespectful to the public that have suffered big time losing family members. The single parents that have had to not see their children. You can't justify this Plenty have broken the rules had fines. Government workers have resigned due to breaking the rules. Every one of those paparazzi who mobbed the bloke around his car deserves a fine for sure.......
And that too! Why has no one mentioned the 20 photographers right next to each other?
Blocking his path?
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together. "Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family I know seperated parents are an exemption I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age | |||
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"He broke the rules. It's likely that he was infected by his wife when they were in the car. Seems pretty stupid to me. Very disrespectful to the public that have suffered big time losing family members. The single parents that have had to not see their children. You can't justify this Plenty have broken the rules had fines. Government workers have resigned due to breaking the rules. Every one of those paparazzi who mobbed the bloke around his car deserves a fine for sure.......
And that too! Why has no one mentioned the 20 photographers right next to each other?
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. " If there is only one incident then this will probably blow over, if the other incidents are proven then he is fucked and had made all those defending him look stupid | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. Exactly this The general public seem to have accepted that schools have been open for key workers But schools are only open 9-3 Have they been open 24/7 to accommodate nurses children? Of course they havent!! So what have key workers been doing with their children over the last few months? Those that have had help from extended family. Should they be sacked too? My children have stayed home on their own in the care of the eldest who is 14 for the past 2 months whilst I've gone to work in a care home. Government orders were not to move between households, there was no exception made for childcare, even though my parents are both under 60 and live in the same village. What would you have done if your eldest wasnt 14, but 5?" I would have had to take annual leave then unpaid leave from work when that ran out . | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age "Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support. "They really need to make that clear rather than telling everyone they must stay at home and everyone else in the household must also and not leave the house for any purpose etc if they were to develop symtoms | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
Aye behind their keyboards "Of course, if it was Jeremy Corbin or Kier Starmer acting in a similar fashion you'd be just as sterling in your defence..? You'll say yes of course, but, well, that's bullshit isn't it.. | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. If there is only one incident then this will probably blow over, if the other incidents are proven then he is fucked and had made all those defending him look stupid " Most of us defending the childcare incident have said if the other incidents are proven then he should resign. | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
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Of course, if it was Jeremy Corbin or Kier Starmer acting in a similar fashion you'd be just as sterling in your defence..? You'll say yes of course, but, well, that's bullshit isn't it..
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle......
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle...... You hoping _abio? bet your loving this the man who put the final nail in the remain coffin on the rack.As i said before i dont believe every tom,dick and harry who post on twitter and faceache i would much prefer to rely on facts."You rely on facts but you voted Leave? That's some irony right there ... | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. " Bullshit his wife’s brother lives in London and his top aide 2 streets away - it never said primary carers at all so you were breaking lock down using your kids grandparents. You are also manipulating the rules to suit yourself. Cummings parents are also over 70. He also was in Durham sightseeing - where is that in the rules? | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle......
And the evidence is where?
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. If there is only one incident then this will probably blow over, if the other incidents are proven then he is fucked and had made all those defending him look stupid Most of us defending the childcare incident have said if the other incidents are proven then he should resign. " Time will tell then. Whatever happens ,it has weakened the government and made Boris look like a puppet . But most of us knew that anyway | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. If there is only one incident then this will probably blow over, if the other incidents are proven then he is fucked and had made all those defending him look stupid Most of us defending the childcare incident have said if the other incidents are proven then he should resign. " I reckon most would just go quiet rather than condemn him. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support. "No you’re not - said child would be taken into social services was what I was told as a single parent. | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
Aye behind their keyboards
Of course, if it was Jeremy Corbin or Kier Starmer acting in a similar fashion you'd be just as sterling in your defence..? You'll say yes of course, but, well, that's bullshit isn't it..
You mean if they had travelled to protect their children? I certainly would have defended them. "His child wasn't at risk, when they traveled he was not symptomatic, we'll capable of looking after the child. You of course know this, as does BJ, but the doting father is the only rock that there is to cling to. It also makes a mockery of the Thousands of other children who Were put at risk by this shambolic government | |||
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"It seems they both have family and friends in London, could they have helped them with childcare do you think?" Pretty sure he has a PA to do a bit of shopping if required | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
Aye behind their keyboards
Of course, if it was Jeremy Corbin or Kier Starmer acting in a similar fashion you'd be just as sterling in your defence..? You'll say yes of course, but, well, that's bullshit isn't it..
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support.
No you’re not - said child would be taken into social services was what I was told as a single parent. "I'm also a single parent and I was most definitely not threatened with social services. | |||
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"He broke the rules. It's likely that he was infected by his wife when they were in the car. Seems pretty stupid to me. Very disrespectful to the public that have suffered big time losing family members. The single parents that have had to not see their children. You can't justify this Plenty have broken the rules had fines. Government workers have resigned due to breaking the rules. Every one of those paparazzi who mobbed the bloke around his car deserves a fine for sure.......
And that too! Why has no one mentioned the 20 photographers right next to each other?
Blocking his path?
Posters have been slating them. If I'd been DC, I'd have elbowed them. Anyone who received an elbowed could not have been 2m away "All those long range lens pics over the years, of celebs and the Royal family, but these paps couldn’t use a lens from 2m away....... | |||
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"It seems they both have family and friends in London, could they have helped them with childcare do you think?" It looks like Cummings has no friends in London, | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support.
No you’re not - said child would be taken into social services was what I was told as a single parent.
I'm also a single parent and I was most definitely not threatened with social services. "No Threat I enquired as to what happens to my children if I can’t care for them and family are in vulnerable groups - social care would be advised over vulnerable group relatives was the reply. | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
Aye behind their keyboards
Of course, if it was Jeremy Corbin or Kier Starmer acting in a similar fashion you'd be just as sterling in your defence..? You'll say yes of course, but, well, that's bullshit isn't it..
You mean if they had travelled to protect their children? I certainly would have defended them.
His child wasn't at risk, when they traveled he was not symptomatic, we'll capable of looking after the child. You of course know this, as does BJ, but the doting father is the only rock that there is to cling to. It also makes a mockery of the Thousands of other children who Were put at risk by this shambolic government"I think we will have to agree to disagree, I don't think that taking his toddler to an area where he had an extended support network was a crime. If proof is uncovered of the other alleged excursions then I will condemn those other incidents. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support.
No you’re not - said child would be taken into social services was what I was told as a single parent.
I'm also a single parent and I was most definitely not threatened with social services.
No Threat I enquired as to what happens to my children if I can’t care for them and family are in vulnerable groups - social care would be advised over vulnerable group relatives was the reply."Sorry, I think I could have worded my response better, I wasn't trying to say social services were threatening to take your child. Maybe that decision changes between local authorities? | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support.
No you’re not - said child would be taken into social services was what I was told as a single parent.
I'm also a single parent and I was most definitely not threatened with social services.
No Threat I enquired as to what happens to my children if I can’t care for them and family are in vulnerable groups - social care would be advised over vulnerable group relatives was the reply.
Sorry, I think I could have worded my response better, I wasn't trying to say social services were threatening to take your child.
Maybe that decision changes between local authorities? "This was 111 | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
Aye behind their keyboards
Of course, if it was Jeremy Corbin or Kier Starmer acting in a similar fashion you'd be just as sterling in your defence..? You'll say yes of course, but, well, that's bullshit isn't it..
"Didn’t Stephen Kinnock break the lockdown in order to drive 150 miles to deliver ‘essential supplies’ and a birthday card to his father? I don’t recall any fuss over that at the time other than the police saying it wasn’t essential travel. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support.
No you’re not - said child would be taken into social services was what I was told as a single parent.
I'm also a single parent and I was most definitely not threatened with social services.
No Threat I enquired as to what happens to my children if I can’t care for them and family are in vulnerable groups - social care would be advised over vulnerable group relatives was the reply.
Sorry, I think I could have worded my response better, I wasn't trying to say social services were threatening to take your child.
Maybe that decision changes between local authorities?
This was 111"Wow, that's odd. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support.
No you’re not - said child would be taken into social services was what I was told as a single parent.
I'm also a single parent and I was most definitely not threatened with social services.
No Threat I enquired as to what happens to my children if I can’t care for them and family are in vulnerable groups - social care would be advised over vulnerable group relatives was the reply.
Sorry, I think I could have worded my response better, I wasn't trying to say social services were threatening to take your child.
Maybe that decision changes between local authorities?
This was 111
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
Aye behind their keyboards
Of course, if it was Jeremy Corbin or Kier Starmer acting in a similar fashion you'd be just as sterling in your defence..? You'll say yes of course, but, well, that's bullshit isn't it..
You mean if they had travelled to protect their children? I certainly would have defended them.
His child wasn't at risk, when they traveled he was not symptomatic, we'll capable of looking after the child. You of course know this, as does BJ, but the doting father is the only rock that there is to cling to. It also makes a mockery of the Thousands of other children who Were put at risk by this shambolic government
I think we will have to agree to disagree, I don't think that taking his toddler to an area where he had an extended support network was a crime.
If proof is uncovered of the other alleged excursions then I will condemn those other incidents. "BJ was directly asked about this at the breifing, if it was untrue he'd have nailed it, he didn't, he fluffed and skirted around it. It's quite obvious he is aware that it happened, he has not confirmed or denied in the hope that credible evidence does not emerge | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
Aye behind their keyboards
Of course, if it was Jeremy Corbin or Kier Starmer acting in a similar fashion you'd be just as sterling in your defence..? You'll say yes of course, but, well, that's bullshit isn't it..
Didn’t Stephen Kinnock break the lockdown in order to drive 150 miles to deliver ‘essential supplies’ and a birthday card to his father? I don’t recall any fuss over that at the time other than the police saying it wasn’t essential travel."Is Stephen Kinnock part of the government that drafted the rules that he broke? | |||
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
Aye behind their keyboards
Of course, if it was Jeremy Corbin or Kier Starmer acting in a similar fashion you'd be just as sterling in your defence..? You'll say yes of course, but, well, that's bullshit isn't it..
You mean if they had travelled to protect their children? I certainly would have defended them.
His child wasn't at risk, when they traveled he was not symptomatic, we'll capable of looking after the child. You of course know this, as does BJ, but the doting father is the only rock that there is to cling to. It also makes a mockery of the Thousands of other children who Were put at risk by this shambolic government
I think we will have to agree to disagree, I don't think that taking his toddler to an area where he had an extended support network was a crime.
If proof is uncovered of the other alleged excursions then I will condemn those other incidents.
BJ was directly asked about this at the breifing, if it was untrue he'd have nailed it, he didn't, he fluffed and skirted around it. It's quite obvious he is aware that it happened, he has not confirmed or denied in the hope that credible evidence does not emerge"He did answer, he said that DC had travelled to Durham where he had self isolated for at least 14 days. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support.
No you’re not - said child would be taken into social services was what I was told as a single parent.
I'm also a single parent and I was most definitely not threatened with social services.
No Threat I enquired as to what happens to my children if I can’t care for them and family are in vulnerable groups - social care would be advised over vulnerable group relatives was the reply.
Sorry, I think I could have worded my response better, I wasn't trying to say social services were threatening to take your child.
Maybe that decision changes between local authorities?
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Wow, that's odd. :
Very odd that 111 would tell someone that."I called for advice as wAs showing symptoms And was concerned in case they escalated..... if there is no one to care for child they don’t recommend sendIng to vulnerable carers aNd usual Process would follow for emergency care of minors ..... my friend in the north east was told the same thing. | |||
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"I am unable to believe that an adviser to the government was unable to organise childcare while in London. Perhaps the term to organise a function in a brewery comes to mind" Dont you mean pushup in a brewery. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support.
No you’re not - said child would be taken into social services was what I was told as a single parent.
I'm also a single parent and I was most definitely not threatened with social services.
No Threat I enquired as to what happens to my children if I can’t care for them and family are in vulnerable groups - social care would be advised over vulnerable group relatives was the reply.
Sorry, I think I could have worded my response better, I wasn't trying to say social services were threatening to take your child.
Maybe that decision changes between local authorities?
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"I am unable to believe that an adviser to the government was unable to organise childcare while in London. Perhaps the term to organise a function in a brewery comes to mind Dont you mean pushup in a brewery. " piss up ffs lol | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support.
No you’re not - said child would be taken into social services was what I was told as a single parent.
I'm also a single parent and I was most definitely not threatened with social services.
No Threat I enquired as to what happens to my children if I can’t care for them and family are in vulnerable groups - social care would be advised over vulnerable group relatives was the reply.
Sorry, I think I could have worded my response better, I wasn't trying to say social services were threatening to take your child.
Maybe that decision changes between local authorities?
This was 111
Wow, that's odd.
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"I can’t post on the last thread, too big, but it’s fizzing my wizz. I think cut the guy some slack. I’m a key worker, my wife is very front line NHS. Our eldest can just stay home an look after herself to some extent, our youngest has had to go to school throughout lockdown. We have the luxury of living on the same street as my parents and within a mile of my wife’s parents - who have both still been in contact with us as they are primary carers for our kids. Without them, my wife would not have been able to go to work and co-ordinate the NHS services that the public need and expect. The rules allowed for people to be in contact with primary carers. The rules also stated 2m where possible, and lots of other stuff. Do you really think key workers (NHS or not) observed 2m at all times? This guy - a front line advisor to the government, moved his family close to his parents for support - at a time when schools and nurseries were closed, the infection and death rate was sky high and his wife was infected. I’m sure he didn’t decide to make the trip without having a chat with his folks either. There are threads on the forum about parents concerned about sending their kids back to school in June, this was weeks ago, what was he meant to do? I call that a husband and father doing what he needs to do to look after his pack myself, but I’m just a working class Yorkshire lad who would have done the same thing. I’m no fan of the government, but I really don’t see this in the same way as many of you do. He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straight in the eyes. agree, he went to his other house where there was a support network and stayed in isolation..... But let's get the pitch forks and burning torches anyway, just to prove nothing has changed really since 1408 and March on Downing Street, we can get supporters to join us from the crowded beaches and parks, we are burning a witch one way or another lol Don't disagree with them, they start getting nasty!
Aye behind their keyboards
Of course, if it was Jeremy Corbin or Kier Starmer acting in a similar fashion you'd be just as sterling in your defence..? You'll say yes of course, but, well, that's bullshit isn't it..
Didn’t Stephen Kinnock break the lockdown in order to drive 150 miles to deliver ‘essential supplies’ and a birthday card to his father? I don’t recall any fuss over that at the time other than the police saying it wasn’t essential travel.
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"This is the same guy who was happy to let old people die. As long as his family was ok he really couldn't give a stuff about anyone else. Guess what - I don't give a stuff about him or his family. " He should have just admitted he was doing his bit for herd immunity | |||
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"i think you are about to find out the "visit no.2" story is about to blow the "visit.no.1" excuse out of the water.... a sky news reporter is confirming on twitter that it WAS dominic cummings car at Barnard Castle......
And the evidence is where?
a retired chemistry teacher took the reg number and passed it on to sky news"Ahhhh the media. And people always believe everything the media say. Ahhh yes, we forgot. | |||
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"said to see that one Intensive care doctor Covid has said that if Cummings doesn't go, then he will resign. A kick in the teeth for the NHS workers. "And what would that achieve exactly...one less doctor. Brilliant. | |||
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" He’s just a husband & dad doing what he thought was best for his family - whilst looking Covid-19 straightDidn’t Stephen Kinnock break the lockdown in order to drive 150 miles to deliver ‘essential supplies’ and a birthday card to his father? I don’t recall any fuss over that at the time other than the police saying it wasn’t essential travel. Is Stephen Kinnock part of the government that drafted the rules that he broke? He’s a sitting MP. Surely if an advisor should reign over breaking a lockdown then a sitting MP should too?" Kinnock isn’t a Tory so the internet is ok with that. Champagne socialists get a fair hearing you see. | |||
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"I dont do politics in general but I am pretty disgusted by this whole thing. Thousands upon thousands of 'good' parents would have done the right thing by their family only it was expressly forbidden. Bad, bad, bad decision
It wasn't forbidden.
We were told to stay at home were we not there were exemptions.. of which this was one that was allowed.. and many others are also making use of. How many grandparents will be looking after children when there are no other childcare provisions..
The only childcare issue highlighted in briefings, was NOT to use grandparents over 70.
Also not to move between households?
Except when parents no longer live together.
Yes I was referring more to grandparents/extended family
I know seperated parents are an exemption
I just didn't think grandparents were,regardless of age
Basically, if you're concerned you can't look after your child you're allowed to go to family to seek help and support.
No you’re not - said child would be taken into social services was what I was told as a single parent.
I'm also a single parent and I was most definitely not threatened with social services.
No Threat I enquired as to what happens to my children if I can’t care for them and family are in vulnerable groups - social care would be advised over vulnerable group relatives was the reply."I was told by social care to have people in mind should I become to ill. Several of the people we have been helping to support during this time have had similar advice.. you are advised against it if someone is shielding though | |||
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" Dominic Cummings 'reported to police' The witness who says he spotted the prime minister's chief adviser enjoying a day trip to Barnard Castle during the lockdown has reported him to police. Robin Lees, 71, told the Daily Mirror he had made a complaint to Durham Constabulary about the sighting on 12 April. He says he took down the number plate of a grey Range Rover parked on the Sills between Ullathorne Rise and Gill Lane. Mr Lees add in his police report: "In the light of recent information I feel that as well as an important breach of the lockdown there may also have been concerns over Health Protection Regulations. I assume you are able to view CCTV to ascertain whether this vehicle travelled locally or from further away."" Well, I'm fairly sure the police will find some evidence of he was there. | |||
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