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By *j48 OP Man
over a year ago
Wigan |
Reading yet more failings from all involved in making decicions on this.
The bill for it, the misery it's going to cause, the lies upon lies that have been peddled in the name of save the NHS, the biggest disease is those that are full of their own importance.
Gueswork, computer models, lies, indecision, incorrect decisions, procrastination and half arsed attempts at reacting significantly quickly.
This lockdown needs to be scrapped....
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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago
portsmouth |
"Reading yet more failings from all involved in making decicions on this.
The bill for it, the misery it's going to cause, the lies upon lies that have been peddled in the name of save the NHS, the biggest disease is those that are full of their own importance.
Gueswork, computer models, lies, indecision, incorrect decisions, procrastination and half arsed attempts at reacting significantly quickly.
This lockdown needs to be scrapped....
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Judging by the amount of traffic on the road and the people on are lovely local beach it is already over. |
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It needs to be safely downgraded, we cannot just stop it incase infections rise too quickly for hospitals to cope again, we need to keep managing it correctly as per new Infection numbers and new hospital admissions as we are doing now |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"It needs to be safely downgraded, we cannot just stop it incase infections rise too quickly for hospitals to cope again, we need to keep managing it correctly as per new Infection numbers and new hospital admissions as we are doing now"
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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago
portsmouth |
"It needs to be safely downgraded, we cannot just stop it incase infections rise too quickly for hospitals to cope again, we need to keep managing it correctly as per new Infection numbers and new hospital admissions as we are doing now
This "
So many saints on fab but not a reflection of what is going on in the real world |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"Reading yet more failings from all involved in making decicions on this.
The bill for it, the misery it's going to cause, the lies upon lies that have been peddled in the name of save the NHS, the biggest disease is those that are full of their own importance.
Gueswork, computer models, lies, indecision, incorrect decisions, procrastination and half arsed attempts at reacting significantly quickly.
This lockdown needs to be scrapped....
Judging by the amount of traffic on the road and the people on are lovely local beach it is already over. "
It’s not already over since we were not actually ‘locked down’
We just had restrictions in place. And even though some of those restrictions have been eased, some are still active. |
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By *j48 OP Man
over a year ago
Wigan |
It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It needs to be safely downgraded, we cannot just stop it incase infections rise too quickly for hospitals to cope again, we need to keep managing it correctly as per new Infection numbers and new hospital admissions as we are doing now
This So many saints on fab but not a reflection of what is going on in the real world"
Please don't mention "Saints" to a pie eater from Wiggin. 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It needs to be safely downgraded, we cannot just stop it incase infections rise too quickly for hospitals to cope again, we need to keep managing it correctly as per new Infection numbers and new hospital admissions as we are doing now
This So many saints on fab but not a reflection of what is going on in the real world
Please don't mention "Saints" to a pie eater from Wiggin.
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PS. It was never properly managed by Boris & co. They're an absolute embarrassing shower of shit.  |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"It needs to be safely downgraded, we cannot just stop it incase infections rise too quickly for hospitals to cope again, we need to keep managing it correctly as per new Infection numbers and new hospital admissions as we are doing now
This So many saints on fab but not a reflection of what is going on in the real world"
In the real world - schools are still closed, so are many shops, restaurants and many other businesses and health centres like dentists.
People still queuing to get into supermarkets, pharmacies etc.
I do hope things get better with time, as though some people seem to think that because so many people are out and about, that’s an indication we are back to “normal” |
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over a year ago
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You should be a politician you seem to have all the answers. But incase you economics degree is out of date I will just remind you that our economy is mainly service and hospitality based and as bars, restaurants and hotels are still closed. Most people still don't have a work to go back to. |
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By *rx1Couple
over a year ago
North of Okehampton, South of Bideford |
"Reading yet more failings from all involved in making decicions on this.
The bill for it, the misery it's going to cause, the lies upon lies that have been peddled in the name of save the NHS, the biggest disease is those that are full of their own importance.
Gueswork, computer models, lies, indecision, incorrect decisions, procrastination and half arsed attempts at reacting significantly quickly.
This lockdown needs to be scrapped....
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You seem to have a firm grip about it all..
So we are all listening OP.........
The Answer is.....?
Personally, I think anyone that wants to do their own thing, should sign a declaration that in the event they pick up Covid, the likes of me, wont have to treat or care for you, putting me and my family at risk....Fairs, fair. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
London |
"You should be a politician you seem to have all the answers. But incase you economics degree is out of date I will just remind you that our economy is mainly service and hospitality based and as bars, restaurants and hotels are still closed. Most people still don't have a work to go back to. "
I am self employed and losing money every day I‘m sat at home.
So I’m one of those who is quite anxious to see the back of all these restrictions.
But I would prefer to see the restrictions eased off gradually, rather than scrapped overnight. |
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics... "
If the public sector workers are working then why would they not be on full pay?
Also a lot of teachers have never stopped working either distance learning or at school for the families of key workers.. |
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics... "
So I take it you don't work in healthcare and have not had to deal with the death and distruction that covid19 is causing. Class me as a snowflake then cos I see it first hand day in, day out. Let's hope none of your loved ones die. Tell me then how unsafe it is. |
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over a year ago
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics...
So I take it you don't work in healthcare and have not had to deal with the death and distruction that covid19 is causing. Class me as a snowflake then cos I see it first hand day in, day out. Let's hope none of your loved ones die. Tell me then how unsafe it is."
so how many young people and workers go through your wards, just asking so I know why folk can't return to work yet . |
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By *j48 OP Man
over a year ago
Wigan |
"You should be a politician you seem to have all the answers. But incase you economics degree is out of date I will just remind you that our economy is mainly service and hospitality based and as bars, restaurants and hotels are still closed. Most people still don't have a work to go back to. "
Exactly...
End this nonsense and get back to work, as I said, before there's nothing to go back to...
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics... "
Who are snowflakes? What is a snowflake? Such a daft expression.
Lives first. The economy isn’t going to die. They give billions pounds out to things they choose to, the money is always found somewhere.
Teachers aren’t refusing to go back to school, they have been working all the way through and so have other school staff and that includes holidays and bank holidays and support staff don’t get paid for the holidays either. Your comments are not fact based, they just opinions. |
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By *j48 OP Man
over a year ago
Wigan |
"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics...
So I take it you don't work in healthcare and have not had to deal with the death and distruction that covid19 is causing. Class me as a snowflake then cos I see it first hand day in, day out. Let's hope none of your loved ones die. Tell me then how unsafe it is."
No I don't, had my fill of NHS from Christmas day until my father died on the 25th Feb..
With the exception of 2 nurses and one senior nurse across five wards he got moved from and into.. It was was quite frankly, a very basic service...
Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery to be frank, nobody is accountable, you can't find the same doctor twice in two days..
Then just get fobbed off with some "opinion" with the "let's see what happens over the next week or so"
It's basically a burocrastic money pit.
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics...
So I take it you don't work in healthcare and have not had to deal with the death and distruction that covid19 is causing. Class me as a snowflake then cos I see it first hand day in, day out. Let's hope none of your loved ones die. Tell me then how unsafe it is.
No I don't, had my fill of NHS from Christmas day until my father died on the 25th Feb..
With the exception of 2 nurses and one senior nurse across five wards he got moved from and into.. It was was quite frankly, a very basic service...
Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery to be frank, nobody is accountable, you can't find the same doctor twice in two days..
Then just get fobbed off with some "opinion" with the "let's see what happens over the next week or so"
It's basically a burocrastic money pit.
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We lost our Dad early March, he was in Wigan 3 times, Southport and Blackpool twice each in the previous 7 months and yes I can relate to sometimes not seeing the same staff but that's because they work shifts and will have time off..
I would say on the whole the system seemed to be a lot about turnaround and not wanting beds blocked etc but that's not the staff on duty that's the management..
The nurses and doctors were spot on and no complaints although I am biased as several of my family are NHS..
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics... "
Pesky teachers not wanting to be exposed to a deadly disease whilst going to work. |
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics... "
You think public sector workers should work for free? |
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We saw what happened in Italy with the disease running rampant. It was a literal disaster.
Now theres idiots crying about the economy taking a hit instead of literal tens of thousands of dead. The govt can issue bonds any time it wants the exact same as the EU is doing IF the economy needs it. Theres no way to bring back the dead. |
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics...
So I take it you don't work in healthcare and have not had to deal with the death and distruction that covid19 is causing. Class me as a snowflake then cos I see it first hand day in, day out. Let's hope none of your loved ones die. Tell me then how unsafe it is.
No I don't, had my fill of NHS from Christmas day until my father died on the 25th Feb..
With the exception of 2 nurses and one senior nurse across five wards he got moved from and into.. It was was quite frankly, a very basic service...
Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery to be frank, nobody is accountable, you can't find the same doctor twice in two days..
Then just get fobbed off with some "opinion" with the "let's see what happens over the next week or so"
It's basically a burocrastic money pit.
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Go private then. |
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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
"Reading yet more failings from all involved in making decicions on this.
The bill for it, the misery it's going to cause, the lies upon lies that have been peddled in the name of save the NHS, the biggest disease is those that are full of their own importance.
Gueswork, computer models, lies, indecision, incorrect decisions, procrastination and half arsed attempts at reacting significantly quickly.
This lockdown needs to be scrapped....
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The bill for it is saving jobs, companies and lives.
I'd really love to see anyone on the fab forums have done better. |
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics... "
When you have a clue what teachers actually do and have continued to do then I will listen to why you are saying: just the fact you believe teachers are on holiday proves how little you actually know about the situation. |
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over a year ago
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics...
If the public sector workers are working then why would they not be on full pay?
Also a lot of teachers have never stopped working either distance learning or at school for the families of key workers.. "
Exactly this... My kids school has not stopped working, doing lessons on zoom, while still being open for vulnerable and key worker kids. They even stayed open through Easter for those kids, and I'm sure none of them got extra ching ching for working on bank holidays. They have every right to also want to keep themselves and their families safe... I will never understand how people can be so negative towards teachers, the very people who give us an education, so we have the literacy to spew our garbage on the Internet.... Personally I think all keyworkers, including teachers don't deserve to be spoken about like this.... These are difficult times for all of us, I'd hate to be a key worker right now, choosing between your duty to your job and your families safety   |
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics...
Who are snowflakes? What is a snowflake? Such a daft expression.
Lives first. The economy isn’t going to die. They give billions pounds out to things they choose to, the money is always found somewhere.
Teachers aren’t refusing to go back to school, they have been working all the way through and so have other school staff and that includes holidays and bank holidays and support staff don’t get paid for the holidays either. Your comments are not fact based, they just opinions. "
Teachers don’t get paid for holidays either ... and To your comments I totally agree |
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"Reading yet more failings from all involved in making decicions on this.
The bill for it, the misery it's going to cause, the lies upon lies that have been peddled in the name of save the NHS, the biggest disease is those that are full of their own importance.
Gueswork, computer models, lies, indecision, incorrect decisions, procrastination and half arsed attempts at reacting significantly quickly.
This lockdown needs to be scrapped....
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We have never had lockdown! People have done exactly as they have wanted with no care for others! |
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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago
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"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics...
Who are snowflakes? What is a snowflake? Such a daft expression.
Lives first. The economy isn’t going to die. They give billions pounds out to things they choose to, the money is always found somewhere.
Teachers aren’t refusing to go back to school, they have been working all the way through and so have other school staff and that includes holidays and bank holidays and support staff don’t get paid for the holidays either. Your comments are not fact based, they just opinions.
Teachers don’t get paid for holidays either ... and To your comments I totally agree "
It just feels like a teacher/school bashing story unfortunately. The facts get missed or are overlooked.
Maybe if schools had shouted louder at the beginning and demanded the recognition for their work then people would understand a little about what has actually been happening. Who knows? I just think schools are becoming an easy target. |
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By *j48 OP Man
over a year ago
Wigan |
"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics...
When you have a clue what teachers actually do and have continued to do then I will listen to why you are saying: just the fact you believe teachers are on holiday proves how little you actually know about the situation. "
I said they are (you) your labour council are deeming it unsafe.. Bollocks, move some desks about and get back to work.. What kid learns without supervision, testing and encouragement from Teachers. Let's face it must parents couldn't give a stuff if there kids learnt anything more than talking slang |
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By *j48 OP Man
over a year ago
Wigan |
"It was never unsafe if properly and efficiently managed
That's the point, snowflakes panicked and now look at what's coming..
Public sector workers on full pay, most private sector workers on furlough pay...
Teachers refusing to go back to work.. Not surprising, ching ching,10 months holiday thank you very much..
People seem to think on the whole it's a holiday, it's far from that..
Get back to work or very soon there won't be anything to go back to...
Basic economics...
If the public sector workers are working then why would they not be on full pay?
Also a lot of teachers have never stopped working either distance learning or at school for the families of key workers..
Exactly this... My kids school has not stopped working, doing lessons on zoom, while still being open for vulnerable and key worker kids. They even stayed open through Easter for those kids, and I'm sure none of them got extra ching ching for working on bank holidays. They have every right to also want to keep themselves and their families safe... I will never understand how people can be so negative towards teachers, the very people who give us an education, so we have the literacy to spew our garbage on the Internet.... Personally I think all keyworkers, including teachers don't deserve to be spoken about like this.... These are difficult times for all of us, I'd hate to be a key worker right now, choosing between your duty to your job and your families safety "
Cool, what kid has enough attention to be taught through Zoom
There aren't enough hours in a day for one teacher to teach each pupil one hour a day each on zoom..
Maybe it's a collective class.. I really don't care as come "summer holidays" every single teacher and lecturer in the UK will take it...
I'll bet a grand on it |
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